Look up BJJ dummy, I'm a solo practitioner

@GlassShardBallPit will look up for a dummy for sure, thanks man

​@@GlassShardBallPitGood idea

No, they already existed thousands of years ago judo was created in the 20th century in India and China, there is an art of people who fought with submissions, Japan did not invent anything, it only took techniques from Chinese and Mongolian martial arts, sumo has its origins in Mongolian wrestling and judo in Chinese shuai jiao and not in ju jutsu, that is an invention of the Japanese empire, ju jutsu is also inspired by styles from southern China. Judo is a direct and blatant copy of shuai jiao.

It was a feint to distract the enemy...

@@Trash0815 That's a terrible feint. He's dividing his own attention away from fencing to tell a lie that the other person would immediately know was a lie since he's not using anything remotely close to Liechtenauer. If this weren't a movie the other guy would probably ignore it and hit him while he was talking. I think calling it a feint is reaching for an excuse for what is clearly just the writers throwing random fencing terms in for flavor.

Hutton did teach (and demonstrate, and write books on) Renaissance-style fencing during the 1890s.

@BartitsuSociety Oh, if only they had duelling sabers in the 14th century. Oh if only Hutton had lived in the 16th cenutry. Oh if only duelling sabers were used with the thumb grip. This movie got so many things wrong its hilarious.

@@iantheduellist I'm allowing that the sequence is played for laughs and pointing out that Hutton did, in fact, teach a Renaissance fencing style in 1892; there's no inference that the Renaissance ended in the 20th century.

@BartitsuSociety There sort of is when they say that he DEVELOPED a renissance fighting style.

@@iantheduellist He did - it's detailed in "Old Swordplay" and also thoroughly described in his essays, etc. He developed representational versions of Renaissance rapier (and various sidearms) and sword-and-buckler play for safe bouting purposes and also for demonstrations, where his aim was to quickly communicate the essence of those styles to audiences of educated laypeople rather than to demonstrate any one historical style verbatim. I doubt that the screenwriter here was aware of that niche piece of HEMA lore, so he was basically right by accident.

YES!!! THANK YOU!!! It's more about principles than the weapon. The one exception is when a system heavily uses a complex hilt (your stick example being a shift in guard and distance if based on backsword).

I sincerely doubt the people who made this put that much thought into it.

Nah. It’s just nonsense name drops. I actually train both those styles and they aren’t doing either. The guy supposedly doing liechtenauer should be attacking the body, not chasing the blade. The style is known for using cuts that force the opponent to defend and then working from blade contact. Or at the very least cutting to the openings on the body while they are occupied somewhere else. And stepping with each cut. Standing in place chasing his sword around like a game of whack a mole is the complete opposite. The guy supposedly doing Hutton should be lunging forward and retreating back out of distance. Not standing still teasing him, which would end tragically if the guy decided to reach out and strike him instead of chasing his sword. Neither fighter is using the style they claim to. It’s just typical theatre swordplay.

Good point, unfortunately, they're using neither the correct guards or techniques.

Never seen an epee before, have you?

@@anton.chigrinetc.96 Lichtenauer taught the longsword.

@@jedidls No shit Sherlock. Wasn't talking about him though.

No kidding. The rapier hadn't even been invented yet when Liechtenauer lived as far as I'm aware

@@jtmurr It's nearly a 500 year difference, correct. Hans Talhoffer talks about Liechtenauer like he's old news in 1448.

Incorrect

​@@swordpeople stfu dimwit

We know, thats why its hilarious

Johannes Liechtenauer was 4 hundreds years earlier, and never wrote down any of his teachings. He's only referenced, by masters like Hans Talhoffer in his writings or by similar masters. This scene is a complete fabrication just for fun.

That’s giving them way too much credit. It’s just nonsense name drops. Lichtenauer’s blade contact techniques are preceded by an actual cut or thrust, forcing you to defend. If you were to simply deny blade contact that would just mean that you get hit.

@@mysticmarbles Not really. Blade denial can be a great part of a strong game. No binds doesn't always lead to getting hit.

@@realhumanbean57 Yes really. Blade denial CAN be useful...but in the context here the guy is just attacking the sword like a beginner. Blade denial, such as durchwechseln in liechtenauer, is used in specific circumstances such as when you are already in blade contact and you want to flip around to the other side. Or when they use a thrust that seeks to set your blade aside (absetzen) you flip around to the other side and do the same thing to them instead. In both those cases their blade is pushing off to the side, not coming toward you in a cut. This is key. If a competent liechtenauer user wants to bind it will usually be preceded with a cut that demands defense, and once the opponent parries then they have the contact they need and can manipulate the blade. If you deny that cut by moving your blade you would just get hit. The only way you wouldn’t is if they are very inexperienced and are out of striking distance aiming at your sword, such as in typical movie fighting.

I'm not familiar with medieval wrestling but a lot of what they did was illegal or is not taught in modern wrestling.

The Librarian: The Curse of the Judas Chalice

Is this the original audio??

@@dt534 yes

I've met John on 3 occasions...but that in no way makes me him. 😂

My father's mother's family came from Norway & aparently only married other Scandinavians because his DNA test showed him to be a bit over 1/2 Norwegian. I can say my dad doesn't like basketball, I'm not very fond either 😂

don't let the dude get his hip connected to yours while at a lower angle.

@@internetenjoyer1044 Lower angle?

@@bobu5213 I should really have said hieght there. if their hip is below you, then they have more leverage; thats why shorter people tend to use hip throws more. Tbh, this is pretty much identical to the hip throws in Judo, so I'd youtube stuff about countering o goshi and other techniques.

@@internetenjoyer1044 Ah thanks

You might, might be able to duck down and scoop their legs in some manner