It’s nice to see a MRL in a motor room at least there’s a room for the engineers to hide 😂
@elevatorsinnz2 күн бұрын
That looks disgusting
@LiftsInQLD2 күн бұрын
Just wondering as I don't completely understand - for some replacements, why is it that the logic cabinet goes into the old machine room instead of the top floor? Is it solely for the sake of not doing unnecessary mods, existing wiring already going up there or what?
@liftguy302 күн бұрын
@@LiftsInQLD power supply is already there, and fault finding in front of the client at the top floor is not ideal, also mounting the drives outside the shaft makes things much easier to change, however you can’t see things move (unless you cut a hole) but it is almost the same at the cabinet at the top floor
@LiftsInQLD2 күн бұрын
@ ahh gotcha, thanks so much for the explanation! I find it happening quite frequently and it’s good to know exactly why it’s done like that
@PhilipCollins-b3h3 күн бұрын
Nice and clean top of Carr blood cold here
@elevatorsinnz3 күн бұрын
Filmed these in the holidays! Definitely understand why I couldn’t access the tio
@elevatorsoflakecountyTV6 күн бұрын
Interesting to see an Otis AC unit with a selector. In the states selectors were usually used on Otis’s DC models; like the 21U, UCL, UAL, etc
@TheTheo586 күн бұрын
Otis geared DC traction machine, MG set in good working condition. Not sure what the rack behind the generator is, maybe a resistor array.
@liftguy305 күн бұрын
@@TheTheo58 that’s the floor selector and call relay panel
@TheTheo584 күн бұрын
@@liftguy30 Ah, most of the videos I have seen with Otis elevators the floor selector is near the controller/floor relays. I've seen more of the pie plate selectors, however I did see a few of those as seen in this footage.
@elevatorsinnz6 күн бұрын
I wonder if this is publicly accessible
@clivecoles12886 күн бұрын
I reckon the original door gearwas a PY1870 chain drive.But you did mention giant door spring that would make it PY1600
@liftguy306 күн бұрын
@@clivecoles1288 Never knew what they were called, it had a 3 phase door motor with a coupling on it going into a gearbox to pull the door open, it had mechanical cams driven off the gearbox that applied a brake to the motor shaft, they had the same operator on some A and P Steven’s lifts
@PhilipCollins-b3h6 күн бұрын
I remember the heat and the noise and you had a fault and you’re up there for days it was hard
@the_alex_ellis_channel69236 күн бұрын
Odd that the indicator numbers go right-to-left, instead of the usual left-to-right.
@the_alex_ellis_channel69236 күн бұрын
Blimey! Never knew we have Marryat & Scott lifts here! That must be very rare!
@liftguy306 күн бұрын
@@the_alex_ellis_channel6923 At least 6 that I know of, some still original
@the_alex_ellis_channel69236 күн бұрын
@@liftguy30 I noticed a comment from one of your other videos, that H. Moult were the distributors (allegedly). I do know of an H. Moult lift in Lower Hutt, which I now wonder if it has any Marryat & Scott parts on it. That one is maintained by KONE, rather than Schindler, so you may not have come accross it.
@liftguy306 күн бұрын
@the_alex_ellis_channel6923 I know Kone look after a few of them, there are lots of old lifts out the Hutt. I need to get to more of them as they are slowly getting ripped out
@romanstreule58977 күн бұрын
Sehr schöne Anlagen.
@musiclabmn7 күн бұрын
Wow that wooden car is beautiful
@PhilipCollins-b3h7 күн бұрын
I don’t make ropes like they used to
@PhilipCollins-b3h7 күн бұрын
Never seen indicators like that
@t3224.elevators_nz8 күн бұрын
Aritco lifts are great. Quite possibly the best platform elevator company I’ve seen as a 🛗 enthusiast, with CIBES coming in close second - although the two have very similar-looking builds, which makes me wonder if they’re actually much different beyond the obvious fixture swap-out…
@MrEngineer2005110 күн бұрын
Is this the machine room for the Otis black button in the video before this one?
@liftguy3010 күн бұрын
@@MrEngineer20051 yes
@MrEngineer2005110 күн бұрын
Otis black button! I have been on a few of those here in the US!
@liftguy309 күн бұрын
They seem to last forever
@MrEngineer2005110 күн бұрын
That has got to be the QUIETEST screw-driven wheelchair lift that I have ever heard!
@liftguy307 күн бұрын
I had just oiled the screw :) the brake releasing is the noisiest part
@musiclabmn10 күн бұрын
So, same gearbox but they swapped out the old DC motors for those massive noisy AC ones?
@liftguy3010 күн бұрын
@@musiclabmn yes, it had the Otis square motors, there were lots of similar mods at the time as it saved a lot of money and the gearbox would effectively last forever if looked after, it is now much cheaper to replace all of it due to the low cost of modern equipment
@LiftyGamez10 күн бұрын
What fixtures does this one use? Surprised there's one of these all the way in NZ
@liftguy306 күн бұрын
There is video inside the other one, the two are the same
@LiftyGamez3 күн бұрын
@liftguy30 do you have the link? I can't seem to find it
@TheTheo5811 күн бұрын
The VVF are 880A full load current, 293A each phase? What is the input voltage for the VF and controller? It's it running at 440-480 VAC unless these are massive HP motors seems like a lot of amperage.
@liftguy3010 күн бұрын
@@TheTheo58 88Amp
@PhilipCollins-b3h11 күн бұрын
Very odd 😂😂
@SurecDs-dw7uo12 күн бұрын
Is it safe?
@liftguy3012 күн бұрын
Yes, probably more than a modern unit
@PhilipCollins-b3h13 күн бұрын
Nice and it’s the right colour 😂🇬🇧
@TheTheo5813 күн бұрын
Very interesting controller still in good condition it was built to last. I have seen a few installations like this one with the machine on the floor and guide sheaves on ceiling down to the hoist way.
@mrmattandmrchay21 күн бұрын
As usual, very interesting and unique content that you're uploading. I always watch.
@elevatorsinnz22 күн бұрын
I think I almost in that one once but I didn’t
@elevatorsinnz28 күн бұрын
Think I know which one this is. Saw it through the window. On a little side street
@JulesMauuary-MaetzАй бұрын
What's the brand of the pump? GMV, Hydroware, Blain/Leistritz or Bucher Hydraulics?
@liftguy30Ай бұрын
It’s called a Hydroelite as it has a closed loop control system with a servo valve but the pump is GMV
@JulesMauuary-MaetzАй бұрын
@liftguy30 Hydroware/GMV mix then.
@JulesMauuary-MaetzАй бұрын
@@liftguy30 Is it the same pump as this video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqm1dYSri89grqssi=y9HzKmf-akTd4Qzy
@liftguy30Ай бұрын
Pretty much, that one has a seperate control system
@JulesMauuary-Maetz28 күн бұрын
@@liftguy30is it the same as this one ? kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6bXf6yVorqChJosi=q5EynKD0otFou50N
@liftrailphotographyinnz3992Ай бұрын
Can you do a video of the machine room for the Yellow Lifts?
@liftguy30Ай бұрын
@@liftrailphotographyinnz3992 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnrSpYdtoZWmfbssi=XxrsKRuSzMudrPF8 This is before the Mod
@PhilipCollins-b3hАй бұрын
Happy new year mate 🇬🇧
@liftguy30Ай бұрын
@PhilipCollins-b3h right back at ya!
@GettingProjectsDoneАй бұрын
I just finished installing a custom residential elevator for a client. They would like to make a working floor indicator dial if possible. Your video is very similar in concept. I would like to know what components you used to make yours work.
@liftguy30Ай бұрын
www.cirrusinternational.com/hall-lanterns-indicators. These are probably what we used
@TheTheo58Ай бұрын
The machine and controller are in very good condition and working great being nearly 70 yrs old. 400 VAC 3P controller is drawing only 20A. I have seen 2:1 roping with sheaves (top of cab each end) It's interesting the machine/driven sheave are offset from the dead hitched ropes anchored into the ceiling. One's I am familiar with w/ the single sheave top of cab and counterweight and defector sheave are in line. With a slight angle of the machine. How are the ropes which pass over the driven sheaves anchored to the cab? The most recent configuration I saw was a modification of an MRL moving the comp sheaves to the top of the cab dead hitching the rope ends from the machine and counterweight.
@liftguy30Ай бұрын
@@TheTheo58 they only anchor to the car if the roping is 3/1 or a an odd number, for even numbers it is always anchored to the slab etc
@liftguy30Ай бұрын
1 is up 2 is down…… that may not be the original controller as the building appears to be much older
@the_alex_ellis_channel6923Ай бұрын
Interesting, based the lables above the inside buttons and on the motor, his appears to at least partly be Pickerings Lift - a company established in the UK all the way back in 1854. The company was known for being a reputable lift manufacturer for many years. Whilst they are still going, they're now really only known for being a distributor of other others, rather than actually manufacturing their own, and they only serve the UK market.
@clivecoles1288Ай бұрын
That is a beauty
@idl3k_elevАй бұрын
So ECC was the distributor of FIAM in New Zealand? I always thought it was GEC who have done it like in Singapore, Malaysia and Hong Kong.
@liftguy30Ай бұрын
@@idl3k_elev ECC (Electric Construction Company) is a small New Zealand Company, they installed Express, Fiam and several other brands (including their own designs up until 1990 when Schindler purchased them for their Elevator Business, ECC still exists and sells lighting equipment
@idl3k_elevАй бұрын
@liftguy30 I looked up Schindler's historical publication that I found on the internet and you're right, they took over ECC in 1989 along with T.L. Jones Ltd. That's probably how they first established their presence in the NZ market.
@westburnworld3 күн бұрын
@@idl3k_elev I have noticed many Semags in Nelson with TL Jones labels, I do theorize that TL Jones supplied Semags in the South Island rather than EPL.
@chasewilkinson1977Ай бұрын
Finally some quality vintage elevator content
@KIRBZVIDSАй бұрын
good videos just subscribed 👌
@pete3897Ай бұрын
Speaking of slip-rings, I saw marketing for a brushless DC Dyson the other day that said "No carbon brushes means no carbon emissions!" lol :)
@LynxCarpathicaАй бұрын
Well…ekchuelly you do get carbon particles from brushes 🤓 But yeah that’s blatant misinformation and marketing lie. I would report it to the FTC.
@Lift.TrackerАй бұрын
Why is it that this one has 5 inductor switches compared to the usual 3 if it only runs at two-speed?
@liftguy30Ай бұрын
@Lift.Tracker ZS does the counting (two pulses per floor) 2US and 2DS does the change over point from high speed to slow speed, and 1US and IDS do the stopping depending on direction
@Lift.TrackerАй бұрын
@ I see. So is it because it’s such an old model that they hadn’t integrated both up and down slowing and stopping into 1 inductor, making it have just 3 in total?
@liftguy30Ай бұрын
@Lift.Tracker correct, to do so required a lot more relay logic and if you had short floors you may need the slowing steps too close together or even overlapping which wouldn’t be possible with only one inductor per direction. Most also had a “2S” inductor for door zone, this one didn’t as the original doors had a retiring cam to unlock them, so the door open circuit was integrated with the lock relays so unless relays “41” and “42” (locks) dropped the doors would not open, so when the doors were modernised I had to install an optical switch to run a door zone otherwise the lift would open the doors wherever it stopped (and potentially rip the landing pickups off if in the wrong place).
@elevatorsinnzАй бұрын
I’ve filmed that one! I know because of the motor. That one is nice
@idl3k_elevАй бұрын
Spec 60VF was a product of Nippon OTIS in Japan and was widely shipped to many Asian countries between the late 1980s and mid 1990s. Didn't know that the model had made it all the way to New Zealand.
@liftguy30Ай бұрын
Quite a few were installed here, very reliable (not so much now), parts are getting difficult to find
@philipcollins3849Ай бұрын
I remember back in the day no top of car inspection just a toggle stop switch and no shaft lights
@liftguy30Ай бұрын
@@philipcollins3849 still plenty out there just like that, some still don’t have pit stop switches
@philipcollins3849Ай бұрын
Maybe insurance companies are more stringent in the uk or less in NZ
@liftguy30Ай бұрын
@@philipcollins3849 insurance in this country are not interested in elevators, completely opposite of the UK etc
@philipcollins3849Ай бұрын
Well made
@musiclabmnАй бұрын
So those 'steps' at the beginning when starting, is to make acceleration smoother? Seems pretty intuitive doing this with only a 2 speed AC motor.
@liftguy30Ай бұрын
@@musiclabmn It makes it much smoother and draws a lot less current from the mains, same when the the slowing kicks in, most two speed machines are just done with resistors in the feed, effectively making them four speed, these however have 2 steps in the slow speed motor and up to six on the high.
@LiftsInQLDАй бұрын
Your videos are awesome! 😃 You'd be surprised how much I'm learning about those units you've posted on your channel. I've seen a little bit of Schindler & Otis machines around and about thanks to technicians, but your videos really do go into detail as to the inner workings of these. As I'm over the ocean in Australia, I don't have that much knowledge regarding Express lifts, for example, so it's always good to see how things vary.