They don't play online anymore or what?

@@mikeschafer4440 not like this they don't. we'll probably never see crazy high stakes online action like this again. the scene is just so much different now

railing twoplustwo monthly high stakes threads.. hype around Isildur1 and what he did was crazy at the time, I enjoyed it a lot

what full house?

Yawg moth fusion

Actually, Isildur busted durrrr so they named kim Ikilldurrrr.

Ok, RND #3 was a bit more fair. But, there are better videos of Cobham from those concerts in 72. RND #4 was also great!!! And Tony can´t play Jazz nearly as well as Billy. Billy was #1 for CTI Records before he got busy with his solo projects. After that, Steve Gadd took over at CTI Records.

BorisBerezovskyisalive in PLO,you can only use 2 best cards of yours;so its a set vs straight

rockeritza9 how do you figure

Isildur tilted him badly.

(the guy went broke, had to sell his house, his wife and his 2 kids the same night)

You play 2 cards from your hand in PLO

He should expect to have at most 20 outs (vs. a top pair, no spade, which wasn't impossible on these tables), and at the very least 8 (vs. 5x8s or 5x2s). Not sure if he ever expects to be ahead here, but if he never expects to be ahead, he would need 17-18 outs to make it a profitable call, I think? If he expects to be ahead vs. other draws and mad bluffs a small portion of the time, that would change that quite a bit. He could of course be high, but he's probably just slightly insane.

many many many many many many many levels deeper than you think about the game, durrrrrr got coolered in that hand. I'll let you in on a secret, no had has less then 5.75% equity vs aces pre flop and no hand you would ever play back with that is not a bluff holds 10% or more. The game is realizing and denying equity. your holdings are irrelevant beyond the equity in the present hand

Yes it was poker, I'm always amazed how people with no results in the game criticize the play of those who have them and dismiss it as bad play instead of trying to understand what things they did well to get to the level they did regardless of if the stayed or faded away. It does however put a huge smile on my face to know that poker is alive and well :)

Mob connected

To you

I think you should get into poker and make more money than them. Please remember I gave you the idea and make a small donation.

PLO is a post flop game c'mon

we can't all look at our hand rankings chart and wait to flop the nuts and fade redraws before we get it in :)

+ Sideshow Bob osea que paran jugando entre ellos y perdiendo su tiempo

For them, yes ;)

+shaun forrest lol this guy is up 5 million this year and is extremily talented with no fear...he is by far this years biggest winner and seems like he have learnd his bankroll managment.beacause he doesnt play for 12 14 hours in straight anymore that usually made him loose money when fresh guys satt and wait for him.also now if he loose 4-5 buy inns he quit.before he would just keept rebuy until he was brooke.

TheDigitalPillars lol.u will get destroyed if u play him!!!!

Agreee. He is a fish

to this day he is relevant, he has learned from his spewy ways and is doing far better then average all these years later. How about you? It's been 3 years since you posted this, surely you're crushing super high rollers by now? Is that you Fedor?

I still cry a little when I remember black Friday, there was sooo much dead money out there to be won. #letamericamakepokergreatagain

@@aarbar6615 what was black Friday

@@aarbar6615 I still can't wrap my head around it. Don't understand why is poker so regulated in US. It would be so much fun if we could all play together again..

Funny thing. I have no albums with Royster on them, but I've got plenty of "must have" albums with Cobham on them. Cobham's been on countless legendary jazz/fusion albums and Royster hasn't been on a single one...

Yes....thats something to think about:) respect to mr Cobham...he has been a mentor to a lot of drummers world wide.... To say one musician is better etc is actually meaningless.... But we are living now, and Tony bring in something new and fresh,...hip hopish funkyrocknrollafusion punk :)

Zzdross Yeah, which is why Tony doesn't get hired by the major jazz recording artists. Tony had chops, but to be honest, that doesn't make him an equal to Cobham in terms of musicianship. Cobham has written a vast amount of compositions, has been on countless jazz/fusion recordings and is seen as the biggest name in fusion drumming, which is essentially what he really pioneered to a higher level than anyone else. Every drummer essentially copies a lot of Cobham fills, ideas, etc. Look the use of Octobans, Gong drums, inverted China type as a main ride cymbal, ambidextrous drumming. He's had a long standing career as a solo artist, composer, band member, and season player. Tony Royster has had a long standing career more as a clinician showing chops to kids in music stores, but has only been a touring drummer for the Hip Hop world, and has ZERO credibility in the jazz/fusion world. I see Royster more as a novelty act and Cobham a true master musician that has a lot more meaning behind his playing. Who is McCoy Tyner, John McLaughin, Herbie Hancock going to call? Cobham or Royster? Nuff said. Royster has lots of chops, but chops doesn't necessarily mean better musicianship because the chops have to translate with the music so it's more musical. There are tons of chop drummers ever since Cobham emerged with Mahavishnu. his playing has influenced just about every "chops' drummer, but what I noticed is that these chops drummers forgot to add musicality to their list of what to practice. The same thing happened with Guitar players since McLaughlin came to the forefront. Every guitar player practiced speed to prove something, but they forgot to be Musial, so we have a laundry list of guitar players playing nothing but fast scales, heavy use of the whammy bar and other bullshit techniques like tapping and sweeps, but they fail in the art of studying music and blending musical styles to create something new and MUSICAL. That's the same thing with bass players, keyboard. players, etc. That's why most of the today's musicians did, they FUCKED Up and didn't concentrate on mastering the basics. You know like mastering blues, jazz, classical, classical Indian, latin, etc. and really PLAYING it on a level with maturity, originality, and authenticity. it's sad too. That's why there are very few musicians that have enormous chops that I pay much attention to. They forgot the fundamentals. To play in a musical situation as a GROUP of musicians playing together and playing musically. They opt for just showing off their chops in a very immature manner to impress the kids. IMO, there are only a handful fo truly great drummers that have chops, and Royster isn't one of them. to me, he's more of a novelty due to his young age. he hasn't matured in a musical fashion since he got into the Hip Hop realm, that's more of a money gig. Hip Hop really isn't much of a musical art form since there's not much of a melody going on. To me Hip Hop is funk without any sense of blues.

Tony is a great drummer and play at a very high level....and he is also actually very sucsesssfull...playing with JC....Joss Stone...and travveling over the whole world having clinics.....well....I think that is something... But..Im fully agrea with you in many ways....

Zzdross Good for him. I don't particularly care for his style of playing. Lots of chops, no musicality that's interesting to me. I always find myself going back to the older '70's fusion, the older funk/R&B/blues drummers and then to guys like Trilok Gurtu. To me, these younger kids simply don't know how to swing a groove and play the songs and play WITH the other musicians because they are too busy trying to show off and play over everyone else. I know it's a lot of fun to play all kinds of chops, but it's got to be listenable. Some of it isn't listenable, at least to me. JC? Who's JC?

Do they not play much online poker anymore or there isn't a good site like full tilt?

@@mikeschafer4440 Sure there's higher stakes online, but not like this anymore. I'm in America so def not here... All the pros play high stakes live now, in private games in Macau. You just here stories now about hands, but some are aired for fans... Check out the Triton series on KZbin. You can watch some 75/150 and 200/400 on Americas cardroom if interested. Lots of bots and bum hunters on there. Triton series is crazy!! Check it out, and good luck on the felt!

@@jeff-pt8ep yeah I watch some triton series. Its hard to find these guys playing these days which is a bummer. Is Isuldur still out there playing?

because they know he's capable of bluffing with missed draws and shoving with weak / mediums strength draws. One of the benefits of being a LAG player is getting called more often when you do make a hand.

james b what the difference of being called as a fish or LAG? no difference for me at all

same jonathan, same

Yeah it's so refreshing.