The fact that Jayce was actually a victim back when he got his stuff stolen and chsrged double price

Jayce’s voice sucks Vi is pretty bad too.

Jayce: Yeah I'm not shaking your hand like that. You'd crush me. Vi: Yeah one way or the other I'm crushing you.

Wait can someone please tell me which episode this is??

I honestly can't be upset with Jayce for killing that child because in my opinion it was the kid's for just standing there and setting off the alarms to begin with...

I think it's interesting that Jayce listened to Vi and heard her about the kids and Topside's culpability, but took a very different message than the one she wanted him to take.

god she’s so hot and for what-

Jayce really up and went :q!

I like that, despite everything progressing in the series, Jayce's morals and attitude always remained unchanged. He doesn't get blindly manipulated, but he's willing to listen always to what other people have to say to him.

oil and water grows deeper ❤X💙

I find it vastly ironic and amusing the gymnastics people go through to justify Vi stealing the gauntlets. and then blaming what happened with Jinx on anyone other than Jinx and Silco.

Vi is pretty quick to call out Jayce or Piltover for things being so bad, but honestly, it never felt like she's actually tried to improve things in Zaun. Even here talking about that kid felt more like her trying to manipulate Jayce into justifying it. Her whole focus after getting out of prison was just to make silco pay, she isn't that concerned for Zaun or it's people. Not saying she is heartless, even she seemed bothered by that kids death, but she isn't doing much to improve where she lives. Others like Vander (or even silco in his twisted way) tried to improve things or at least make the best of it

Teaming up ever

Jayce is a lousy person but a brilliantly written character. He wants to do the right thing but he's so malleable and ignorant of anything that isn't science that it's easy for any person who talks to him to convince him that whatever they want to use him for is the right thing. He's a cushion who takes the shape of the last person to sit on him.

i love the subtle details, like when Jayce was using the gloves it felt awkward, a bit like he was struggling. but when vi took it she is a natural with it. its a little thing but that communicated a lot.

I just still fucking hate how Jayce is literally roasted 100% of his time with Vi and the instant the series makes him actually look cool fighting with the hammer he just kills a kid, I know he's not a child/girl/orphan but what did the showrunners have against him

Can someone let me know, in the first scene of Arcane we saw that Jayce came from another universe with the help of some wizard? Where is the place Jayce came from? And who was that wizard?

Use your Spider sense Gwen

I love how he puts down the hammer when he starts to think they may be on the same boat with Vi and pick up the (other) hammer when he finds out they actually are not. This show is just too good.

People that don't play League don't know this, but Jayce's Mercurial hammer at this stage in the canon is the most powerful weapon in the world and will continue to be the most powerful weapon up until Ezreal's (BS) gauntlet comes into play. Vi would have no chance against Jayce here. At all. Vi is wrong, stupid & outmatched. She's lucky Jayce didn't smash her face in.

Considering Jayce and Viktor invented Hextech, they really should've put some sort of de-activation/self destruct tool in them so that THEY can shut them down if someone gets their hands on their work.

This show was a good soundtrack away from being great.

Vi speaks so much truth here, it's scary how real she sounds. Not to mention, her targeting Silco for 'revenge' - you all do realize, granting independence to Zaun with Silco, who has mostly destroyed the undercity with Shimmer, would be more devastating? Piltover would just leave them to rot at Silco's hands while denying assistance because Zaun is "independent" now. Getting rid off Silco and then having Piltover assist in Zaun's redevelopment and independence is the way to go. If Vi really was after revenge, she could have killed Caitylyn or Jayce, the topsiders who turned her life hell. But she's a broken woman, fresh out of prison with no awareness of what is going on except for one desperate goal: return home, find her sister, take them to safety and then plan next.

Vi would have lost in a 1v1, jayce was acting on emotion. Vi was acting on instinct.

I don't hate Jayce, but I don't particularly like him either. But I feel sorry for him - he's always caught up in the crossfire without any knowledge or diligence as to what he should do. He is not and never has been equipped for these kind of political issues, but it's hard not to feel infuriated with his naivety

Am I the only one who thinks this could b a ship?

Interestingly enough Vander would be more inclined to agree with Jayce than Vi

Just noticed this on 10th watch: As she starts to win him over, he sets down the hammer and starts slowly moving toward her.

Daily

I quit

I quit 😊

Between the writers and the animators, seriously major leagued ths out of the park.

Im no VI!gilantee, No u are VI!ctom

What I see here is that neither of them is wrong. They do want to end the conflict although due to being from different sides their vision of how to achieve their goal is extreme, so to speak, Vi wants to do it using her fists if she needs to while Jayce chooses to avoid violence and try on the diplomatic way

When Vi says "He knew what he was signing up for" about a kid that young, that immediately lets you know that she's pissed off and being unfair to Jayce. That is not a true or reasonable statement--most of what follows is more truthful, but naturally her priority isn't being nice or kind. She's disappointed, furious, and so is he--and it's at each other.

I love how when Jayce tells Vi to take the gauntlets off, he's not just talking about the gauntlets, he's talking about Vi's use of violence. He's telling her that violence isn't the right choice. When Vi tells him he'd have to force her, she's telling him that she'll only stop when she's dead, that she will keep fighting, violently. You can't spell violence without Vi.

Vi has balls of steel standing up to the creator of Hextech when he had a big ass hammer and all she had were the gauntlets.

My take on Jayce's decision here: Jayce literally has no idea what he's getting into when he lobbies the idea. He's acting out of interest for piltover's development and growth, ideals of his that have been constantly sidelined and cut short for the sake of corrupt inner workings within the city - to him, zaun just happens to be yet another untimely, yet routine discrepancy that's come up because of THEIR mistakes. And so, he attempts to "rectify" the situations with whatever means he feels are necessary. Keep in mind that by the point where Jayce begins to head the council, he's become somewhat indoctrinated by the position he wields, and the tenants he supposedly has to keep track of to maintain that authority. He is far from being corrupt, or particularly blind to circumstance and external perspectives, but he's absolutely shortsighted, and operating under the notions of action before introspection - he sacrifices some of his scientific nature to adapt to a coming crisis. This is later rectified, by himself, by him actively beginning to explore the undergrowth of Zaun, the nature of the uprising and what their people have suffered through. Immediately after a life is lost, he refuses to continue any violent acts of force throughout the undercity, realizing he's not only caused immediate damage to those who simply do not deserve such, but has also overstayed his welcome in an issue, under an authoritative role that he was never in his strongest suit for. He's a scientist, an innovator, someone who considers various angles to create something anew. Something he struggles with throughout his development of hextech, without victor. But sitll a practice he HAS capability for. So personally, I think Jayce does get shit on a bit too much, but he very much DID make the mistake that even the best and brightest of authority figures could make: he accepts the hand he's been dealt, accustoms himself to the position. and succumbs to his self-ratification in order to adapt to that worldview. He made a mistake, one he immediately acts upon to rectify (his treaty with silco), and reshapes his character appropriately. It's solid improvement. Vi, on the other hand, we know what she's all about. She's desperate, angry, frustrated at the lack of fundamental motivation everyone seems to present towards EVERYTHING she's ever cared about. She'd take a deal with the literal head of the enforcers in a heartbeat (the man above everything, technically), just cause her trusted ally (and possible gf lmao) has implied their nature as benevolent, so long as they don't maintain the complacency that vander brokered with his own piltover official/acquaintance. Yes, her plan is messy af, resulting in a lot of people hurt, and could ultimately screw over piltover. But she is right in that it would ultimately wound silco, enough for his power base to be shaken - enough for zaun to start their own, internal uprising. She's definitely thought ahead - but it's all tunnel vision for her. She believes has no other means to even try.

it's hard to take sides when neither of them are wrong

Jayce speech is far from being maxed

It amazes me how people talking shit about Jayce miss the point of his character so much. His entire character revolves around the fact he's neither a Zaunite street kid like Vi nor a Piltover elite like Cait. He's literally the middle class, except since this is fantasy here the middle class can actually succeed. Sure he didn't have a traumatic and rough upbringing like Vi (like most people criticising him) but it's shown his family made a name for themselves through hard work and he himself is a man of action (ffs their emblem is a hammer). His entire arc is about him leaping from a pretty regular livelihood to getting involved with the Piltover elites that try to profit off of his and Vyktor's work and how he learns to navigate that world which is completely new to him. Sure he's an immensely flawed character but that's the magic about Arcane, every character is so flawed yet so sympathetic at the same time, all of them have great depth. Yet for some reason people get mad at Jayce and his decisions when in truth he's probably the closest one to the audience bc let's be honest, most of us can't relate to Vi's struggle (even tho we can very much understand it and I don't think she's wrong at all, she's defending what she believes in even tho it's a reckless route) and we definitely cannot relate to Cait's status. Jayce's upbringing and origins represent that middle point between the heights of Piltover and the depths of Zaun, even tho he clearly leans more towards the former. Everyone talks high and mighty claiming he's a hypocrite but I think he truly represents what an average person would do and think in his situation. Sure, Vi is right about this kid being but a droplet in an entire ocean of tragedy but are we really gonna pretend none of us would be shocked after killing a child??? Plus we understand Vi and trust her bc we've seen her whole story but she and Jayce had barely interacted here and as she herself said: Cait went to Jayce for help for a reason. The entire council only started acting bc of him, they were too blinded by arrogance to understand the threat Silco posed. I really hope they can come to understand each other better in the future, lots of awesome stuff can come out their cooperation and mutual understanding. It is entirely possible that Jayce will walk a power-trip plot arc but I truly have high hopes he'll eventually become a better man. TLDR: Jayce is neither a Piltovan elite like Cait or Zaunite survivor like Vi, he's a middle class guy who's work paid off and got dragged into the highest echelons of society and he's learning how to deal with that. His decisions are not so different from what either of us would in his position, and there's a good chance he and Vi will eventually find mutual ground and work together.

Ironically, the very power she used to try to stop silco (sorry if Im misspelling his name) is what allowed him to achieve his goal at the end of the season

Don't know who would win, perhaps both could given different contexts and situations. Still, very nice to see that both rather not.

Love the random enforcer they cut to, you can see him thinking "ahhhh shit, mom and dad are about to fight again"

"Why did jayce just quit?" Jayce is a good man that just did something that went against his very own nature. A child is dead and he is responsible. Vi claimed it was justified but to a man like Jayce death is never justified.

men bad grrr

season 2 cant come soon enough man, awsome show

The Top/Mid Laner arguing with the Jungler? This is definitely League of Legends!

Their lives and others in both cities have been intertwine for so long, and they didn’t even know it. This is master class storytelling right here.

It's gonna be interesting between these two in the next season. Jayce could try to catch jinx and vi not gonna let that slides. On the other hand Caitlyn mom is dead so it's could be possible Caitlyn want to kill jinx too and vi not gonna let that slides either but they are lovers so vi probably confused af in the next season. Definitely gonna be interesting as hell.