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@dantesabatino77
@dantesabatino77 2 ай бұрын
This frame is currently at the Packard Proving grounds all completely redone and working like new.
@XanderKiger
@XanderKiger 2 ай бұрын
Packard is way ahead of is time
@westinghouse1963
@westinghouse1963 4 ай бұрын
The truth now for anyone interested : William D. Allison, a brilliant engineer on his own, and out of his own mind, designed and developed that suspension, over the years following World War II, in his basement, in a vehicle known as a "cycle car" ; (frame, engine transmission, seats, NO body), as a test bed in the winter of 1949-50, as he was then employed by Hudson Motor Car Company, down the road from Packard. Hudson did not have the cash to develop this new device, which had been built and tested in an earlier form, in a 1941 Hudson. So, when he had the cyclecar, they granted him the ability to shop it to the industry with the minding proviso that in the future, they could use it if they wanted. Packard was the only company, who gave him the green light to further refine, and develop to fruition the Torsion Bar device HE created. The Packard guys at BEST, helped the refining, but the system was already devised, and was superior to a design they had monkeyed with back in the 1930's. and dropped as they couldn't figure it out well enough. Packard always bragged about their engineers, but had Allison not come along with this design, the 1955 and 56 Packards would have been as wallowy as any other car of the day. So there's history Lesson for you. P.S. Any of this information is available to read in many versions online. Its not this grandoise puffery piece out of East Grands Pr Devpartment. ( Packards home until 1954 was on East Grand Boulevard in Detroit).
@HAL9000-su1mz
@HAL9000-su1mz 5 ай бұрын
Unrewarded genius is a proverb. People continued to buy coil/leaf spring cars. '55-'56 had a lockup torque converter almost 20 years before the rest.
@davidgold5961
@davidgold5961 5 ай бұрын
Dig that necktie! I wish I had one.
@Bri-rb5lq
@Bri-rb5lq 8 ай бұрын
This system was ripe with problems the 1955 had all the electical componets on frame which were subject torain snow causing problems the 1956 packardchange it tothefender well on top dont remember exactly i had 1955and my dad had 1956s❤😮
@Bri-rb5lq
@Bri-rb5lq 8 ай бұрын
Too much dreaming andtoo much poor managment over the years
@Bri-rb5lq
@Bri-rb5lq 8 ай бұрын
Had a 1955 packard in the eighies
@neil6958
@neil6958 9 ай бұрын
Packard was innovative. It's too bad they went out of business.
@Retroscoop
@Retroscoop 10 ай бұрын
Didn't beat Citroen's DS though :)
@metricstormtrooper
@metricstormtrooper 11 ай бұрын
And also in 1955 the Citroen DS19 was released which made this entire car seem like the outdated horse cart that it was and help usher in truly Modern cars, but not in America.
@DrLesiaThePreachasDiviNation
@DrLesiaThePreachasDiviNation Жыл бұрын
I was a Dudley Randall Ballad of BirmingHam Dancer in the 80’s 👸🏽 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKjNfoyVZrWIibssi=mkByh6kjnL56m69W
@tommywatterson5276
@tommywatterson5276 Жыл бұрын
Chrysler Corporation had the same thing. Torsion bar suspensions.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of "foreign cars", the 1949 Citroën 2CV had interlinked front and rear suspension. Although Citroën routinely used torsion bars, they did this one with coils and pull-rods.
@maxima_997
@maxima_997 Жыл бұрын
Lexus LX470 with torsion bar suspension and automatic height control.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
The LX470 front suspension has torsion bars, but is the setup that was common on 4X4 pickup trucks - the torsion bars are not interlinked to each other or to the rear suspension, and are not part of the self-leveling system.
@Filip-pz7wu
@Filip-pz7wu 2 жыл бұрын
That suspension sure is amazing in effect, it's such a strange feeling the first time you experience it. I got my '56 Packard 400 not long ago and it took me a bit to get used to it.
@600miles
@600miles 2 жыл бұрын
1:56 the narrator has a black dot on his hand but is gone by 2:03 !
@Loulovesspeed
@Loulovesspeed 2 жыл бұрын
Porsche created torsion bar suspension in the 1930s for their race cars. Citroen patented it for use on passenger cars some time later.
@xminusone1
@xminusone1 2 жыл бұрын
They should have called Citroen. They already did that in the 30's.
@mikecone4049
@mikecone4049 2 жыл бұрын
How the fuck does this show up right after jay said go look for it?
@josephwarren3498
@josephwarren3498 2 жыл бұрын
Best part was his mustache. You got to love the 1950s.
@davidgold5961
@davidgold5961 5 ай бұрын
Yes, followed closely by that cool necktie
@z978ady
@z978ady 2 жыл бұрын
Krushchev's Packard is on display in a car museum somewhere in this country. Russians knew a good deal when they saw it. Packard was probably best designed car for the interstates in the 1950's
@xminusone1
@xminusone1 2 жыл бұрын
It's a GAZ chaïka. It doesn't have many things in common with a Packard. Exept from the front end. Oh and there wasn't many interstate in Soviet-Union in the 50's. Maybe you want to look it up.
@z978ady
@z978ady 2 жыл бұрын
Have heard reports that the 1950's Packards tended to be rattle traps as exhaust systems wore against the chasis despite promotional films insisting on how well thought out the rubber chasis mounts were positioned. The auto transmissions were full of bugs. I would think fat Packards were relatively trouble free driving on the interstates and highways but it is doubtful Packard ever reached the young executive they'd hoped to sell to, instead they were repeating themselves to an old, tired customer base in decline and packing in their Packard for the rest home. It was switching deck chairs on the Titanic. Shoot in foot technology killed Packard, with of without the V8. If they'd bought the rocket V8 from Olds along with the Cadillac hydromatic transmission and sold more high end luxury options, including "free airconditioning," and engineered a cruise control, they may have gotten further without blowing big bucks on crafting a doomed V8 along with a problematic one off transmission that was nearly impossible to service. They were digging a hole, not selling a customer.
@arise2945
@arise2945 2 жыл бұрын
@@z978ady I realize that GM sold Hydra-Matics to competitors, but I would doubt very much that they would sell superior engines to them. They did sell Chevrolet sixes and 283 V8s to Studebaker in the mid-60s, but Studebaker was a dying concern by that time. The Olds V8 was an advanced design for its day, and was instantly a hit with buyers. I just don't see GM selling them to Packard. GM was much more concerned with fighting off the Ford blitz of 1953, and incidentally killing off the independent makers as a result.
@YS_35
@YS_35 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how old days luxury cars chase softness and ride comfort and now the German luxury cars all boast firm suspension & sharp handling even for SUVs. It’s just some U.S. roads now look more like plowed fields than autobahn…
@nelsonfish7
@nelsonfish7 2 жыл бұрын
Me!
@cmoorhead1
@cmoorhead1 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha the scientific, finely calibrated, truth revealing, Ride-o-meter!
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what - or who - is connected to that pointer?
@JHGC80
@JHGC80 2 жыл бұрын
I've never seen such a weird mustache
@jmparker187
@jmparker187 2 жыл бұрын
If this suspension works so great, why isn't used on modern day cars, or was it too exspensive to manufacture today
@davidandersson5610
@davidandersson5610 2 жыл бұрын
As you saw when they loaded the trunk is this system sensitive to back and forwards leaning Therefore will this system create serious nose dive on breaking and lift on acceleration, and as breakes and engines got more powerful this problem got more pronounced.
@DETROIT1948
@DETROIT1948 2 жыл бұрын
Detroit Michigan Made America Great. Unions Made Detroit Great.
@TheXJ12
@TheXJ12 2 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the Citroën Traction 15-Six H unveiled in may 1954 with self-leveling Hydropneumatic suspension later standardized on the DS
@xminusone1
@xminusone1 2 жыл бұрын
I wrote almost the same things. I read the comments and many Americans don't have a clue theses car existed. I even read a comment that state "Khrushchev's Packard"
@zdravo4
@zdravo4 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2022. and I am wondering why there is nothing like that today?
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
Because it really didn't work very well by modern standards.
@brianworkman2747
@brianworkman2747 2 жыл бұрын
I was one of the people who you photographed on the ice. Glad to see you were able to do something with this story.
@glennso47
@glennso47 2 жыл бұрын
Chrysler took the Torsion Bar concept for their cars in the late 50s.
@Rollintogames
@Rollintogames 2 жыл бұрын
It's curious I get a 1956 packard patrician and now I'm always recommended these videos
@romie1967
@romie1967 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Packard Proving Grounds in Shelby Township, MI. Wonderful, historic place.
@jonhohensee3258
@jonhohensee3258 2 жыл бұрын
I WANT ONE.
@st939
@st939 2 жыл бұрын
Well the Citroën 2CV did this much earlier and much better.
@kylenolan2710
@kylenolan2710 3 жыл бұрын
My dad and his two brothers; born between 1926 and 1930; were poor farm boys, but in their teens and early 20's, all three had fast Packards. They even raced them some; including on a frozen lake.
@BojanBojovic
@BojanBojovic 3 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant commercial. Encourages scientific and technical literacy. Today, every idiot thinks that a 2.5 ton SUV is cool for some magical reason.
@kwb377
@kwb377 2 жыл бұрын
You realize he's showing you a 2.5 ton car, right?
@RandomGuy-qm3mg
@RandomGuy-qm3mg Жыл бұрын
@@kwb377 he can't possibly mean me! my 1999 Toyota Land Cruiser is only 2.6 tons....way different than those 2.5 ton suckers!
@Retroscoop
@Retroscoop 10 ай бұрын
@@kwb377 You missed the point: what was stressed was NOT the 2,5 tons but the SUV part The Packard was elegant, SUV's compete among themselves in arrogant looks
@V8_screw_electric_cars
@V8_screw_electric_cars 10 ай бұрын
This was movie made for dealers.
@antman5474
@antman5474 3 жыл бұрын
He kept quiet about Citroen's DS model of the same year.
@HAL9000-su1mz
@HAL9000-su1mz 5 ай бұрын
He did mention "some European cars" - having owned a French car, all I can say is....
@jessicaarverne1181
@jessicaarverne1181 3 жыл бұрын
The low cost French Citroen 2CV achieved pitch control in 1948. It did that only using helical springs. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGjTd6udedKNjrM
@pjd4268
@pjd4268 3 жыл бұрын
Was just going to say exactly this..Sorry Packard, Citroen did it first and ..cheaper.
@williamlegall2988
@williamlegall2988 3 жыл бұрын
Correct, hundreds of dollars per car, in an industry where dimes matter! What few realize about the system, is the car feels "glued" to the ground, for (besides the incomparable ride), the front wheel is pushing down on the rear wheel and vice-versa. It doesn't depend on the shocks to do the best that they can. As rather-weak shocks are utilized, there's minimal impact to the chassis & body. Also, the torsion bars last forever. Even the electrical portion of the system is incredibly simple.I only wish that Bill Allison's Son, could have an opportunity to ride in my 56 someday. (I'm "dreamin' here) Zero bangs, knocks, rattles and groans, and it rides like a train. All the cars but Jay's, that I've seen on you tube, are an insult to the highly-gifted designers, their legacies and their families. (You can tell I'm frustrated) Remains one of the two most elegant-vs-results (designs), that I've ever witnessed. The other has nothing to do with cars. Lastly: The last time we brought our car back to the original owner's family, we drove 690 miles in one day. Got home at 1 AM. The disappointment was, that the drive was over, for that day. My Wife and I were as refreshed as if the trip didn't begin yet. See: 56 Packard 400 Car-of-the-Week, Old Cars Weekly.
@williamlegall2988
@williamlegall2988 3 жыл бұрын
My 56 (400) is one of the last left to ride and sound exactly as intended and is incredible. Unlike any of the Torsion-Level Packards shown on you-tube, which (except for Jay Leno's) ride and sound like cement-mixers. Heavy shocks prevent the interaction from working. Dual exhaust are rubbing somewhere on every one of them, including the rear bumper. Few things will make a car sound worse. Decades-old suspension bushings create all sorts of knocks, creeks and friction. Loose jack, spare and all sorts of other annoying noises, in the trunk, ashtray and glove box, accentuate every bump in the road. I could go on.and on. It's no wonder these cars have very little value. From what I see of them, and if I didn't know better, I wouldn't take one of these cars for free. Another annoying thing with ALL old cars is the speedometer will be on its second or third trip around, with exceedingly-rare exception. One should look for worn or glazed finish on the steering wheel. Glazed and worn armrest as well.
@ManiaMusicChannel
@ManiaMusicChannel 3 жыл бұрын
And what happened to that suspension?
@williamlegall2988
@williamlegall2988 3 жыл бұрын
According to Bill Allison, at the Packard meet at Zimmerman's Automobile-o-rama in 1969 "It would have a manufacturers cost of $600 today" He went on to explain a situation, where a famous manufacturer saved a dime per door latch, to show the importance of saving pennies per car. BTW, What a quality person he was. Bill even hand scetched a diagram for me, on a paper bag I was carrying, to show why the car doesn't "dip" during braking.
@ManiaMusicChannel
@ManiaMusicChannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamlegall2988 wow interesting, so nobody did it after because it was expensive to manufacture? Because that idea for a suspension was very innovative
@kyle8952
@kyle8952 2 жыл бұрын
@@ManiaMusicChannel All cars use the basic idea of interconnection with a torsion bar, just usually only side to side and not front to back - to control roll in corners. There's a few manufacturers who still use the principle of front-back interconnection, but they use hydraulics or pneumatics to do it.
@desertbob6835
@desertbob6835 3 жыл бұрын
The '55-'56 Packmules were still using the dowdy 1951 body, cleverly refreshed by future AMC styling whiz Dick Teague. Packard had been going down the dumper since WWII, and George Romney finished them off by balking at the four marque AMC deal proposed by George Mason, thus forcing Packard to merge with another loser, Studebaker. The Packard V8 was a good (if heavy) engine, but that Ultramatic transmission was pretty much the Packard's Achilles heel. The torsion bar suspension came from Hudson.
@Paches92-
@Paches92- 3 жыл бұрын
If only that merger happened
@pamelabertrand5092
@pamelabertrand5092 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are too fun to watch! Thanks for making history entertaining!
@alanmodimages
@alanmodimages 3 жыл бұрын
A great documentary. I rode and worked on the Bob Lo boat when I was in High School
@virgin26
@virgin26 3 жыл бұрын
Jay Leno brought me here
@phantomcorsair8476
@phantomcorsair8476 3 жыл бұрын
Packard, the only true American luxury car. I love the 1955 Patrician the best out of all of the models Packard made.
@mattdavis9601
@mattdavis9601 3 жыл бұрын
When this car's a rockin' don't come a knockin'! Oh wait, it can't rock thanks to the magic of Torsion-Level ride. Great video. It answers some questions I've had for a while.