Hi, the silky nata it's a real beast, one of the best budget chopper out there, heavy and very powerfull, and it's Japan made. There are different size avaliable, with different bevel, go for the big one, with regular simmetrical bevel, on both side. There is also the asimmetrical version, like the classic Nata, the real Japan version, we would call it chisel grind. I 've had a classic Nata, made by Takeshi Saij, but it was'nt easy to use for us, you've gotta get used to, i definitly prefer a simple flat grind on both side, more easy to use

@zoroutdoor9 That's exactly what I wanted to know. Many places only have the chisel version in stock. I assume that one would be even harder for me to use since I'm left handed. Thank you for your help!

You are the one who knows nothing here. Did you see the video? Because the knife in question has a long series of problems, starting from the handle that has made play. On my channel there is a long list of videos about it, from the tests to the customization of the knife to solve the problems. Despite this, the SRK is a great knife, an excellent product with its history and exploitable design. But my advice is to buy the cheaper version, because at that figure the poor rubber handle and scabbard are a necessity and reflect the quality-price ratio, leaving aside these more expensive versions that are not up to the price for the product offered. Especially considering the price at the time of the video. Finally I add another thing you don't know, Cold Steel has never had any heat treatment on any knife, in fact it has never produced any knife. Cold Steel has always done the design, marketing and sale of its products, but has never made anything, exactly like Fallkniven, has third parties produce the various lines of its products around the world. Cold steel made in Japan are made by Hattori, which also produces all fallkniven and in fact use Japanese steel with Japanese-style temperament, very high that maximizes the cut. The Cold Steel Made in Italy are made in Maniago by the Maniaghese group in the Italian knife district, where Lion Steel, Fox, Maserin are found and have a lower temper to maximize the robustness, typical of Italian producers. In fact, when compared to a Bark River Bravo 1 CPM3V American, this SRK CPM3V Made in Italy has a tightly lower hold of the edge, clearly lower. Maybe before talking about the future in 20 years, next time study the present

Mi dispiace non ho più nessun tops, ne ho avuti 5-6 tutti rivenduti. Posso dirti che l'el chete è più potente in tutto, nel chopping è un mostro, ma pesa tantissimo, stanca la mano, è poco maneggevole e ha un manico scomodissimo. Il bk9 è più maneggevole, leggero, comodo da usare e non stanca. Per ripulire potature o fare campo è migliore, inoltre ha una vocazione combat.

Tops El chete Is a Better chopper, definitly more tuff in heavy use. The handle however is not great

Era stato già affilato un paio di volte, fino alla grana 1000. Il filo di fabbrica non era granché, soprattutto in punta

@@zoroutdoor9 grazie 🙏🏽 😊

Hai fatto bene, è molto divertente da usare, soprattutto su legna verde, vegetazione, è perfetto. Va meno bene su legna secca, fai attenzione perché non è adatto a rami grandi, visto anche lo spessore al filo. Da quello che dicono probabilmente Ontario sarà comprata da terzi e magari la produzione continuerà, però in Cina, sono ancora voci.

@@zoroutdoor9 grazie 😃👍🏽

@@rossi4382 this is ok for your judgement? I've never had a knife that i havent used kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2rcoHyjm9xql6ssi=rqoD0j2P2nHxTXi3

@@LegionTacticoolCutlery thanks for your kind words. I bought it from a friend of mine, so i havent had any issues with Survive. My friend had waited 2 years, from 2020 to 2022 for a big order, and he Is still waiting for a gso12 that will never come

@@zoroutdoor9 That's a shame man.

I don't like the presence of the finger choil, I don't like the colors and above all I don't like the backward balance. It should have been neutrally balanced, also to better use the finger choil. Having said that, it is a rare knife nowadays, given the situation of the Survive, I bought it to test the steel, because I have been wanting to test a fixed blade in magnacut for a while, so I am not interested in selling it

@@zoroutdoor9I have with Camo canvas micarta maybe we could trade scales.

@@retirementOwl first impressions, does the truth hurt? I have had several Survive around 4 inches and they were all perfect in terms of design and project. This One has several functional (objective) and aesthetic errors (aesthetics are subjective). Tell me instead why you like it

You've clearly never held one.

@@bigsalty3661 whatever you need to tell yourself.

@richardhenry1969 so you've never held one. Exactly my point.

@@bigsalty3661 no not really. But whatever you need to tell yourself to justify something you probably don't even use.

@richardhenry1969 I have 2 of their knives. I am speaking from experience. Also find one video anywhere saying they aren't some of the best knives out there. You can't find one! So when you say something like that it shows you are just repeating nonsense. If you had ever held one and used one you would know that they are one of if not the best knives out there. And at the price they go for they blow away anything in that price range. Unfortunately you can't get one anymore but if you are gonna say something like you did at least have a clue as to what youbare talking about.

I love how we have different opinions. I prefer knifes this big with finger choil. When they get behind the blade, they often get too narrow. Don't like it at all.

@@daginn896I also prefer the choil in the blade. We all use these tools differently

reiff is a very interesting brand, american, of two young and competent guys they work well and could take the market share that was of Survive. no problems in the quality or delivery times of orders. everything regular and precise at the moment. some friends have bought them and they are happy with them. unfortunately I strongly hate hybrid bevels and concave bevels. I'm not saying to make them convex, it would be too nice, but if they were at least flat I would buy them too.

@@salzherz3764 I don't like the presence of the finger choil, I don't like the colors and above all I don't like the backward balance. It should have been neutrally balanced, also to better use the finger choil. Having said that, it is a rare knife nowadays, given the situation of the Survive, I bought it to test the steel, because I have been wanting to test a fixed blade in magnacut for a while, so I am not interested in selling it

No they dont

Maybe some points in the video weren't clear. I clarify a couple of things. It didn't bend because I slipped it into the trunk and made strength laterally. He folded during the chopping, normal, which you can see in another video, against another knife. When I realized that it was bent, at the end of the video, I made this other video to talk about the problem, and I deliberately folded it laterally to the right and left to show how easy it was to do it, because it was too soft and defective on the differential heat treatment. At the end of this video I straightened it without any effort. I had and tried many tops, the best I had was undoubtedly the bob, so I speak with full knowledge of the facts. What escapes this video is not the single defective piece that can happen to every brand, but the production process of tops that is completely wrong. They make too many models, some, like this completely poorly designed, all with the same base steel, without differentiating according to the project, based on the intended use and above all the differential heat treatment, which they believe to be their strong point is actually the weakest point of tops. Because there is a person who does it manually on hundreds of pieces and this leads to a high possibility of having defective pieces and having two identical knives with completely different performances, which is unacceptable for an industrial knife. You can't go to luck, such a company must have constant quality. The differential heat treatment is exceptional on high-end custom knives, big knives, swords, made by expert masters of the ABS Mastersmith, by expert forgers, on the single quality piece, not by a company of this kind on the entire catalog of an industrial production. This is the point of the video, clearly it is my opinion, based on my experience.

I've never had a fake knife in my life. If I can't afford something, I get something else, not the copy. furthermore, testing a fake only throws mud on the original brand and the Chinese fake the most famous and best-selling knives, not secondary models like this one. That said, it was purchased new on Lamnia at list price. This knife is defective for two reasons. The yakare has an unbalanced blade, too thick at the tip and thin between the blade and the handle. this already makes it a bad hybrid between machete and big chopper. But not only the other reason why it is bent is the differentiated heat treatment, done randomly and completely wrong by tops. in fact the part between the blade and the handle is not hardened and is around 48 HRC, the etching they do on the blade makes it clear, because it reveals where the hardest part begins around 56-58 HRC. thin steel at 48 HRC bends like a flag in the wind. After having several tops and testing them, aside from some uncomfortable handles and cheap sheaths (like this one) and high prices, I can safely say that they have made some very good knives, like the Bob, which remains their best product, but that their the biggest problem is always the design and above all the differentiated hardening.

That's a good news

I prefer the Camp 10 for general uses, the 18 is heavier, tired the hand, weighs attached to the backpack, is very visible, is more difficult to control, vibrates much more, risks damage to the edge or bevel on branches above one inch, even if they are green. But it is certainly a lot of fun to use and have.

Yes of course, i posted a video about It, you can find it in my Channel

@@zoroutdoor9 ok I just saw it