Personally, I think it's a waste of time to farm sutras or incense in this manner, mostly because godborn exist, and sure, some will say, "well I can't beat satan" then just safety mode it, or if you want to feel like you earn it, then just cheese it with strategize, is not so deep, I personally did satan on safety, and now im going through my hard mode godborn run, and I plan on taking all the remaining superbosses on a regular strat without cheese or max stats, just for fun since I want to experience the battle for what it is, if anything, the only incense that are really worth farming in this manner, are the HP and MP incense, since well, we can't buy those on godborn, but I think this is still somewhat viable information to have up in case someone wants to do it like this, plus not everyone is willing to go into challenge and farm for money or buy the money mitama dlc.
@acidgod9077 күн бұрын
Ok use this comment to get some findings for incense and sutra farming for partner spots. Reply and make sure its correct to ensure no misinformation. I will keep updating it. EDIT: After thinking about it, I will only update for HP and MP incense because those two aren't purchaseable even in Godborn. All other incense is buyable and also can be traded with gems. 2nd EDIT: Seems like ababyharpseal reply below has all the info for almost everything you need. Thank you! Sutra Phys sutra - as seen in the video Fire sutra - ???? Ice sutra - ???? Elec sutra - ???? Force sutra - Chiyoda (CoC), leyline unknown Light sutra - ???? Dark sutra - Bethel Egypt area, Chiyoda near the Ishtar boss fight surrounding area Calamity - Bethel Egypt area Aiding Sutra - Bethel Egypt area Destruction Sutra - shinjuku (CoV) 3rd block Incense Currently undocumented for all of them
@adsfadsfasdasdfasf24396 күн бұрын
You know that you don't need to teleport to a different area to refresh the spot, right? Just go to the demon haunt and then return pillar out.
@acidgod9076 күн бұрын
@@adsfadsfasdasdfasf2439 good point, I didn't think of that
@J.aime_le_pain1816 күн бұрын
documenting incenses is less worth than sutra, because you can buy them in godborne, so not eing any documentation makes sense (and besides you can obtain some by doing negaciations)
@acidgod9076 күн бұрын
@@J.aime_le_pain181 you can also buy sutra in godborn as well so yeah. This is for people who are in ng or ng+ and don't have or want to access godborn.
@ababyharpseal65346 күн бұрын
I’ve actually been working on this for a while! My list is incomplete at the moment, but this is still going to be a long comment, lol. Assuming you’re approaching the highway from the Bethel Egypt Approach, the list of items is as follows: Spot #1 (below sand ramp on lower right side, next to van) - Attract Pipe, Fire Sutra, Health Incense, Aogami Type-2 Essence Spot #2 (top level of highway, left side) - Healing Sutra, Macca, Aogami Type-3 Essence, Purge Charm Spot #3 (top level of highway, right side) - Force Sutra, Life Stone, Aogami Type-4 Essence, Strength Incense Spot #4 (top level of highway, left side) - Magic Incense, Aogami Type-5 Essence, Aiding Sutra, Macca Spot #5 (lower level of highway between car and van, right side) - Light Sutra, Agility Incense, Aogami Type-1 Essence, Macca Spot #6 (top level of highway approaching red block, right side) - Aogami Type-6 Essence, Attract Pipe, Ice Sutra, Life Drain Gem Spot #7 (top level of highway forming an angle between two cars, right side) - Attract Pipe, Life Drain Gem, Aogami Type-10 Essence, Destruction Sutra, Spot #8 (lower level of highway on sidewalk, right side) - Vitality Incense Spot #9 (lower level of highway between two parallel cars, left side) - Life Stone, Chakra Drop Spot #10 (lower level of highway on sidewalk, right side) - Chakra Drop, Life Stone, Smoke Ball Spot #11 (lower level of highway next to van, left side) - Chakra Drop, Sleep Gem, Dispel Charm Spot #12 (lower level of highway next to car, left side) - Chakra Drop, Dispel Charm, Sleep Gem, Spot #13 (top level of highway next to van approaching red cube, left side) - Calamity Sutra, Sleep Gem, Chakra Drop, Luck Incense, Aogami Type-7 Essence Spot #14 (top level of highway next to van at the end of the road, right side) - Macca, Elec Sutra, Aogami Type-0 Essence, Vitality Incense Spot #15 (top level of highway next to car past red cube, left side) - Stamina Incense, Dark Sutra, Aogami Type-8 Essence Spot #16 - (top level of highway next to van, left side) - Battle Sutra, Aogami Type-9 Essence, Dispel Charm Let me know if you have any questions or need help finding the spots!
@Danewd98sChannelgaming7 күн бұрын
If we can just find a way to farm HP or Stamina Incenses, that would be amazing lol. You can't buy them on Godborn.
@ababyharpseal65346 күн бұрын
I know a way! There are two spots in Bethel Egypt Approach - one on the right side below the highway gives you Health Incense, and one on the left side just after the climbing spot gives you Stamina Incense.
@sp4rcky7 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video, those informations are very difficult to find. I'm particularly looking for Aiding Sutra atm, any idea of where could i find it? Edit: just found it! Its farming spot is just after the first broken part of the road, at the top, when you come from Bethel Egypt Approach.
@JoseGarcia-fe8bq8 күн бұрын
This is super helpful appreciate it
@donaldtrump27288 күн бұрын
How are you able to take innate skills off of a demon?
@harryhewson23828 күн бұрын
Masakado after watching Nahobino swap party members for 8 minutes: yeah sure whatever man, that was a well fought battle, get outta here
@jakett22168 күн бұрын
Got any other particular spots for other items (aka balms for non godborn/ng+ mc, the other sutras, etc)?
@acidgod9078 күн бұрын
Balms are limited and fixed once per playthrough on partner spots but technically they aren't limited because your demon level up can sometimes give you balm as well. I found Calamity, Dark and Aiding Sutra in Bethel Egypt as well. Force is area 3. Idk about others
@RinaShinomiyaVal7 күн бұрын
Shinjuku 3rd Block ive found Destruction Sutras with Navis like Nahobeeho.
@Rasec11208 күн бұрын
Thank you AcidGod.
@Fallen_20038 күн бұрын
Bro got completely folded. No one is safe 💀
@ultima11809 күн бұрын
Is it possible to do a similar strat with Lunar Hurricane?
@acidgod9079 күн бұрын
@@ultima1180 for strategize? Nope
@ultima11809 күн бұрын
@@acidgod907 dang, thanks though
@zephyrprime89 күн бұрын
How did you get Omnipotent Succession to remain after attacking once with it?
@acidgod9079 күн бұрын
@@zephyrprime8 i activate omagatoki charge with Baal.
@zephyrprime89 күн бұрын
@@acidgod907 Ohh I didn't even know an effect like that existed
@jakett22169 күн бұрын
A bit unrelated to the kill but man Tzitzmitl is my favorite of the field debuffer demons, it's a shame that she and her group doesn't do much but swap in and out twice before getting swapped for amanozako. Her entrance animation with the ornaments is just satisfying to watch for some reason
@lewisspring3510 күн бұрын
Hee Ho Gaming
@jakett221610 күн бұрын
Btw does cerberus's innate take effect even if he gets switched out?
@acidgod90710 күн бұрын
@@jakett2216 yes, but cerberus himself needed to switch on his turn. You cant switch cerberus from Nahobino turn.
@jakett221610 күн бұрын
Also low key wish that azazel/belial/tzitzmitl had a secondary effect related to lowered stats so they actually had a use outside of strategize shenanigans (ie tzitzmitl could offset the lowered accuracy/evasion with her own boost while she's in the active party, or just outright give a fat boost to that stat for that turn only while in the active party)
@jakett221610 күн бұрын
@@acidgod907OH THANKS A TON, how do you even gain his boost? It says that it boosts after striking weakness but from what I'm seeing it's just boosting the moment he comes in
@jakett221610 күн бұрын
Wait nvm I read it wrong, it's just boosting WEAK dmg
@acidgod90710 күн бұрын
@@jakett2216an example cerberus--> slot 1, dps--> slot 2 Cerberus innate is STILL active after he switched out from his turn. Need to be on Cerberus turn though, thats important. I think the game consider his innate to be active even after all that. Now whether or not its a glitch or intended I have no idea. I'm just abusing it lol
@shinyanakagawa824110 күн бұрын
Innate skill and strategize really has turned this game into a modern Yugioh gaming. What other Jrpg allows the player to actually otk the bosses besides Vengeance (and probably vanilla V)??
@cantthinkofbettername5065Күн бұрын
Off the top of my head - Persona 3 Reload (sometimes): Damage in that game is very high, and enemy health isn't very high even for bosses. Some bosses are scripted in such a way that their HP won't drop past a certain point until their turn comes back around, but others can be completed in 1 turn. Notably, Priestess (though skill change abuse is required), Emperor/Empress, Hierophant, Lovers, Strength/Fortune (presumably, I haven't verified this one), and Hanged Man (again, I haven't strictly verified this one) can be completed in one turn. Though Hermit, all Strega fights, and the final boss are essentially scripted in terms of how many turns they can be done in, and it's impossible to get the damage to defeat Chariot/Justice first turn (though it can be done with all the damage concentrated into one turn, just not the first one). - Paper Mario TTYD: If you've played the game, you know what Mega Rush/Mega Rush P enable - Pokemon games: While strictly winning fights in 1 turn is generally impossible due to how the game works, KOing each individual pokemon in 1 turn very much is. - Earthbound: There are 2 enemies in the entire game that are guaranteed to survive a Multi-Bottle Rocket. Against everything else those at least have a chance of being a delete button - Xenoblade Chronicles Series: While these games are in real time (so not a 1 to 1 comparison), there are some metrics that can be used as "otk" that are very achievable. Most fights in Xenoblade 3 can be done in under 15 seconds using Smash. Each game lets you kill most enemies in a single chain attack with the right setup. The first game you could win fights while "first 30 seconds" buffs are still in effect. X had a single enemy that couldn't just be one-shot (and that's only because it had 1 more HP than the damage cap). etc.
@yukotrey942210 күн бұрын
Bro I’m SO tired of watching strategize videos 😭
@acidgod90710 күн бұрын
Same
@baguettetheweirdguy252910 күн бұрын
Man i didn't expect that a simple critical bonus when hitting a weakness would make this big of a difference
@HispachioZ10 күн бұрын
Nahobino gives Masakado a Digital Devil Saga Jack Frost treatment
@Rasec112011 күн бұрын
Babe, wake up. AcidGod just dropped another megaten vid.
@prometheus402611 күн бұрын
219 magic Jack Frost goes CRAAAZY wtf
@acidgod90711 күн бұрын
@@prometheus4026 no incense lol
@prometheus40269 күн бұрын
@@acidgod907 BRO HOWWW that fusion chart must have gone hard
@acidgod9079 күн бұрын
@@prometheus4026 lots and lots of savescumming. I fused lvl 99 of both materials (thoth and agathion) cuz both have magic blessed upon lvl up. It gave me around 8 or 9 extra mag stat from Warrior Conception. Jack Frost having magic blessed on lvl up helps as well. From there on, I just prioritise +2 or +3 every time Jack lvl up not including prayer miracle. Jack Frost actually can go beyond 250 Magic stat with only +3 but im not THAT patient for savescumming.
@prometheus40269 күн бұрын
@@acidgod907not me realising that nearly all my fusions are shit (grimoire spam 💀)
@zylorixx81011 күн бұрын
How do I get Omagatoki Strategize?
@acidgod90711 күн бұрын
@@zylorixx810 part of the questline in area 2 with detective pixie
@verdethestarwarrior108811 күн бұрын
I honestly have no idea how Pandemonic Feast is supposed to work. I understand it increases the max hits of your multi hit attacks by two, but why does it sometimes make you do extra hits even against single targets? Does it remove the limiter that makes you only hit them the minimum amount of times?
@acidgod90711 күн бұрын
As I understand it, Pandemonic Feast increase your max hit by 2. But in actuality, it sets in +0, +1, or +2 for the ranges. So sometimes you can get unlucky and hit 2 hits even on single target. All I know from others telling me is that on Aoe situation, say you use rampage on 3 enemies; you can hit enemy A two times and enemy B four times and thats the limit. Basically in Aoe, 4 hits is the limit under pandemonic feast on 1 enemy. On single target (which is actually where pandemonic feast and multi hit shine) the odds of you hitting 4 hits is 2/3 iirc. Basically even 7 hits under Feast is kinda rare unless you use Omagatoki Dance.
@wideclide4206911 күн бұрын
These cheese strat videos are so satisfying after trying to do these bosses legit.
@MineNAdventurer12 күн бұрын
Man imagine if Paraselence Blur naturally Pierced, then you could be even more broken by using Transcendence (Actually wait does Transcendence count as a Charge effect for Omagatoki Charge? I'd assume so since it takes up the charge slot but I'm not sure)
@verdethestarwarrior108812 күн бұрын
I wish more demons got Fickle Personality, it’s one of my favorite Innates to build around. I used it on Yurlungur in tandem with Huang Long and Mermaid to beat Shiva in three turns. I never considered using the elemental enhancer innates to give Jack Frost an “artificial” proficiency with an element, I’ll have to try that in my next playthrough
@acidgod90712 күн бұрын
Agree, wish we have more Fickle Personality demons.
@Fallen_200312 күн бұрын
Interesting. It looks like there are still many broken strats to pull from. I have a couple questions though. 1)Why keep switching out Garuda? It doesn’t look like the passive applies only for one skill. 2) I also noticed that you made it a habit to switch Garuda back in just before attacking with Jack Frost. Is there a particular reason for that? 3) Why use impaler’s animus if you know he’ll be weak to wind attacks? Is the dmg multiplier on concentrate lower?
@acidgod90712 күн бұрын
1) Cerberus has Faithful Companion innate. By deploying Cerberus before the dps demon, it boost the damage if the demon after Cerberus hit weakness. By switching Cerberus to Garuda, Jack Frost gain Faithful Companion buff AND Force Enhancer. 2) See above explanation. 3) I'm using Impaler's Glory, which is 3.4x from Vile race (Baphomet here), I spread the buff from Baphomet to Arahabaki because of Khonsu innate. Animus is 1.3x and Concentrate is 1.8x. The only other buff that can reach Impaler Glory is Adversity but I'm not doing that because I'm lazy to deal with RNG. I'm sure Glory with Adversity will deal more damage but this isn't a speedkill showcase. Its to show Fickle Personality in action.
@Fallen_200312 күн бұрын
@@acidgod907 thanks for the answers! I fucking love this game; with a good amount of strategy and team building, everyone can be disgustingly broken
@ghoulishgoober312213 күн бұрын
Gogpog
@destroyerofworlds913815 күн бұрын
Just beat Satan with this. Great video and strategy.
@Nahobino_Yaka1915 күн бұрын
GOGMAGOG GAMING
@destroyerofworlds913816 күн бұрын
Plan to try this. I already have a Paraselene Blur build ready. Just need to level up a few more demons.
@RinaShinomiyaVal17 күн бұрын
Ah all Virus Carrier demons to fill the gauge. Neat trick.
@sofern268119 күн бұрын
How did you get absorb phys as a skill?
@acidgod90719 күн бұрын
@@sofern2681 from snake nuwa
@thepit786819 күн бұрын
You don't need any fancy strats. Just know what magatsuhi skills his demons have, be lv99, enduring soul and your golden. Fight takes about twenty minutes. Be patient and think.
@ferhbeirana15368 күн бұрын
Took me an hour to me lol, guess my strat was a good one but not fast enough
@DistressedCrab19 күн бұрын
At first I was like “hey where’s the paraselene blur” and then it happened. and kept happening
@sird856619 күн бұрын
Quais são as melhores formas de conseguir incensos de força?
@Noahs_Chair19 күн бұрын
I find really funny how unlike other bosses, pretty much every clear of this boss is some sort of unothodox strategy rather than anything conventional
@mynameisjeff651619 күн бұрын
Has anyone tried to see the full potential of Metatron's "Ceaseless Crucifixion" on Satan or another Super-Boss? Almighty dmg for him increasing by 1% per number of hits dealt by allies that turn sounds like it has huge potential.
@acidgod90719 күн бұрын
@@mynameisjeff6516 its not bad, but imo you pair him up with Huang Long (I have a video about Huang Long innate, read the description) Or pair him with Pandemonic Feast user plus Sandalphon for better fire of sinai.
@mynameisjeff651618 күн бұрын
@@acidgod907 Thx :)
@Rasec112015 күн бұрын
Would Queen’s Decree work well with Metatron as well Acid?
@acidgod90714 күн бұрын
@@Rasec1120 yes pretty sure it works
@jimmyv549420 күн бұрын
Dayum, I’m glad I have a reason to make a team with Huang Long now 😭
@VoltitanDev20 күн бұрын
Ultraman Hikari would love this build.
@zombyjano20 күн бұрын
I do think this design for Satan is really cool and I would imagine most people prefer this version, but I'm a little bummed it isn't the one from SMT2.
@Kanzuki19 күн бұрын
Why tho? They use that design in every game. It's time for something new
@zombyjano19 күн бұрын
@@Kanzuki Well Atlus does change demon designs often, but they're usually for a specific game and in other iterations they stick with classic Kaneko designs. I just assumed that the Satan design they went with here would be exclusive to 4Apocalypse, so when it wasn't I was just a little surprised is all.
@DrummerDucky16 күн бұрын
@@zombyjano Kaneko's Satan already was a Superboss in DDS2, so I guess it's fair to have the other design being the Superboss now.
@tbnwontpop88573 күн бұрын
@@DrummerDucky Kaneko Satan superboss was a nightmare and makes the Doi Satan superboss look like a joke. I still have ptsd from grinding the clear for that fight.
@leungklund643122 күн бұрын
I underestimated Gogmagog.
@quangchau751422 күн бұрын
why affi satan so weakness Light?
@noishhater913811 күн бұрын
Magatsuhi plunder does 2 things. First it guarantees that Satan is going to use a Magatsuhi skill next turn. The exact skill he uses depends on who he absorbed. The second effect is that his affinities change to those of whoever he just absorbed
@overlord478622 күн бұрын
How can i find this demon, for a quest?
@acidgod90722 күн бұрын
@@overlord4786 Satan? He is a superboss for CoV route
@overlord478622 күн бұрын
@@acidgod907 ok than you now i must fight with him
@Bulkynemesis453422 күн бұрын
Yo wth is this game anymore How much can it get optimized in the span of like 1 month within its release
@acidgod90722 күн бұрын
Unless new discovery happens or new glitches, I think the OP stuff has been laid bare at this point.
@JoseGarcia-fe8bq23 күн бұрын
That’s actually cool and quick question do the other supporting demons need to be max level
@acidgod90723 күн бұрын
@@JoseGarcia-fe8bq mostly the virus carrier demons for their luck stat
@JoseGarcia-fe8bq23 күн бұрын
@@acidgod907 I see thanks will probably try it after I do some other things in the game really enjoying it
@FunnyB226524 күн бұрын
Okay I got everything I need except Amanozako, because i am locked in the COV route.I know her innate skill can reverse the buffs but is there anyone else I can use to get my buffs again.
@acidgod90724 күн бұрын
@@FunnyB2265 this run I did was on CoV route. I'm sure you get Amanozako later.
@FunnyB226524 күн бұрын
@acidgod907 Oh cool is she on COV, if so how do I get here cause I looked everywhere lol
@acidgod90724 күн бұрын
@@FunnyB2265 did you do her quest? Did you at least went to Area 2 waaayyyy east side area quest thats blocked off? Its related to her
@FunnyB226524 күн бұрын
Ya I know that I mean as like in COV where can I find the person who starts the quest, sorry for not being specific 😔
@acidgod90724 күн бұрын
@@FunnyB2265 area 3 iirc
@BorsPepsi24 күн бұрын
It's Gogmagoging time!
@espada900025 күн бұрын
Cheesy one trick pony setup invented by a cheesy Asian player as always.
@Rasec112015 күн бұрын
Y u so mad tho? 🤣
@yoran40675 күн бұрын
the random racism lmaoo
@espada90004 күн бұрын
@@yoran4067 I don't see it that way so anyways......
@rpgfanatic97194 күн бұрын
@@yoran4067He's racist for saying asians are smart?
@MitsuSV25 күн бұрын
damn just noticed Belial is locked for Chaos route :( what should I do?
@acidgod90725 күн бұрын
Debilitate, thats what i did in this video
@MitsuSV24 күн бұрын
@@acidgod907 thank you, I was wondering why my Gog deals 9k damage instead of 13k like yours, mine has 171 str, maybe it's because of its innate? should I give something like slime essence to my Nahobino?
@acidgod90724 күн бұрын
@@MitsuSV xiezhai essence for mc, xiezhai himself and arahabaki plus gogmagog is 23 weakness. 1 weakness is 5% crit dmg. 23 is 115% multiplier. And yes, ailment weakness do count on xiezhai for gog innate.
@MitsuSV24 күн бұрын
@@acidgod907 nvm, just realized I frogot to put High Phys Pleroma on him lmaoo
@MitsuSV24 күн бұрын
@@acidgod907 ohh nice, I tried it using Demi Fiend essence on mc, and still managed to beat it following your video step by step, tysm