The dendroid fight not even be remotely close if the AI was smart. Sacrifice 1 or 2 stack against half and deal with the rest against the other half. Their slow movement of the dendroids will make it difficult to contribute and the rest loses shortly after. That being said if I would make a human controlled random army out of level 5 units, usually only the mighty gorgons, olghoi, liches or thunderbirds get the spot. The rest have too many downsites. Speed or impact.
@HeroesKitchen4 сағат бұрын
Thank you for commenting!
@Jurgen12344511 сағат бұрын
Titans attack: Hawk Angels retaliate: Tuah 0:33
@hubertpysiewicz517021 сағат бұрын
if liches just focus 1 stack at time they could win. AI in HOMM is bullshit
@HeroesKitchen8 сағат бұрын
The AI surely makes a lot of mistakes. But it is still enjoyable to see how the tournament plays out, no?
@KutaphoneXКүн бұрын
Impressive that Power Liches still lost it after taking down almost 50% of Thunderbirds with first volley, after AI's "genious" maneuver 😅 I was waiting for a battle vs Olghoi Khorkhoi and no disappointment there :) AI played well on both sides, blocking worms and preventing them from eating, on the other hand they still found really good spots to strike twice :) The better one won that battle :) Happy New Year 🎆 🌠 !!
@zbyszkozbogdanca408520 сағат бұрын
I noticed that when the AI is sure of winning, it starts making very specific moves. It was probably similar this time. Or maybe Im just talking nonsense :D
@HeroesKitchen8 сағат бұрын
Happy New Year to you too 🍾🍾🎆🎇 It is quite a pleasure to follow comments of people who write regularly. Thank you for that.
@blackwidow7804Күн бұрын
Funny how they loose to Birds but beat Gorgons lol. AI at its best.
@alexmontaner2874Күн бұрын
Tomate la molestia de jugarla vos. Prácticamente la velocidad le jugó en contra contra los gorgons y en la última.
@michawozniak5492Күн бұрын
AI played bad against gorgons. It should wait a turn and then have two attacks before gorgons can attack
@blackwidow7804Күн бұрын
Gorgons would still win but yes this AI fights are sometimes hard to watch.
@michawozniak549214 сағат бұрын
@@blackwidow7804 not sure about it. If 7 stacks of birds can eliminate at least 2 stacks of gorgons to pretty much 0, I think the birds would win.
@blackwidow780412 сағат бұрын
@@michawozniak5492 you do realise that Minotaurs beat Gorgons, Gorgons beat Birds and Birds demolished Minotaurs? Its dumb AI. Gorgons just need defend round one and is gg.
@michawozniak549211 сағат бұрын
@@blackwidow7804 in proper AI dumb game birds wait and gorgons move and then its gg for birds.
@mierleaalexandru6434Күн бұрын
make an army with just skeletons and liches and you are OP ...get the specific items for the skeletons bonus and after you have enough move to the items for liches :D
@HeroesKitchen7 сағат бұрын
Well, necro is quite strong on big maps, where you can farm to your heart's desire. I very much like to play thematically with them and sometimes I prolong the AI games, just to get unnecessarily big amount of them just for fun.
@Rotul90Күн бұрын
They are good because of chmura gazu they produce
@HeroesKitchen7 сағат бұрын
If you are referring to the Death Cloud, that is definitely huge for them. In this tournament they are often able to strike 3 or 2 enemies at once, and in real battle they force the opponent to spread out and not to crowd too much. Utility, damage - they have it all I guess.
@UgglemannenFTWКүн бұрын
If the genies didnt buff they would win.
@HeroesKitchenКүн бұрын
The AI falls for this free cast tricks also with the Ogre Magis.
@blackwidow7804Күн бұрын
No Genies would loose anyway. 50hp, 15 atk/def and 12-20dmg vs 40hp, 12 atk/def and 13-16 dmg. Do the math. And Minos didnt get single morale becouse this guy is using the wrong artifact.
@dilmata2 күн бұрын
Mighty Gorgons were moved so amateur. CPU intelligence is suck. In real time battle against human Minotaurs have no chance against MG
@HeroesKitchen7 сағат бұрын
The AI definitely makes some "pro" moves from time to time. It sometimes throws me off my chair. Like the first time I saw it moving the dendroids, which literally tripped and blocked each other... Well, it is quite fun to be honest. I've grown to enjoy all the moments of recording this series.
@xknxkn1392 күн бұрын
I think for better entertainment would be good to change up combat speed
@MihailParshin3 күн бұрын
I have a question. That Thunderbird was very squishy back in the day. I remember it was kinda easily killable and was only good for its speed and flying(when attacking castles for example). It was kinda average, even below average so to say. But here, in those battle series, that bird somehow almost never dies and wins almost all battles. How is that happening? Is there any upgrade in its stats those last years or something? I really don't remember that bird to be so strong.
@ЭдуардЯляев2 күн бұрын
Нет , они всегда были такие , вы недооцениваете преимущество первого удара , плюс молния это 10 чистого урона за каждого юнита, также 60 хп ,притом их навыки атаки ,защиты и урона все еще посредственны , особенно по сравнению с минотаврами
@HeroesKitchen7 сағат бұрын
I think it can feel squishy and die easily, because the Stronghold Barbarian heroes get primarily attack points and none of the units of the race are famous for their defense stats. Even with a level 20 Barbarian hero, you are more like to just have a few defense points from the level ups. The race is built for speed and hard hitting, greatly benefitting from Haste. Also using expert Shield or Stone skin is big on this race. What do you think?
@MihailParshin6 сағат бұрын
@@HeroesKitchen The problem is I don't understand a lot of what you said. When I was playing, I didn't undersand the stats. I only knew about the HP and speed starts. Almost didn't care for attack degence and others. And just because HP is always the biggest number, that was the thing that mainly captured my attention as a child. The other stats were just like a bonus. The game does whatever it does with its laws. I was just looking for speed to see if possible to catch the other units and "using the HP numbers" to consider how and who to attack. And about the 'squishyness', there were just some units that are kind of easy to kill and others hard. Maybe because they have good or bad defence. But as I said, I never paid attention to those stats.
@MihailParshin3 күн бұрын
While playing that game as a child, this unit was my favourite amongst the level 5. Don't care if they aren't the strongest or fastest, I just loved them. And somehow they gave me psychological advantage or fear if I had them or was fighting against them. I respected them even more than the vampire.
@HeroesKitchen7 сағат бұрын
Well to be honest, just a couple of these early on pack a huge punch against the map and help clear tons of enemies. Also later on, it is easy to forget/miscalculate how much speed they have and the effect of positive morale. I have lost plenty of archer units to those guys choosing to move instead of waiting and getting extra morale, before I can take care of them. 😅😅
@MihailParshin6 сағат бұрын
@HeroesKitchen I also vividly remember (because I only played as a child) that a lot of times those Minotaurs were screwing my shooters. Either with the morale or just because when they got close, they always took too much quantities and were disabling the shooter to shoot of course. But when I had them, a lot of times I could kill the AI units or when it attacked them, they were tough. And such, were taking too much turn for the AI, which was helping me to use other of my units(lv 6 or 7 of course) to kill other AI units.
@BloodRedPhoenix3 күн бұрын
Asids?
@marcinki29123 күн бұрын
In the fight against Thunderbirds it would be better and more fair if the Minotaurs defended the first round.
@blackwidow7804Күн бұрын
Yes Minotaurcan beat Thunderbird 1v1. The problem is that AI is dumb. Also no morale for Minos.
@HeroesKitchen7 сағат бұрын
When there are 7 stacks, and more units there is higher chance of the lightning activating and it is more impactful. Just consider this - if 60 thunderbirds get lightning strike on first attack that is 600 additional damage to the damage they already dealt, before the enemy retaliates. With 7 stacks and 20% chance to activate, I would say it is quite impactful. If it is only a few birds and just one stack, chances of this working are much slower. On the other side, good morale has only 12.5% chance to activate and it gives you a second attack after the enemy retaliated, which is not always better. What do you think?
@hrkozl3 күн бұрын
Pit lords did much better than expected. Also holy fck Thunderbirds are insane Oo
@regina_george340Күн бұрын
Insanely unreliable. I feel like lightning bolt triggers twice more often when I'm playing against them.
@HeroesKitchen7 сағат бұрын
Thunderbirds seem a bit more powerful in these tests too. @regina_george340 I have noticed the same thing 😅😅
@hrkozl3 күн бұрын
Minotaurs are always happy and ready for battle, good fighting stats and always good morale no matter the situation. Truely a gigachad of a unit.
@HeroesKitchen7 сағат бұрын
Strong and reliable hitter for sure. They need to be, after all they are followed by the....Scorpicore...🤣
@THE666CODERED3 күн бұрын
Why 80 dendroids in stack?
@ilikeanimeverymuch3 күн бұрын
Because this is their growth with whole build town without any additional bonuses such as week, external dwellings, grail or artifacts. Same as Magma Elementals they have growth of 8 per week. Also technically it is also (relatively) accurate cost wise
@hrkozl3 күн бұрын
Lots of forests around bro
@HeroesKitchen7 сағат бұрын
Just as @ilikeanimeverymuch explained.
@mezekielblondy60213 күн бұрын
May I suggest you stop for a sec at the beginning of each of these videos and show us the bonuses of each of these heroes? We don't all know them by heart although I'm sure plenty people do... And also if someone can explain why you skip the bag in the beginning, it seems to me lots of extra materials are good at the start?
@mezekielblondy60213 күн бұрын
Minos are kings! Nice one
@MedetZharaspayev3 күн бұрын
А где моральки??? Самый главный их плюс это мораль в любой ситуации...
@HeroesKitchen3 күн бұрын
You are right! I am preparing an alternative video for them (Archangels do not need the extra boost), which will have morale enabled. In my personal opinion though, as I haven't recorded and set up the video yet, positive morale will not be a gamechanger for most battles (that is my prediction at least). Do you think they will get more points?
@homersimpson68073 күн бұрын
Мне кажется автор юзает артефакт нейтрализующий моральный дух всех существ, что в случае с быканами , конечно, недопустимо- это тоже самое,что у горгон убрать смертельный взгляд
@MedetZharaspayev3 күн бұрын
@@homersimpson6807 я думаю это ослабляет миносов...
@HeroesKitchen3 күн бұрын
Yes, that is correct - all the maps were created with the Spirit of Oppression artifact which prevents good morale from activating, in effect weaking the minotaurs. However the chance for good morale is only 12.5% and I don't think it actually affects the battle results, but we will see this in the alternate episode for minotaurs, where I will remove this artifact.
@SnailBeast2 күн бұрын
@@HeroesKitchen It can affect battles with rocks and dendroids. In other cases not a lot of changes I think.
@Maxmilian6663 күн бұрын
Didn't expect MooMoos to lose, though lots of melee fights are decided by who hits first. And poor Zealots. Just checking their stats now I see how bad they are. Their dmg range ends where Minos's begin.
@HeroesKitchen3 күн бұрын
I honestly expected more from them too - with this high damage range.
@gdobrocsi3 күн бұрын
Do Zealots still have the no melee penalty ability or HOta took that away?
@Maxmilian6663 күн бұрын
They still have it. That's basically the only thing you get from the upgrade. +3defense and +2speed is worthless on that unit.
@gdobrocsi3 күн бұрын
@@Maxmilian666 Defense is not that bad against other ranged units, but I get your point. Z-s are not that great sadly :( .
@ЭдуардЯляев2 күн бұрын
@@Maxmilian666 очень хороший грейд у них , этот юнит должен такой быть ,потому что у Замка нет слабых юнитов и лучший т7 если в честном бою , притом они все еще стрелки и не имеют штрафа , самая низкая стоимость , так что они все еще хороши
@bekativus3 күн бұрын
Im such a sucker for these kinds of videos
@HeroesKitchen3 күн бұрын
I am glad you like them :) Stay tuned for more. I started the whole channel to cover these videos, initially.
@kostadinpantev3 күн бұрын
The problem with them is, units were designed to fit within a faction's roster. Genies losing to minotaurs means nothing about the usefulness of the genie in the Tower armies. They are fun, though.
@HeroesKitchen3 күн бұрын
Yes, you are absolutely right, but I really wanted to do such a league, where each will have the chance to challenge their peers. Otherwise, I have already planned series of full roster vs full roster for all factions. Stay tuned!
@dwarfstar56353 күн бұрын
Liches are no joke. 😢
@HeroesKitchen3 күн бұрын
No, they sure aren't. Also the bad pathing from the Dendroids is no joke... I honestly thought at some point, that the AI has its own challenge - get to the other side as inefficiently as possible.😅😅
@mezekielblondy60213 күн бұрын
It's fun to watch, because I can't pass danger 3 myself :/...
@HeroesKitchen3 күн бұрын
I am sure you will get there soon. That is one of the reasons why these games are so much fun. If they were easier, we would quickly lose interest.
@frantavopicka52593 күн бұрын
One thing later Heroes did well was separating speed and initiative. Imagine how much better gorgons would have fated with low speed but high initiative.
@HeroesKitchen3 күн бұрын
I don't know about this separation - I personally prefer the heroes 3 system - even before the turn queue was introduced, you could reliably keep the whole battle order in your head, based on speed alone. Could you tell me more, in what way was the separation good? Also I do like Tolkien's view on this - take the ents for example, they were super slow moving - both physically and as initiative - they took forever just to say good morning. So in my head the two have always been tied together somehow and it made sense to me.
@AgentZTN4 күн бұрын
Arch Devils should beat Titans if 1 stack only, maximizes retaliation. With full stacks, Gold Dragon should win with better AI positioning, as long as Breathe attack gives them a positive damage output.
@HeroesKitchen3 күн бұрын
These are definitely fun scenarios to try out - keep in mind that it very much depends on the special ability of the Arch Devils - the negative luck. If titans get misfortune on any of the first 2 or even 3 hits - it completely changes the situation.
@doomfakie4 күн бұрын
So, who would win thunderbirds vs minatuars?
@LoriX13244 күн бұрын
Minotaurs i thnik, higher dmg
@HeroesKitchen3 күн бұрын
Minotaur video is out now, and the Thunderbirds will be out really soon. Stay tuned, to verify your predictions 👍
@ukaszmozejko99844 күн бұрын
Not bad unit, but sure they missed something to make them great. Summon Demon ability and +1 to speed aside, they are identical to Pit Fiends.
@13X-k9j4 күн бұрын
沙蛇是真的变态
@MihailParshin5 күн бұрын
Even with the help of the demons, they are still weaker than most units. And if we take away Magma and Zaalot(who are just a joke of being on such level), the pits are just one of the weakest in their level.
@HeroesKitchen4 күн бұрын
Thanks for your insight! It's true that some units can feel underwhelming compared to others. The diversity in unit strength adds to the strategic depth of the game. Appreciate your thoughts!
@cmlcml4155 күн бұрын
Weekly growth 11 helped these bastards a lot
@HeroesKitchen4 күн бұрын
Absolutely, weekly growth can make a significant difference in the strength and availability of units. Thanks for pointing that out!
@krasimirdimitrov49555 күн бұрын
I don't like this hero at all :D
@HeroesKitchen4 күн бұрын
Everyone has their preferences! It's always interesting to hear different opinions on heroes. Thanks for sharing!
@mezekielblondy60215 күн бұрын
This is a great strategy for Inferno, love the demon farming with the pit lords. All that's missing are imps so you can use those instead :)))
@HeroesKitchen4 күн бұрын
Demon farming with Pit Lords can be very effective. Thanks for your comment!
@jonathanvanderceelen94415 күн бұрын
Damn, again almost perfect predictions. They're getting easier as the series progresses of course. The middle matches were very hard to predict though. The unit as a whole is hard to predict. Fast speed, good damage, can summon lesser stacks, but against all these other powerhouses...
@HeroesKitchen4 күн бұрын
Great to hear your predictions are getting better! The unpredictability of the units adds to the excitement. Thanks for following the series and sharing your thoughts!
@hrkozl5 күн бұрын
Where there's a whip
@ereniusz40655 күн бұрын
There is the way
@HeroesKitchen4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the fun reference!
@hrkozl5 күн бұрын
No wait strategy really hurts them
@HeroesKitchen4 күн бұрын
Waiting can definitely impact the effectiveness of units. Thanks for your input!
@aniabbb92186 күн бұрын
Strange...a cloud only hits one magma elemental 💨💀
@ThePhenom1705 күн бұрын
Elementals are magical creatures, not a life form therefore they are immune to poison, mind spells, morale etc
@HeroesKitchen4 күн бұрын
I believe it is because they are not a living creature, as @ThePhenom170 pointed out. I am a bit surprised that the developers didn't make them completely immune to Liches attack. It would have added a lot of flavor to such units and made them more useful in general.
@ThePhenom1704 күн бұрын
@@HeroesKitchen yep, all elementals except storm are pretty much useless
@HeroesKitchen3 күн бұрын
What about Ice elementals ? I think they are also useful and die less to castle towers and random opponent spells.
@ThePhenom1703 күн бұрын
@HeroesKitchen they seem weak to me, i mean their attack seems weak but maybe im mistaken
@filippecha79096 күн бұрын
Feels good to see this 🎉 archangels obliterated them
@filippecha79096 күн бұрын
Thats the reason i dont play this user developed bs datadiscs at all 😅. Stick to the original is the best 🎉 Shadow of war. No further.
@HeroesKitchen4 күн бұрын
Everyone has their preferences! The original game definitely has its charm. Thanks for sharing your perspective!
@filippecha79096 күн бұрын
Lol who tf developed this bullsh*t😅
@marcinki29127 күн бұрын
I'm looking forward for someone who will make these comparisons with hero stats more than 0/0 for e.g. 20/20 it would change some outcomes and surprise many.
@blackwidow78046 күн бұрын
@@marcinki2912 result will be the same if both heroes have same stats. It doesnt matter if its 0/0 or 30/30. Only creature with diferent result will be Behemoth/Ancient Behemoth becouse its speciality.
@lionheartfan6 күн бұрын
I guess also the Nixes for the same reason, but otherwise I agree that it would be the same.
@marcinki29126 күн бұрын
@@blackwidow7804 maybe you're right, but I remember I did this comparisons about 20 years ago and the results was different especially for each archer units. The boost for attack and defense is different for level ups so archers become more powerful. This also applies to the units with counterattack block ability. Maybe I'm wrong that's why I wrote this I'd like to see this.
@blackwidow78046 күн бұрын
@marcinki2912 you are wrong 1000%. Atk/def counter each other. If you give both heroes same stats its the same as 0/0.
@marcinki29126 күн бұрын
@@blackwidow7804 OK it might be true, I don't argue cause I'm amatuer (didn't play this game for years). I just thought that each 1 points of Attack add 5% to damage and 1 DEF decrease damage 2,5% what may impact differently depending of the unit stats, but after consideration you're certainly right.
@blackwidow78047 күн бұрын
Liches vs Genies: first of all Genies could win if they wait first. Second why did Liches get lucky hits??? 3rd Minotaur fight would be less close if again Minotaurs wait since they have spd 8. Same goes for Thunderbirds.
@coreymccreary73897 күн бұрын
Yeah just noticed xeron has +1 luck for genie fight not sure why
@HeroesKitchen6 күн бұрын
@@blackwidow7804 You are right - I just went and saw that I missed that one. Unfortunately it happens from time to time, when a starting artifact sneaks in, I am usually trying to spot and prevent these accidents, and had to record some entries over. On the good side, it did not really affect the battle results at all. I even caught sometimes a ring +1/+1 for example 😅😅😅😅 By the way it cannot be edited without taking down the whole video and reuploading it, so it will have to stay like this. Thank you for catching it and watching it so closely 👍👍😊❤
@hrkozl7 күн бұрын
Death cloud attack woooohoooehoooehhll
@lionheartfan7 күн бұрын
Pit Lords did surprisingly well. I expected less from them tbh.
@Klapan19117 күн бұрын
If you dont know anything it would be hard to believe that a P.Liches/Liches and Monks/Zealots are the same level😂
@HeroesKitchen4 күн бұрын
It can be surprising how different units are balanced at the same level. Thanks for your comment!
@jonathanvanderceelen94417 күн бұрын
Awesome! Looking forward to the rest.
@HeroesKitchen6 күн бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@mezekielblondy60217 күн бұрын
Well yes, godamn powerhouse of a unit. Necropolis ftw!!!
@HeroesKitchen7 күн бұрын
I can relate to your comment
@Sairento-kun6 күн бұрын
Still Minos better
@krasimirdimitrov49557 күн бұрын
First
@Maxmilian6667 күн бұрын
Hardly; the Olghoi will be first unless Birbs don't bolt on every attack.