Wood for the (Christmas) Trees
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About Wood For The Trees
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@mukkaar
@mukkaar 12 күн бұрын
Idk, just plant trees on unused land. If need be, it can just be cleared later. As far as I know, UK has huge grasslands that are not used for farming and people hike there etc. It might be animal grazing ground though.
@mattrishton
@mattrishton 21 күн бұрын
Get some Lynx in there; they will take care of the deer...
@mattrishton
@mattrishton 21 күн бұрын
Get some Pine Martens in there; they will take care of the grey squirrels...
@MaxAdams-yr1wu
@MaxAdams-yr1wu 22 күн бұрын
Four years on from applying for a Woodland Creation Grant, a bird survey, vegetation survey, £5,000 Environmental Impact Study and a long appeals process to the Government has all ended in expensive failure. Natural England's position now is essentially NO woodland on former sheep pasture in the Pennines because of nesting birds. and NO trees within 2km of a curlew nest. My experience of both Natural England and the Forestry Commission is that they have a very monochrome understanding of ecology driven by macrofauna - i.e. a restricted number of bird species. Their policy, as they describe it to me, is that they do not take any positive gains from woodland creation into account in such circumstances. And if you offer to control predators they say they disapprove of predator control - which is ironic, because ground nesting upland birds only exist because of zero-tolerance pest extermination by grouse moor game keepers. I don't say the system is corrupt - more that they operate in an environment of extreme intellectual poverty. On the upside, my ten year old plantation is thriving, with a wide range of fauna and undergrowth and the first signs of a woodland soil developing. And I can now grow almost all my own new seedlings from trees planted there in that decade - they are all producing viable seed - oak and Scots pine included. Give nature space, and it will come.
@jackstone4291
@jackstone4291 Ай бұрын
There are degradable tree guards now & many come with ventilation holes to help the trees trunk health !! Woohoo at last !
@jackstone4291
@jackstone4291 Ай бұрын
hhhmmmm to sycamore.. naturalised but non-native … support the native wildlife by supporting native plants and trees
@jackstone4291
@jackstone4291 Ай бұрын
hhhmmmm to sycamore.. naturalised but non-native … support the native wildlife by supporting native plants and trees
@AlbaGamerGz
@AlbaGamerGz Ай бұрын
forestry student here. Thank you and completely on board with CCF!
@OlabodeAdebayo-yd8pi
@OlabodeAdebayo-yd8pi Ай бұрын
thank you for this highly informative video. Apologies if its a dumb question, I am currently working on leasing 10hectares land for planting tress, does any of this grant help to pay and secure farm lands. Thank you.
@mezsaimnieciba
@mezsaimnieciba Ай бұрын
Thank you for good film. Where in UK are CCF courses for broadleaf forest? I am forester in Latvia and want to get more practical education in topic. Thanks!
@christoft5468
@christoft5468 Ай бұрын
SiXth not sickth. How do you rxpect to bbe taken seriously
@TheLaurencesachs
@TheLaurencesachs Ай бұрын
Good video, good questions.
@christoft5468
@christoft5468 Ай бұрын
Why not just make agricultural chemicals too expensive to use Taxes could be used to sisincentivise harmful agricultural practices. Give the custodians of the land biodiversity targets and impose taxes to ensure they are met and no I am not a young rebel I am a 76 yo farmer who knows sticks work where carrots fail.Gimick and hype increase public awareness but stopping the rape of vast tracts og countryside might be more effective.
@davebloggs
@davebloggs Ай бұрын
great video and a great idea . it does show that a steady income is possible at the same time as having a very diverse woodland but and here is the but many people see woodland as a first off tax write off im thinking of the terry wogan era of massive plantings in scotland etc. all same age all cut at the same time. people sometimes just cant see the money for the trees. where i live we do clear cut, but also have massive natural regeneration and also planting, spray lakes and west Fraser plant hundreds of thousands of trees a year. Weyerhaeuser finished planting 250 million trees . but i have to say as someone that spends a vast amount of time in the forests yours looks way nicer to be in. I think there is room for both ideas that is for sure and any progress is progress so a good thing.
@barrypatterson4915
@barrypatterson4915 2 ай бұрын
I do not consider that plantations and forests are one and the same thing. Forests should be biodiverse and different trees should occur at all trophic levels. Plantations are same species, same aged, equidistantly planted, monpcultures. If you are cutting timber commercially it should be referred to as a plantation.
@B_Ruphe
@B_Ruphe 2 ай бұрын
Wood *for the* Trees.
@RussTillling
@RussTillling 4 ай бұрын
Seems so obvious! If it looks ugly, mean and only benefits the shareholders of the investment companies who own the land, then it is unsustainable, basically, short-term raping of the land, nature, wildlife and everything!
@GregLynch-w4p
@GregLynch-w4p 4 ай бұрын
❤love. Trees
@philiptaylor7902
@philiptaylor7902 4 ай бұрын
Great video, good to see alternatives to the environmentally disaster zones of “traditional” commercial forestry.
@TheHairyFool
@TheHairyFool 5 ай бұрын
Best video yet Tom. Are you and David going to be talking at the APF this year?
@tombarnes2592
@tombarnes2592 5 ай бұрын
We don’t have a slot booked, but a conversation to explore some of the issues we touch on in the film sounds like a great idea. I’ll suggest it to Confor.
@pete_pump
@pete_pump 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic. Very inspiring. Thank you.
@adman123456
@adman123456 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately this type of forestry is not possible in the UK due to most of the commercial contractors do not have the kit for low impact forestry which they use in Europe unless they start buying smaller machines which do less damage to the ground and makes it more cost effective maybe look into low impact forestry machines which we need our uk contractors to use
@combitz
@combitz 5 ай бұрын
We've found ourselves stuck between the council departments with continuous cover management, we have a wet woodland at the side of a village with a small back road (lane) along one edge which is 220m. The ecologist and conservation side of the council want us to keep as many trees as possible, (which is/was our plan) however the transport department and the councillors want the trees felled and are pushing this by not contacting us then there is any issue ( a small branch comes off a tree or a tree comes down in a storm), then sending us an invoice for any clear up operation with many hundreds of pounds added as an admin fee. This is a self regulating department without any appeal process and even though we have shown we maintain the trees, they clearly don't want them there and we can't afford to keep paying their Dick Turpin invoices. I'm far from optimistic now about the future.
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 5 ай бұрын
if you haven't see Part 1 - here is the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6OrqYaEiLdrps0
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 5 ай бұрын
Part 2 can be found here kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnW4d6aerryNnsUsi=0Rj80A4sXz9R73vM
@MinTubaTuba
@MinTubaTuba 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your contribution. The videos are of such high quality, not least in their information content. Very encouraging.
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 5 ай бұрын
Thanks. We aim to get good quality information out there. It's hard work at times to research and make sure everything gets covered (and what to leave out), so it is really great to have comments like this.
@karmakimdaisy8680
@karmakimdaisy8680 5 ай бұрын
And what is the name of the predators he mentioned which can help control Grey squirrels? I got Pine Martin, was the other goshawk? What did he mean when he said it's not necessary its an irregular forest?
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 5 ай бұрын
Yes, Pine Martin which are being introduced and Goshawk which are currently nesting.
@johnschneider2429
@johnschneider2429 5 ай бұрын
Interesting video and analysis, but you left something out that seems significant. You mentioned that 70% of the land in the UK is in agriculture. Those are plants, too, and absorb C02. It isn’t just trees that do it. Don’t all plants contribute to the sequestration calculation?
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 5 ай бұрын
Yes, you are right. Though it would depend on how the land is managed. For this film, because we started around the time of the 2019 election where there were many promises of planting trees (for sequestration), we just focused on trees and some quite simple stats for sequestration of trees in the UK. We could definitely have written a dissertation on the subject, but we thought this was about the right amount of detail and depth that could convey this subject without making a film that was too long or unwatchable.
@OsirusHandle
@OsirusHandle 5 ай бұрын
(high land cost) = only absurd yields is justifiable, and nobody accepts expensive crops when you can buy crops made by people on far lower incomes (high labour cost). i believe agrof. can produce huge yields but ive yet to see any method of actually harvesting things that isnt shockingly labour intensive. perhaps simple strip polyculture helps: I know in south america they are doing big projects where they grow Inga, an edible nitrogen fixing tree, as rows alongside regular crops. But even then... I suspect if not for tradition and protectionism this country would become a giant suburb like the netherlands.
@karmakimdaisy8680
@karmakimdaisy8680 5 ай бұрын
Is he saying "irregular forestry" for continuous cover system, or "in regular"
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 5 ай бұрын
Yes he is say "irregular forestry".
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 5 ай бұрын
Thanks. Good questions, some of which are answered in part 2 out next week. Some which there just wasn’t enough time in the space we had to cover fully. This needed up being two films rather than one because it is such an interesting subject to cover, with much detail. But briefly: There are marked track ways which are used for smaller machines to go in and harvest. The harvesting teams know to aim the felled trees towards those tracks and to avoid regenerating areas. The wood that is felled is of a size and quality that makes it financially viable for harvesting. Like most productive woodlands, there is monitoring and culling of deer and squirrel population. And the encouragement of predatory species. Also individual trees are protected at certain ages/stages.
@Macaronyman17
@Macaronyman17 5 ай бұрын
Promising concept and really important work! My questions would be: How do you harvest without needing to destroy smaller trees to come in with machinery? How do you supply the demand for big quantities of the same wood (which I'd assume is the norm), instead of a variety of different typed qualities of wood. How do you deal with selective grazing from deer populations and invasive species, to ensure a high diversity? I'd imagine that might be really difficult in this system.
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 5 ай бұрын
See reply above.
@karmakimdaisy8680
@karmakimdaisy8680 5 ай бұрын
Wow so many experts in this video and they all fit together perfectly to give you a really idea of what is happening with UK woodland cultivation
@wijpke
@wijpke 6 ай бұрын
Simple plant more trees and have a negative population growth 😊
@edchapman7561
@edchapman7561 6 ай бұрын
Should not plant trees on farmland. Food is more important than trees. Not many recipes for acorns. Open your eyes and see how varied our landscape is. Tell the truth, Woodland Trust imported the Ash tree disease. Stop paddling lies about trees alleviating flooding. DAMS stop flood's from uplands.
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 5 ай бұрын
Food and trees can be grown together, and benefit farmland through shade and wind protection - See our Agroforestry films. But also as the 2 largest importer of timber (last time we looked) behind China, we need to think of trees for other reasons, timber being one. Not only that, trees are important for biodiversity. This is why we need to look at land use in detail to meet all of these (no mutually exclusive) needs.
@edchapman7561
@edchapman7561 4 ай бұрын
Does wood imports include chip which is burnt when UK should be burning rubbish and not the expensive recycling con.
@davidcupples7622
@davidcupples7622 6 ай бұрын
Xlnt
@natashalion8028
@natashalion8028 6 ай бұрын
Government gets in the way!
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 5 ай бұрын
Sometimes, but also sometimes it just takes time to find the right way to remove these barriers without creating problems elsewhere.
@MakeTechPtyLtd
@MakeTechPtyLtd 6 ай бұрын
Great work. We've investigated this topic too, and found on a glabal scale the same issue occurs. You sort of mentioned at the start about forrests being buried. But at the end suggested the absorption is a % per year. It would be an ongoing going amount if the trees were harvested and buried deep. Essentially, reverse mining. Mature forrests, etc, reach an equilibrium of carbon in/out. -Ken
@9trees977
@9trees977 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Thank you!
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 5 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@eshaali8961
@eshaali8961 6 ай бұрын
❤❤😊😊
@davidpenney2334
@davidpenney2334 7 ай бұрын
More houses being planted than trees....We are all up the creek without a paddle...GREED will be our down fall
@davidpenney2334
@davidpenney2334 7 ай бұрын
The jays do the planting for us, along with a few dedication tree planters up and down the country
@davidpenney2334
@davidpenney2334 7 ай бұрын
Whats holding it back is the land being swallowed up for housing developments we can sustain ....GREED is destroying us all.....
@pedromain
@pedromain 7 ай бұрын
Great video!
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Please share it widely and stay tuned there is another one in process.
@johnbooth3073
@johnbooth3073 7 ай бұрын
No mention of the invasive grey squirrels destroying your forest once the trees reach the age of 20 + years . No one is planting oak trees in the South of England anymore because of grey squirrels . Also deer grazing the seedlings and saplings.
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 7 ай бұрын
We have discussed grey squirrel in previous films in more detail. There was only so much space in this film to cover much more issues than were anticipated. But yes you are right it is a big issue. One that is being looked at by various different folk.
@wormsorensen3715
@wormsorensen3715 8 ай бұрын
The video is very misleading - it states that newly planted trees sequester C by 20T/ha/yr. This is far from correct - a newly planted forest releases C for up to 20 years. This is due to slow growth initially (a tree, the thickness of a pencil and 100 leaves doesn't absorb much C) and C released from the soil.
@abcdjkx
@abcdjkx 8 ай бұрын
Rewilding should be preferred over forestation in many cases. Tree cover is not the answer to everything, grasslands, wetlands and bogs sequester carbon as well.
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment. There are many reasons to plant trees beyond carbon sequestration - see our previous film on this topic. This film was just looking at why we are not meeting the government target despite the political and public support for tree planting/regeneration.
@holyshipman
@holyshipman 8 ай бұрын
10:10 the reason the carbon price is less than the cost to grow, is because your aim isnt to grow carbon you are growing a product which has a value of its own, either food or timber, also arable land is the best agricultural land and is the last place trees should be planted, rough grazing should be first to be changed from agricultural to forestry
@Albanach-je1nk
@Albanach-je1nk 9 ай бұрын
It's not just no to a United Ireland it's no to indepence for Scotland
@timclarke8565
@timclarke8565 9 ай бұрын
Quite possibly the most well made video explaining the absolute pointlessness of tree planting in the UK. 🤔 Carbon taxes. SCAM. 🤦 Removal of food production land... For it to be produced overseas. SCAM 🤦 I get the idea that more trees are beneficial. But... UK population growth is insane.... And they need food (not pork😂 or alcohol though) Would happily be schooled that I'm incorrect.... But I fear I'm absolutely not. Carbon credits... 😂😂😂 Ole' stelios easy jet pretending his flying birds = net zero. MENTAL!!! Meanwhile.... BraZIL be hancking the Forrest down to supply Chinese hog farms with soy. 🤔🤦🤣
@WoodForTheTrees
@WoodForTheTrees 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment on well made. It is a complex subject in a country with many competing land uses, that is certain.