Me to excited for this. I’m excited for everyone feed back. People told me they enjoyed it and like digestible feed back so figure things like this be cool.
@krazielАй бұрын
Yeah dude, huge disappointment for me here, I have the entire Direchasm and Nethermaze and Gnarlwood collection, and NONE of them are getting any specific warscrolls, just 2 generic warscrolls for each Grand Alliance? Using universal cards? The warbands that I use and have painted, lost their flavor COMPLETELY. Huge, huge letdown. I'll stick to 1st edition.
@hvn7erxАй бұрын
@@kraziel I feel this, like I didn’t mind the cards but the generic warscrolls just feels weird.
@seanalonzo9244Ай бұрын
If they dont end up making the warband rules free itll be a lot easier to print this time around. A whole deck of cards is a pain. A warscroll and unit cards is pretty easy
@hvn7erxАй бұрын
@@seanalonzo9244 I agree, but with today’s controversy we hear alot of upset folks.
Ай бұрын
Still dislike the new "art"... Photos of miniatures are the least interesting part of White Dwarf and now its all over Underworlds too... 😩
@nachtegellerАй бұрын
Great analyses. Love the stream lined choices they made. I hate that the used pictures on the cards. Looks cheap and tacky to me. loved the illustrations 😥
@hvn7erxАй бұрын
I agree, illustrated was good but sucks they don't do it anymore.
@petervandenbroeck62572 ай бұрын
Nice report!! But know that the gnarlspirit pack has been faqqed: he gets the spirit token at the end of the turn!!
@kraziel2 ай бұрын
Awesome battle report, and great stuff showing the cards being used I just really wish you positioned the camera on the board only, after the intro. That top-down camera has to go. It's doesn't look good at all and it's just boring as hell.
@singlespeedermartin2 ай бұрын
Great to have more Underworlds battle reports. Hope you continue when the new edition drops Good video and editing but a shame we never really get to see the figures.
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I apperciate your feed back because we want to craft a new way of viewing the game and find the right spot for all to enjoy. Also don't worry we will be most def doing Embergard but we will get it launch day so may be a bit late. Unless GW send us a demo then hell yeah lol!!
@Jonas_Fox2 ай бұрын
Love the Underworlds coverage. Can't wait to see what the new edition brings with the new flexibility.
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I do to, I'm hoping GW reaches out but if not I have to do release day. But then we got some new battlereports going.
@jeckles2 ай бұрын
I love these analyses because you actually call out what's bad and good. Theres none of that weird "You'll take this and like it!" attitude everyone is having.
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
"Thank you! I always try to filter out the hype and carefully consider the information at hand, because sometimes people chase clicks instead of facts. I’d rather be straightforward and honest. If I get something wrong, please let me know-I want to improve, not get worse. Thanks again!"
@manuelweaver65562 ай бұрын
Dude... "Give em the clamps!" earned yall a follow from me lol. Took me way back
@theredxyeah60262 ай бұрын
Happy someone got it! You rock!
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
Derek don't you got some pizza to deliver lol
@theredxyeah60262 ай бұрын
@@hvn7erx I don't deliver pizza! I flip burgers. Get it right lol
@GlassHalfDead2 ай бұрын
Crisp editing for an unboxing chaps, keep at it!
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
Thank you sir!! Means alot coming from you!
@henryrodriguez62602 ай бұрын
FYI, new board has 85 hexes. The old boards hand anywhere from 80-83 depending on how one lined up the boards. So, basically identical in area.
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
Weird, Nick in the game said it had more hexs like 2 or more lol.
@markreynolds14362 ай бұрын
Yeah - slightly more space, and no unused corners corners. Whether that actually makes a difference remains to be seen. I'm kind of hoping for terrain that has a game effect.
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
@@markreynolds1436 I agree, now I feel a bit lied to.When Nick said the board have lot more spaces it literally sounds like its almost the same lol.
@henryrodriguez62602 ай бұрын
@@hvn7erx Actually, the difference is a bit higher (by 2) when compared to the long board arrangement in WU'17.
@markreynolds14362 ай бұрын
@hvn7erx I'd interpret it as not having choke points or restrictive setups. Which is a shame as they make for variety and interesting tactical problems. With any luck that will be introduced later, with different boards, creative deck themes or as I said above, simple scenery.
@henryrodriguez62602 ай бұрын
GW did a good job showing off the game system. It remains Underworlds, just streamlined. Most changes were improvements (e.g. Crits, variable Fighter bounty and Upgrade costs), some were neutral (e.g. 1 die roll-offs and boards) and a couple are still a point of concern (e.g. Underdog). The starter does come across as simple, no doubt because it is designed for newbs. However, the lack of faction flavor remains a huge negative for me.
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
Which could come later so I'm taking my time to see it. But your are correct not all are major but the underdog one I was thinking how you could get bricked hands with out underdog. But they seemed to resolve it with being able to discard and get more cards with focus. But also with out restrictions you be more cautious to how underdog works and could also been an add it to add a layer of mechanics so who knows how it goes. It looks like the cards will have to carry the game for some of these questions.
@ongakuchan5872 ай бұрын
My condolences to Malik🙏🏼🖌️🥵
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
I think he still at the bus stop waiting for that bus lol
@ongakuchan5872 ай бұрын
No branded dice feels like they want you to buy them $eparately🤔
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
@@ongakuchan587 we kinda felt that way.
@ongakuchan5872 ай бұрын
Honest plastic crack unboxing
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
@@ongakuchan587 I think I just enjoyed the humor and having fun then be to serious but try to have make it enjoyable but it’s plastic crack for sure lol
@Kidcable2 ай бұрын
as a intro to kill team for someone like me that never played looks like it's a good place to start
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
It actually is
@alchemyacademy46422 ай бұрын
The new vespid models are gorgeous, I really do hope they expand the vespid line, in the way that they did the kroots, and port it over to 40k main.
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
@@alchemyacademy4642 that would be pretty cool how they are expanding more on the world and they be interesting to see in big 40K lol
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
I'd like to see them to because to behonest some the tau stuff is meh but those subspecies digging it very much.
@JadeJantzen-x6u2 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed watching this unboxing looking forward to the next!
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! It means a lot you enjoyed it!
@Lusk19932 ай бұрын
Ive been playing for 1 month only so the new edition feels like a punch to the gut
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
I can feel this, because you learn the rules and everything and then what? Like wtf, I dislike it for this reason to because I mastered the first game and now learn a new game like wtf! But I'm happy older warbands should be getting the updates they needed.
@Lusk19932 ай бұрын
@hvn7erx I didn't have enough time to get swooned so now I'm just stuck holding the bag for a game that'll be increasingly difficult to find matches in
@bobafettig88992 ай бұрын
I’m sad a lot of different things are going away and changing. The deck thing is pretty necessary given the scale of the game and amount of teams, but it still sucks. Main things for me is that less cards and less art should decrease production costs, a bit for the box sets but definitely a lot more for the individual teams, so if that savings gets passed to the consumer then I’ll be more happy with these changes. Also I hope there’s an option to use old boards and maybe the new decks can be print and play so people don’t need the starter set. The biggest decision point for me is what is on the those faction rules cards, will they actually provide flavor and unique abilities to your characters, or will they just be bland, because many things being replaced are moving to this card.
@zombieasphyxiate2 ай бұрын
valid point
@alexanderpopov35872 ай бұрын
I stopped after Nightvault, does it make sense to return with this set? It seems incompatible with the first two.
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
@@alexanderpopov3587 so as of right now the team is usable it seem until we see which teams they keep and get rid of. But yes, the cards and possible board may not be usable. But that may change with this weeks announcement. But the good thing is the way and should be legal and the new set you should be able to play them. I’m intrigued and think this is a good time to start.
@Rosemaryn-pg8rq2 ай бұрын
They keep ruin experience for those who started to play underworlds at year one.
@KikiMac2 ай бұрын
As a new player to Underworlds, I'm happy to see a new edition. I understand than veteran players will lose their boards/decks, but as a new player, these parts were difficult to obtain, especially for older warbands. Of which, these older warbands are also hard to find. I picked up Ylthari's Guardians and Thunderik's Profiteers that I found on eBay, but it only came with models, so I also had to try and find the decks, which I couldn't for a reasonable price, so ended up printing them off and putting into sleeves with Magic cards backing them. It really put me off the game with how much effort it was just to get the team I wanted to play. The new edition looks great for newer players. Being limited to 4 decks, and just needing the models and a warscroll for your team-specific pieces will be much easier to get into the game. Thinking into the future too, as long as all the decks and warbands are always available, it will be easy for any new players to jump on mid-edition too, even if they add more deck options in future. I could also see them doing a rotating format where decks drop out of the format after so many years to keep the card pool fresher.
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
I agree, as a veteran player I've rode the upsand down and built my community in Vegas and it sucks a lot of stuff goes but it also helps to not have lots of random useless stuff laying about or taking space or getting the something for the tenth time you know ??
@DaedalusShard2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've got Stormbringer and then three warbands from other place and the older cards are insanely hard to get. Free rules for 10 teams is pretty exciting for me given all I'll need is the new board, book and cards.
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
@@DaedalusShard I agree
@theredxyeah60262 ай бұрын
Time to get back in to underworlds
@jeckles2 ай бұрын
The veteran players are the only people this game is not for.
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
@@jeckles it felt that way as to reset keep inventory but ignore the player base. Have you played for a while ??
@MsPacso2 ай бұрын
They removed the strategic play with board placing, removed the uniqe decks of the warbands, removed the abilites of the characters. We'll get warscrolls (check the new skaven 2 out of the 3 can be used once/game) which are pathetic. The decbuilding looks like dumbed down to 0, even worse than nemesis, which was also stupid but at least we had the teams unique decks. Probably most of the current teams will go into "legendary" (only digital rules available, cannot bring them to competitions etc)they said 16teams of the current 58 will be supported with "physical" datacards. So all in all its not a reset, looks like they killed the game we played in the last 7 years. This is a new game.
@jeckles2 ай бұрын
@@hvn7erx Yeah, I have a lot of the teams up to now. From the perspective of the scene at the time, the game had hit a pretty good stride with Nemesis format. The last 2 were the 4th and 5th seasons of Rivals decks really starting to get good.
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
@@MsPacsoyou got some solid points. I want to address all but I’m out and value what you said. I will give a full response when home.
@hvn7erx2 ай бұрын
@@jecklesI agree, I felt the where going to hit the sweet spot then just reformat the game you know? But even I own a lot of the older warbands and it does concern me the kill a few off and keep other but we will see. This is why I wait for solid proof and evidence then ride a hype train lol.
@alchemyacademy46423 ай бұрын
All the new models look sick.
@hvn7erx3 ай бұрын
@@alchemyacademy4642 right! Have you seen the Reddit with page info on updates ??
@alchemyacademy46423 ай бұрын
Good match. Good editing. Good production Value. Subscribed. Any plans for narrative campaigns or anything like that? Or do you plan on sticking to one-off matches?
@hvn7erx3 ай бұрын
So yes, we are working on a narrative for 3.0 idea and we wanted to host like a mini tournament or do a season to see who wins but these are plans as we keep moving. We are thinking of doing a pateron to help support a studio idea right now. But thank you so much!!
@Antwonay3 ай бұрын
Very nice video man. The format and explanations are real concise and clear. Only feedback I can offer is that the volume on the edits are a bit higher than your speaking volume so I kept having to turn the video up and down (which is a little bit annoying if you're watching while eating or working) But otherwise I really appreciate the breakdown of the new rules!
@hvn7erx3 ай бұрын
@@Antwonay Thanks, I try to do my best in giving information and cut as much fluff and talking in circles out. I will do man. I kept it low to be careful not to blow out speakers.
@odricthorsson84403 ай бұрын
At first a was angry about it, I have 9 team that would be kick out next year. But, finally I don't really care. I'm honest with myself, I don't have the skills or the time to go at those big events. So to me, this change nothing for us, keep playing what you like with your friends or at small events near your home.
@hvn7erx3 ай бұрын
That's fair I know alot of folks take it to the next level and it's live serious ?? Casual is fun as well and I like narrative as well.
@SunlitSpartan43 ай бұрын
Here from bruh. ❤
@padorupadoru44773 ай бұрын
Nice video Would appreciate it if the white text font was more normal and readible (the orange title can keep the fancy font)
@hvn7erx3 ай бұрын
@@padorupadoru4477 Roger, will be doing that in the future and appreciate the support.
@padorupadoru44773 ай бұрын
@@hvn7erx love you too, no homo
@NormalizationBlues3 ай бұрын
To be honest the only real reason I haven’t gotten into Underworlds or Necromunda is because they don’t appear to integrate with AoS or 40K. Or at least it doesn’t seem it from my perspective (an idiot in a hurry)
@hvn7erx3 ай бұрын
@@NormalizationBlues Necromunda no but underworld does. Like crimson court can go to warcry and to AOS as generals
@theredxyeah60264 ай бұрын
Watched from the end of turning point 1 on. Wish I could've been there with ya gents!
@Dystopia0range4 ай бұрын
Dam, I love the objective markers! The only downside is that the ones I’ve got are annoyingly smaller than the objectives…. 1.75-ish inch radius I think
@hvn7erx4 ай бұрын
@@Dystopia0range you should check out Amazon the have good neopryne Matt markers like this.
@Vlad-pk8qd4 ай бұрын
great content bro keep it up! 💯💯💯
@hvn7erx4 ай бұрын
Thanks man! I love the idea becaue it includes the community and personalities you know?