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@marcobiagini1878
@marcobiagini1878 8 сағат бұрын
I am a physicist and I explain why current physics leaves not room for the possibility that brain processes can be a sufficient condition for the existence of consciousness. The hypothesis that consciousness emerges from, or can be identified with physical, chemical or biological processes is incompatible with current physics. It is a scientifically established fact that a mental experience is associated with numerous distinct microscopic physical processes that occur at different points; there is no physical entity that connects all these distinct microscopic processes, therefore the existence of mental experience requires an element of connection that is not described by current physics. This missing element of connection can be identified with what we traditionally refer to as the soul (in my youtube channel you can find a video with more detailed explanations). Emergent properties are often thought of as arising from complex systems (like the brain). However, I argue that these properties are subjective cognitive constructs that depend on the level of abstraction we choose to analyze and describe the system. Since these descriptions are mind-dependent, consciousness, being implied by these cognitive contructs, cannot itself be an emergent property. Preliminary considerations: the concept of set refers to something that has an intrinsically conceptual and subjective nature and implies the arbitrary choice of determining which elements are to be included in the set; what can exist objectively are only the individual elements. Defining a set is like drawing an imaginary line to separate some elements from others. This line doesn't exist physically; it’s a mental construct. The same applies to sequences of processes-they are abstract concepts created by our minds. Mental experiences are necessary for the existence of subjectivity/arbitrariness and cognitive constructs; Therefore, mental experience itself cannot be just a cognitive construct. Obviously we can conceive the concept of consciousness, but the concept of consciousness is not actual consciousness; We can talk about consciousness or about pain, but merely talking about it isn’t the same as experiencing it. (With the word consciousness I do not refer to self-awareness, but to the property of being conscious= having a mental experiences such as sensations, emotions, thoughts, memories and even dreams) From the above considerations it follows that only indivisible elements may exist objectively and independently of consciousness, and consequently the only logically coherent and significant statement is that consciousness exists as a property of an indivisible element. Furthermore, this indivisible entity must interact globally with brain processes because there is a well-known correlation between brain processes and consciousness. However, this indivisible entity cannot be physical, since according to the laws of physics, there is no physical entity with such properties. The soul is the missing element that interprets globally the distinct elementary physical processes occurring at separate points in the brain as a unified mental experience. Clarifications The brain itself doesn't exist objectively as a mind-independent entity. The concept of the brain is based on separating a group of quantum particles from everything else, which is a subjective process, not dictated purely by the laws of physics. Actually there is a continuous exchange of molecules with the blood and when and how such molecules start and stop being part of the brain is decided arbitrarily. An example may clarify this point: the concept of nation. Nation is not a physical entity and does not refer to a mind-independent entity because it is just a set of arbitrarily chosen people. The same goes for the brain. Brain processes consist of many parallel sequences of ordinary elementary physical processes occurring at separate points. There is no direct connection between the separate points in the brain and such connections are just a subjective abstractions used to approximately describe sequences of many distinct physical processes. Indeed, considering consciousness as a property of an entire sequence of elementary processes implies the arbitrary definition of the entire sequence; the entire sequence as a whole (and therefore every function/property/capacity attributed to the brain) is a subjective abstraction that does not refer to any mind-independendent reality. Physicalism/naturalism is based on the belief that consciousness is an emergent property of the brain. However, an emergent property is defined as a property that is possessed by a set of elements that its individual components do not possess; my arguments prove that this definition implies that emergent properties are only subjective cognitive constructs and therefore, consciousness cannot be an emergent property. Actually, emergent properties are just simplified and approximate descriptions or subjective classifications of underlying physical processes or properties, which are described directly by the fundamental laws of physics alone, without involving any emergent properties (arbitrariness/subjectivity is involved when more than one option/description is possible). An approximate description is only an abstract idea, and no actual entity exists per se corresponding to that approximate description, simply because an actual entity is exactly what it is and not an approximation of itself. What physically exists are the underlying physical processes. Emergence is nothing more than a cognitive construct that is applied to physical phenomena, and cognition itself can only come from a mind; thus emergence can never explain mental experience as, by itself, it implies mental experience. Conclusions My approach is based on scientific knowledge of the brain's physical processes. My arguments show that physicalism is incompatible with the very foundations of scientific knowledge because current scientific understanding of molecular processes excludes the possibility that brain processes alone can account for the existence of consciousness. An indivisible non-physical element must exist as a necessary condition for the existence of consciousness because mental experiences are linked to many distinct physical processes occurring at different points; it is therefore necessary for all these distinct processes to be interpreted collectively by a mind-independent element, and a mind-independent element can only be intrinsically indivisible because it cannot depend on subjectivity. This indivisible element cannot be physical because the laws of physics do not describe any physical entity with the required properties. Marco Biagini
@floridanaturalfarming3367
@floridanaturalfarming3367 Күн бұрын
Excellent discussion our darling miniature zebu know these so called theories as truth and have opened our mind to understanding another form of communicating with them with thoughts of loving energy. Morphic resonance is real, Thank you
@fishforeverlife
@fishforeverlife Күн бұрын
So take away time, space, the distance and the ONE does not exist or exist seperate? 😊❤
@wearytheory
@wearytheory Күн бұрын
I really liked the interviewers questions, does anyone know his name?
@retrocool
@retrocool 14 сағат бұрын
Maitreyabandhu,, he is one of the senior teachers at the London Buddhist Centre
@olivermatias2349
@olivermatias2349 2 күн бұрын
🙏🙏🙏🙏
@lindam4259
@lindam4259 2 күн бұрын
Brilliant!
@MyDunu
@MyDunu 3 күн бұрын
First decode a single atom then comes to consciousness 😂
@suecondon1685
@suecondon1685 3 күн бұрын
Rupert is always so fascinating, I love him.
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 4 күн бұрын
Now, what is ALMIGHTY?
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 4 күн бұрын
What is God? Gods of men come here in front and remind! In front of Thy LORD! Lord nought in front of Thee! Why say? Lord need Thy "i" Am
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 4 күн бұрын
Indeed
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 4 күн бұрын
Why say creation? Lord who else will glorify Thy creation in front of Thee?
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 4 күн бұрын
Creation who ye will say, who "i" Am? Lord through Thee!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 4 күн бұрын
Through HIM, by HIM, and for HIM!
@2550205
@2550205 4 күн бұрын
In the beginning there was W or D Something like a radius divided in two groups of two...aka W~ up And: aka equal to and equally offset by Θ As in θ aka the~Ta Something defined by a Δiameter and a curve aka D~own W~or~D... being motion would need to be aware of the state of re~sT and the stated state of motion as observable from any node as every node in all di as in Δi~am~εter dialed in directions the ions of Zion and all other forms of helium reduced to a pair of protons and a pair of neutrons when those two pair are not being called these two inert atoms of Hydrogen the generator s of t generations of mis misnamed this masquerading as that going ways that can not be named with one way and ψ directions looking for π connections where the intelligent curve knows its real relatives who have lived where they whorl~ since the movement that makes them observable began to begin. Call awareness consciousness or call both ideas of ness ness and understand that n is the idea of short horizontal waves while s is the idea of long vertical waves and ε is what Every Good Boy Deserves Fun reminds the musician in bloom to tune her guitar to When Roy GB IV is coming to town to be serenaded by an Ionic collection of the twelfth root of two dancing across the room at integer intervals while the remnants of the last tone struck~~~ remain playing themselves out in the net recognized by the nodes that hold the holes together with W's sewing the aether into itself out of its self.
@UniqueunlimitedBD
@UniqueunlimitedBD 4 күн бұрын
The KZbin channel video's SEO rating is poor of Due to this your subscribers and views are not increasing, and the titles, descriptions, and keywords SEO should be done correctly only then you will get good results. the same problem in Video every.
@tonyscholes9664
@tonyscholes9664 4 күн бұрын
Rupert on great form. Marvellous to see,
@tonysandy7803
@tonysandy7803 4 күн бұрын
Belief is theory, not provable fact (experience). Theory changes nothing - action does. We take things apart to understand them (analysis) and put them back together again to make them work (synthesis): garage mechanics are tested by taking a car engine apart then putting it back together again; if pieces are left out or the engine doesn’t work, that is a fail (surgery and medical school work roughly the same).
@waynemcdaniel7405
@waynemcdaniel7405 4 күн бұрын
Rupert should have a conversation with Andrew Huberman their mutual interest in vision and perception would be fascinating.
@loriscunado3607
@loriscunado3607 4 күн бұрын
Good
@peterbarker8249
@peterbarker8249 4 күн бұрын
.....?. ...'re-treat'......? ..why do you need to be re treated..🤔🤔🤔🤔
@johncheah5029
@johncheah5029 4 күн бұрын
My comment is not related to the topic of the video, which i think is interesting and beneficial, but the Buddha image is just jarringly muscular and lifelike.
@mazharali4163
@mazharali4163 4 күн бұрын
❤❤
@sugarfree1894
@sugarfree1894 5 күн бұрын
I saw the thumbnail, with just the first name of the guest and I thought, goodness me, Rupert Spira has let himself go...
@Crowmanzero
@Crowmanzero 5 күн бұрын
Good evening to one and all. 😊
@conversationsasnature
@conversationsasnature 5 күн бұрын
I love this man
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 4 күн бұрын
My pop will say, love you too! Like SON "i" with my pop "Am"!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 4 күн бұрын
Is like...pop "Am" let us make shared "i" Am MEN? Shared "i" Am come forth!
@hombrepobre9646
@hombrepobre9646 5 күн бұрын
westerners has a revised understanding of Buddhism, they created their own version afar from the real asian Buddhist religion, westerners say isn't a religion, but still in the category of a religion if you really understand the religion in it's practice from rituals, prayers and belief.
@SammyC27
@SammyC27 5 күн бұрын
watch Darren Brown and then you realise we can believe all sorts of things that are just tricks of the mind...
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 4 күн бұрын
Tricks come here in front and remind thy Aim in front! Lord from the Deceiver already falling in front of Thee!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 4 күн бұрын
Now Trick= "Who am I? Easily can be blown away. Easily can be used as puppets, pawns, or tumbleweeds! Why Trick thy neighbors given unto thee? Given to be ABLE to show off in front of Thy LORD!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 4 күн бұрын
Remember thy worldviews of How ye looking at my shared "i" Am Neighbors? Remember asked who ye talking too? From within thee! Remember is the HELPER the Comforter dwelling within thee nor the Evil one who have put curses upon itself creature! Where all lies came from!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 4 күн бұрын
Lies come here in front and remind! What do ye see? Lord not "Lies" but can be verified! Now, go to that creature and remind Thy LORD is HERE!
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 4 күн бұрын
Say, HE is rich in "MERCY"!
@robertjsmith
@robertjsmith 5 күн бұрын
Can you find division in awareness/experience?
@maitreyabandhudharmachari9989
@maitreyabandhudharmachari9989 5 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed this conversation with Rupert Sheldrake. A remarkable man!
@wizardaka
@wizardaka 5 күн бұрын
To be honest I'm very on the fence. I thought it was extremely entertaining, and that it's good that there's a place to see these kinds of discussions, but am unsure whether people will mix up Buddhism as a practice with Sheldrake's theories, which to be honest I think are pseudoscientific. I'm glad that we get a chance to see someone challenge the narrow orthodoxy of how we understand the world today though
@prakashikadh2561
@prakashikadh2561 6 күн бұрын
🙏
@sima3952
@sima3952 6 күн бұрын
@iaingale478
@iaingale478 7 күн бұрын
nice
@greenbristol
@greenbristol 7 күн бұрын
I enjoyed the talk especially as I was formerly a member of FWBO in Bristol. Is there any specific text or book that would explain further the notion of reincarnation as metaphor? I ask because I was an atheist but now believe that there is something greater than my own consciousness in the universe. Thank you.
@pavanisahrawat4798
@pavanisahrawat4798 7 күн бұрын
True ❤
@olivermatias2349
@olivermatias2349 7 күн бұрын
💓
@olivermatias2349
@olivermatias2349 7 күн бұрын
💗
@oliverluketaylor
@oliverluketaylor 7 күн бұрын
An "engaged life" reminds me of some concepts from Cal Newport's Slow Productivity book and his philosophy of the same name therein. Concepts like pseudo productivity and principles like "do fewer things." Thanks 🙏🏽
@oliverluketaylor
@oliverluketaylor 5 күн бұрын
Cal's "The Deep Life" (TDL)
@jessican1869
@jessican1869 9 күн бұрын
What a beautiful, inspiring talk! ❤ Thank you for your wisdom and creativity, Suryagupta! And many thanks to the team who work to make these talks available to those of us who can’t be there in person 🙏🏼
@josephsonoftheuniverse5541
@josephsonoftheuniverse5541 10 күн бұрын
Buddha wasn't a Buddhist he was a Christ but thats ok vhrist was a Buddhist and yes a prophet and more 💚
@Crowmanzero
@Crowmanzero 11 күн бұрын
The shape of things that were: so joyful to be reminded of how things were for this being. Thank you Holy Buddha for my awakening.
@Scythwolf
@Scythwolf 11 күн бұрын
Will there be more meditations made available in the future?
@londonbuddhistcentre
@londonbuddhistcentre 10 күн бұрын
Yes! We've been planning our online content going forward and we're definitely going to put out some more guided meditations 😊
@IELTS888
@IELTS888 11 күн бұрын
This is such a gentle reminder of how life is meant to be!!
@coraljennings-brown7177
@coraljennings-brown7177 11 күн бұрын
Literally came up on my phone while I was eating from a cereal 🥣 bowl flicking through KZbin- this has hit home❣️
@londonbuddhistcentre
@londonbuddhistcentre 10 күн бұрын
Hahaha!
@lizafield9002
@lizafield9002 11 күн бұрын
This is soooo well done. Genius. Funny & horrifying. I am inattentive & felt i should eat attentively...now this message.
@oscargarciavalverde2154
@oscargarciavalverde2154 11 күн бұрын
Excellent way to show it. Greetings from Mexico 😊
@sima3952
@sima3952 11 күн бұрын
This is so much HELPFUL.. Thank you for sharing🙏
@nicolaspear7267
@nicolaspear7267 12 күн бұрын
Thank you
@deandoli
@deandoli 12 күн бұрын
3:10 for the start
@borninwashingmachine4582
@borninwashingmachine4582 12 күн бұрын
Thank you so much, It has been a question in my mind for a long time