What server do you play on, and what is your main character?

Yes, each faction has a unique sound to their cloaks. Good luck hearing that when the stalker infiltrator cloaked 2 minutes before you even got to the fight bro.

@@Dudisfludis If its a stalker, true enough. However their behavior is frequently sitting crouched in a corner or on a box, and its actually easy to stumble into them by accident or for them to never decloak because of the kind of player that runs stalker. Yes I'm implying Stalker Cloakers are cowards.

how in 9000 hours did nobody figure this out? you're a prodigy dude. or... everyone already did and this is a get-gud argument. ;) one of those.

@@YewToobComment In the average Streamer's defense, I doubt they have the luxury to listen to wtf is happening ingame.

@@JormungrandrserpentSo if I hear the infiltrator it’s good enough? So, you’re just going to miss the entire point about how infiltrators can just cloak and crouch and then uncloak and immediately kill you? You’re going to ignore the examples in the video where I am close enough to hear the cloak and yet still not find/see the infiltrator until I’m dead? Is this really your best argument?

Do you know what dry humor is? Do I need to sound like an overly enthusiastic zoomer youtuber with sound effects and cuts every 6 seconds to ohio rizz you with my gyaaat?

@@DudisfludisI don’t really think dry humor is appropriate for this topic. I like some dry humor here and there, but the video just sounds like a downplay in validity of infiltrator. I understand that video shouldn’t be take too seriously though this can also ruin the argument on why infiltrator should be nerfed. People click on video expecting a serious insight on infiltrator, and to be educational on the pro and con of the class. You do show this, but the tone and the joke destroys the point you show. I enjoyed the video, and I have my opinions on the topic. But some of the arguments you pose is not as clear and convincing.

Thank you for not watching or listening 🙏🏼

Was with your mom earlier bro mb shoulda got some rest😅

The most solid take here. There are some tweaks that could totally be beneficial, but the entire 'it's not fair, delete invisi-men' crap is beyond insufferable at this point. There's always some new twat thinking he's going to 'really make a solid argument' but doesn't even so much a redress the same old whine. I swear, if they spent all that whine-energy gitting gud instead, we'd all be having a better time.

Thank you for not watching or listening🙏🏼

​@@Dudisfludiswell, if your perception is so biased against the Class, there is no base for a constructive discussion at all, instead just your opinion.

@@Diggsano Ok so then let me go through this point by point since you have your own bias. Let’s not pretend I’m the only one with a bias. Infiltrators use NAC because it allows you to activate it and run away while shuffling and take less damage. People LITERALLY use it for the active ability, so I’m not sure what else you could mean by this. Step 1 is to uncloak on an unsuspecting (or even suspecting) target, step 2 is shoot, step 3 is, even if you miss, shuffle a little bit and tank bullets because you have 35% damage resistance while running away. You’re delusional to think people don’t use this cloak at all or whatever you even meant with your comments about NAC. People do use carapace on Infiltrator. Not common, but it’s still used to avoid comissioner 1 shotting you. If you have medics around or in a squad there is a larger* benefit to using this. Yeah, I “showed a 5 second long clip with low graphics settings” because, sorry to burst your bubble, people do play with these settings. I know, unheard of. If you watched even 30 seconds more of the video I encounter someone who is 100% not using the same settings as me and walks right past me after WATCHING ME CLOAK. You conveniently left this out of your bullet points for obvious reasons. We agree Deep Op shouldn’t be bugged. Again, you see no good arguments because 1) this video is making fun of your own arguments and 2) not presenting the full extent of mine which could be a whole seperate video. So, yeah I might as well make fun of people who think being practically invisible the way PS2 has it now isn’t a problem just like I made fun of people for thinking MAX suits need to be stronger.

Can you name another game that has an invisible 1-hit kill class?

can you tell if I give a fuck or not? I don't even snipe and I ABSOLUTELY like the dynamic of having no sense of safety, even when you think you are totally alone. I hate to push the 'go play COD' cliche, but....go play COD you whiney twat?@@ssss-kg7wz

Damn, you sound really good at the game bro​@@horusthehorse

I know nobody saw it because any screenshot you take to point out where the infil is makes you look like a schizo to any normal person since there is basically nothing visually distinctive. If you show a screenshot of where that infiltrator is that you’re talking about to anyone without telling them there is an infiltrator they would ask what is wrong with the picture.

Oh its basically not there man And If I wasn't already looking for an infil I would not have said that's probably an infil, a few white pixels dose not equate to an infil. It would be so easy to fix bolters just put a longer delay on cloak and de-cloak make it louder for longer and allow them to cloak a little longer so they don't complain. Or make them far more visible and remove deep op @@Dudisfludis

@@upyermaw2732 Something for sure needs to be done to nerf infil's recon capabilities too. Either give another class a trade-off counter, or make infil's recon be tied to the infil, and not completely detached like the darts/dildar are.

Yeah, make the game more unfunny, go ahead

I disagree because the abilities are something you should always have access to with at least some cooldown or recharge. Imagine if a light assault only had a very limited number of charges on their jump jets. It wouldn’t be that fun. Edit: Spelling

Cool, so you ignored everything I said about graphics and examples provided?

You might need to check your actual monitor hardware or monitor settings. I used to play on potato, then got sick of it and started playing on medium, then upgraded my video card and play on high. Never had any trouble seeing them.

Honestly it seems like most of the problems arise when you mix invis and low-TTK/instakill guns, so as an infil main, I kinda like this idea

It’s not about removing the cloak for me, just tweaking it to make it more balanced.

Darlkight doesn't even work half the time sigh

Grill bad hahhahahahahahah

copium, time to git gud in a high skill ceiling game

Same but im ok with the controls

Yeah vehicles spawn need to be closer