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@vasilismouskouris Күн бұрын
So simple, so nice, so illuminating, so amusing!!! Great job!!! Thanks!
@mylesjordan9970 14 күн бұрын
Excellent presentation, Diane! You’re a born communicator.
@CelloRefinery 10 күн бұрын
Thanks so much Myles! I'm going to present my vibrato routine at the National ASTA conference in March, so I'll be refining my presentation even more.
@auroraborealis6009 20 күн бұрын
I’m recovering from frozen shoulder. Of course it’s my bow arm. I also play the violin and piano. I rented a cello last week. I also experiment with the mandolin and harp. Can you clarify my arm and shoulder position when I use the D and A strings? Those seem to involve a lot more shoulder motion. On the violin I sometimes drop the bow because my wrist motion is impaired due to 3 old surgeries. (It will not change). So I have to work on that! Oddly, it’s my shoulder that bothers bowing on the cello!😂
@CelloRefinery 15 күн бұрын
Oof, sorry to hear about your shoulder issues. I also suffer from some rotator cuff stuff that I have to be careful about ("frayed" not torn, but don't want it to get worse). I think a really useful trick for you might be tilting the cello so that your arm isn't so high on the A string. I have a kind of small cello, and I have long arms, but I tilt for more ease in sound production. I haven't seen this video for a while and I don't remember how in-depth it is, but start here. Let me know if you need more info and maybe I'll make a longer and more detailed video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXLCaWaCrtZlmdEsi=ptRRgXsClK_YjZqV
@auroraborealis6009 15 күн бұрын
@@CelloRefinery thank you!!!!
@artemi-music 20 күн бұрын
I think finger replacement one is the best all rounder for that work
@CelloRefinery 15 күн бұрын
Yes, I think so, but sometimes you need one of the others.
@artemi-music 21 күн бұрын
great explanation, thanks so much!
@CelloRefinery 15 күн бұрын
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful!
@artemi-music 21 күн бұрын
that is so genius! I wish I knew that sooner, your teachings are really helping me! 👍👍👍
@CelloRefinery 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, but I've been so busy lately that I haven't put anything new up. Feeling guilty!!
@artemi-music 21 күн бұрын
Great exercise, gonna try it out!
@CelloRefinery 15 күн бұрын
It's always worth trying things, even if you reject them.
@artemi-music 22 күн бұрын
Wow, that’s actually quite interesting trick, our hearing thinks that the shift goes downward, thanks a lot for this tip. It’s really helpful 🙏👍
@CelloRefinery 15 күн бұрын
It's weird, right?
@artemi-music 22 күн бұрын
Thanks, that’s more advanced scales, but still interesting 😊
@CelloRefinery 15 күн бұрын
Right, but always interesting to see what's ahead!
@veronicajang1121 22 күн бұрын
thank you for this detailed video! As a composer whose primary instrument is the piano, I was messed up by those harmonics, but your video is so helpful for me to figure them out!
@CelloRefinery 22 күн бұрын
Thanks, I've been thinking I need to make more harmonics videos, so it's nice to know others are checking it out!
@artemi-music 22 күн бұрын
thanks a lot for your video, it was really helpful
@CelloRefinery 22 күн бұрын
I'm so glad - I think chromatic scales are really hard to play well.
@artemi-music 22 күн бұрын
@@CelloRefinery maybe, but it’s really useful, especially on a fretless instruments
@Bannerkim1 24 күн бұрын
A nice study to have and review. I have not spend any time saying sautille', but know the technique.
@CelloRefinery 22 күн бұрын
I was certainly saying to a student today that sautille is just fast spiccato, and you can kind of do it without really going high off the string if you work at it.
@ramonaverrico6627 28 күн бұрын
Thank you so much. Your guidance really works. I am 71, self taught.
@CelloRefinery 22 күн бұрын
Brava to you for figuring out the cello by yourself!
@joshablatzheim9075 Ай бұрын
All the best to ya 🍀🍀🍀🎻🎶 Next fly after a long time again with my Viola to a Concert "Voice and Viola:" this time "unfortunatly " without Panflute 😢, next time😊, in Brandenburg neighbour State of Berlin (Berlin is a City State like Hamburg and Bremen/Bremerhaven),and I'm gonna fly with a small Aeroplane-Type ATR 42-300-TYP🛩=🚜 , a Turbopropp Machine, from my hometown which is a Middle-Size European City to Berlin BER Aéroport, it is the "only Airline ", which flies to Berlin BER, again it is a "Provincial Aéroport "🤷🛩=🚜, but at least a Boeing 737-800, or an Airbus A320 can take off and land there, at least 🤷👍🎊 I called the travel Agency of the Airline, it is neither Lufthansa, nor Star Alliance Member, it is a Danish Regional Airline 🇪🇺🇩🇰called DAT (Danish Air Transport),but it is "actually " "Air Lithuania ", the Crew comes from 🇪🇺🇱🇹, a "European Union Huge Problem,cause they are "cheaper" than we "Western Europeans, which is an awful sad Topic by us in the EU‼️.The Collègues Violonists and we Violists, or any Instrument in that size, we cannot seat bellted fixinating it like you guys Cellists 🤷, so "only Overhead Compartments ", NO MAIN TRUNK OF THE AEROPLANE ‼️‼️= A NO GO‼️‼️" They said, it should be all right!! I Deeply hope 😬🙏‼️‼️‼️ So thank you for your very kind Information Video and ai deeply hope you had a wonderful time à l'Europe, was it La Répùblica Italianna? 🇪🇺🇮🇹? Et la France 🇪🇺🇫🇷 en "seulement route passer " pour les Étas Unis? Paris Charles de Gaulles? We were last year in your Country 🇺🇸 in Seattle, Nothern California between Yosemitie Natl.Park and Stanislaus Park, Arnold Park= beloved gorgeous ‼️‼️ such beauty ‼️‼️‼️ and at the End visiting a friend, who lives in Manhattan, three Blocks from the One World Trade Center, he sadly tragically awfully experianced 9/11, when first Aeroplane smashed in he was at that second under the Shower, and when sadly tragically awfully segonde Aeroplane smashed into the 2nd South Tower, he just left his Apartment Building escaping to the North to Bronx, took the Subway, which rode at that time still, when rhe desaster awfully happened , Towers collapsed, I doubt thatvthey drove😢he stayed in Bronx for a Month, it is a friend if my husbund, he is pretty wealthy (Millionaire), we are not 🤷🙃🫠🤷‼️‼️‼️ So that was before I met my husbund, two years ago, when I returned back hime, we met each other three days after my Arrival, I arrived six days befor the Attacks in PDX, thank God I was by you guys in PDX, gorgeous Oregon‼️‼️‼️🙏 I studied two years at "Marylhurst University ", which sadly does not exist anymore😢‼️‼️‼️it is soooo gorgeous there à Oregon🧡❤ unfortunatly we could not make it there last year, maybe in a few years, spending money for the Trip 😬🤷 Again all the best to you and I have to say your playing is sooo breath taking beautiful, thank you🙏🎻🎶🧡 Kind regards from 🇪🇺 🇩🇪 South Black Forest Region to gorgeous Oregon, US🇺🇸, Your Classical Tenor-Singer-Violist-Panflutist-Collègue, Josha 🙋
@지진환-k9j Ай бұрын
Awesome!!!
@CelloRefinery Ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@joshablatzheim9075 Ай бұрын
Merci beaucoup 🙏🎶🎻 c'est très superb haute sublime!!! Grandes Saluts à Oregon, to PDX, j'ai habité deux ans en ce State and City, was very gorgeous Time!!! All the best to you 🍀🍀🍀 Kind regards from a Classical Tenor Singer-Violist-Panflutist Collègue from 🇪🇺🇩🇪, Josha 🙋
@CelloRefinery Ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it, and yes, Oregon is very beautiful!
@joshablatzheim9075 Ай бұрын
Greetings to Oregon 🇺🇲🎶🎻= à la Cello for you I lived studied in PDX from 2001-2003. Kind regards from Europe 🇪🇺🇩🇪 From the "German Toscany" South Black Forest, 40 Min away to Freiburg im Breisgau, 30 Min to Basel 🇨🇭, 20 Min to Mulhouse 🇪🇺🇲🇫, From an Classical Tenor-Singer-Violist-Panflutist Collègue, Josha 🙋
@young_aclement4134 Ай бұрын
Hello Diana ! I am well with tenor clef on cello but I’m not so sure of about treble clef for the cello. I ask many of musicians and more I listen them I getting more struggles. Would teach me how. I reads treble clef but I don’t what string to go on cello. Please help!!
@CelloRefinery Ай бұрын
This is a very good question, and I will make a video very soon (maybe next week?) with some suggestions about this. Thanks!
@young_aclement4134 Ай бұрын
@@CelloRefinery thank you for your kindness 🍎
@montalvostrings6518 Ай бұрын
Hi! Can I ask what is the model and brand of your cello case? I want to see if my cello’s case is similar dimensions to yours before I buy it a Transpacific flight ticket. Thanks @cellorefinery
@marcelogeronimo6612 Ай бұрын
bom muito
@CelloRefinery 22 күн бұрын
grazie!
@patdimitri Ай бұрын
Thank you for this very helpful video. I have a very obscure question - I play what is an essentially a modern intrepretation of an arpeggione with a german grip and since this is a very uncommon instrument I struggle to see where to pull information to try and refine my technique. Does it make sense for me to be pulling stuff from cellists ?
@CelloRefinery Ай бұрын
Wow, that is super cool! Yes, from what I know (and can see on videos), the bow technique of arpeggione is most closely aligned to that of cello. I would think 98% of cello bow technique would apply.
@RealKorean8080 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your brilliant lesson on pizzicato. Great!
@CelloRefinery Ай бұрын
Thanks, glad you found it useful!
@grog0cean Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@CelloRefinery Ай бұрын
Sometimes the short videos are just enough info - glad it was useful.
@brentwinfield5713 2 ай бұрын
Hi Diane, I’m not stoned today. Beautiful lesson. Thank you for your service
@CelloRefinery 2 ай бұрын
Haha, no laugh emoji here or I would have used it. Thank you!
@mrssibelius 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely support this fingering, I call it finger pattern No 6. Such an improvement on everyones' intonation. If one thinks of it as one broadesr position you can play in all 12 keys up to eb/d# on the a string like Stephan Braun the jazz cellist teaches us. Out with the old 1-2 4 1-2 4 12 4 12 4 1 34 fingering, yaaeee!
@anna-mariaflanegan1351 2 ай бұрын
As an adult Cello learner my, l battle with first position on the A string, playing C to D and back to C. Do l really have to keep fingers 3+4 down when playing the D, or can l leave finger 3 off the string when playing to the C and back to finger 2? I find finger 2 shifting from its original position causing a sharpened C! I would appreciate your advice very much, if possible!
@CelloRefinery 2 ай бұрын
You are not alone! The adult hand is much less flexible than a young hand, and this is a significant problem for adult learners. Here is a video that explains why: kzbin.info/www/bejne/epS5i56LnsmHf68si=CVLYoIgHtd5TbIa1 Don't get into the habit of holding your 3rd up in the air - that's putting tension in your hand. You need to drop the fingers onto the string, as in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJXXi2CfYq-SbJIsi=G12P0h_lBvHgvNdf But you might benefit from PIVOTING over to 4th and then back to 2nd. Here is how to do that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inqZlpmPi6uKjcksi=8zuLr0cTR-w9GBA8 In the final analysis, this is a complex problem that a teacher might be able to help you with. Good luck!
@markknill3280 2 ай бұрын
6 methods! Who knew! Thanks, Diane
@CelloRefinery 2 ай бұрын
Actually, as soon as I finished the video I started practicing something that had a bunch of chords and fifths, and realized there were some more subtle variations that I was using. So maybe it's an infinite number of ways!!
@Dparrey 2 ай бұрын
Seems like the links are missing from the page now sadly.
@CelloRefinery 2 ай бұрын
I'll go look at that again; you are not the only one that has mentioned this. Meanwhile, here's the link: cellochaplin.wixsite.com/cellorefinery/leftarm-refinery
@Dparrey 2 ай бұрын
@@CelloRefinery thanks for the reply! Actually I have that page but that's the issue. It only shows vibrato fingers photo link and none of the previous links like the universal scales pdfs etc
@CelloRefinery 2 ай бұрын
@@Dparrey Hmmm, how is that possible? The page opens for me. Try here for the pdf 4fa56794-24a2-4146-8117-665da557d9e5.filesusr.com/ugd/5ded15_4d011b8e91064b4491e430a84085bd52.pdf
@Dparrey 2 ай бұрын
@@CelloRefinery I did a little testing and just figured out that it shows like that on mobile for me. Android and on chrome for reference. But on desktop browser mode shows normally. Thanks for your help and amazing content ☺️
@CelloRefinery 2 ай бұрын
@@Dparrey I was wondering if it was an equipment problem - I think there's too much content on that page for mobile, but I'll see if I can edit it so things show. Thanks for the input!
@danielrosen4496 2 ай бұрын
Very good video-even for Violinists🥀
@CelloRefinery 2 ай бұрын
I think it's easier to do detache on the violin, because you can kind of pull down rather than across like the cello. But yes, everything else is pretty much the same!
@danielrosen4496 2 ай бұрын
@@CelloRefinery What a liked was your reference to using the elbow as a "hinge". I found that helpful as it helped me to relax my upper arm and do the stroke better.🥀
@bobluegi7120 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been wondering about that, not that i’m even on a level as to where that is practical information for me to learn
@CelloRefinery 2 ай бұрын
Well, I think it's good to be aware of things even if you can't quite do them. With adults I introduce them to physical ideas much earlier than I would a kid at the same level and sometimes they CAN do them!
@betohale 2 ай бұрын
This is wonderful! Where can I get the PDF?
@CelloRefinery 2 ай бұрын
Go here cellochaplin.wixsite.com/cellorefinery/leftarm-refinery
@Bulletmasterrighteous. 3 ай бұрын
Meditation massent by thais please
@CelloRefinery 2 ай бұрын
Hi - there are some arrangements for cello of the Meditation from Thais by Massenet, but I don't understand what your request is here. Can you ask a question with more details? Thanks!
@Bulletmasterrighteous. 2 ай бұрын
@CelloRefinery can you please play meditation massent by thais can you make a video of playing it
@CelloRefinery 2 ай бұрын
@Bulletmasterrighteous. It's not a cello piece, really, so it's not something I have ever played. Do you mean like a teaching video where I explain how to learn it? I don't think I would want to make a performance video without piano.
@Bulletmasterrighteous. 2 ай бұрын
@@CelloRefinery please
@CelloRefinery 2 ай бұрын
It is so sweet that you want me to play this piece - I really appreciate it. I notice on your own youtube channel that you have other people (violinists mostly) playing this piece, so it must be something you really like. I am going to respectfully decline to add to your collection, however, because 1) it's not a piece that I am interested in performing right now, 2) even a professional has to practice before they record something, and I don't have extra practice time, 3) I don't do performances of repertoire that require piano without the piano, and I don't have a piano where I am right now. There seem to be quite a few performances on youtube of cellists playing the piece, though, so I hope you can find some that you like. Good luck!
@lakeninevah 3 ай бұрын
Even though I have learned the first Suite, I need to apply this rule of thumb!
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
It's really hard to pick a tempo that works for an entire piece; we all go too fast! This little trick is pretty good to remind you.
@lakeninevah 3 ай бұрын
Wonderful advice! Keep going….with EVERYTHING
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
And just s-l-o-w things down to make them manageable. You'll actually feel more positive about your playing when you can get through something without a stop.
@fingerhorn4 3 ай бұрын
I really don't see the point in this. There is nothing wrong with using open position in scales, especially when they are smoother, more likely to be perfectly in tune, and save unnecessary stretching. I get that some scales need to have flexible fingering and for artistic reasons might be better occasionally with no open strings, but this is rare. As you demonstrated, it is much more difficult to keep things in tune when you impose awkward fingerings on yourself.
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
I agree that many scales become more difficult with these fingerings, and I absolutely do NOT use the universal fingering except when you can't use open strings (scales in 4 or more sharps or flats). But sometimes in repertoire you have to do a passage that lands somewhere odd up in a position, and need fingering patterns to get yourself there. I find that the main use of this one-size-fits-all approach to fingering is for students who have to memorize all the scales for auditions. Some orchestras do a cold call for scales - at the audition they say "play an Ab major scale." If you are really proficient with the universal fingering, you don't have to do the math to figure out that you MUST use universal fingering for that scale, and you don't even have to know the key signature. Just play the pattern. Some teachers actually teach scales this way, without the notes, just the fingering pattern. (I don't)
@joshuakane6047 2 ай бұрын
Do note auditions, exams, and technical assessments require no open strings as playing in higher positions is expected. 1st position is rudimentary. It is also awesome to play more on certain strings of your cello. My G on my C strings sounds so much more satisfying to play than an open G in various passages from the pieces I’ve played.
@CelloRefinery 2 ай бұрын
@@joshuakane6047 Totally agree! And actually, advanced violinists are expected to play scales up in positions and not start in first position. This kind of fingering basically achieves that. And, as to your point, there is a kind of unspoken cello goal of being able to play any note anywhere with any finger on the instrument, and here's one of the ones you develop that freedom.
@janettebailey7771 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Diane❤️. I was hoping you would do a video on the Sautille. I have been struggling with 2nd Movement of Elgar’s Concerto. I can do the stroke but find it really hard to keep it going and also get my lefthand in sync. 😅
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
Hi Jan! Getting the left hand to sync with right is really tricky in that piece since it's all off the beat. The "golden rule" of fast separate notes is to follow the bow. So whatever is going on with the left hand, let the bow be in charge since it's more rhythmic. And I'm sure you're doing lots of metronome work - it's good to do a tight little detache stroke and then gradually try to get it to bounce, working up speed a bit as you go. Good luck!
@janettebailey7771 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Diane for your help, I think I was taught the lefthand leads , maybe that’s why I have been struggling so much. ❤️
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
@@janettebailey7771 It's never one-size-fits-all, but for that movement, with so much of the left hand moving after the beat, I find it much more stable to get a sense of every 4 sixteenth notes from the bow. Of course, there might be times where the bow has to give the left hand some time to move (like big jumps) but in general for most running passages my mantra is to make sure the bow is steady. Then if you drop a note here or there, it's hard to even notice!
@janettebailey7771 3 ай бұрын
@@CelloRefinery thank you so much Diane.
@senfglas5707 3 ай бұрын
Best explanation I could find!
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
It's such a hard stroke to do. I wasn't even sure what I was saying would all make sense, so I'm glad it does!!
@Bob_Morrow 3 ай бұрын
@@CelloRefinery Diane - Your explanation was really clear. As an aging adult learner I will probably never encounter a need for the sautille stroke it but your breakdown of how to approach sautille was very instructive to understanding my simpler bow work.
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
@@Bob_Morrow Yes, and I do think that there's a lot of value in working on things that aren't quite accessible all the way for you at this stage. But any time you work on controlling the bow in some way, you are working on controlling the parts of your hand and arm that need to work together, so it's all good training. And there's a lot in this video about understanding spiccato as well.
@patriciasanchezwebb 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise. I love that you throughly explain the physics (the why) instead of merely the how of the technique. 💖💕
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you appreciate it! I agree that it makes the information more concrete when the "why" is there.
@spinozareader 3 ай бұрын
Your cello rings so beautifully!
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, and that's not even in a very resonant room!
@spinozareader 3 ай бұрын
@@CelloRefinery I'm in a Facebook group of which you're also a member. Lots of wonderful people in the group (no surprise there). I'm a rank amateur, but I so enjoy the learning shared there. :)
@lindabarcelo5952 3 ай бұрын
I'm finally doing this as an adult somewhat advanced cello player where previous teachers were rather easy on me as far as structure on counting. So Hey, I'm trying to conquer this thing now! Finally! ❤
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
Good for you - counting can be hard! Just keep at it; do simple things. Maybe also things like actually counting while you just listen to a piece, not even play. And have it be a priority when you first learn something to do the rhythms correctly from the start!
@weiderhsu 3 ай бұрын
I have this problem also. Found a lot of violin videos talking about this. ex. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaqWgpVnacerabs . I do believe that I use too much finger power on bow especially when changing bow direction. hope to fix this issue with your tips...
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
It usually takes a while to solve this kind of problem - it's not a simple answer. Usually in one thing (thumb, for example) is tight, then many things are tight and they all need to loosen up. Good luck!
@Valdir1981 3 ай бұрын
Great tip
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
It can take some getting used to, but I am actually more secure shifting there then 4th position, unless I have to be in 4th.
@marichristian 3 ай бұрын
I love the sound of harmonics on the cello. So pure. But it take a special touch to really hear them vibrate.
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
I agree. It actually also a bit depends upon the quality of the cello - some cellos just don't ring them out very well.
@MsCellobass 3 ай бұрын
I have what they call a cello chair and it is expensive. The legs are adjustable for height and tilt of the chair. I use it everyday.
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
I applaud you for getting that. I haven't ever gone into that expense because my dining chairs are terrific, and for taking something with me the folding padded bench is the right height, so I have 2 of those.
@brendamann6106 3 ай бұрын
Theres a tilt to side to side but also one can rotate a bit. I am small, small arthritic bent hands and arms. If I move and balance right I can play at the tip much more easily.
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
I just discussed that with a student this week, who has short arms and was struggling to make sound with long bows. When she tilts/rotates the cello she can pull the bow more sideways on the A string, and I'm guessing that works for you, too!
@ireneortizleal2217 4 ай бұрын
I can't find the pdf, someone help?
@CelloRefinery 3 ай бұрын
Someone else had this problem recently; I need to make the links more obvious. Here's the page where the pdfs live: cellochaplin.wixsite.com/cellorefinery/leftarm-refinery
@ireneortizleal2217 3 ай бұрын
@@CelloRefinery thank you so much, for the video and for your reply!
@sowhat2567 4 ай бұрын
I just love you period
@CelloRefinery 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I love teaching - let me know if you have any requests for topics.
@laurencevamvadelis1699 4 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for this sharing. I really enjoyed these pieces, which are originals and inspiring! Thanks a lot!!!
@CelloRefinery 4 ай бұрын
It's truly amazing how much good solo rep there is in the world that is almost totally unknown. I am starting work on my next 2 programs, and again they are all fabulous! Glad you liked it, and thanks for listening!
@trevorweir1278 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for presenting this tip. I had that exact question.
@CelloRefinery 4 ай бұрын
Everyone is a bit different about how much they need or want to tilt. My whole technique is built around tilting for ease of playing and power (but I'm a slight person, so I have to have really good balance in order to produce a big sound).
@marxeterno 4 ай бұрын
Thank you❤😊
@CelloRefinery 4 ай бұрын
It's important to mix up how we go through music, otherwise we get into a slump!