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@SStudiosCO
@SStudiosCO Сағат бұрын
I will definitely forward this video to people who need to see this!
@scenixe3882
@scenixe3882 6 сағат бұрын
but wasn't it proven that the MCI died first and charlie(puppet) died last?
@UnwitheredTruth
@UnwitheredTruth 5 сағат бұрын
Right now there's more evidence to say Charlie died first, but the Help Wanted 2 Grave order is the only one that suggests otherwise. I saw an interesting theory on reddit which says the grave order actually lines up with the Happiest Day minigames in FNAF 3. Even if that's not the case, the Puppet is also related to 1983 even in Help Wanted 2 - so rn it's still up for debate. Charlie dying last would make a lot less sense as far as I can tell.
@photonsOrigin
@photonsOrigin 7 сағат бұрын
Nobody else but you is wrong
@UnwitheredTruth
@UnwitheredTruth 6 сағат бұрын
Do you mean everyone else is correct? Cause idk how that's possible considering everyone else has conflicting opinions with each other 😂
@SpeeedYak
@SpeeedYak 10 сағат бұрын
Honestly, whole theory aside, the ending portion is perfect for describing the timeline so concisely. Short, sweet, and logical.
@ne3333t
@ne3333t 10 сағат бұрын
Nice! Not much else to say lol.
@divhine775
@divhine775 11 сағат бұрын
This is just completely wrong and the fnaf 1 date is wrong
@slimeinabox
@slimeinabox 14 сағат бұрын
The real question is; why i micheal barefoot in this game?
@sadplatinum6786
@sadplatinum6786 18 сағат бұрын
Personally I think you are inside the Golden Freddy suit, as I believe that is the springlock failure suit that retired them. The reason Golden Freddy is always slouched over is that he has no endoskeleton as he was a suit that collapsed around a human body, and once the body was taken out to retire the suit, there was no reason for there to be an endoskeleton placed inside. His strange paranormal nature is due to more than one soul being tied to that suit unlike the other animatronics. I can account for four potential souls, the Bite of 83 kid the employee who wore the suit afterwards, the sixth missing child that law enforcement could never link to the MCI, and maybe even the Bite of 87 victim, which if we go back to the theme of five souls becoming one, would make the player the fifth soul Golden Freddy needs to be complete without an endoskeleton.
@yodxxx1
@yodxxx1 19 сағат бұрын
"The timeline is simple" 34 minute long video xD
@KirbyFan-h9y
@KirbyFan-h9y 19 сағат бұрын
You made it on game theory good jobs
@UnwitheredTruth
@UnwitheredTruth 17 сағат бұрын
I can't believe it honestly 😅 thanks
@YaGirlAshleyy
@YaGirlAshleyy 21 сағат бұрын
i absolutely cant believe that you have only 3 videos on your channel, the quality is INSANE
@mediocrecontent2449
@mediocrecontent2449 22 сағат бұрын
One thing I wanted to add! Breaking down the quote at 7:30, I believe you come to the right conclusion, however I think there might be another interpretation to the quote. Saying the suits were never used, at least the way they were intended implies that they were still used. I believe that the suit had a springlock failure, however it could have still been used as an animatronic’s frame during the entire span of Circus Baby’s Pizzeria lifetime.
@SypherKyaeon
@SypherKyaeon 22 сағат бұрын
Honestly, the way Scott does FNAF reminds me, more than anything, of a DM/GM. Especially the way he clarifies things when players ask, even if not in the clearest manner, and brings back old plot threads/characters people seemed to like or got confused by. That sort of responsiveness you don't get from traditional media or even most games. Also, as someone who has run games, I sympathize with throwaway lines that spiral into monsters and making things up by the seat of your pants. Neither are bad things, that's what makes it fun. The idea of Scott as storyteller is the reason I really like MatPat's last big multi-part timeline. It may not have been 100% accurate, but it was a fun story to sit back and listen to.
@UnwitheredTruth
@UnwitheredTruth 17 сағат бұрын
I'm actuality delighted you pointed this out! I've been running D&D games for about four years now and I ALWAYS use it as reference for when I'm analysing FNAF. I completely agree that Scott is like a DM, and FNAF is his runaway campaign that he has somewhat planned bit by bit, but the influence of his players (the community) has certainly shaped the story over the years.
@SypherKyaeon
@SypherKyaeon 17 сағат бұрын
@UnwitheredTruth Along with a healthy dose of trolling. Sometimes, you just gotta let the players know who the demented mind running the show is.
@pedr00hs19
@pedr00hs19 22 сағат бұрын
good theory man
@IronVigilante451
@IronVigilante451 23 сағат бұрын
Oh man...
@sombreludens5040
@sombreludens5040 Күн бұрын
Congrats on making it to the Game Theory video ( or getting shout out I should say), you truly deserved it
@UnwitheredTruth
@UnwitheredTruth 17 сағат бұрын
I just saw it there myself I'm absolutely floored it's so cool 😅 thanks!!
@agentboi4794
@agentboi4794 Күн бұрын
YOU GOT MENTIONED IN GAME THEORY
@UnwitheredTruth
@UnwitheredTruth 17 сағат бұрын
I KNOW IT'S CRAZY I'M SO PUMPED ABOUT IT!
@sgandrf
@sgandrf Күн бұрын
This raises a certain question: How did Will figure out the souls could possess the machines in the GAMES timeline? In the books, it was because of the accident involving Baby, but at this point, he didn't know about the whole haunting thing. And Baby wasn't originally programmed to kidnap children. In the games however, I thought the Funtime Animatronics (including Baby) were built specifically to kidnap children and make tests on the concept of haunting. But then, what led Will to gain knowledge of haunting in the first place? What gave him the idea of the Funtimes? If I'm basing off your timeline, it couldn't have been the MCI (since it takes place afterward, and not prior to it like in the books). Is Charlotte NOT part of the MCI? Or did he figure this from his youngest son incident? I'm a little confused about all that
@idioticbuffoon8960
@idioticbuffoon8960 Күн бұрын
18:13 Actually Micheal survives because he's just that guy, no remnant needed.
@SnakeJuice
@SnakeJuice Күн бұрын
I haven't heard about FNAF Lore since the first one came out. So I don't understand any of this lol
@sgandrf
@sgandrf Күн бұрын
Oh boy, have you played the other games OTHER than FNaF1?
@UnwitheredTruth
@UnwitheredTruth 17 сағат бұрын
Oh boy, you've missed... So much. But hey, if you're still interested in the series, that means you've just got a boat load of stuff to enjoy!
@VianBrahmbhatt-h4u
@VianBrahmbhatt-h4u Күн бұрын
@_V.Va_
@_V.Va_ Күн бұрын
Am I deaf or was there too much reverb to understand Baby?
@-HappyCat-
@-HappyCat- Күн бұрын
It's Henry who locks him in because phone guy (I'm pretty sure it's FNAF 2 phone guy but maybe it's FNAF 3) says that the higher ups (in this case Henry) want to seal off those rooms and never mention it to anyone. We also don't know if ghosts can physically interact with objects so he couldn't have been locked in by them
@Mighty_Dork
@Mighty_Dork Күн бұрын
27:43 FNAF 3 is commonly believed to have taken place around the in game year 2023. The teasers said "30 years later". Your timeline doesn't seem to apply the 30 years
@sgandrf
@sgandrf Күн бұрын
You're likely correct, Tho we have to remember Scott absolutely sucks at maths
@Mighty_Dork
@Mighty_Dork Күн бұрын
I'd agree on many things with you but the Odor thing must mean Mike, it's too perfect, including as a storytelling theme. He's our protagonist for the first 3 games, then his little brother, then Mike again for the rest of the original series (Sister Location and Simulator)
@michaelthesanta3610
@michaelthesanta3610 Күн бұрын
This could just be a retcon, but didn't phone guy say they sang the same songs for twenty years? I'm pretty sure that would place FNAF 1 somewhere in the 2000s, unless there happened to be locations before the events of four.
@PuroKuro
@PuroKuro Күн бұрын
So was matpat right?
@prizmic3448
@prizmic3448 Күн бұрын
This is a really good theory vid that actually made me like the story a lot more. Major props for the reference to the way Charlie cries as she's outside in the rain during Take Cake to the Children.
@hatchanegg5862
@hatchanegg5862 Күн бұрын
I thought that FNAF 1 and 2’s placement in the time line came from the price of minimum wage at the time of those years.
@aquatic-protogen
@aquatic-protogen Күн бұрын
Though I am sad that the 1985 location didn't had the unwithereds. I guess I'll accept they were built in 1987 with the new tech finished them. But saw how ugly they looked and put them in parts and service.
@YalitoMelito
@YalitoMelito Күн бұрын
I think I found something. The exact date of the carnival fire was a lunar eclipse, as hinted in HW2, which gives us a very close range of dates among 1970 and 1985, specially there was a TOTAL eclipse on FALL 1979 (SOTM year).
@cowcat8124
@cowcat8124 Күн бұрын
Good editing 👍
@FluffycatHT4
@FluffycatHT4 Күн бұрын
5:00 so fredbear already had kid in him??
@sgandrf
@sgandrf Күн бұрын
What does it have to do with a kid? At the timestamp you marked, he's just explaining how dangerous the springlocks are
@lookathisdood8163
@lookathisdood8163 2 күн бұрын
This theory makes so much sense when you consider the games and their lore. Minigames that might exist in reality but somehow accessed through ways you shouldn't be able to(see FNAF3 and PIZZA SIM), outcomes that you shouldn't even be able to do in canon(SISTER LOCATION), and how the world itself is starting to glitch(SECURITY BREACH RUIN)... The book itself is a representation of that same theme. It might have been unintentional, but it still carries that same ideas as the other games have!
@Ghost56-e9e
@Ghost56-e9e 2 күн бұрын
So I’m guessing correctly of 3 them was a mistake Matt Pat thought but you thought of 1 & 2 are 1 a mistake 2 on purpose because Charlotte and Elizabeth was test
@UnwitheredTruth
@UnwitheredTruth 2 күн бұрын
I'd say that Elizabeth was a mistake because she wasn't the intended victim, but that Baby was definitely intended to kill/capture a child, just not Liz.
@sgandrf
@sgandrf Күн бұрын
@@UnwitheredTruth I know I commented this on the video, but this particular point confused me a little. This raises the question: How did Will figure out the souls could possess the machines in GAMES timeline? In the books, it was because of the accident involving Baby, but at this point, he didn't know about the whole haunting thing. And Baby wasn't originally programmed to kidnap children. In the games however, I thought the Funtime Animatronics (including Baby) were built specifically to kidnap children and make tests on the concept of haunting. But then, what led Will to gain knowledge of haunting in the first place? What gave him the idea of the Funtimes? If I'm basing off your timeline, it couldn't have been the MCI (since it takes place afterward, and not prior to it like in the books). Is Charlotte NOT part of the MCI? Or did he figure this from his youngest son incident? I'm a little confused about all that
@Bloody_sak
@Bloody_sak 2 күн бұрын
23:54 FINALLY 😔 I GOT ANNOYED
@Anthony-nr5tj
@Anthony-nr5tj 2 күн бұрын
It was Fritz first day on the job so him having a case made on him makes zero sense unless he did something that could spell trouble for Fazbear entertainment if known.
@MysticalHeart
@MysticalHeart 2 күн бұрын
This is a great video, and a good theory. I just have one problem with the whole "Draft" thing. For context, I have read many and tried to write a few of these "Choose Your Own Adventure" Gamebooks. And with that comes an understanding that the main character will feel the same emotions at different points of the story "tree". What you say is two different drafts of the same paragraph on two different pages, is just a part of how these books are written. They take place in two different timelines, to two different versions of the same player. Think Spider-Man: the one constant is Uncle Ben's death... but the timing, location and method is different in each rendition. It's that idea, but with the player character's thoughts and feelings. Other than that, everything seems to check out. I would've placed it 1989-1990 (just to be safe), but as a casual fan of the theories and franchise, it does fit, even with that mistake about the daughter... although that could be down to another timeline, who can really say?
@Anthony-nr5tj
@Anthony-nr5tj 2 күн бұрын
the way Baby says the line makes it seem like someone used the suit in a way that isn't intended like say to lure kids away to be killed. if it was supposed to mean that someone wore it, and it sent into animatronic mode while worn then she said the line poorly.
@bigsmoke5884
@bigsmoke5884 2 күн бұрын
Wait what about what phone guy says on night 6? He mentions someone used a spare yellow suit in the back and because he did none of the animatronics were acting right,wasn't that supposed to be afton in disguise bring springlocked in 1987?
@UnwitheredTruth
@UnwitheredTruth 2 күн бұрын
That was a message about somebody committing murders at the FNAF 2 location, as seen in the SAVE THEM minigame. Often referred to as the Dead Children's Incident (DCI). The minigame where Afton is Springlocked comes from the FNAF 1 location, so not the same building as was being used in 1987.
@SHDW-nf2ki
@SHDW-nf2ki 2 күн бұрын
fnaf's timeline being so utterly messed up is the clear proof that scot is not a perfect storytelling machine
@cubegrand
@cubegrand 2 күн бұрын
I thought it was obvious that springtrap got spring locked after FNAF 1 because he had to have dismantled the animatronics
@AFloppaGodOfficial
@AFloppaGodOfficial 2 күн бұрын
I think Fnaf one takes after 1983 and before 1987
@lauziyi5728
@lauziyi5728 2 күн бұрын
How does Phone Guy talk about The Bite of ‘87 in FNAF 1 if it hasn’t happened yet? Besides, the Toy Animatronics are said to be able to move around during the day while in FNAF 1, they said they USED to move around until the Bite. I don’t think the canon info adds up to your conclusion, unless you’re joking or have no idea about the lore, in which I can forgive that statement you came up with.
@b43t
@b43t 2 күн бұрын
EX BALLERINA HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF COPPELIA'S NAME Coppelia is a ballet about a doll who a man falls in love with because she is so lifelike. His lover dresses as the doll to pretend she's come to life and rejected him in order to save him from the doll maker's wrath
@Dumelax
@Dumelax 2 күн бұрын
The “Theory complete” by the end caught me off guard 😂 Great stuff man! Thanks for the video :)