Larry McCormick

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@bangalong Ай бұрын

Basically, it's Drum and Bugle Corps vs. Drum Corps. Once it went 3 valves it pretty much became a trumpet vs. bugle. Downing instruments killed it too. If you can't carry it, don't use it. That was the start of the downfall (1980).

@phillipwright-n5l Ай бұрын

Thanks, Larry!

@nostalgia6578 Ай бұрын

I'm gonna go on a limb here: I marched drum corps in three eras - 1960s, 1990s, and 2000s. Creativity and crowd appeal had to progress and evolve, but to an extent where the roots of drum corps would never be erased. DCI has allowed some things that I have a problem with, and they are guitars, some brass instruments that belong in concert band or orchestra, and string instruments. Now a "corps style" BOA field band can get away with it, but a drum corps should be closer to its roots and have bell front brass (no sousaphones) and percussion, marching and the "pit". Not taking anything away from the teenagers and college students who perform in such marching arts, but I think that drum corps should stay closer to its roots. VFW and American Legion was still stuck in the psuedo-military 1940s and 1950s, and as a senior citizen now, even I don't want that, sorry!

@jackiesavignanofollett8823 Ай бұрын

What kid can afford drum corps today

@jackiesavignanofollett8823 Ай бұрын

Drum corp took kids off the streets, taught them to play an instrument and gave them family they probably needed. Love my years in drum corps.

@eclecticmn4838 Ай бұрын

I remember Larry helping out teaching Madison Scouts long go.

@eclecticmn4838 Ай бұрын

I don't recall other corps about this But seeing this reminded me about troopers. Because of the hats and all hair done up tight you could not tell boys from girls in the horn line and drums until they turned around. Girls usually have wider hips.

@garys.674 2 ай бұрын

I remember when the Boston Crusaders marched with the first double base and a golk. It was something. They made them get rid of the golk.

@yesorlando05 2 ай бұрын

This is great stuff. What year was this filmed? Looks like 1973/74-ish.

@yesorlando05 2 ай бұрын

I really miss these days, especially 1980's/90's. That was DCI's Golden era in my opinion in terms of entertainment value, quality of shows, commitment to the kids/fans/community, and respecting the balance of tradition and inovation. Because of the lack of most of these aspects, I haven't attended a DCI since 2005. Thanks for posting this. I truly enjoyed it.

@anthonymarsh4832 2 ай бұрын

Of particular interest the statement by ROYER "Anybody can try out". 'CUOTHE THE RAVEN NEVERMORE"

@robparry-n7w 2 ай бұрын

Drum corps golden age was the 1980's. Today , nothing like Santa Clara '74 , Madison '75 , Bridgmen '79 , Blue Devils '80 , Garfield '83.... nothing like it today. Gail Royer , Jerry Seawright ,and other directors always made it an activity about the kids and helping them get involved. Now it seems to be entertainment and business instead of a youth activity. So sad.

@marial8235 3 ай бұрын

DCI today is marching band. They march in parades in band formation, band culture, band instruments, band costumes, band directors. Sad how our once great activity was hijacked and destroyed.😢

@RCPercussion 2 ай бұрын

What's wrong with marching in parades in band formatuon, band culture, band instruments, and band directors? It only makes drum corps more popular, open to the public, and accessible to teens who want to march drum corps but want to stick with their instrument and take their skills to the next level! (Except for woodwinds)

@marial8235 2 ай бұрын

@ Drum Corps is not band. It is a distinct activity with its own traditions. Band is band. Drum corps is drum corps. DCI needs to relearn that concept.

@ardyjeen6144 3 ай бұрын

A freaking cliff hanger?! Rude! Lmbo! Pray up and God bless.

@Llyrin 3 ай бұрын

Now wait a minute. DCI was ALWAYS better than DCA, because the juniors were able to practice more than the seniors. We had jobs and once-a-week practice. Shaun: Baltimore Yankee-Rebels, 75-76 (Truman was our horn instructor, but he was only a warrant officer back then).

@leonply 4 ай бұрын

Before DCI, which now costs thousands and thousands of dollars each year for ONE corps member to participate, and a show which costs more than one million dollars to produce, it was a different time. Before the inception of DCI, there was practically a Drum and Bugle Corps for almost every city and town across America, where every single young person could join a corps, learn about playing music, being in a color guard, what military precision, marching and maneuvering was all about, and real, honest-to-God pride in a job well done after hours of practice. Now, there are less than 75 corps in the nation.

@Kieran.percussion 3 ай бұрын

I do miss that in principle

@thomasottey854 4 ай бұрын

I was in the Invaders from Norristown Pa. We were from the VFW post 1804 and Learned a lot from that wonderful experience. Was a member from 1954 until it was disbanded in about 1962 Too man aged out at 18. Went to Nationals In Miami in 1957 and also Nationals in New York city in 1959. I sure miss all of the people who worked so hard for us.

@MrErlybyrd 4 ай бұрын

70`s drum corps was so much better than the crap they put on the field today...HANDS DOWN

@yesorlando05 2 ай бұрын

100% agree. The field is filled with so many props and crap that it totally clutters the field of vision for the fans and the drills can't flow properly. The drumlines are no longer precision oriented. The crab walks, head bobbing, and unnecessary movements look sloppy. The sounds of the drums are not clean. Music is no longer entertaining, seeking to add as many notes as possible to appease judges at the expense of entertaining fans. The electronics/singing/recitations is the icing on the cake of totally cheapening our once-elite activity. Please don't take me wrong. The kids today are enormously talented, just as we were back in the day (I was in Spirit of Atlanta 79-84, my wife 27th Lancers 78-83). They do an incredible job with what they're given. But all of the things mentioned above in addition to corps spending money like sailors to where fees are out of reach to so many/fewer corps in the country and placating to judges at the expense of the fans has led me to not attend a DCI show since 2005.

@lindaeferraro 4 ай бұрын

Hey Larry, I've enjoyed watching your videos of drum corps history. My husband, Frank Ferraro, was the music director of the West Reading Police Cadets, and then the Reading Buccaneers. The gentleman in this video's name sounds so familiar. We may have met him at one of the DCA weekends. Was your dad, Frank McCormick? That name sounds so familiar to me. Thank you for sharing the history of drum corps.

@larrymccormickvideos 4 ай бұрын

@@lindaeferraro Thanks for our comment…Sorry I have no relation to Frank McCormikck

@thomcarr7021 4 ай бұрын

I was in drum corps "64 -'67. It was controlled in a way by the VFW. I lost interest and never saw another performance until 2016. I had no idea what I was in for. To see 200 participants, all the pageantry and the music capabilities this had grown into put me in a state of shock. I just couldn't believe it all. The last corps was the Carolina Crown. I just never saw anything like it. It was overwhelming. I didn't want their show to end.

@marionwise973 5 ай бұрын

Keep in mind the reason that Drum and Bugle Corps is the way it is today is because of these people. They achieved near perfection by the 1980s and the activity had to go somewhere. It's not just that times change the activity pushed itself to achieve even greater goals. Just like any sport or art, Drum Corps had to progress- especially since it is both! Thanks for posting this video. It's great to see and hear the history of the activity.

@americanspirit8932 4 ай бұрын

@@marionwise973 I agree and disagree Perry you don't see football or baseball players running around dancing, and wearing costumes and makeup . These sports are still what they were come for the last 50+ years. It's called tradition, safety rules have changed a bit. But the games themselves are pretty much the same . Drum and bugle c o r p s, was originally started as a youth program. That one does not exist at all . Today the members are generally College, young men and women Karma working on music, degrees activity is no longer available to the average, young boy or girl. Plus the, dues, are through the roof . What these marching bands are doing is great, but it is not a drum and bugle c o r p s.

@marionwise973 5 ай бұрын

I have Bill's drum in my band room. It looks to be the one in this video. The sticks as well. Thanks for posting this Gem!

@WA2SVM 5 ай бұрын

Many years ago when I first watched this, I freaked out when I saw my name in the credits, but this version chopped the credits off :(

@chrismaertzweiler4369 5 ай бұрын

Sorry to say that I cannot watch Drum Corp today soil my memories of my youth.

@MatthewDenaro 3 ай бұрын

DCI bills itself as "America's Marching Music". Sadly, there is very little marching and almost no music. SMH.

@yesorlando05 2 ай бұрын

@@MatthewDenaro 100% agree. The field is filled with so many props and crap that it totally clutters the field of vision for the fans and the drills can't flow properly. The drumlines are no longer precision oriented. The crab walks, head bobbing, and unnecessary movements look sloppy. The sounds of the drums are not clean. Music is no longer entertaining, seeking to add as many notes as possible to appease judges at the expense of entertaining fans. The electronics/singing/recitations is the icing on the cake of totally cheapening our once-elite activity. Please don't take me wrong. The kids today are enormously talented, just as we were back in the day (I was in Spirit of Atlanta 79-84, my wife 27th Lancers 78-83). They do an incredible job with what they're given. But all of the things mentioned above in addition to corps spending money like sailors to where fees are out of reach to so many/fewer corps in the country and placating to judges at the expense of the fans has led me to not attend a DCI show since 2005.

@knarf714sc4 Ай бұрын

For real a show cost an arm and a leg and you still have to finance it

@bryancook3233 5 ай бұрын

Hey Larry.

@SouthTewksburyMA 5 ай бұрын

Really great video, thank you so much for sharing!

@jamesmccaughey5604 5 ай бұрын

'74 SCV and a Stan Kenton interview! Great post. ❤️

@jeffreypresley3008 5 ай бұрын

Young Legend in the making, Gail Royer as a PUPPY! I joined the Blue Devils in 1978 having not gone to a Drum Corps show; but THIS SHOW was what reeled me in. I listened to SCV, Cadets, Crusader, Blue Stars, North Star, Cavaliers, Phantom, and Blue Devils on vinyl over and over and over, though, imagining myself on the field in the SCV ensemble. The Homs were rough hewn and tone quality beasts, but the brilliance and power that kids could squeeze from them was amazing. Electrifying and unique sound, now, gone.

@youdaman5069 5 ай бұрын

I loved the ‘70s drum corps!

@patrickpaluga3724 5 ай бұрын

Lt. Col Truman Crawford was a truly great man and a pioneer in drum corps. He believed in tradition and his passing is a huge loss. Unfortunately we suffered a second loss with the establishment of DCI. It's no Drum and Bugle Corps, but what I refer to as twinky bands.

@charlesgerlach7059 5 ай бұрын

this is so cool and great history, l started with a class c corp the Continentals of Norwood Mass in 68, winter of 70 they folded and the 21st lancers started up as a feeder corp to 27th, marched with 21st till 77 when they folded and i joined the Boston Crusaders for the 78 and 79 season, my age out.. created a work ethic, goals, how to give it your alll and be the best you can be and life long familiy and friends

@denvermarlin1701 5 ай бұрын

I like it better than dance!!!

@xXEvangelXx 5 ай бұрын

"I didn't think I had any particular talents..." Now these days you have to not only be essentially a musical prodigy to march anywhere, you also have to be rich. $4000-6000 for tour fees alone not including the other myriad expenses is absolutely ridiculous. That's a full semesters worth of tuition at a cheap CSU here in California for what is now an incredibly niche, insular activity.

@americanspirit8932 5 ай бұрын

In my opinion, DCI is the reason for the demise of what was one of the greatest youth activities in North America they've turned it into a marching band competition, superimposed on a three-ring circus. Former member of the Long Island sunrise in 1964 through 1968. May they all rest in peace😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤😢😮

@Spacerockrider72755ibmb 6 ай бұрын

Back to old school😮 heck old school was like the 1st day of school,Who knew what to expect🤔 drum corp has become some of the greatest shows on earth🙂

@drbcrb 6 ай бұрын

I recall seeing this sometime early high school. Went on to march corps.

@holton345 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the share and the TREMENDOUS stroll down Memory Lane. Wonderful stuff from a more simple and more innocent time.

@k_zildjian4460 6 ай бұрын

"Change is inevitable, but growth is optional" - John C. Maxwell I'm not so stuck in the past that I am against change. I can live with DCI evolving, in fact I would expect it to. But not all change is "good". Drum corps, once an activity for the masses, has morphed into an outdoor version of WGI that actively excludes kids who can't afford the ridiculous costs. The end result is an ever-shrinking group of well-off (albeit every talented) kids that get to participate. I marched drum corps in the 80's and it changed my life forever. If DCI had been then like it is today, I would not have been able to afford it. DCI will never be like it used to be (not necessarily a bad thing) but if it does not make serious efforts to widen its tent so that ALL have the opportunity to participate it will continue to contract and eventually die.

@Mark-sj3xb 4 ай бұрын

Drum Corps originally was a local civic activity. Most participants were not even trained musicians. You would sign up and they would give you a bugle and teach you to play it.

@marktillotson5426 6 ай бұрын

look at the ages of the students in Vanguard in 73/74 NOW look at the students in TODAYS CORPS ..... I'm willing to bet todays average age is 20

@trap4dafu2k0fit 6 ай бұрын

Freemasonry has destroyed the activity. It’s a big club and you ain’t in it!

@mikeconklin1567 6 ай бұрын

I marched with BSGK from 1970-1972, (until we disbanded). Biggest thrill was 1970 VFW Nationals in Miami. We placed fourth. Casper Troopers placed first. What a let down.

@EdBecnel 6 ай бұрын

The musicianship is top notch but I DESPISE the frooty tooty costumes and gay looking antics. I miss the old corps… military precision and style.

@rcomo520 3 ай бұрын

Gay looking? Really??

@RCPercussion 2 ай бұрын

It's still about military precision and style. It's just that the instrumentation, looks, and overall sound have changed. They still strive for perfection

@marial8235 2 ай бұрын

@@RCPercussion It is a hot mess now. Dancing and prancing and emoting. Drum lines mincing around. I thought I’d never see the day…

@CorneliusB-z7i 6 ай бұрын

Drum corp today does not look like my experiences. I was fortunate to be a part of Blessed Sacrament. Great people and great times. Bobby Thompson

@mikeconklin1567 6 ай бұрын

I’m Mike Conklin. Marched with BSGK from 1970-1972, 2nd Barotone. John Demko was the real deal. Those were the Good Ole days.

@canadiensjoe Ай бұрын

I marched snare with St Pats from Jersey City from 56-66. Started in the “diaper corps”. Mr. Thompson was my instructor for 10 years. 12:50 My 2nd father. Joe Gannon

@CorneliusB-z7i 6 ай бұрын

Drum corp today does not look like my experiences. I was fortunate to be a part of Blessed Sacrament. Great people and great times.

@garys.674 2 ай бұрын

From Newark NJ.

@karylyon1132 6 ай бұрын

Why weren't the kilts involved in the founding of DCI?

@danielmacdonald4805 6 ай бұрын

I remember when my brother Kevin and I where listening to sweet George brown by Sprit of Atlant and my dad said Lieutenant Norman Prince played it better that was back in 1956 me and my brother just laughed

@americanspirit8932 6 ай бұрын

I was fortunate to compete against the Garfield Cadets the golden knights, and many other great drum and bugle Corps. I was a member of the Floyd Bennett golden eagles 1960 and 1961, also a member of the Long Island sunrises 1964 through 1968. John Dowling, and I started the American Spirit senior alumni drum and bugle Corps in 1992 in Tampa Bay Florida area. John darling is a person who developed, backsticking, still use today in all these marching bands. It was the only person in Drum Corps history that won four national championships in a single day. Individual snare, drum quartet, soprano, bugle, brass quartet. No other, person in the history of the activity has ever accomplished that. He was also a drum judge for many years and in instructor for many years. He arranged the Fanfare for the reading Buccaneers in their first public appearance. Roosevelt Stadium, preview what champions. May he rest in peace.

@americanspirit8932 6 ай бұрын

I have stated hundreds of times, DCI has turned the activity into a marching band competition, superimposed on a three-ring circus. Thank you the activity as far as, drum and bugle c o r p s, a r e concerned.. please call it what it really is it's a marching band. There's nothing wrong with marching bands, but it is definitely not a drum and bugle Corps.

@culversofgallatin3933 6 ай бұрын

There’s one caption head trophy at DCI that they just refuse to create, but the high caption award for “who destroyed DRUM CORPS” should be shared equally by George Hopkins, Wayne Downey, and the idiotic Boards of Directors who led many a fine corps straight into bankruptcy. It has never been easier to win the DCI trophy or to make finals and this very moment, and what do we have - crappy skits; faux artistry.

@rifle2563 6 ай бұрын

The previous generations, your peers, created this situation. Hopefully the new generations can bring it around.

@marial8235 2 ай бұрын

@@rifle2563 not likely. Headed in the wrong direction.

@first-namelast-name4198 6 ай бұрын

Today’s drum corps has devolved into a competition of who can play the most spastic collection of notes under the umbrella of some “genius” theatrics. They will play maybe two measures of something recognizable and then it mutates into something seizure-inducing. I was a huge drum corps fan in high school and would always go to shows. I went to a show last year and swore it would be my last. It’s just not as enjoyable as it used to be. I believe in the activity. But it has gone a direction that I think is unfortunate.

@EdBecnel 6 ай бұрын

I couldn’t agree with you more! I believe it has fallen prey to the LGBTQ+ nonsense which is disgusting to witness.

@dougbrown9574 2 ай бұрын

Well-put. There was a time when the music was paramount. Now the music is #5 or #6 in consideration. 13 minutes of technical exercises, while challenging, hold no interest for me. Yes, it takes tremendous chops to do what they do, but they have lost the "entertainment" factor.

@policeinnovationsllc1355 Ай бұрын

Well said. 2013 was my last show. Total connection lost. It did not “evolve” into anything.

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