Nature composts and regrows from fire and food. Humanity is not immune to nature's cycle no matter how clever the invention.

I wish you'd do these online conversations again, they've opened the world to me

Que vídeo maravilhoso! Que aula espetacular sobre mundoS, no plural do plural. Mundos não só possíveis mas existentes e presentes há muito tempo e ativamente ignorados e massacrados por um mundo onto-epistêmico hegemônico extrativista e "desanimador" de todos os outros mundos. Viva Marisol de la Cadena!

Had to take a pause halfway into this podcast and absorb the extraordinary framework of a narrative Federico is building up. An absolutely fascinating 'world-ing' experience!

sorry.... i know you don't want to hear any more, but this is three years old so probably nobody cares anymore about what i write here. But this idea of Perennial thought...ie Aldous Huxley..and Ken wilbur..etc. Really what seems to be emerging is that Carl Jung's conception of religion... which has been grossly misunderstood as an effort to create new religion was in fact the effort to explain why these mystical traditions are indeed so similar. Jung finally concluded more or less that religion is a deep seated psychological complex that manifests differently in various traditions but really is mirroring the evolution of the psyche both at the level of the individual and the collective. So this was his great realization in Answer to Job which i think will be the text where that very clearly pronounced and demonstrated that our conception of "God" is actually a reflection of our deeper self...and the evolution of God is reallly an evolution in our "Self"..ie what we call the God Image. This was further elaborated by other Jungian thinkers such as Edward Edinger. What God really is ...who knows.... but that's now what religion is about...it's really about the evolution of what our deeper self. What God really is is beyond the dark glass....we cannot see it.

closure: This sum up of 54...the idea of conflict. I think that this is a part of the process laid out in all the mythological accounts of the "end of time" ....the apocolypse.... things become more polarized... wars occur. it's pretty much a given. However, out of the tension of the poles (thesis and anti-thesis) comes the synthesis.... the trancendent perspective that in part reconciles the two polar positions but more importantly renders them moot because we move to a new perspective completely. This is what Carl Jung referred to as the Trancendent Function...but also it's something found in many thought systems including Platonism and a religious system called the "Law of Three" ... it's in Kabblah and other mystical systems.

Another thing that i thought about during this talk: What if we could educate an AI discretely in each of these past worlds... wouldn't it be fascinating to converse with someone from another "time".... if we could educate an AI in all say the Sumarian cuniform texts... or from the Middle Ages? . then we could therectically converse with a being from that time, no? Would it open up new insights to converse or would we be limited by our own linguistic constructs? Would that way of worlding come across in the AI's language?

Very very interesting... would like to see Frederico patch into that group of thinkers that i feel are forging ahead to this "new world".... including Bernardo Kastrup, Daniel Schmatchenberger, John Vervaeke, Iain McGuilchrist... Zak Stein... .these are, along with Frederico, to me, the inheritors of this Post Post modern emergent world.. and i think Federico has important things to add to this conversation. I love the idea of "re-worlding".... and this is has really fundamental linkages to another area of personal interest of mine, museology,... the French have a nice term "mettre en valeur" which gets at shifting of the phenomenological experience of an object (and it's cultural content) via specific physical treatments that help the gaze attend in a different way (to say it like McGuilchrist might say it). Duchamps urinal is perhaps a striking example. Put something on in a "sacred" space with a certain kind of light and it becomes something different phenomenologically...something symbolic rather than utilitarian. So this idea that you can reworld is something that museum curators regularly do in their work. Regarding the phenomenology of time (mn 16-17)..] It is felt as a "wall" or as Terrence McKenna put it "the approach of The Eschaton" It is a time of great chaos and apprehension as our categories are breaking down and blurring together and our assumptions no longer work in the same way. Thus, it is very difficult to think beyond that "wall"... we stand at a threshold but peer into the void. This is when it helps to understand mythology and history. It is the time when the artists come to fore and the religous...because it is a time of faith out of necessity, right? (Cue the Qnon conspiracy). However if we understand the larger arc of history, we can have reasonable faith that the apocalypse is not the end but only the "unveiling" of a new beginning of a new world. Very exciting. mn 22: Really makes me think about that movie "Arrival"....how the alien language was written in a circle... reflecting a different conception of time in the future. mn 35... About our creative latitude when we leave legacy for the post future: Rather than lie it is the purview of the "normative entrepreneur" to convey how norms should be perpetuated ....and the artist too of course. But we have a responsibility to draw conclusions about what went right and wrong...which isn't a lie but it isn't a faithful representation of the majority of the time...only the closing act perhaps. Also, what's also coming to mind here is this idea of the mystic Gurdieff ... he thought alot of encoding key cultural truths into dances and music because he thought of those things as a superior means of conveying important truths over time. He claimed that he learned this from a group called the Sarmoung a group of Tibetan monks somewhere in Tibet that referred to this sort of activity "The gathering of the honey"... i guess they were beekeepers. Gather the truth, transform it into durable cultural productions and encapsulate it for the future generations. Of course one could say that mythology does this because the myths that get kept and repeated are the ones that retain their immediacy and resonance...so mythology is subject to a sort of Darwinian process over long spans of time that ensures an aspect of antifragility.

Spectacular Thank you, be well, Geraldine

Thank you for this conversation ❤️

i am amazed by how this young and obviously very gifted scholar navigates subjects that are extremely hard to convey without making a huge word salad and eventually losing the audience. i was able to follow through without getting lost.

much love and respect two both of you from istanbul. amazing conversation.

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Is Michael Marder an American or Canadian citizen? I read he was born in Russia. Just curious. Does he speak Spanish? Where he currently teaches. There seems to be nothing online about where he grew up. He went to school in the U.S. first, and then Canada. According to Wikipedia.

This is so unapologetically caring and awakening. Thank you so much.

Excellent professor

What a great conversation! It widely opened my eyes to other ways of thinking about the self, the others, mother nature, the world in itself and the moral obligation and connection each of us has to the waters we belong to, or the waters we adopted or the waters that have adopted us all.

Another insufferable femcel.

The Woman responsible for abolishing the family and ending Western Civilisation as we know it will forever be known as Sophie "These Tweets are Protected" Lewis. 😂

This woman makes me feel like chopping my balls off. We're absolutely doomed as a society.

The fact that Federico Campagna so simply prophetize an "international" war or a Cold War that will seal the "end of the future" a year or so before the invasion to Ukraine!

S’il vous plait ne parlez pas d’homme lors ce que vous voulez dire les êtres humains en général: nous, les femmes, en avons marre d’être sous entendues. Merci bien

Wtf is wrong with you Antichrist wack jobs?

Feminist clown

I.know.now.why.we.drowned.women

Leave it to this kind of hyperwoke accedemic obscurantist to not only try and justify an unnecessary and dangerous medical condition, but to rationalize nonconsensually inflicting existence on sentient beings.

This was great! Thank you.

❤️

I want her education, I want her situation, I want her surface skin.

This is my favourite moment since joining to the internet in 2007

I cannot believe this channel <3

This is it

Chanter, c'est mesurer son territoire et le faire savoir aux lautres, leur faire ressentir. Projection reconnue aujourd'hui dans la technique du chanteur d'opéra avec une prise de possession scène et au-delà. Mentalisation du son hors de soi, définie par une visualisation des limites de l'espace, du territoire (je transporte ma voix au dernier rang du public ou je vais l'accrocher à l'arrière-scène). La fréquence sonore oscillant sur des notes plus longues d'un chant de merle "annonçant la pluie" plusieurs heures à l'avance, alors que rien ne le présageait à l'humain avec un soleil éclatant (lègende rurale?), ne serait-ce pas non plus une mesure de la pression atmosphérique (locale) et de l'ètendue de son territoire ? Mon père me racontant petit, que le merle manifestait sa joie de se débarasser bientôt de ses parasites, serait aussi une théorie interessante.... Chère Vinciane Despret, votre approche "Phonocene" claire du vivant me passionne.... Merci.

Thank you, I hope these talks will come back, I've learned so much from them.

I liked the plant!

"matrix of noise" is perfect

Interesting

"...suggest it [pet owning] is at the root of current environmental crisis" YOUR DOG MELTED THE ICECAPS HARAWAY!

Face it, every child deserves the mothering that they get. Some kids are just a whole lot easier to love than others. Doing away with the nuclear family, or supplementing it with the support of non-biological kin, isn't going to change that a bit. I LOVE the nuclear family, and I see no reason to upgrade it in the slightest. For most people, it works just fine.

Many blessings and thank you to CAConrad <3 Sweetest talk ever.

Excellent ! Thanks for recording and sharing this

wonderful.

Well this gives me a lot to think about, thank you for recording it and for making it available!

Thank you so much for having this talk online, this was truly fascinating

ah awesome!!!

For a new Life, some advice and concepts conducive to changing the system that has taken paths that lead to the precipice

Lewis is unable to express herself in everyday language and terminology; something the best scholars can do. Perhaps it is because she is reading out the talk, rather than speaking from the heart, but there is little warmth here. There is something sad and bitter about her too. I wonder if her theories are solely based on growing up in an unhappy, dysfunctional family. And she's never experienced being a mother, so what can she know of motherhood?

I like her talk but I was waiting for her to start talking about her experiences as a mother and it never came. Why does she feel entitled to talk about mothering and motherhood, having never gone through with it herself? Mothering an adult, as she made the comparison, is not the same as mothering a child. IT's a completely unique experience. It's like having a white person talk about being black. It's one thing to reference the experience but to build your entire career on it and write a book? To me it feels incredibly suspect

Uma maravilha essa palestra

Certified man-hater...