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@MicLessGamer
@MicLessGamer Күн бұрын
Mgsv is the greatest Game of all time!!
@aussiebullet
@aussiebullet Күн бұрын
According to Kojima, this verison of Ocelot is "different"
@baianinja8863
@baianinja8863 Күн бұрын
In MGS 3, Ocelot is shown to have inhuman aiming skills. But cutscene-wise, he always misses the shot or get his gun jammed when aiming at Snake. Yet, he seems to be genuinely trying to end Big Boss. I don't think this is simply good acting, but rather a failsafe. Ocelot hypnotized himself to not be able to shoot Snake. Also, he may sabotage his own gun before their encounters.
@Chonkems
@Chonkems 2 күн бұрын
Ocelot is one of the few good people in Metal Gear. He tries to do what's best in his eyes for years, but grows obsessed with Big Boss, leading to the Guns Of The Patriots Incident.
@Weneedaplague
@Weneedaplague 3 күн бұрын
I literally just started the game and with what little knowledge I have about MGS lore, I was wondering what ocelot's angle was. Now I know
@pluxultra5417
@pluxultra5417 3 күн бұрын
Venom snake is nonchalant basically
@classicsagat
@classicsagat 3 күн бұрын
He was filling a role which meant becoming a normal-ish cowboy lol
@RaceTheAce77
@RaceTheAce77 3 күн бұрын
I think from a game story perspective. Miller was already filling the role of the revenge driven hot head acting a bit irrational at times. If Ocelot was goofy as hell we wouldnt have a voice of reason as an advisor. So I think for that role he had to play the straight man
@thaviruayendra6194
@thaviruayendra6194 3 күн бұрын
Spoiler Alert! Isn't Venom Is Brain Washed Medic In Ground Zeros. And Ocelot Pretend To Be Venom Is Real Naked Snake?
@olucaspc
@olucaspc 3 күн бұрын
spoilers yes venom is the medic in ground zeroes while in coma, he is being fed the missions via some kind of hypnosis. also yes ocelot is did self hypnosis on himself to believe venom was the real big boss (naked snake)
@classicsagat
@classicsagat 3 күн бұрын
You got it backwards, Venom chose to be a second Big Boss after what happens in the beginning of TPP(not like he had that much choice with the circumstances) and Ocelot "brainwashed" or hypnotized himself to think Venom is the actual Big Boss. At least that's my headcannon atm.
@panzerkampfwagentigerausf.4352
@panzerkampfwagentigerausf.4352 3 күн бұрын
@@classicsagatVenom only finds out that he isn’t big boss at the of the game so that ain’t really possible
@classicsagat
@classicsagat 3 күн бұрын
@@panzerkampfwagentigerausf.4352 I guess you're right hmm
@notverifiable3731
@notverifiable3731 3 күн бұрын
Thought it was a midlife crisis, specially the cowboy thing
@evanweiss71
@evanweiss71 4 күн бұрын
whered you get that extra footage of him doing target practice?
@9191lee
@9191lee 3 күн бұрын
you get the cutscene if you haven't played for a while and dont have DD. Ocelot gets upset that Snake was gone for too long and destroys some practice targets haha
@evanweiss71
@evanweiss71 3 күн бұрын
@@9191lee sick ty!!
@2PhoneTyphoon
@2PhoneTyphoon 4 күн бұрын
EDIT AS OF SEPTEMBER 24: OH I WAS RIGHT? or atleast the lore is leaning that way with all the stuff Heihachi reveal showed
@CLxJames
@CLxJames 4 күн бұрын
He hypnotized himself after Big Boss woke up
@2PhoneTyphoon
@2PhoneTyphoon 4 күн бұрын
That I wanted to mention but I was almost closing in on the shorts runtime so I left it out. Point still stands tho hypnotized or not he just wanted to work with snake
@JacktheStripper-tc5pn
@JacktheStripper-tc5pn 3 күн бұрын
The video has a better explanation, nice try bud
@MasterOfDarkness42069
@MasterOfDarkness42069 4 күн бұрын
Interesting, I never thought of it that way! Makes sense.
@brainafkstube5393
@brainafkstube5393 5 күн бұрын
He tried so hard fitting in and it still came off weird
@2PhoneTyphoon
@2PhoneTyphoon 5 күн бұрын
@@brainafkstube5393 “she’s in love with the Boss, I was too” LIKE BRO WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE🤨🤣🤣🤣
@natevirtual
@natevirtual 9 күн бұрын
I realize that with time, Venom has grown on a lot of people.
@Levi-028
@Levi-028 9 күн бұрын
Always liked Kiefer as Venom/Big Boss, I find his voice perfect for Venom as we find out that he isn’t the real Big Boss, I get that people wanted David Hayter, but I feel that Kiefer is perfect for an older Snake
@johnlongsten5509
@johnlongsten5509 12 күн бұрын
Maybe I’m wrong for saying this but I think we need to start understanding that snake was not a perfect clone and neither was liquid. It was only solids that should have big bosses voice
@graye2799
@graye2799 22 күн бұрын
Im more so of the line of thought that the main story in general needed a revamp. What this game was supposed to be was the wrap-up to MGS that answered as much as it could, so i think it would have been better had it done that instead of drifting off on a plot to stop a parasite that somehow gave us the ability to speak (i guess you can keep them, just remove the part where they somehow gave us the ability to speak. It seems wack even by mgs standards). You can keep things like quiet, but i would have preferred actual big boss. Essentially, have the game focus on how snake stops skullface, (who can still be working on his own agenda) , have him really hurt the patriots, and how he comes to be the biggest thorn in the patriots' side that eventually culminated in outer heaven.
@karimh9958
@karimh9958 24 күн бұрын
I think venom snake's story is a sad one.
@justinpearce3626
@justinpearce3626 24 күн бұрын
I agree. This is what I also liked about the remake, especially regarding their relationship. In the OG, it doesn't really make sense to me that Ada was just there to be a long love interest for Leon. Now, Leon's demeanor throughout the game towards Ada is more realistic and reasonable. The potential romance between them has been toned down quite sensibly.
@quajay187
@quajay187 27 күн бұрын
I love Venom. He became my favorite snake in the series right after playing TPP. And I MUCH prefer Kiefer over Hayter for Venom/Big Boss. Hayter is Solid Snake. And Venom not being a chatterbox?... I think that fits him perfectly. Hes a soldier.. under hypnosis.. with slight brain damage. Makes total sense IMO.
@SandTierGaming
@SandTierGaming 28 күн бұрын
Isn't naked snake and big boss one person? 0:19
@Handsome_Tissue
@Handsome_Tissue 2 күн бұрын
Yes, I have no idea why he said that instead of mentioning Solidus.
@aquilafasciata5781
@aquilafasciata5781 Ай бұрын
2:00 “Very realistic graphics for the time” Bruh TO THIS DAY it is one of the best looking games ever made. I also firmly believe the FOX engine is one of the best game engines of all time
@HEAVYDIAPER
@HEAVYDIAPER Ай бұрын
It still sucks.
@Levi-028
@Levi-028 9 күн бұрын
Explain why
@LiterallyRyan_Gosling
@LiterallyRyan_Gosling Ай бұрын
My headcanon for what was meant to happen after chapter 2 is this: Chapter 3 - Fall (or something better, whatever) Chapter 2 ends with the big battle between Diamond Dogs and Eli's kingdom of the flies. Diamond Dogs wins, and the island is bombarded by Diamond Dogs to not leave a trace of what happened, making Venom think he allowed Eli to die. The children got recaptured by Diamond Dogs, and are given more military roles around the base to satiate their bloodlust. Things such as the second vocal cord outbreak and Quiet leaving still happen, putting a heavy toll on Venom's mind, but he moves on, with Diamond Dogs getting hired to do more jobs. The jobs become darker and more gruesome, such as recruiting child soldiers into his army, or having to silence people and maybe even former Diamond Dogs soldiers (such as how you're sometimes tasked in FOB events to take down former members who made their own PFs). You're given choices to be a good person, or to go further into being a demon. Most of the times though, you'll be forced to be a demon (maybe having to kill a child or two here and there). The Paz story line also still happens, but is more integrated into the story (such as when on a mission you'll see faint sightings of her, and eventually you run into her, and extract her back to Mother Base). The visions of Paz further develop, and eventually the truth is revealed she died long ago. This breaks Venom mentally, and Outer Heaven becomes more and more ruthless. Somewhere down the line this makes Miller leave Diamond Dogs and wreck parts of Mother Base, prompting it to be seen as unfit for a proper home to Diamond Dogs. Luckily, there have been signs of instability in South Africa, and you're sent on a couple of missions to destabilize the region, allowing for the takeover of Fortress Outer Heaven in a big final battle, and Outer Heaven being created as a nation, with Venom also approving the beginning of a new weapon: Metal Gear TX-55. The game "ends" here, and the player is now free to do what they want. However, once they reach 100% completion, a final mission is unlocked: Truth: The Man Who Sold The World. It shows a much older Venom, around the year 1995. There is trouble in Outer Heaven, with resistance fighters recently increasing, and foreign nations taking a bigger notice into the things going on inside Outer Heaven, mainly the construction of TX-55. Recently a spy had been captured from FOXHOUND, someone known as Gray Fox. Venom is hit while fighting against resistance fighters, and is temporarily able to see his true self in a reflection. He goes back to his quarters, looks in the mirror, and just like the truth ending, sees himself. He plays the tape in which the real Big Boss reveals the truth, and the cutscene plays out as it did like in MGSV. It then cuts to alarms going off all around Outer Heaven, with the self-destruct sequence having been activated after Solid Snake destroy Metal Gear TX-55. Venom and Solid meet, and a battle ensues. The player can fight as hard as they want, but no matter what they do, they cannot kill Solid Snake. Eventually once they die, Solid manages to flee Outer Heaven, and Venom receives a transmission from his iDroid. Big Boss tells him he did a great job, and will be remembered by him as a hero. The rest of the world will never have known of his existence, yet Venom is glad to have served under Big Boss. Big Boss tells him he no longer has to bear the title of Big Boss, and bids him farewell. Venom dies as Outer Heaven erupts, with "Here's To You" playing in the background.
@solidsnakemgs7
@solidsnakemgs7 Ай бұрын
Bro I just found your channel and I think love it, like me you love MGS, Tekken and you like talking about the story and theories, just subscribed
@2PhoneTyphoon
@2PhoneTyphoon Ай бұрын
@@solidsnakemgs7 thanks Glad you liked both the MGS and Tekken videos. The support is always appreciated ✌️
@RiasatSalminSami
@RiasatSalminSami Ай бұрын
Why did Big Boss had exact same voice as solid snake anyway? I mean I guess the canon explanation is because solid snake is his clone. But then changing david hayter later on ruined the consistency. They should have had different voice for big boss from the beginning [aka mgs3] if they planned on having different voice for BB and kept hayter for voicing solid snake. Actually wasnt Solidus a perfect clone of BB? BB should have had Solidus' voice actor insted.
@Handsome_Tissue
@Handsome_Tissue 2 күн бұрын
Kojima actually wanted Kurt Russell to play Big Boss in Mgs3 but he turned it down.
@JohnDoe-mb1uu
@JohnDoe-mb1uu Ай бұрын
13:13 what's really ironic is that venom is basically Raiden of mgsv, fans hated you couldn't play as snake in mgs2 and then when 5 came out it became everyone's favorite games even though Venom is not snake.
@hinatahyuga9311
@hinatahyuga9311 Ай бұрын
Well that's the point of Phantom pain part 1 is all revenge against Skull face then part 2 is The Rise of Outer Heaven and Venom Snakes Legacy and to build his own dream and ambition which is kind of confirmed into cassette tape of the man who sold the world and reality and I can understand why people we're upset because Mr. David Hayter did not Voice Venom like he Did Solid Snake and Big Boss but Kiefer Sutherland was enjoyable as Venom Snake
@connorsmith3379
@connorsmith3379 Ай бұрын
I think it’s not supposed to matter how good Venom Snake is or not. This is about Big Boss becoming the villain and he is. Big Boss does to one of his soldiers what the US government did to the Boss.
@kyriellepunongbayan6909
@kyriellepunongbayan6909 Ай бұрын
Ada manipulates Leon.. but also.. Ada cant resist saving Leon.. Ada really do love Leon.. what some virgin fans blindly missed is.. Ada played two personalities.. the tough Ada is the fake Ada.. The real genuine Ada is soft which only surfaced in RE2 when she said "take care of your self".. that softer Ada is shown the whole RE4. the whole reason why capcom decided to change her voice actor is to portray the idea even more..
@TheFozze
@TheFozze Ай бұрын
I honestly think they should have kept David as the real big boss and given kiefer the role of Venom. The other snakes are clones of the same man, while venom is a mental doppleganger in the same line as liquid and ocelot were. sure, it would be an awfully small amount of David, but i think it would have been a nice touch edit: They could have had Kiefer voice Ishmael at the start of the game and played it off with a casette tape later where BB and ocelot are talking along the lines of BB:"Wont he recognize my voice?" Ocelot:"No, since hes been undergoing hypnosis to think he's you he should still register your voice as his own for a while after waking up. a small side effect, but one thats to our advantage." I think that would be kinda on brand and a nice way to keep the illusion alive
@WeCareAlot4693
@WeCareAlot4693 2 ай бұрын
"You think of all the Snakes: Solid, Liquid, Naked, and-" Solidus? "Big Boss." 🫠
@2PhoneTyphoon
@2PhoneTyphoon 2 ай бұрын
I mean, only reason why I didn’t think of Solidus was he was an antagonist, but that is a mistake on my end cause I also mentioned liquid. My fault for not mentioning the former president🫡
@GoldenLion44
@GoldenLion44 2 ай бұрын
I suppose I was one of those few who liked Leon simping for Ada
@liorpapismedov2519
@liorpapismedov2519 2 ай бұрын
What we wanted to see from the final game in the saga was to experience big boss's downfall and thus becoming the villain we see later in the saga but with the venom snake reveal it was rubbed from us and we were left with a cheap half measure which was disappointing to this day.
@rn6312
@rn6312 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like you have a phantom pain. Need a box of tissues?
@MEHLOW
@MEHLOW 2 ай бұрын
People forget venom snake is not big boss 😅 obviously he’s going to be different.
@DrMedicsGameSurgery
@DrMedicsGameSurgery 2 ай бұрын
One thing people forget is that big boss's survival was actually explained in MG2, form his "death" in mg1. It was dr petrovitch who saved big boss and used parts from his Snatcher Project to turn him into a cyborg in MG2 (unrelated to cybrog boss from snakes revenge). But in the rerelase before V in the english release that explanation was removed from the game. Big Boss being in a coma also contradicts the original story of how big boss met grey fox. though that gies more credence to the other retcon of grey fox in portable ops though. In a way V tried to fix a plothole of MG1 whiel now creating plotholes in MG2.
@Ali-xs2ij
@Ali-xs2ij 2 ай бұрын
Venom being a new fan favourite feels really good for those who liked him since the beginning.
@Shadow-jm9ei
@Shadow-jm9ei 2 ай бұрын
No need for a theory when Chet Faliszek (writer) already confirmed in a old interview saying that the L4D2 survivors were taken to a cruise ship after The Parish. I can't put the link in comments but the title is ''left 4 dead 2 interview: Chet Faliszek." from the channel "DUDEZZFOM" in 1:21.
@2PhoneTyphoon
@2PhoneTyphoon 2 ай бұрын
I think your one of the few people in the community I’ve seen to mention this I saw it on steam comment once and didn’t know if it was legit. thanks man I’ll totally take a look at this
@Lymade1112
@Lymade1112 2 ай бұрын
So i have a theory that kinda off the topic -Tls was another way of death toll or another Ending,like the survivor pick another way and go to light house -the crash helicopter on the parish can possibly it was Military Helicopter got shoot by the resistance or the pilot is infected or accidentally Got shoot by military jet (Sorry if my English bad)
@Diego-rw2hb
@Diego-rw2hb 2 ай бұрын
I just can't help but love V, he's a really tragic character. And even after being brainwashed you can see the medic in some of the decisions he made
@The_Punisher
@The_Punisher 2 ай бұрын
We need hardcore modders to finish the game for us
@qmurray
@qmurray 2 ай бұрын
7:27 it’s set between PeaceWalker and Metal gear not MGS
@theresidentteacher2438
@theresidentteacher2438 2 ай бұрын
I say....Leon & Jill! Two badasses. One a little silly, one a little serious. Leon is cool, Jill can be a hot head. Both are skilled and capable, smart. That ONE SCENE in Death Island Sold me. WE ALL SAW THAT "MOMENT" THEY HAD
@melkorstormcrown6939
@melkorstormcrown6939 2 ай бұрын
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm….I’ll let you cook, gomna check for sauce later
@theelectricprince8231
@theelectricprince8231 2 ай бұрын
MGSV has the greatest gameplaynof any game I have played
@dennrock559
@dennrock559 2 ай бұрын
I loved the gameplay but the story was pure crap. I believe konami forced kojima to do it
@carbharharbcar5867
@carbharharbcar5867 2 ай бұрын
because its dumb. the story was completely unfinished and our character was a lame blank slate with no flavor. given the circumstances, it was neat the way kojima did what he could with what he had but the game is suboptimal in terms of story across the board.
@Roz3Ghost
@Roz3Ghost 2 ай бұрын
“We r Punished Snake… we r the Snake that SNAKE KILLED… The Gamer… amazing”
@Magnusfication
@Magnusfication 2 ай бұрын
The fact that Venom is the fkn medic is almost as insulting as the Patriots being the support team from mgs3. Kojima has been off his story telling game since mgs3 imo. And yes, i did play literally all mg games. Including the Acid ones and the graphic novels.
@rn6312
@rn6312 2 ай бұрын
So why have you been dumb enough to play the stuff past MGS3 then?