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@ShadowdaHedgie11 4 ай бұрын
It's always great to see characters who, even if they're not going to hesitate, have respect for their opponents. Or at least for the person that their opponents used to be.
@Doggomorph 7 ай бұрын
Doesnt apply to me i instantly promote ephraim on the first turn and got him the Signelide or the other sacred stone special lance muahahahhahaahaa and max him out
@jorge.penacovidiano Жыл бұрын
Im back again, sir orson.
@ritogamo9830 Жыл бұрын
jagen vs unexpected traitor jagen
@taramaforhaikido7272 Жыл бұрын
Some people make it about "feelings". Nah, it's worse then that. Orson lost the only thing that gave his life reason and purpose. Deep down he likely knew his wife was an empty shell. In denial about it. What else did he have though? He wants the memory. It's so tragic. I love it!
@demonking41-l8j 9 ай бұрын
Nothing is scarier than a man with nothing left to lose.
@ghis4000 Жыл бұрын
seth v seth 2*
@cajunmane7272 2 жыл бұрын
This nigga was rrly piping down a dead body 💀 I don't lost my shit when I read this as a kid lmao
@zebra_ecstasy5772 2 жыл бұрын
Why was I recommended this video It's been 14 years What the hell
@swedenfc19 2 жыл бұрын
The KZbin algorithm works in mysterious ways.
@guardianofthetoasters2323 2 жыл бұрын
Seth, the guy first timers used all the way because he is simply that strong
@maltheopia 2 жыл бұрын
Unless I'm trying to do something weird like a ranked run or zero percent growths, I pick my team by personality instead of by combat performance. The problem with FE8 is that there are so many well-written characters that I end up just rolling dice to see whether a new unit should displace an old one. Nothing personal, Seth, Ross, Joshua, and Lute.
@guardianofthetoasters2323 2 жыл бұрын
@@maltheopia well if this is the first fire emblem game you have ever played, then new players like me back then would use this beast 9/10
@maltheopia 2 жыл бұрын
@@guardianofthetoasters2323 Yup. Seth is good even on zero percent growths, so I never feel bad about shelving this beast of a man for a few levels while I play around with meme units.
@kilnareth7970 Жыл бұрын
Back then, I was of the mindset to stop using OP things at the start of every game so I actually never used Seth once through first playthrough.
@KarlSturmgewher 2 жыл бұрын
Tana vs. Orson: Tana: "Orson. Come back to Renais, for Ephraim and Eirika! You need not give into this senseless quest to save your wife!" Orson: "I'll never betray Lyon, or my wife. Tana: "There's always a way out. Orson: "What about for my wife years ago?! Was there a way out for HER then?" Tana: "I'm sorry it's got to end like this."
@thelegacyofgaming2928 2 ай бұрын
Orson is a well written character. Sheesh
@miky_the_shepherd 2 жыл бұрын
I hoped for a crit
@mattdominick1679 2 жыл бұрын
Best Unit vs. Best Traitor
@clutchuwu1355 3 жыл бұрын
Okay quick question. What happens if Orson dies before this mission, I always took his inventory the mission before when he assisted Ephraim, but I've never let him die out for some reason...
@zhengwenyu1587 3 жыл бұрын
I believe he simply retreats
@bend.7590 3 жыл бұрын
All the comments from 10 years ago calling Seth a Jagen did not age well at all. Seth to this day is the best prepromote in any fire emblem game and easily the best unit in SS. He can solo the entire game
@thelegacyofgaming2928 2 ай бұрын
Seth is his own category.
@alex-sh5ed 3 жыл бұрын
Algorithms are magical. Just when Orson makes it to FEH this pops in my you-know-where.
@straypaper 3 жыл бұрын
Eirika: "Sir Seth, this Iron Sword is just about to break. We can't risk anyone being caught in battle with just one swing left. Would you take care of this, Sir Seth?" Seth: "Certainly, Lady Eirika." Seth later that day:
@lpfan4491 3 жыл бұрын
He was just using advanced strategies. Orson saw a regular ironsword break, so he will not be able to prepare Seth suddenly pulling the Audhulma.
@justsomeguywithaquestionab3175 3 жыл бұрын
Of course, this appeared in my recommended the moment Orson is a ghb unit in Feh.
@adl_dic 3 жыл бұрын
ORSON IN HEROES
@omegadragoon1544 3 жыл бұрын
Orson is in FEH!!!!
@randomuser5663 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Seth still respects orson even though he betrayed renais
@thelegacyofgaming2928 2 ай бұрын
They probably grew up together as knights.
@ythandlename 3 жыл бұрын
Orson betrayed Ephraim not because for his wife, but because not only did he stripped him of all his items; he was used as bait for the enemy units right after he just tells him to not push himself.
@akkarinderweise1617 3 жыл бұрын
The first time I played sacred stones I lost that silver sword. That was a tragic moment D: after that i always took everything from him xD i guess we all did:D
@kaeru3228 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, we really all did it.
@Jang7457. 2 жыл бұрын
Well the first time i played FESS i didnt take his items away because its like he is on par with Seth, and i was raged because Orson became an enemy
@AnoNYmous-bz2ef 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that was you, not Ephraim
@Cyborg609 Жыл бұрын
They should have given Orson more chapters on player side and have those be paladin favoring maps to bait noobs in to investing to him. Imagine sharing frontline kills with Seth and maybe even giving some statboosters to him (with the dream of having 2 Seths on field) and then having him betray you. That would have actually made someone mad compared to just losing his equipment. Heck.. why not even give the stat gains you got while controlling him to his boss base stats now that I started to think like asshole game dev?
@acephilosopher5146 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone talking about the iron sword, but when I see seth has an S rank in swords I be like
@joshuagabrielcatindig7607 3 жыл бұрын
It's quite possible, as early as the first chapter in the route split.
@MrMatthias 3 жыл бұрын
It's my favorite entry in the series, and yet after all these years, I didn't know there was unique dialogue for fighting Orson with Seth.
@InternetPeopleAreNotReal 3 жыл бұрын
It’s weird looking through all the comments dating back 12 years ago and seeing everyone’s takes on Jagens. We come a long way. We have become enlightened on how truly broken of units they are.
@MarceloKatayama 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos to LittleAl016, defending jagens 8 years ago
@stephenfong1144 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, some Jagens aren't really Jagens because they have good growth rates, and those are the ones that good, not the true Jagens
@InternetPeopleAreNotReal 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenfong1144 out of all the “Jagens” in the series the only one I can think of that is not broken is Gunter. While some “Jagens” fall of sooner than others like FE6 Marcus or Aaron, their utility in the early game is worth so much that I would still consider them good. I think trying to distinguish Oifeys from Jagens is kind of dumb.
@alejandro_rodriguez_99 3 жыл бұрын
@@InternetPeopleAreNotReal the problem with Gunter is that he is only a Jagen 2 chapters, because when he arrives in revelations and specially in conquest he is outclassed because his stats are awful, specially speed. The only good thing that he has is his defense in conquest.
@stephenfong1144 2 жыл бұрын
@@InternetPeopleAreNotReal That's fair, but I would also argue that the OG himself is also kind of bad, my Marth and Abel bulldozed the early game just fine for me (then Merric showed up and I was basically set)
@AGJ117 4 жыл бұрын
It's still disturbing how it's hinted that Orson was so mentally broken over the death of his wife that he probably made love to her dead corpse.
@maltheopia 3 жыл бұрын
My man needed some hardcore therapy, not a Regenleif to the face. Sucks living in pre-industrial times.
@joshuagabrielcatindig7607 3 жыл бұрын
@@maltheopia or a Silver Axe to the torso. I made Duessel kill him. Traitor killed traitor.
@maltheopia 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuagabrielcatindig7607 If you're playing 0% growths that's a good strategy for every boss battle. Have Duessel, Gerik, Seth, and Saleh kill everything.
@joshuagabrielcatindig7607 3 жыл бұрын
@@maltheopia what about Innes though?
@maltheopia 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuagabrielcatindig7607 I forgot about Innes, yeah, bring him too. Fucking Deathgoyles.
@butteredsalmonella 6 жыл бұрын
Top 10 anime fights
@jerry3115 6 жыл бұрын
Of all his weapons you chose an IRON SWORD
@joshuagabrielcatindig7607 4 жыл бұрын
Probably to dispose of it.
@noelle1030 4 жыл бұрын
AND IT EVEN BROKE AFTER THE FIRST STRIKE 😂
@falena2245 4 жыл бұрын
@@noelle1030 LOL xD
@Lunchbucket192 6 жыл бұрын
"It is my charge. It is my hope. Sir Orson...prepare yourself." Fantastically written dialogue right there. Seth is such a good character
@diegoramirezbrenes6389 6 жыл бұрын
Lunchbucket Like if you wanted to kill Orson with Kyle/Forde but you just couldn't :v
@diegoramirezbrenes6389 6 жыл бұрын
And finally killed him with Ephraim and a Killer Lance
@GrumpyOrangeCat 6 жыл бұрын
I killed him with Ephraim using reginleif, soooo.
@SymbioteVenom-f9i 4 жыл бұрын
seth only vs orson
@byronvonedmund 3 жыл бұрын
Hey another Robin pfp enjoyer
@endeavorrattata7839 6 жыл бұрын
I remember using myrrh against him.... i got really scared but it actually turned out to my favor...... myrrh's very op i dont wanna use her anymore.
@arawn1061 6 жыл бұрын
The man the myth the legend
@ynelonitnelot8860 5 жыл бұрын
Captain Price? XD
@praneshroyale5019 6 жыл бұрын
SETH is the best silver knight of the whole world
@landonthielen7017 7 жыл бұрын
whenever you start this game seth is the biggest fucking beast ever imo hes a palladin so i guess thats why he is so strong but damn its like steroids i lost in the prologue because eirika was hurt and exposed so i lost in normal mode lol
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast 7 жыл бұрын
Landon Thielen And remember, this is the game that nerf them by only wielding sword and alances and removed their axes to balance them.
@maltheopia 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast Imagine how even more busted Seth would be if he could wield Handaxes/Hatchets, Brave Axes, or Garm.
@castblast4063 7 жыл бұрын
fuck you Orson
@blackknightjack3850 8 жыл бұрын
According to Jonathan McIntosh neither the music or the scene at the end can be neither sad, emotional, or introspective simply because it isn't an indie game.
@danialamjad8083 8 жыл бұрын
I love this game but it is hard and i war on chapter 19 but i did not have cool people i had so many that died
@ALPhaubber9 9 жыл бұрын
what does he say to seth when he dies?
@SethTheArcanine 9 жыл бұрын
Just his normal death speech.
@noVva555 9 жыл бұрын
ALPhaubber9 you will never see it.....becuase SETH IS THE SON OF CHUCK NORRIS
@ALPhaubber9 9 жыл бұрын
so he has no time to say anything?
@ALPhaubber9 9 жыл бұрын
he just drops dead?
@noVva555 9 жыл бұрын
ALPhaubber9 no i saying that set is the best paladin in all the series
@majoric2121 10 жыл бұрын
The most beautiful confrontation of all the fire emblem
@2000sDigitalBoy 11 жыл бұрын
Some people consider the Oifey a sub-category of the Jeigan archetype.
@reiswindy 11 жыл бұрын
I thought he was an Oifey archetype?
@alecneal602 11 жыл бұрын
I'd argue that Marcus is better in the harder FE7 modes. FE8 is still fairly easy without Seth (and Seth doesn't make HM!Father and Son less of a groin-punch), whereas Marcus is absolutely head-and-shoulders above... well, pretty much everyone ever, in a game where you have a much smaller selection of highly competent units (which require more training to become killing machines). TL;DR God with very mild Speed issues in a hard game > God with very mild HP issues in an easy game.
@QuickSmasherEXE 11 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Seth start out with 46 HP though?
@megaoptamas759 11 жыл бұрын
Seth= best FE knight ever
@I_AM_JUST_A_NARCISSIST Жыл бұрын
best? more like The God of FE Paladin
@HuskyWolf101 Жыл бұрын
Seth is way better than Marcus
@LittleAl016 12 жыл бұрын
In FE7 Marcus's case: It's not as bad as you make it seem. (Far from it actually.) Even if he does have -2 Spd on average at that level (which, if I'm not mistaken, should be when you recruit Geitz/re-recruit Wallace, and that's assuming that you feed him boss kills), he can still weaken enemies, and of course act as a bit of a ferry for Eliwood or whoever else may need extra movement. And of course, I'll direct you to the key words "good for beating the map in fewer turns".
@LittleAl016 12 жыл бұрын
EXP is only good as a means to an end. Their growths are the only thing from being useful is the game's second half. Aside from that, using Jagen, FE6 Marcus, and Zealot, can help shave some turns off of your total turncount in the meantime and are arguably required to be used on their game's hardest difficulty. These facts put them comfortably in Upper Mid, if not High, on Efficiency Tier Lists. Same thing with Isadora minus the required on HM part, despite not joining as early as FE7 Marcus.
@maltheopia 2 жыл бұрын
how does it feel to be vindicated?
@LittleAl016 12 жыл бұрын
You can't judge everything by growths alone. Especially when growths are luck reliant, and don't exactly give a complete picture of the story about a unit. Which is part of why I brought up the LHM promotion, and being as good as Marcus (who by the way, IS the best paladin in FE7) when he rejoins. Besides, Sain's growths aren't as bad as you think. Believe me when I say Lowen's are worse. Lowen's good earlygame, but has limited usefulness outside of that.
@luminescentpearl4126 2 жыл бұрын
Bro is ahead of his time
@LittleAl016 2 жыл бұрын
@@luminescentpearl4126 You can thank the guys at Serenes for having set me straight.
@luminescentpearl4126 2 жыл бұрын
@@LittleAl016 HOLY FUCK HE'S STILL ALIVE
@wrathofpain5 12 жыл бұрын
He maxes strength early but all his other stat growths are shit. Lowen is the best paladin in that game.
@LittleAl016 12 жыл бұрын
The only ones I would call better than the prepromoted paladins are Cain, Abel, Aless, Alan, Lance, and arguably Oscar. All the rest are objectively worse in comparison. (Well, except when being compared to Isadora and Geoffrey.) Being worse in comparison =/= being bad units though. And Sain's the second best cavalier in the game. All he needs is a LHM promotion, and he helps defeat Lundgren, and he's as good as Marcus when he rejoins.
@downsouthchiko5492 7 жыл бұрын
oldest comment ever but kyle outmatches all of them
@shanner 7 жыл бұрын
LittleAl016 alan and lance? Uhh, perceval would like a word with you
@LittleAl016 12 жыл бұрын
Jagens were always usable though. :/
@LittleAl016 12 жыл бұрын
There's really no difference between a Jagen and an Oifey aside from the fact that Oifeys have usefulness outside of being a Disc One Nuke at best.
@LittleAl016 12 жыл бұрын
The list of which, is actually fairly long when you think about it.