Cleaning Norton Commando Carbs
18:58
Norton Commando Head disassembly
18:28
Final Shop Update
7:36
4 ай бұрын
Fixing my Thruxton-R oil leak
14:42
Plans for my Norton Commando
7:50
Update on ALL of my motorcycles
12:20
Shop Update Part 3!
7:42
5 ай бұрын
My 1951 Ariel Square Four
6:12
6 ай бұрын
Dream Shop Update!
5:00
7 ай бұрын
Norton Commando Build (part 4)
5:25
Rebuilding Commando forks (Part 2)
11:48
I bought a Vapor Blaster!!!
8:10
9 ай бұрын
Norton Commando build part 1
6:01
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@nikolastonic96
@nikolastonic96 14 күн бұрын
Gotten any further yet ? Been waiting for a new vid on the engine assembly. 😁
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 14 күн бұрын
Sorry! I’ve had a lot going on and haven’t done much to it lately. I’ll try to get something out soon!
@emmanuelmartin1238
@emmanuelmartin1238 24 күн бұрын
My dad had one in the 50's, he told me about it when I was a teen, I didn't know anything about bikes back then.. I thought It sounded like a washing machine or similar. Roll on to today, I think if I had the mechanical skills to keep it in shape, I'd love to own one.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 24 күн бұрын
Get one! This one is for sale if you are interested
@emmanuelmartin1238
@emmanuelmartin1238 24 күн бұрын
Don't tempt me Frodo.
@TheReverb1
@TheReverb1 27 күн бұрын
Hello; thanks. My question is about the removing of the cover. Seems possible to change the seal without removing its? Or I am seeing it wrong? -I have and oil leak from the other side; from the gear position sensor, but I found 2 different part numbers...also with rare dimensions -Is there a parts book? I have old Triumph and there are parts books with exploded views etc and manuals but with these Hinckley models seem all a mystery
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 24 күн бұрын
I think you can do it without removing the cover. I was curious what it looked like inside the cover. I found the parts numbers online on a triumph dealers website. It did take some searching.
@paulbiggs9279
@paulbiggs9279 Ай бұрын
I own a 2018 R, which I bought new, love it, but it's an expensive hobby, just had the 40k service done through Triumph, over a £1,000... You can also change mode on the hop, as long as you engage the clutch, you don't need to be stationary. Paul UK
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 24 күн бұрын
Yes, thank you!
@EminBastea
@EminBastea Ай бұрын
where i can find the manual?
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 Ай бұрын
I googled and found it online. If you email me at [email protected] I can send it to you
@brucebear1
@brucebear1 Ай бұрын
I'm guessing that the damage was done by a previous owner or a PO's mechanic (??) but the way to prevent this damage is shown in Fig C22 and paragraph 9 just below it in Section C16 of the 750/850 Workshop manual. That's for disassembly, it's Fig.C38 and paragraph 11 in section C30.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 Ай бұрын
Yes, you can modify a cover. I might do that in the future
@nickaxe771
@nickaxe771 2 ай бұрын
I like the way K&N put a nice cover on there iol filter to keep crap out....
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 2 ай бұрын
It is a quality piece!
@nickaxe771
@nickaxe771 2 ай бұрын
Great vid.....love to know where you found the work shop manual. I have the Haynes Manual for my 2020 T100....but could do with a more detail manual. I know triumph say dont use there encapsulated bolt again.....we suspect just using std thread lock will do. But if there easy to get and not expensive what the hell. Can I ask.....do you get any sort of cold start tapping from your motor.....I do on my T100....seem lots of the 900 and 1200 engines have it.....not all though. Cant get to the bottom off it. Nick in the UK.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 2 ай бұрын
I googled and found the factory service manual in a .pdf when I was doing this. I tried to find it again and am not having any luck. e-mail me at [email protected] and I'll send you the .pdf I'm not having any cold start tapping that I have noticed.
@SlingsAxes
@SlingsAxes 2 ай бұрын
That engine makes sweet mechanical music.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 2 ай бұрын
It really does!
@stefanlageambecker6077
@stefanlageambecker6077 2 ай бұрын
I am waiting for my thruxton rs now .
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 2 ай бұрын
Awesome! You will love it
@bernswonger57
@bernswonger57 2 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for, I disassembled one fork leg,cleaned it up,put in fresh oil and reassembled. On the second leg,I found that fiber washer laying on the floor,and didnt know where it came from. Im almost certain, the first one i did doesn't have one in it. So here I go again. Thanks for showing me the way.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 2 ай бұрын
I’m glad it helped you
@bobbybuechler6627
@bobbybuechler6627 2 ай бұрын
Exactly what service manual are you using? I’ve been looking for a service manual for my thruxton RS
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 2 ай бұрын
I googled and found a .pdf online of a dealer manual.
@alansivkoff282
@alansivkoff282 2 ай бұрын
Rh5 head?
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 2 ай бұрын
I’m not sure
@TornadoCAN99
@TornadoCAN99 2 ай бұрын
When doing the Amal carbs, Premiers or early types, I always ensure I get a good spray of cleaner (carb, throttle, brake cleaners or even just WD40) up and out the two tiny holes in the carb body throat. These are the holes fuel/air mixture from the pilot jet has to pass through. If they have any restriction, poor running will result. One the Premiers, also blow cleaner through the pilot jet (removed from carb) to check spray out the 3 or 4 periphery holes of the jet. Another good tip, for even new sets of Premiers, thoroughly spray out all the fuel passages from bottom of bowl and in the carb body. Many reports of these have machining swarf still present out of the box. Have heard ultrasonics do not always remove the crust of fuel residue inside carb jets (from leaving fuel in carb during storage), so be aware of that and confirm your jets flow clean as stated above. A good tip I heard for ultrasonic....place items in a glass jar, a plastic container or even a plastic bag....fill container with a solvent best matched for the job at hand (say acetone, kerosine, gas, concentrated degreaser etc) and then put contain in ultrasonic fill with clean water only. Makes for more effective cleaning, much reduced waste and easy clean up. Be careful placing carb sealing surfaces against the wire tray in the ultrasonic tank....the vibrations can etch into the sealing surface over time, making for a leaky carb. Saw recent video of someone using ultrasonic on a vintage 1924 Amal carb in a metal mesh tray....came out with surface plating worn away at contact points, making his metallic-silver carb body revealing a brass metal beneath in a grid pattern.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 2 ай бұрын
All very good advice. I usually spray all the jets out with carb cleaner. I’m not sure why I didn’t hear. I’ve never heard of the metal grate breaking down parts before, but that makes sense. I’ll keep all of these suggestions in mind and modify how I use it in the future!
@TornadoCAN99
@TornadoCAN99 2 ай бұрын
@@motohomeless9168 With the soft alloy/pot-metal Amal uses on these carbs, you want to be extra cautious with them.
@hkc6007
@hkc6007 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have 2016 THRUXY & it has same problem. I will do this. Thanks for showing the procedure.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 2 ай бұрын
No problem!
@motorp742
@motorp742 3 ай бұрын
If your using a k&n aftermarket air filter, I'd use those plastic or i cut the metal cones that come with the carbs and they don't look perfect. Also the carbs have a L or R on them and should have a flat spot on the stud hole on the inside so they both fit tightly next to each other. Using a jis screwdriver on a British bike 😮😂
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 3 ай бұрын
I’ve got a regular air filter. I love my JIS screwdriver! It grips better than a standard one.
@motorp742
@motorp742 3 ай бұрын
@@motohomeless9168 so you have the oem stock filter? Right on
@576rl900
@576rl900 3 ай бұрын
There is a special Commando ring (steel) that fits the rubber boots to use the stock air filter. See the Andover Norton parts list.
@TornadoCAN99
@TornadoCAN99 2 ай бұрын
@@motohomeless9168 Actually JIS is the correct driver for the Amal screws....seen a lot where Philips have ruined the screw head. Be sure to not overtighten the float bowl screws or the carb mounting flange nuts....just get the lock washers to flatten and that's all. Too much will squash the softer carb material and deform the gasket surface and/or warp the carb body, leading to air leaks and possibly even throttle slide jamming.
@bryceonysko6479
@bryceonysko6479 3 ай бұрын
great job tku🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 3 ай бұрын
Glad you like it!
@steveaustin62
@steveaustin62 3 ай бұрын
Nice job, a proper repair.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 3 ай бұрын
I’m very happy with it!
@chrisatc627
@chrisatc627 3 ай бұрын
Nut spitter would have worked, and also on a drill bit only the tip is sharp, using the fluted part that removes the chips when drilling will get you no where
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 3 ай бұрын
I’ve never even heard of a nut splitter. I’ll have to look those up!
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn 3 ай бұрын
Last time I can remember seeing a Square Four in the wild was around 1961. It was sitting neglected and apparently abandoned at Wheelus Air Force Base in Libya. In such a remote location, obtaining parts to fix whatever was wrong it with probably was too much for the owner. I always wondered if it found a new owner before Kaddafi took over the base.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 3 ай бұрын
Wow. If that bike was still around, it would have amazing stories!
@annajeannettedixon2453
@annajeannettedixon2453 3 ай бұрын
well that is a val page design not a truner design
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 3 ай бұрын
I believe that is what I have from Andover Norton
@joenoneofyourbusiness6487
@joenoneofyourbusiness6487 3 ай бұрын
Isn't that nut left hand threaded?
@snake_eyes_garage
@snake_eyes_garage 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for Watching!
@billroe7832
@billroe7832 3 ай бұрын
2+bit of heat could work wonders
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 3 ай бұрын
I tried heat. Did not work.
@576rl900
@576rl900 3 ай бұрын
I suggest you keep your original case. You probably can fix the intermediate shaft with Loctite shaft and bearing mount. If you mate mismatched engine cases you really should have them line-bored to keep the camshaft bearings in line.
@576rl900
@576rl900 3 ай бұрын
The intermediate shaft probably damaged the hole by torqueing that camshaft bolt with out a holding device for the outer end of the shaft. (Cutaway old timing cover or Andover Norton type holding tool).
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 3 ай бұрын
Very solid point. I’ll have to consult with a friend of mine to get his thoughts on it and see which direction I should go in
@576rl900
@576rl900 3 ай бұрын
Also don't forget to examine the crankshaft rod bearing surface and mic them twice at 90 degrees apart. A light polish with fine emery paper by hand can remove any discoloration, but any scoring or out of round will require a machine shop to grind the journal and undersize bearings. If grinding it is imperative the blend into the counterweight be maintained.
@motorp742
@motorp742 3 ай бұрын
Wow that was a bummer to see. Definitely use a torque wrench going back on and don't over torque, like the last guy 😮
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 3 ай бұрын
For sure! I think the hulk put the last one on
@motorp742
@motorp742 3 ай бұрын
@@motohomeless9168 or an unskilled mechanic 🤣
@warmlandmobilebrakes
@warmlandmobilebrakes 3 ай бұрын
Should send this video to loctite, daamn bro your shit be craaaazy
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 3 ай бұрын
@@warmlandmobilebrakes hahaha. I don’t know how it was stuck so bad
@steveaustin62
@steveaustin62 3 ай бұрын
Camshaft nut says "... it's just a flesh wound, I'm not finished yet".
@billcobb9408
@billcobb9408 3 ай бұрын
Wow. Next step.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 3 ай бұрын
Yeah…it took a lot
@billcobb9408
@billcobb9408 3 ай бұрын
If you had an impact gun you could maybe break it loose.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 3 ай бұрын
I tried that with an impact that had 1500 ft lbs of torque.
@brucebear1
@brucebear1 3 ай бұрын
billcobb9408 - It's a difficult area to work on. The best way to hold the camshaft for removing the nut is to leave the timing chain on and block the timing reduction gears at the crankshaft but there's an issue -- the shaft that holds the larger reduction gear is set into a simple drilling in the crankcase and more energy (either from over-torqueing with a spanner or the pounding of an impact) than specified will break that shaft out of the crankcases and that situation is usually not repairable from a practical standpoint. Another way to go (as shown here) is to remove the timing chain (early Commandos have twin chains, one going to the cam in front and one parallel to the first going to the ignition points (also shown here) -- later Commandos have the points on the end of the camshaft so a single chain provides drive and timing for the cam and ignition. This is what's shown here. The problem with this is that there is no way to securely lock the camshaft into position to provide enough torque onto the nut to break it loose if it was put on too tightly. Something way back in my memory tells me -- so don't rely on it -- that there is a factor that's not is not a real issue but something to keep in mind is (I think) the nut is a left-hand thread so it turns backwards; this isn't a real problem you just turn a spanner the other way than usual or reverse an impact gun but the problem of not being able to hold the cam from turning is still there. A small subsidiary issue is that there is a small brass camshaft bushing that's right behind that sprocket and if you're using a "smoke wrench" to heat the nut up, you run a chance of melting the bushing and at that point, you have probably trashed the crankcases in another way. So what you're seeing in this video is making the best possible outcome of a bad situation and often the "best practical" solution isn't enough to get that nut loose if it's too tight. And, as shown in the video, sometime the only practical way to handle this is to trash the nut, sprocket, and cam if you're going to avoid damaging the cases. (EDIT -- OK, it's official that this old man has CRS. I went and reviewed the workshop manual -- which I should have done in the first place since I wrote it -- and it says clearly that the cam nut is normal right-hand thread; it's the crankshaft timing nut with drive for the intermediate timing gears and oil pump drive that's the left-hand thread. Duhh for me, but it makes no practical difference to the issue of the cam being very difficult-to-impossible to retain strongly enough to really crank on the nut. Apologies.)
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 3 ай бұрын
@@brucebear1 correct. The only reverse thread is the crank worm gear. I’ve been reading the Normal White manual as thoroughly as possible.
@peterjay1643
@peterjay1643 4 ай бұрын
Well, I own a N15 and a P11 and the engine is not a N15 engine . In both bikes are Norton Atlas 750 cc engines .
@johnAdamson-uk1dd
@johnAdamson-uk1dd 4 ай бұрын
I have had the same issue, I have to say before I invested in an impact driver, so yours must be tight, I ended up very carefully drilling the nut and spitting with a chisel, I don't envy the job my Commando was/is a 1970 so doesn't have the tacho drive so is just under 1/4" thick and it was easy to see where the thread ended, if you choose to drill and split I would probably source a new nut first so you determine where it is safe to drill.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Yeah….i thought it would be good to have the nut first as well, but I already started cutting it. 😂
@motorp742
@motorp742 4 ай бұрын
Remember when you got your asr cover back it had a pull pin holding in that ball. Use that for your install 😉
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, problem is I either lost it in my move or threw it away. I can make something similar up with what I have laying around.
@motorp742
@motorp742 4 ай бұрын
@@motohomeless9168 I think it's pretty much a paper clip thickness of metal 👍
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
@@motorp742 Yeah, I was thinking about using a wire hangar to do it. Are you the guy that does the conversion?
@576rl900
@576rl900 4 ай бұрын
Be careful not to allow the aluminum connecting rods to bang against the crankcases. Protect them with cardboard tubes (toilet paper rolls) or plastic bottles with the top and bottom removed (or buy some of those plastic mesh protectors). Any rod nicks will need to be polished out before re-using.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Will do! Thanks!
@576rl900
@576rl900 4 ай бұрын
The description you were looking for is cam lifters (or followers). To remove the cam sprocket nut, normally you would still have the cam chain and left-hand thread crank nut and gears on the engine. Then you can insert an aluminum (or steel) rod into one of the holes in the crank flywheel which will prevent the crank from turning. Alternatively, remove the pistons and insert a rod through the connecting rod small ends and use wooden blocks on the crankcase to prevent the crank from turning. Then with the proper size socket (preferrably a 6-point) and breaker bar, apply strong force counter clockwise to remove the cam sprocket nut. It is not recommended to use and impact gun, but if all else fails..... These are normally torqued to around 50 ft-lbs, but some "mechanics" use the "torque until it breaks, then back off a 1/4 turn" method. If it requires that much force or you have to split the nut with die grinder and cut-off wheel, you likely will damage the camshaft. However you remove the nut, examine the cam bearings carefully and replace if the thrust face is damaged.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Thanks. I tried the method you described to remove the nut. I think the hulk must have put it on. Even with 1500 ft lb capable impact, it was not coming off. I have no idea why it wont come off. I've tried everything short of cutting it off, so I think that is going to be the next move. I hope I don't damage the cam. They are expensive to replace!
@576rl900
@576rl900 4 ай бұрын
It is possible to separate the cases without removing the cam sprocket if the cam is re-usable. It won't be easy. I'm not sure how you removed the cam chain without removing the sprocket, but since the chain does not use a removable link. the chain and sprockets need to be installed as a unit. If you split the cases with the cam still in the timing side case, you will need to remove the intermediate gear shaft. When you re-assemble you would install the chain and sprockets, heat the case side and press the intermediate gear shaft through the sprocket and into the case until it seats against the circlip. I would consider this a last resort.
@steveaustin62
@steveaustin62 4 ай бұрын
You've got me hooked now, the nut has to go.
@JagLite
@JagLite 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful bikes!
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! They really are!
@casmitherz
@casmitherz 4 ай бұрын
^⁠_⁠^ You ain't homeless... You can sleep in the vapor blaster cabinet!! 😅 Spoiled! That's awesome... Wish I had one...
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
😂😂 nearly could! Thanks. I absolutely love having it
@casmitherz
@casmitherz 4 ай бұрын
@@motohomeless9168 Thx for the inspiration to actually work on my own Commando :⁠-⁠D It's on the list! Work safe my man.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Where are you located?
@casmitherz
@casmitherz 4 ай бұрын
@@motohomeless9168 San Luis Obispo CA. With the Commando- the bike I never thought I would own...
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Nice! Other side of the country from me
@timlawson7795
@timlawson7795 4 ай бұрын
Engineering that don’t exist anymore
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
It’s interesting
@576rl900
@576rl900 4 ай бұрын
The "bit that goes on the valve" is a lash cap. Typically these are not found on Nortons, but are sometimes used. The use of these will affect the geometry, sometimes necessitating shortening the pushrod. (Note: If buying new valves Commando valves have a longer stem than Atlas/P11/N15). I highly suggest washing the newly blasted head with Dawn dish liquid in enough hot water to totally immerse the head. I use spiral brushes to thoroughly clean the pushrod tunnels and a length of 'pipe cleaner' to scrub the oil drain holes. I like to do this twice, rinsing with clear water and compressed air after each wash. Most auto supply houses can supply the brushes.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Solid suggestions! I will find some brushes. I already ordered new valves, as I don’t want to deal with the unknown.
@576rl900
@576rl900 4 ай бұрын
Combat head ('72 750) and RH6 ('73 750) also used 32 X 32 mm inlet stubs and Amal 932 (32 mm) carburetors.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@robertshepherd3832
@robertshepherd3832 4 ай бұрын
What model # is the head stamped with? Approx serial # of engine being model/year? Have not seen that port size on an older block meaning you have a modified motor.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Can you e-mail me at [email protected]? I would like to talk about this.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
The head looks like it is stamped with "RC0" Thats not bringing anything up. I've got digital calipers ordered, so I can get an exact measurement on the ports. The engine number is correct for being a 1969 fastback. 131254
@robertshepherd3832
@robertshepherd3832 4 ай бұрын
In the brief shot of the cylinder head it looked like 32 mm ports which surprised me as I thought a '69 didn't even have 30mm but were ported for 28mm manifolds. I've rebuilt several Combats and Commandos but nothing this early. Good luck, you're on your way.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
I will measure them in an upcoming video!
@robertshepherd3832
@robertshepherd3832 4 ай бұрын
A '69 might have an RH1 head which have 28.5mm ports. Lot's of variations and mods over the years however.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
@@robertshepherd3832 Yeah, there's no telling what happened to it over the years. I can tell its been apart before. I'll measure soon. Send me an e-mail at [email protected] please! Lets talk there.
@steveaustin62
@steveaustin62 4 ай бұрын
It's looking good, one step at a time. I recommend portable scaffolding which may work out cheaper in the long run. I bought some recently and wish I'd done so decades ago.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Thats a pretty good idea. Thanks!
@timlawson7795
@timlawson7795 4 ай бұрын
Coming along very nicely.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Thanks. Slowly, but surely.
@Trumpulator
@Trumpulator 4 ай бұрын
💯👍
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Trumpulator
@Trumpulator 4 ай бұрын
💯👍
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Trumpulator
@Trumpulator 4 ай бұрын
💯👍
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Trumpulator
@Trumpulator 4 ай бұрын
💯👍
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@michael69040
@michael69040 4 ай бұрын
How many operational Square Fours are around in the USA today.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
That’s a good question. I really don’t know
@timlawson7795
@timlawson7795 4 ай бұрын
This is gonna be fun to watch!! The carbon really wasn’t bad at all on the head end.
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Yes. Not too bad!
@Helm-w1q
@Helm-w1q 4 ай бұрын
My cousin own one in the sixties. Compared to yours his was a rat bike. But it ran. Nice bike
@motohomeless9168
@motohomeless9168 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!