@@johncallandrillo3656 it really depends on the type of meat! Once venison gets beyond medium, it gets too dry and tough to genuinely enjoy. In our opinion, cook with a thermometer and remove from heat at 120 degrees F. Let it sit for 10 minutes lightly covered, cut and enjoy!

@@titleist1963 thanks for the support! Luckily, they tend to be more worried about us than we are of them!

@@johnsween7646 yesssirrrr one success at a time !

@@danielbellofatto we’ve had a great start. Hoping that’s foreshadowing the rest of the season. Thanks for the support!

Hey JC...thanks for the update! Since our last convo, I actually got on the phone with Dorge and spoke to him about AC2.0 as I have been interested in converting my AC1.0s to 2.0s. He agrees with you. AC2.0 is a tough build and doesn't give very much benefit over AC1.0 to most compound archers. He did say, however, that shorter draw lengths and/or lower poundage bows would benefit more from it than someone like myself shooting 70# at 27". Thanks again for the update...good luck this season!

@@WingAndTailOutdoors yeah but I wanted a heavier arrow so rather then starting over from scratch we just added the 2.0 to the back. Idk if my wife would see the difference. One she’s a relative new shooter, 2 she hasn’t shot a bunch, 3 it doesn’t matter what arrow set up she does have we keeping it under 25 yards any way. Before Dorge arrows build I’m reaching 120 yards and after I’m still reaching. Not saying his stuff doesn’t have a purpose but guys for hunting distance even 70-80 yards I didn’t gain and my groups aren’t that much better

@@jcscustomarchery8247 I think it’s a great idea to keep new shooters up close…it builds their confidence! If your groups are the same, that’s great! Just keep in mind that AC1&2 both allow an arrow to recover faster (8 ft vs 20 yards) as well as holding straighter on impact thus helping penetration at shorter and longer distances. Please share the results of your season with us if you can; we love success stories!

@@WingAndTailOutdoors a pass through is a pass through. I’ve never not gotten a pass through. So recovery rate is going to mean little to the masses I mean I have 5-6 year old kids getting pass through with G5 Montecs. I realize how and the struggle that Dorge is having

@@jcscustomarchery8247 that’s great! I hope you continue to see those successes. For Chris and Anthony, they both seen a flatter trajectory, straighter impacts, faster arrows, and tighter groups after switching to AC. But that’s what’s beautiful about archery it’s just like cars…there are many sports cars and they’re all fast, but everyone likes a different one and that’s okay!! That’s what makes it beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing your results and we wish you the best of luck this season!

@@jcscustomarchery8247 what’s up man?! Please let us know what you think! Chris has been thinking about going from AC1.0 to 2.0 and hasn’t pulled the trigger yet!

@@WingAndTailOutdoors it’s different to build very difficult. I’m also running arrow vane 2. So far I’m not sure if I’m seeing the benefit or the work that it takes to build these. We will see. I know what previous sight tape set up the the same grain arrow in a .246 with a blazer vane. Now out of a crossbow with aeroconcept 1.0 I did see a difference. It was 1’ higher than all the other arrows at 50 yards. So far they seem to shoot good but how hard is it to shoot field points? My groups on a .166 standard build I’m doing 1”-3” groups at 60 yards. So I’ll be curious to see if this matches it. My experience buy the straightest arrows you can buy and the most consistent spine. I have my opinions on why this won’t sell to the masses even if marketed well

@@jcscustomarchery8247 There sure is a learning curve to building these 😅 we’ve found that the bit of extra time it takes to make the arrows is worth the time saved having to insert tune and nock tune every arrow out on the range. Would you mind if I asked what you’re looking to get out of AC1.0 or 2.0?

@@WingAndTailOutdoors according to Dorge I should see an increase in yardage on my sight tape as the arrow is recovering faster. I can already reach out to 120-140 on my single pin with a .166 so going back to a .246 I should easily pick up yards. Insert tuning I do at the house. .003 straightness at the end of the of the shaft isn’t good. But it makes sense why he pushes it if yours arrow ends aren’t straight then it doesn’t matter. And I don’t mean the part where the insert sits if the arrow on the end is .006 you’ll have that no correcting it. But it when you shoot broadhead smaller then 1” it’s not going to show up as bad as 1.25,1.5. I’ve shot broadheads with no vanes out to 40 yards with no vanes with a .166, even smaller the revelation 3:16, these things didn’t show up. But I spine sort and arrow sort for straightness. The second issue is Dorge breaks the laws of logic for me and doesn’t stay logically consistent nor coherent when he gives his example and I think this is why he looses people.. for the average archer in Ga who don’t kill deer over 40 yards won’t see a benefit because according to his own study I don’t see gains till past 40 yards why am I going to spend the money. With AVII or III you are limited on broadheads. Stop combining the talking of target archery and hunting. For most of the customer I’ve dealt with in multiple states archery just gets them into the woods a little sooner beyond that they don’t care. But then you go in and tell them this arrow is better at a distance they won’t see it and oh stop shooting x broad heads

@@jcscustomarchery8247 I can certainly understand a lot of what you’re saying. But there’s something to be said about an arrow that recovers in 8 feet instead of 16-20 yards. You’re right…you won’t see much of a difference in POI under 50 yards…but you will see a difference in penetration at shorter yardages. However, you made a valid point in your previous comment; the faster the arrow, the more you will see a benefit in terms of POI at distance. Chris has never shot at 100 yards and like you, he’ll likely never shoot at a deer past 40/50 yards. But that improved recovery time is priceless! Either way, every archer has to believe in what they use in order to be confident, and we hope whatever you decide to use gives you that confidence going into the season!

@@brushcrawler8612 sorry to hear that man! What kind of food plot program are you running if you don’t mind me asking?

@@JBesq ahh man it was a heartbreaker! Certainly a humbling experience but we gained some experience to carry with us for the next time we have a similar situation. How’d you make out last season?

@@johndhead1 Sounds awesome! We are set up very similarly. We have a little over an acre across 4/5 different plots. One plot is made up of an old half and a newer half, so we manage them differently for now. I haven’t had any experience with Antler King; how have you liked your results? We’ve tried local seed, green cover seed, and Whitetail Institute planted mid to late July . So far, WTI seed has performed the best for us for the last two years.

With a crimper you may be able to move to buckwheat cover crop and then a brassica with peas 1/2 plot and 1/2 rye setup. Bulk cereal rye and buckwheat seeds available through Agway and brassica / peas from Northwoods whitetails. Buying bulk from Agway eliminates massive shipping costs from Northwoods and the buckwheat keeps the soil weed free, moist and cool until fall planting.

@@JBesq what’s up JB?! The crimper build is finally in the works and will be available for us for all our future plantings. We definitely need to figure out a summer planting for next year. We’ve tried buckwheat but it just doesn’t seem to take very well here. We’d love to give a go at a blend with soy beans and/or corn in it for the summer, but we’re not sure our soil gets warm enough early enough to swing it.

@@johndhead1 what’s up John?! We are located in eastern upstate New York somewhat even with the upper bound of PA. Are you located in New York as well?? Thanks for watching!

Yes. I have 70 acres in western NY. The closest village is Bliss. In Wyoming County

@@johndhead1 sounds awesome! Have you/do you run any food plots on your property? If so, what do you like to plant?

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!

@@lovetogun3611 I actually never thought to do that I’ll have to give it a shot! I have a tendency of getting stuff caught when I’m climbing steps…I even had to switch to a more slimline bino harness so I wouldn’t get it stuck on the sticks while I was climbing. Thanks for watching !!

@@randywatt-u9e Hi Randy…thanks for watching and for your feedback! When you say you’re using 1/8” amsteel…are you referring to the daisy chain? I’m using 8mm ropes right now and using the “Chinese finger trap” method of locking the sticks to the tree. I’ve been considering trying out the daisy chains…have you tried them out at all??

@@WingAndTailOutdoors it's the rope that came with the skeletor sticks. The sticks have a crossing pattern to lock them in not a versa button. I have tried daisy chains. They did not seem work as good on my sticks as what came with them. Now the daisy chain did work great on the seeker platform I have. Also hangfreeco has some attachment that seem to work good. Hfas I think. It really seems to be a lot of trail and error, more error but after working on it for a little over a year I feel like I'm getting close to a system that works for me. Most of my time has been in the yard and not in the woods due to a surgery last year but I think I'm really going to like hunting out of a saddle.

@@randywatt-u9e OHHH!! Okay I’m with you now! I would need that button replacement to make that work. I agree I think in time I/we will grow to love the saddle as well we just have to get used to it. I went through the same process with a climber and again in a hang on, but #CommitmentBreedsSuccess so come hunting season, I’ll be ready 🤙🏼🤙🏼

@@matthewcalhoun4867 Thanks for the insight…We’ll look into those for sure! I’m wondering if it’s the diameter of the ropes or the angle I have them at also. May be worth looking into the daisy chains 🤔 Thanks for watching!

@@ianmcvaigh6025 you’re not wrong 🤣 I can usually get up and set up in about 15-20 without any gear issues…but that’s why we practice early and work the kinks out!! Thanks for watching!

@@ichetuckneeoutfitters thanks man! Trying to give a real-world view wherever we can…thanks for watching!

Thanks for your insight! We really did love the R100 at G&H this year…my brother and I are members at Lincoln Park Archers in Towaco, NJ. We have a shoot this Sunday you should come down!

@@WingAndTailOutdoors Thank you. I look up the directions. Have a awesome day

Thanks for sharing! I like to rest my hat on what the results of my shots tell me. We’ve shot all types of arrow builds. High FOC, heavy and balanced, light and fast. Personally, since switching over to AeroConcept 1.0, I’ve experienced more perpendicular impact (when shooting from the ground,) tighter groups, and deeper impacts when compared to other arrows of the same weight. Fun story quick- I once shot a high FOC arrow through a double-walled steel drum. While the arrow did in fact penetrate the drum, it stopped only 6 inches in due to the rear of the arrow bouncing back and forth on impact. We could literally hear the arrow bouncing against the arrow hole as it was trying to go through. You also make a great point about the arrow being “parallel” to the path of travel which is absolutely correct. I forgot to add that in when I was recording in real time. Arrows shot from a tree should not be horizontal to the ground 🤣

@@WingAndTailOutdoors I'm not saying the resonant frequency benefits don't exist (they very likely do) but the aerodynamic benefits are largely overstated or just not supported by evidence. I've also ordered a set from Exodus and found them exactly comparable to standard arrows of the same GPI and FOC. Wasn't impressed, really.

I can't edit replies for some reason. Additionally, you can "tune" the resonant frequency with spine and FOC. This has many effects. Any arrow shot into a drum will resonate and ring, and how quickly it dampens has a lot of factors. Harmonic node location in relation to penetration depth, for example. It's really hard to make an objective comparison when you have so many variables that are hard to measure.

@@YoureSoVane yes exactly! There are too many variables to do a truly side-by-side comparison! And the truth is, everything is “in theory” until the arrow hits the animal, right? So with that in mind, we all have our own data from previous successes and failures and make decisions based off of them. At the end of the day, as long as our arrow hits where we aim, and we’re happy with the performance of our arrow (ie penetration, flight, accuracy, etc) that’s whats most important and what will build our confidence. In our specific situation, we saw flight characteristics that we did not like in the past, and switching to AeroConcept 1.0 is what alleviated those issues while also reducing the amount of tuning time it took to get the arrows shooting as desired. I absolutely love learning and building my knowledge base. You seem to have a lot of insight into arrow flight. Would you have any interest in joining us on our podcast for a conversation in hunting and arrow flight? We’re scheduled to launch in early July and we’re trying to get some guests lined up!

I had a blast doing it! We’d love to have you back on sometime soon to dive deeper into the benefits of AeroConcept!

Thanks for the feedback, John! Is there a specific topic or "issue" you'd like to hear us talk about on our channel? Feel free to let us know!

Thanks for watching! Appreciate the support!

The frog line got me 🤣🤣 thanks for the feedback! I hope I did the tour justice 🤞🏼

Thank you!! Anything you'd like to see in the future?

@jasonpeek1884 Hey Jason…thanks for tuning in! I think I roller could work well if we were to spray with glyphosate prior and then roll over everything after it’s died standing. For the living stuff, we need something with an edge to break (but not cut) the stems in order for the plants to terminate. What we had considered doing was welding some angle steel to a steel lawn roller to make our own crimper. However we do it, we plan on having a DIY crimper ready to go for spring. Have you tried a roller on any fields yourself?

@WingAndTailOutdoors thanks for the info. And no haven't tried to do. Have been researching how to best do a food plot and take care of. So the videos definitely help out thanks.

@@jasonpeek1884 of course…glad to help! I personally want to try and reduce as many inputs as possible (chemicals, fertilizer, lime, etc.) on our property. However if you’re looking for ease and you already have a roller, spray killing is certainly an easy way to manage your plots. As long as you kill it standing and then roll it over, you’ll achieve the same outcome. However, keep in mind that glyphosate works BEST when the plant has live leaves and is no taller than 4”. After it grows past 4”, the kill rate of the glyphosate drops 35%. Good luck and keep us posted on your plots!

I use a lawn roller and spray works great.

@@Jamax99Jetfan yup! A lawn roller and spray can and will work very well. If food plot growth is your only concern, there's nothing wrong with this method. However, if you also want to decrease inputs (glyphosate, fertilizer, etc.) then a roller alone isn't quite enough. Your end goal will help decide with methods are best for you individually. Happy plotting and happy hunting!!

@JBesq So then you’d say as long as we have stones and pebbles and not a field of rocks, it would hold up well? My brother and I are gearing up to build our own crimper before next spring, so I’m hoping to get a video up of that whole process. Our soil is pretty wet as well but with a solid layer of ground cover now, we’re expecting the combination of moisture and soil protection from the sun to sustain everything until we get some more rain our way. When I was up there a few days ago it looked like we had great germination, so fingers crossed it produces! Be sure to keep us posted on your progress!

Hi Chris. Sorry didn’t see the reply. Threw some (100#) rye out this last Friday 9/8. So far so good. Oats rye forage radish side of plot is booming. Brassica side I seeded a bit too thick but it’s looking good. Added in some urea to the brassicas. About two weeks ago I hit the entire acre with clover for spring. Had some issues with two other strips where I planted Nwoods whitetail HD screen so will prob spray most of those strips down and frost seed some switchgrass and leave room for miscanthus next spring. Have two beyond micro spots in woods I threw some domain green machine on and they are cranking. All in all no signs of deer in the plots but last year they didn’t hit anything until late October. Good luck!

@@JBesq All good JB glad to hear about the success so far! We have the same issue three years in a row now; deer hammer our fields all summer, activity dies down in August and is almost non-existent September into October. My guess is that around that time, there’s some kind of tree nut or woody browse the deer prefer that’s pulling them off. I’m confident our plots have more attractive varieties than the plots in our area so I don’t think plots on other properties are the issue. We also plan on using either switch or miscanthus (the type that’s sterile) for screens but we’re going to apply those after the rest of our plots are cut into the property. As for your micro plots, how do they do with your deer pressure? My brother and I have found some sweet low-cost methods of fencing our plots. We didn’t do any fencing this season but we plan on it next. Keep up the good work!

Thank you!

It’s sounds like the deer are falling into place for you! Typically those doe want to bed within 30 yards of a food source (especially if they have fawns) and then the bucks settle a little ways behind them, so seems you have the beginning ingredients to pattern them up! This is just the “now” overview of the property, and we have an overall “5 year plan” if you will for the property transformation. Video coming out on that soon. Thanks for tuning in!

@@WingAndTailOutdoors All good stuff. I finally got to opening the canopy this year and doing some TSI to get some ground cover growing between bedding and food. Little by slowly it’s all coming along but without guys like you doing these vids I’d be lost. Thank you.

@@JBesq most important of all is to do what you can, when you can, however you can do it…thanks for the input! Anything you’d like to see in a future video?

@@WingAndTailOutdoors I’m glad to watch your vids. I think you’re doing a great job and can’t imagine filming and doing what I’m doing so my hat is off to you. Informational videos on equipment and chemicals or fertilizer or seed is lacking out there. Most gloss over the seeding rates etc.

@@JBesq For sure! I’ve been meaning to put a video together showing how to calculate the “pure live seed” value (aka the seeding rate) so I’ll try to get it done soon…I’ll add equipment to the list as well…thanks so much for your input!

Hey thanks JB...good luck to you as well! I know it! That's why I figured why not share my NY experience with everyone else. Our property is in eastern NY. We thought about turning it up, but it's just rocks on top of rocks so we think it would make it worse. Hope to see you on a future video!

@@WingAndTailOutdoors Thank you. I grow rocks as well and after running the subsoiler with tractor and then a chain drag with quad many came up but I took a couple of buckets with me and picked them. Big ones and many many trips to the wood line later I got it fairly clear. The bonus was that it was a great workout. I have some topsoil on top of clay with with rocks and shale but there has been a sea change in drainage and my buckwheat cover crop took off this year compared to last. Next spring I’ll likely rip the entire field and not just the acre plot despite the rock workout. Did get a decent sized tractor and if you use a subsoiler then be sure to match the subsoiler that is rated for your tractor HP. Running a split plot with buckwheat cover followed by fall greens ( followed by top dressing of rye ) and other half brassicas and winter peas. It is only my second year doing this so I’m no expert. Good luck.

@@JBesq Sounds like a never-ending leg day 🤣 we found out there’s a shake graveyard under the one field…it’s like they buried every rock they found in the cabin area right under that field. If you have stuff growing, that’s priority number one! Next season, you could try mixing all those seeds together and planting rather than having them separate. Find the average of the fertilizer requirements between the seeds and apply at planting. When they’re planted together, there’s a sub-soil relationship between them that help to make the food a bit more attractive. I’m no scientist so I can’t explain why, BUT it works lol.

@@WingAndTailOutdoors Thank you. My shale and rocks are never ending and every frost heave seems to send more up but I’m hoping with soil building and the ripping that eventually it’ll be more soil than rocks. I’m just a weekend warrior but I’ve read that cereal rye (and winter oats to a lesser degree) is allopathic and with brassicas in the beginning stages will be stunted by it. So I’ve been planting winter peas with the brassicas as the peas fix nitrogen below surface which brassicas need. I did mix some forage radish in with the winter greens this year so we will see. I’m in Ag country near herkimer so it’s fierce competition with everyone having acres of fields. Keep the vids coming!

@@JBesq I heard that too in the beginning but there’s a ton of literature out there that shows grasses have their place in a mix. The grasses will pop first and the deer will eat those, giving the brassicas and legumes the time they need to be able to grow. If you saw the progress photos at the end of this video, those thick growing plots have 13 or so different plants, and they all took off. Today the fields are taller than our biggest deer’s back and the brassicas and legumes are coming up nicely! If you’re in agg country, take a ride and see what they’re planting and try to plant some stuff they don’t have…give the deer a solid reason to hit your food plots. Whatever you choose to do…have fun with it!