E4. NEW YORK NO -TILL FALL Food Plots 2023

[@WingAndTailOutdoors]

@JBesq What's up JB...so sorry but I had some audio issues so I had to repost yet again. Not sure if you've seen my previous two replies, but I remember what you had mentioned in your comments. We've been thinking about getting the packermaxx, but we've been hesitant since it's not steel and our ground is very rocky in some places. How has your packer held up/functioned on your rockier terrain? Also, rather than purchasing a full-sized crimper, you may want to check out the crimper attachment packermaxx has available as an attachment on their cultipacker. Rye and Oats are already included in the mix we planted, so they're on the ground! As for overwintering, a few of the seeds that are in our mix will do that for us as they did this past spring. As long as the roots take, those roots will live through winter and regrow when spring comes. We will also be frost seeding a half-rate mixture of clover and grasses to try and get ahead of the weeds! Lastly, I included a bit towards the end of the video (check out the chapters) where I show how the brassicas grew amongst the grasses.

[@JBesq]

Thanks so much. Was about to comment again that I was I caught in a time loop seeing the same vid over and over. Haha. Will check out that crimper attachment. The packermaxx I have does well but I have picked a mountain of rocks out of my main plot. It has taken some beatings though. If you have a shot at all steel for a good price there’s no comparison save weight when empty and ease of transport (ie wheel kit works well even when full). Congrats on the brassicas. I put some foliar spray ( plot boost) on them today. Ground has been bit too wet. Held off on any rye layering as it looks rainless near me for next 7-8 days.

[@WingAndTailOutdoors]

@JBesq So then you’d say as long as we have stones and pebbles and not a field of rocks, it would hold up well? My brother and I are gearing up to build our own crimper before next spring, so I’m hoping to get a video up of that whole process. Our soil is pretty wet as well but with a solid layer of ground cover now, we’re expecting the combination of moisture and soil protection from the sun to sustain everything until we get some more rain our way. When I was up there a few days ago it looked like we had great germination, so fingers crossed it produces! Be sure to keep us posted on your progress!

[@JBesq]

Hi Chris. Sorry didn’t see the reply. Threw some (100#) rye out this last Friday 9/8. So far so good. Oats rye forage radish side of plot is booming. Brassica side I seeded a bit too thick but it’s looking good. Added in some urea to the brassicas. About two weeks ago I hit the entire acre with clover for spring. Had some issues with two other strips where I planted Nwoods whitetail HD screen so will prob spray most of those strips down and frost seed some switchgrass and leave room for miscanthus next spring. Have two beyond micro spots in woods I threw some domain green machine on and they are cranking. All in all no signs of deer in the plots but last year they didn’t hit anything until late October. Good luck!

[@WingAndTailOutdoors]

@@JBesq All good JB glad to hear about the success so far! We have the same issue three years in a row now; deer hammer our fields all summer, activity dies down in August and is almost non-existent September into October. My guess is that around that time, there’s some kind of tree nut or woody browse the deer prefer that’s pulling them off. I’m confident our plots have more attractive varieties than the plots in our area so I don’t think plots on other properties are the issue. We also plan on using either switch or miscanthus (the type that’s sterile) for screens but we’re going to apply those after the rest of our plots are cut into the property. As for your micro plots, how do they do with your deer pressure? My brother and I have found some sweet low-cost methods of fencing our plots. We didn’t do any fencing this season but we plan on it next. Keep up the good work!

[@jasonpeek1884]

Do you think a yard roller would work instead of foot crimper?

[@WingAndTailOutdoors]

@jasonpeek1884 Hey Jason…thanks for tuning in! I think I roller could work well if we were to spray with glyphosate prior and then roll over everything after it’s died standing. For the living stuff, we need something with an edge to break (but not cut) the stems in order for the plants to terminate. What we had considered doing was welding some angle steel to a steel lawn roller to make our own crimper. However we do it, we plan on having a DIY crimper ready to go for spring. Have you tried a roller on any fields yourself?

[@jasonpeek1884]

@WingAndTailOutdoors thanks for the info. And no haven't tried to do. Have been researching how to best do a food plot and take care of. So the videos definitely help out thanks.

[@WingAndTailOutdoors]

@@jasonpeek1884 of course…glad to help! I personally want to try and reduce as many inputs as possible (chemicals, fertilizer, lime, etc.) on our property. However if you’re looking for ease and you already have a roller, spray killing is certainly an easy way to manage your plots. As long as you kill it standing and then roll it over, you’ll achieve the same outcome. However, keep in mind that glyphosate works BEST when the plant has live leaves and is no taller than 4”. After it grows past 4”, the kill rate of the glyphosate drops 35%. Good luck and keep us posted on your plots!

[@Jamax99Jetfan]

I use a lawn roller and spray works great.

[@WingAndTailOutdoors]

@@Jamax99Jetfan yup! A lawn roller and spray can and will work very well. If food plot growth is your only concern, there's nothing wrong with this method. However, if you also want to decrease inputs (glyphosate, fertilizer, etc.) then a roller alone isn't quite enough. Your end goal will help decide with methods are best for you individually. Happy plotting and happy hunting!!