I prefer this ending over siding with Mia. The Smoke Jaguar Clan is ruthless and committed war crimes, especially when Commander Cordera Perez ordered the massacre at Turtle Bay. This situation makes you question your motives: Are you fighting to become a cold tyrant, or are you trying to liberate worlds from clan invasion? To me, this is canon.
@MartagasmСағат бұрын
Me too. it's nice to see character development that doesn't involve slaughtering more civvies 😂
@SoranPryde16 сағат бұрын
The difference between the two paths is shown in Jayden's helmet In Ezra's path, his helmet in Wolf's Dragoons also has the 5 stars insignia that Nasir drew into his original helmet. Meaning that he remembers the unity and friendship of his Star mates In Mia's path, his helmet no longer has that 5 stars insignia. He is a loyal Smoke Jaguar warrior, but in the end he has lost his way
@Martagasm14 сағат бұрын
well put!
@Michael-io3ik18 сағат бұрын
word of blake reference?
@Martagasm18 сағат бұрын
I don't believe so bud. At least not a reference to the faction as it became when the more fanatical elements of comstar left the order following Foct's reforms. Tbh this scene would benefit greatly from the in game dialogue for the mission prior for context (which is something i'm slowly getting towards honest 😅)
@adrianperkinsyeet750022 сағат бұрын
Lol bro
@Gyrozeppeli-1891Күн бұрын
What was that fart bro
@MartagasmКүн бұрын
heresy leaving the body 😂
@EmilioGonsalez-d4k2 күн бұрын
This is my favorite ending. I’m not doing the second ending, and I completely hate every minute of it. Well for the clans, we will come back one day back to the Innosphere. Save ending.
@woodwyrm2 күн бұрын
o7 Mad props to that Ryugawa Bushi standing guard while Edo burned around him! DEATH BEFORE DISHONOUR!
@ratatosk0012 күн бұрын
You are Smoke Jaguar, weakest of Clans, rejected by Kerensky, doomed to falter and bring only folly to the universe. Your strength is frail, your resolve broken, your destiny lost in the ashes of battle, drenched in the blood of your own defeat. You will falter, you will fail, for you are the shadow that fades in the light, and you are destined to fall.
@briansmith2739Сағат бұрын
And the most brutal, the Innersphere isn't going to forget about the Massacre at Turtle Bay.
@woodwyrm2 күн бұрын
fuckin glory hound Cordera Perez, that is
@Martagasm2 күн бұрын
indeed!
@explorer474222 күн бұрын
Who knew this game series had so much lore? Literally first MechWarrior video I've seen, for some reason I thought it was some mobile game??
@Martagasm2 күн бұрын
more lore than you could shake a stick at luv! And one of the best wiki's by far! sarna.net is where it's at!
@FPAlpha2 күн бұрын
His final, quiet Ez? after he blew him up somehow gets me. It's like after all the anger and shouting he still mourns the loss of a brother.
@Martagasm2 күн бұрын
it is a great moment for sure
@christopherofarrell86653 күн бұрын
I LOVE how they brought back the same dialogue from the Trial of Position in Mechwarrior 2 for the instructor. It is just so great! But I snicker at some of the rest. "He's a ground pounder, I'm better at hit-and-fade engagements" ... dude, *you are in a frigen Dire Wolf and he's in a Hellbringer with wet tissue paper for armour!*
@Martagasm2 күн бұрын
In the game's defence i should have been in something lighter but it is still funny 🤣
@Specter50533 күн бұрын
That's one "MAD" cat.
@Martagasm3 күн бұрын
@@Specter5053 That's a gold star for you!
@Hendrik.Eijsberg3 күн бұрын
Mackenzie Wolf looks like Freddy Mercury the Mechwarrior
@Martagasm3 күн бұрын
We will rock you is now in my head and will always play whenever Mackenzie shows up in my playthroughs 🤣
@Kaiserhawk3 күн бұрын
"It's only a matter of time before they bring their greed and their never-ending wars to our doorsteps! So we should bring *our* greed and never-ending wars to theirs!"
@Martagasm3 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@RyanEX20004 күн бұрын
The main problem with this game is that they had you play the Smoke Jaguars...while not BEING Smoke Jaguars. The first red flag was the guy requesting a transfer to being a scientist...that's not how ANY Clan works. And it's even worse in SJ since they take the "trueborn" things to the extreme and view all non trueborns as trash. Most other Clans see value in Scientits and Mechanics and sometimes even the Merchants castes...but Smoke Jaguar is either warrior or you're a waste. Second was their reaction to the prisoners on the first planet. Again...Smoke Jaguars and how they regard freeborns. It was ridiculously out of character. You don't pitch playing the Clan that values only their eugenics program and not have them act in an appropriate manner.
@Martagasm4 күн бұрын
Maybe they wanted to give them a bit of redeemability and/or make the characters somewhat approachable so to speak. but yeah, this sibko did seem quite mellow for what the Smoke Jaguars represent
@rustyshackleford15084 күн бұрын
They spent so much money on the cutscenes and they all still look like uncanny meat puppets. Absolute waste of money, thanks again PGI.
@Martagasm4 күн бұрын
we wouldn't have gotten Mackenzie's devilish grin other wise so i'm okay with it lol
@mhirroaceroyportillo8754 күн бұрын
11:45 We’re into the third millenium and we’re still using F-16/A-10 sticks
@Martagasm4 күн бұрын
Can't say i've ever flown let alone flown a fighter jet but i'm guessing if it aint broke don't fix it? 😂
@archades3 күн бұрын
Thrustmaster factory on Terra still busy after all these years.
@patrickligot51004 күн бұрын
Who was with Mackenzie?
@Martagasm4 күн бұрын
A mechwarrior by the name of Samantha. I assume she was added in for the game and not in the lore per se but i'd have to check
@TheME2Legion4 күн бұрын
3:20 I love this part
@Martagasm4 күн бұрын
it sets the tone quite nicely for sure
@jla8724 күн бұрын
If my memory serves me right, Turtle Bay was meant to be left as nothing more than glassy slag via orbital bombardment. Sure, the destruction shown was vast, but if building foundations are still left standing, then it feels the Jaguars weren't "thorough" enough like they were supposed to. Do I need to remind anyone that the sheer destruction and brutality of the events on Edo sealed the fate of the Smoke Jaguars as the chosen Clan to be destroyed by the Inner Sphere? It should have been more Brutal.
@Martagasm4 күн бұрын
in terms of the visuals moar is always better and it could have been more brutal and had more flattened as well as gutted buildings but i still got the point that the Smoke Jaguar leadership were callous and vindictive
@trini_staple4 күн бұрын
That wasn't the factor that led to the Jaguars being chosen. The Wolves and Jade Falcons had just fought the Refusal War and were considered weak at that point. The coalition decided it needed to fight a strong opponent or they wouldn't be taken seriously. The Ghost Bears had switched their stance from Crusaders to Wardens so they were off the table since it was the Crusaders pushing for a renewed invasion & the Nova Cats were considered a non factor. That left the Smoke Jaguars by default; a strong Crusader Clan.
@ArchAngelWC5 күн бұрын
So...in MW5 CSJ are inept as fk... They get told that the SLDF forces that didn't join them joined Comstar...dont process that...they get told about WoB don't process that...they know Ezra defected to the WDs which means WDs are operating in Kurita space and yet don't expect them at Luthien.. And the glorious Mia...a clan warrior so inept that she needs implants to compete with surats
@Martagasm4 күн бұрын
Aside from the Word of Blake as an independent faction not existing yet, unless i minsunderstood your point in which case sozz, i get what you're saying. I would give them some slight forgiveness for not expecting the Dragoons to be on Luthien because of the Death to Mercenaries thang but at the same time they should have been more sus about their being nearby for sure.
@ArchAngelWC4 күн бұрын
@@Martagasm it tips the Toyama faction which is basically the cult that forms into WoB so....CSJ Knows that Comstar has SLDF equipment ...and that there is a cult inside of comstar that will aid/abet the the murder of non-followers murdering former SLDF personnel who joined to try to preserve what they could
@Juanconstantine5 күн бұрын
1:30 it's the most famous merc peter pool of the wolf's dragoons.
@Tech-Kaplan-Kali5 күн бұрын
Is this some kind of joke?
@Martagasm5 күн бұрын
Wanna elaborate bud?
@Tech-Kaplan-Kali5 күн бұрын
@@Martagasm refuse your what?
@Martagasm5 күн бұрын
@@Tech-Kaplan-Kali you referencing the cartoon bud? if so it took me longer to get than i'd like to admit 😂
@Kaiserhawk3 күн бұрын
You dare refuse my Batchall?
@Martagasm3 күн бұрын
@@Kaiserhawk fun fact i live in an actual Somerset🤣
@MrTBSC5 күн бұрын
little sidenote: i love how both ezra and jayden drop the "no-contractions"- rule when talking with Mackenzie Wolf, Jayden does however keep it when talking with Naomi
@Martagasm5 күн бұрын
i swore i responded to this earlier! i do like it as well :)
@Berek711825 күн бұрын
14:02 We could clearly see something breaking inside Jayden.
@Martagasm5 күн бұрын
i liked the show of emotion to the news of his sibkins death
@Gozokukolat6 күн бұрын
Wow... SO much wrong with this cut scene. Did the writers even read a clan wars era book?
@Martagasm6 күн бұрын
which part? informal circle of equals were a thing, this particluar star were quite closely bonded and they wanted tocreat esome drama/tension in the story is it really as bad as you're trying to make out bud? 😂
@Gozokukolat5 күн бұрын
@@Martagasm They're not clan warriors. If a guy gets left behind he'd be considered a bondsman or dead (and better dead so his genes could live on). The Jags were notoriously vicious like that. There is no going back for a rescue unless you're some filthy surrat freebirth scum like the innies. Emo girl DOES have standing, unless calling her a mechwarrior is supposed to be ironic. The duel would not be on the flight line as that is a busy place where a fight would jeopardize rearm/refit procedure. They would take it to the gym on ship or draw a circle in the dirt ground side. There would be additional punishment for the loser girl. Med techs would've already be there and taken custody of injured bro. And this is only from this one cut scene.
@Martagasm5 күн бұрын
@@Gozokukolat i just accidentally cleared my intitial message bud so i'm just going to respond with, they are clan warriors they passed their trial of position, a cirlce of equals can be as informal as the challenged wants and the punishment if any would also be down to them or perhaps their superior officer depending on the circumstances. you are absolutely allowed to not like how they are portrayed but your passing what you WANT it to be as how it HAS to be is rather tiresome. Please just hit the dislike button in future bud i want to reply to comments as much as i can but this was really tiresome. ( I'm not going to respond to any further walls of text from you bud please take this as politely as i'm trying to make it)
@woodwyrmКүн бұрын
Well it is the Dawsons Creek of Operation REVIVAL lmao
@guyhahs84746 күн бұрын
If you can get there. Love the story but missions suck.
@Martagasm6 күн бұрын
I did find some of the missions drag a little aka here's another five waves of enemies after where the mission really should have ended 😅
@brandonvortex9956 күн бұрын
The jags enjoyed their moment of triumph until operation serpent and bulldog
@Martagasm6 күн бұрын
Yup they deffo received an inner sphere paddling
@brandonvortex9956 күн бұрын
@@Martagasm and they shows them, the true horrors of wars as practiced in inner sphere
@wolfpreistКүн бұрын
Good riddance to clan Smoked Jaguar
@MartagasmКүн бұрын
@@wolfpreist 😂
@UthicКүн бұрын
@@brandonvortex995Always find that boast sort of weird when you consider the damage the Succession wars did. The First Succession War knocked the IS back centuries
@MrTBSC6 күн бұрын
"zellbrigand" .... 🤦♂ it's zellbrigen also still calling jayden starcommander after his promotion to star captain 🤦♂🤦♂
@Martagasm6 күн бұрын
@@MrTBSC yeah, I feel like there must have been two directors for the voice actors one good one bad as well as some rushed recording involved for some scenes
@barbarossarotbart6 күн бұрын
Well, I remember from the novel that the battle of Radstadt in whcih IlKhan Leo showers was killed was much bigger than that what we we see here.
@Martagasm6 күн бұрын
i assume budgetary and time constraints were involved unfotunately
@petrameyer11216 күн бұрын
Cool, they use the animated series head implants.
@Martagasm6 күн бұрын
quite cool looking visuals for the enhanced imaging implants🙂
@Ugnutz6 күн бұрын
The thing i love about the Animated Series is that from a canonical stand point is actually in universe propaganda made by the Federated Commonwealth government.
@Martagasm6 күн бұрын
@@Ugnutz it is great how they showed it the love by making it a part of the canon that way!
@barbarossarotbart6 күн бұрын
Minor nitpick: according to the original novels (the Blood of Kerensky-trilogy) and the origianl BattleTech sourcebooks, Natasha Kerensky was the ONLY member of Wolf's Dragoons to return to Clan Wolf and only because she was bloodnamed. All others did not return, because thye were too old to be accepted as warriors by any of the Clans. Natasha was born in 2973! She was 30/31 when Wolf's Dragoons arrived in the Inner Sphere and 76/77 when the Clan Invasion began. Even the youngest trueborn who joined the Dragoons would have been in his 60s.
@Martagasm6 күн бұрын
i did notice that as well either a whoopsy on their part or they decided to add a spin to it but i assume a whoops tbh
@barbarossarotbart6 күн бұрын
@@Martagasm I've forgot to add the reason for her return: the recall of all bloodnamed warriors to Strana Mechty after the death of the IlKhan.
@rustyshackleford15084 күн бұрын
@@Martagasm simple, they ignored their own lore
@Martagasm4 күн бұрын
@@rustyshackleford1508 ignored, got wrong, decided to tweak a little to suit what they were trying to do here. i personally am never going to whine about a change in how the lore is presented in a new piece of media until i hear straight from the devlopers/writers mouths why they chose what they did. 👍
@Athrun823 күн бұрын
The thing is according to the lore Wolf Dragoons had a few bloodnamed warriors among their initial ranks (even from other clans though those were "outcasts". Though I think most of them died in their decades of service. But from the Wolves trueborns only Natasha returned. And most wolves thought she would simply fail her retrial. Which just goes to show that the Clans don't value battle experience from their warriors once they reach a certain age and have no success on their records
@sanetby6 күн бұрын
almost a bt movie 😁 i would also add some "in-game" scripted scenes as well, for example the one where the madcat kills jaiden during the trial of position
@Martagasm6 күн бұрын
not a bad shout to be fair. this was my first, and admittedly very janky, attempt at getting the cutscenes for a game uploaded to my channel but i will deffo look to add the in game scenes to my channel at some point hopefully soon!
@sanetby6 күн бұрын
this ending is much better than the dragoons one
@woodwyrm6 күн бұрын
Eh I like the Dragoons more, after all, what is a Clanner without his honor?
@Martagasm5 күн бұрын
i did like the Dragoons arc more tbh...not just because of Mackenzie Wolf's facial expressions in the thumbnails though i will admit looking at them cracks me up, honest guv'nor!
@Martagasm5 күн бұрын
Fair enough you prefer Mia's arc. Alexander's scene about his sibkin was quite good.
@ssjjshawn7 күн бұрын
The True Path Hopefully he died in Bulldog/Serpent instead of becoming Fidelis and the Pet Cemetery Smoke Jaguars
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
🤣
@darkspire917 күн бұрын
I can't stand how the Star Colonel has her lip swollen out so much. She looks like she got a bad botox job.
@hobog7 күн бұрын
5:08 the downed drop ship should have fallen in front of the other two because they're burning to slow down! The animators goofed
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
definitely some bits in the game that feel like they needed to spend a minute double checking things but i do overall like the game :)
@alessiogiovannetti5132 күн бұрын
@@Martagasmmaybe it was falling forward and from our pov looked up?
@Martagasm2 күн бұрын
@@alessiogiovannetti513 mebbe!
@Specter50537 күн бұрын
Feel like the beginning is a reference to the opening of mechwarrior 2, where you get the different speeches about Clan Wolf or Jade Falcon.
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
i haven't played that one unfortunately but it's great it feels like a reference to the older games.
@Specter50536 күн бұрын
@Martagasm Game is abandonware, and you would have to do some sorcery to get it running on a modern computer. There are plenty of guides on how to run it around here, I'm sure. One of the first games I played.
@Martagasm6 күн бұрын
@@Specter5053 well that sounds like a plan!
@OptimusWombat7 күн бұрын
I'm impressed that in the dialogue they remembered that Clanners don't use contractions.
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
i was pleased they remembered that as well
@uwillnevahno68377 күн бұрын
I don't recall anger being a central theme to the Clan's in the books. Contempt for what they considered an inferior enemy sure.
@OptimusWombat7 күн бұрын
Think of it more as righteous anger.
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
The Smoke Jaguars were also one of if not the most aggressive invading clans as well.Contempt and anger do go hand in hand for a lot of things tbf :)
@coyotePAC37 күн бұрын
I love this scene - it excuses having the main characters in the same unit but it's 100% lore accurate
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
it is a great scene and it is good they addressed why they put the sibkin together
@ordo_draigo_assault_ham7 күн бұрын
Comstar called. Either the Cloudy Kittens pay their cable bill or come to Tukayyid to discuss it.
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
being in a warrior focused cutlure and getting your ass handed to you by the space telephone company is hella funny
@horusrage5 күн бұрын
@@Martagasm They didn't pay their internet minutes.
@Martagasm5 күн бұрын
@@horusrage 🤣
@waltcallies90197 күн бұрын
Good quality, thanks for this
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
@@waltcallies9019 Thank you!
@remanscimitar7 күн бұрын
Can't wait to see how the DLC(s) follow suit on the endings. Also gotta do Mia ending sadly, but get to see both sides of Operation Dragonslayer at least.
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
@@remanscimitar I felt the same!
@22xjake7 күн бұрын
I honestly felt that the cutscenes were done better in Mia's path. Alexanders scene in particular
@monsterhiddenfromthesun2107 күн бұрын
I just can't wait for Tukayyid.
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
@@22xjake I did like Alexanders scene for sure
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
@@monsterhiddenfromthesun210 it's gonna be fun, well, not for the clans but for the rest of us 🤣
@drpain5227 күн бұрын
Ive noticed some of the lip synching across this game is really bad, and other times the audio mixing levels are way off, like at 3:09 her voice doesnt sound right at all. Im curious what happened in this department of development
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
me too!
@RumblesBettr7 күн бұрын
What mission is when you have to choose. I havent got to it yet
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
It is on the planet Courchevel and the mission name is Reckoning. You will get the two options to pick from near the last part of the mission
@RumblesBettr7 күн бұрын
@@Martagasm thanks!
@uwillnevahno68377 күн бұрын
Weren't the Clans basically space nazis in the books?
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
more hypocritical and full of themselves though some took the percieved superiority of their eugenics program to extremes. definitely self righteous arseholes though 😂
@OptimusWombat7 күн бұрын
No, what makes you think that?
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
@@OptimusWombat they have a focus on eugenics and a strong sense of superiority over other creeds it's not an impossible comparison to understand. though again, it would mostly be the hardliner crusader clans who are dabblin'
@OptimusWombat7 күн бұрын
@@Martagasm yes, to a certain extent, but at the same time they also believe that every individual within the Clan (caveat: as long as they're productive - even if that means they're old and decrepit and only good for wiping off both ends of a SibKid) has a place within the Clan and a role to play. Their Eugenics program focused on selective breeding, but it was never about mass genocide. Even when the Jaguars glassed Turtle Bay with an orbital bombardment, it was about punishing the populace for assisting in Hohiro's escape and the open rebellion that had erupted.
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
@@OptimusWombat to a certain extent is exactly the point i was going with bud :)
@ALV6947 күн бұрын
This is much better than mia's path
@ShasOFish7 күн бұрын
Oddly enough, it also has precedent in the lore too. There’s at least one Smoke Jaguar who joined up with Wolf’s Dragoons in the previously published lore.
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
I agree!
@MrTBSC6 күн бұрын
@@ShasOFish interesting 🤔
@spireland56 күн бұрын
The problem with this path is it really didn’t make sense. It came out of nowhere. I really can’t see these clan warriors all agreeing to do this. One, maybe. All 4 seemed like fanfic
@MrTBSC6 күн бұрын
@@spireland5 first off yuichi is a bondsman .. he may not exactly care, he just wants to find his place he fits into Naomi as she says herself was pretty much screwed over by her former star commander and close to becoming solama and that aside from her also having a more critical view on things soooo yea it does make enough sense when two of the team don't exactly have to lose much and the other two just simply agreeing how horrible smoke jaguar is even Mia agreed to that but was simply too proud and loyal to abandon the clan and Liam? i dare say he already got frustrated not only how smoke jaguar is treating him because of his namesake but also how rather incompetent the clan was regarding its intelligence arm, he also didn't exactly show pride and loyalty to the clan and acted very independent ... afterall it was him who initiated contact to the wolf dragoons
@tanith1177 күн бұрын
He then Died in Operation Bulldog when the Inner sphere annihilated the Smoke Jags (For maybe 100 years).
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
A happy ending for all involved!🤣
@dksl98997 күн бұрын
Yup Smoked Jags are no match for me and my MW3 Bushwacker!
@Martagasm7 күн бұрын
@@dksl9899 🤣
@ncemt6 күн бұрын
@dksl9899 that thing was terrible with only single heat sinks.
@Martagasm6 күн бұрын
@@ncemt I have only ever played my Bushwacker in MWO and i got my ass handed to me by Father_Bill on that Solaris event 🤣