Hey Mike, now that Get Foil is out of business I'm trying to get my remote into debug mode or developer mode Do you remember any of the steps?

Mike, Thank you for the video... My understanding is that Waydoo's sensors are towards the nose and vary motor output before prop breech, so a different approach than self-stabized as referenced in the title of this video. Closer to the mast there are two down facing LED lights.

Here's a real, honest review of XFoil by 808 EFoils (Maui, Hawaii). 808 EFoils is 100% independent from XFoil and unaffiliated in any way. The inaccurate statements in this video are discussed here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n57XnpR5os19e5Isi=M5E0Fsv0D0y2inV6

Can efoils hurt marine life in any way because of the propeller and sharp blades?

thank you for pointing out the red flags with X-FOIL they sent me very misleading LOUNCH notifications they wanted immediate $4000.00 I did not buy in , there was no LAUNCH , is no no EX-FOIL

I hope they all fail removes the glory.

I think market trends is budget boards to get people into the system or expensive boards for experts to ride. I don't see who needs a high cost beginner only board, it seems like this tech will need crazy RnD and I don't think the market is there.

How bout a stabilising front wing like the aquaskipper?

I have been teaching newbies to ride efoils for years. There are many challenges to learning to ride, all can be overcome in a single session with good coaching. We have a 93% success rate for 1st time riders to get on to foil safely and confidently. The other 7% had obstacles that they couldn't overcome in their first session, including balance, fear, and fitness. Handle bars can help. Inflatable collars can help. Mechanical stabilizers can help. IMHO, getting through the short learning curve is important, but then you need to have complete freedom to ride the efoil the way you want to, with or without stabilizers. Life is short. Have a little fun everyday!

Lots of false information about XFoil here. XFoil is based in Silicon Valley, California (Not China). The dynamic wings/tail can be interchanged (not sure how you missed that especially when you yourself scrolled back and forth on the video that showed it). All the comparisons facts are verifiable and true. The bladder comment is irrelevant. The "lower cost" efoils doesn't have the range and runtime capability. At the end of the video a Chinese manufacturer is mentioned to have stability. It doesn't show anything related to dynamic stability at all... We're happy to answered questions about XFoil here.

Not sure if this will have legs.

I don’t see the appeal. Local efoil place just posted video yesterday of 70 year old getting up on foil after 30 minutes of first lesson. I thought a one-wheel type gyro balance assist via acceleration and deceleration might be helpful for beginners but adding all the moving parts sounds like a maintenance nightmare

If you have the option to turn the Gyro stabilizing on and off, then you can have the best of both worlds and experiment. Instead of criticizing boards that are indigogo, someone needs to actually order one and do a real review instead of just criticizing! Everyone is a critic, but if you haven’t actually been able to ride the board, you can’t really talk about it adequately.

With all respect falling to water and LEARning how to adjust your stance its BIG part of efoiling. Maybe seft adjust is good for people who have some type of injuries and rentals places.

Removes the fun….

Let me know what you think of this new trend?

More dreamers that will lose money on their entrepreneurial fantasies

Another thing I didn’t like about Radinn was that battery runtime was an Over the Air upgrade you had to pay for, they did it to save money and effort so that less boards would get shipped in, terrible design idea, your carrying a ton of extra battery weight you dont even utilize it didn’t make sense to me. If I have 30 pounds of batteries I’m using all of it not 30% then have to pay more to use more of it

This is another reason why I prefer building my own board for the price unless I buy the best brand in my opinion of course being Jetsurf. They are dominating and surviving the market for a reason.

Like eveytime, best of the best Mike 👍

Terrible quality of the video - sorry

Hello, the NeptunX company is bankrupt. I remember you tested it too

Thanks for the video! I have a GetFoil and I think that it is a refined product. Very sad about them closing. I just wish that they didn't shut everything down. Keep providing parts and service while you can. Also open up your suppliers list to help us keep these boards going for as long as possible.

Great video. Going quiet has definitely proven to be a reliable sign of problems (easier for me to say in hindsight and now with my own experience with FOIL) In these days where networking and social media are so important, nothing can survive without it. Once upon a time I remember just as many if not more advertisements for FOIL than any other brand. Thise disappeared. Its also very important to set aside your emotional attachments. When you have already invested time, money, etc. into a brand it can be harder to detatch yourself emotionally from the brand and step back and look at things without that bias. It's Increasingly difficult when there are also mixed messages suggesting that R&D was continuing or pushed to next year. But again, realizing these messages are not shared more publicly to excite the brand may be part of the silence. My suspicions were growing toward the end, but those suspicions were appeased and suppressed by attachments, hopes, and some misinformation. I suspect some employees were in the same boat, especially when many dealers were also suprised... But then not surprised when it was officially over. Another brand Ive been curious about for a long time that closed doors was WeFoil. They were a brand out of Hawaii and extremely expensive. Coincidentally they also stopped posting on social media around the same time as a lawsuit from a family who's son was injured (lost his thimb) while riding one of their efoils I too can only speculate. FOIL was "*built* in USA" and only some things were manufactured or assembled in the US. Its important to make that distinction between "made" and "assembled" or "built" in _____. All in all, I've had a magical experience efoiling. I have literally surfed/ flown for thousands and thousands of miles. It's been well worth it and immensely life changing! I hope others can benefit and feel the same. Live Life to the Foilest 🏄‍♂️🪽🤙

Thanks for this recap, Mike Zed. The market needs to clean itself. Good lesson for anyone who wants to launch the next eFoil and Jetboard company.

One could asume that the generally high pricelevels lead to a small consumer market 🤔

Which company produces the best, most reliable e-foil

Great video, thanks for making it. My 2c here as an absolute watersports addict that love foiling in all forms and spend heavily. In most industries you can deliver a product that looks good, is marketed well and succeed. That’s why most companies are marketing companies, not engineering companies. You can’t get away with that here. There is so much engineering and refinement required to make something good. Foils are extremely complex. Reliability is challenging in this environment. Cutting weight and improving usability is paramount. It has to be a really good product that performs well to be fun. I think that is why the companies that succeed have extensive engineering teams mixed with avid Watersports people in leadership.

Cheers Mike, that was very informative, Thanks a bunch Mark

I’m about done building my own electric jetboard since I cant afford jetsurf

Great update I think a lot of us were wondering what happened to all of these new companies that were popping up it seemed every 4 months. I Personally think Jetsurf Titanium DFI with handlebars and Foil assist are the future for water sports. On a side note I did purchase a chinese Jet Surfboard 9 months ago and love it considering I own a real jetsurf plus Foil board that says a lot.

Great lessons for any startups and investors even outside water sports! Thank you Mike!

Awesome, thank you! Great stuff finally to compare all together that currently on the market or cooking ;)

I received comments from Stoke Foiling on this. "A selection of some key changes since you tried it last: New larger motor - more powerful and doesn’t overheat the same way the smaller motor did on you. Updated electronics - designed to not overheat and uses power more efficiently for longer run time. New underboard receiver - great for prone foiling as you only need the nose slightly out of the water to be able to operate the unit. Also brilliant for down winding and wing foiling. New larger XR battery - the website images you may have seen don’t do this battery justice, it’s only 1cm wider, 2cm taller and 4 cm longer but has 50% more battery capacity. The work we did with the CFD analysis means it has only very slightly more drag than our standard “Sport” battery. Great for larger riders or longer down winders. Upgraded our standard “Sport” battery - this now has 211Wh capacity and a new BMS. New Travel battery - 151Wh capacity so that you can take it on airlines. That’s a lot in a year! But there are some more things we are working on releasing soon (please keep this information to yourself): Fast charger - the batteries have been upgraded for fast charging, and the fast charger launch will be coming soon. Improved remote - I know you didn’t really like the shape of our remote to hold in your hand. Later this year we will have a more comfortable option available."

Great overwiev, thank you Mike

Nice video Mike. Do you ever hit underwater objects?

Thanks for the video Mike!. I still prefer the jetboards, and maybe now it would be great the jetboards with handbars. The ELECTRIC JET SKI from JETSURF is a new generation that looks great!. We cant wait for your test! 😊

Thank you Mike, for all your work! I still prefer jetsurf, and maybe the new jetsurf with handle bars is the new way to the jetsurf... I think that the worst point of the jetsurf is the weight. There is a brand that you know (esurf) that is very light and it would be almost perfect, but its not cheap... The price is another important point. This season you should compare the new boards on the market (price, weight, safe or risk points), all of them: jetboards, efoil, boards with handle bars... We cant wait to see it! Keep on doing videos!❤

I see a new upcoming episode, “The Jetboard Strikes Back” !😂 I have seen more foil and foil prop injuries than blunt jetboard injuries, although foil jets and blunter foils can help prevent that.

MotoSurf Phase 3 ushers in the next generation of JetBoards. Factory in USA. Designed to be both “easy to use” and “easy to own” (which currently doesn’t exist). The sport is growing as demonstrated with its inclusion as a permanent sport in the World Games. Engineering a foil board is easy. Engineering a successful jetboard seems near impossible as demonstrated by the ones that couldn’t get it right. The demand is there, the engineering to help grow the sport even bigger will be coming from MotoSurf.

Motosurf is not version 3 of ewave 😂😂😂 it’s made in the USA full new production facility. The only component on the whole board that’s similar is the battery so that people that had an ewave can use their old batteries as spares. Motosurf changes the game. Maybe you should talk to them so you can get informed. 😂😂😂😂 you’ve been out of it for a while. 9 new brands this year alone. Uim new manufacturers counsel, motorized surfing in the world games this year. Recognized by the world Olympic Committee 😂😂😂😂😂 catch up Mike you’re out of touch. It’s ok to enjoy foiling. But don’t pretend to know what’s happening in the world of motorized surfboards. Supercar Blondie just did a video this month on motorized surfing that got over 100M views. Motorized surfing not done. You’re done with motorized surfing. Enjoy your retirement. 🎉

Very cool…👍

Do you still own a JetSurf? Looking forward to Garner and Lundquist's electric Motosurf Phase 3! According to Whoop, I get a much better workout on a Jetsurf compared to a Foildrive! But I don't have nice swells either... Hope you can review Jetsurf Ski!

Thanks Mike, for all the great work!

Hi Mike and congratulations for this channel. In the meantime that new equipment comes out on the market, maybe you could look for and give space to those who have made a DIY project explaining the problems they had and how they overcame them. Maybe with interviews and tests in the water if in your area or remote interviews. Ths is just a suggestion that I hope will inspire you. A big greeting from Italy :)

Inspired by you I'm preparing my foil assist setup, soon I'll find you in baleal :)

Mike, you’ve done an amazing job all these years showing the latest Jetsurf and efoil technology. Great video and keep on riding and making your videos 🙌👍❤️

love this channel and your style! Keep with it! Keep on foiling!