it's not often that a 2 move strat is viable, so i figured i may as well take advantage of the opportunity 😁

@PogoAqua you're the 2nd person yo ask me for this. I was planning to make it later today

@PogoAqua oh my bad I misread your question. You're asking if I'm okay with you making a giga drain video on your channel and crediting me. Yeah that's fine. Though you might want to wait and see what I come up with for my giga drain build first. Should be available in a few hours.

@@DaniSoloRaids Oh ok Dani. Sounds good. Originally I was going to tinker around with the EVs and make a "new" build centered around Giga Drain. But if you suggest I will wait for the new build :)

@@PogoAqua here's my giga drain rillaboom vid: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpWwqqOofpeJgrc up to you if you want to use it as is or change up the EVs, moves, item, etc. Please link to one of the two Rillaboom videos in your video descripton where you give me credit. And when it's published, send me a link so I can check it out.

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@@K3nnan I already made an orthworm video, so it's a bit lower priority to make another one just for a different tera type, but I'll try to get to it

That is unfortunate. Next time I roll a no intimidator team I will try it myself. If I pull it off I'll let you know how and if not I'll clarify the intimidator requirement. I appreciate the dedication

@Bear-iu4cr rillaboom has a bad special attack stat and it's only way to buff it is growth which is slower than swords dance. So that might not work all that well

@Bear-iu4cr you know what though, its special attack stat is the same as leafeon's, and I was able to run leafeon as a special giga drainer. The hard part would be that unlike leafeon it doesn't get spdef buffs along with it's spatk buffs, so it would require extra turns to snarl. Maybe I'll give it a shot and see if I can get it to work

@Bear-iu4cr the special rillaboom build worked out. it's actually slower than the physical one, substantially, which makes sense because it's held back not only by its base special attack stat but also by growth being slower to buff than swords dance. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpWwqqOofpeJgrc

@ChuanHsieh-x8c sounds like the only difference is protect. Makes sense to open with it so the NPC defense cheer is active the first time you take damage, and perhaps also on the turn contrary is disabled to prevent an earth power debuff. I'd be concerned about the earth power damage with torterra at +4 special attack though unless I had help from bellibolt light screen or sylveon moonblast. Skitter smack drops it to a more manageable +2.

brute bonnet can learn seed bomb, but i didn't put it on my brute bonnet build because brute bonnet, like most grass types, is better off being ran as a special attacker in this raid for the giga drain healing. seed bomb is just a basic 80 BP physical grass attack with no secondary effects. once you terastalize it's indistinguishable from tera blast. it happens to be the strongest physical grass move that many grass types can learn that doesn't have major downsides like wood hammer. chesnaught doesn't have the base stats or move pool to work as a giga drain build, so seed bomb + shell bell is a substitute for physical giga drain / horn leech.

yeah serperior is great. similar to ogerpon in that it's a grass type with a healing move, taunt, and an attack debuff. i have a serperior video on my channel as well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/goncZ5eGnNuHbMk

@christopherlarson7579 thanks! I recorded a shell bell run of this build first but it was taking so little damage that the shell bell felt totally unnecessary. I could see it becoming useful on bad RNG run though. I very rarely pair a metronome with a non healing attack, but this seemed like the time to do it if there ever was one.

@ which build would you say has been both the fastest and most consistent in your opinion? lol I’m too cheap with my exp. Candies and Tera shards to experiment

@@christopherlarson7579 im not really sure how to answer the question when the fastest build is not the most consistent. my fastest build was land shaymin. once ive gotten a run good enough to upload that's typically the last time i run a build, so my assessment of consistency is based on a prediction and not experience. i would expect the most consistent build to be arceus or brute bonnet.

Yeah the EVs and the presence of an intimidator are crucial to preventing venusaur from getting KO'd in this raid.

@ tbf I think last time with Venasaur, I got one hit KO’d with earthquake

@@JustinRuggles that's going to be tough given the ground weakness. I was not considering it, but I can look into it. Have you tried it yet?

yeah it has worked for me a couple times with no intimidators. had to use the balloon to get off clear smog turn 1 without getting KO'd and use stockpile to buf defenses.

@JustinRuggles nice. I was thinking about acid armor and Amnesia, but I realized that it doesn't have room for both of them seeing as it needs a primary attack, a damage boost, and clear smog. Stockpile consolidates to one move slot, so that seems like a good call. On a physical build curse could consolidate the defense buff and damage boost to make room for Amnesia.

​@@DaniSoloRaidsAfter some more runs, it seems I was getting kind of lucky at the start. It has been closer timer-wise but more reliable overall to not use Stockpile and just chase down the grass tera even if you go down once.

leavanny will have an easier time. lurantis can't learn iron defense or struggle bug, so it's forced to rely on contrary, with superpower buffing its defense, and earth power buffing its special defense. i tried with leavanny a couple of days ago and couldn't get it to work, but it felt doable so i was gonna come back to it. i'll try both of them soon

@@DaniSoloRaids I forgot that lurantis can’t learn iron defense, I was thinking a contrary lurantis with superpower to raise defense

leavanny: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXO5oq1vqq6lptE

lurantis: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4arpZKoh5Jsmrc

It actually did work with that EV spread, but it was really close and seemed much riskier. It didn't use Earth Power at all, but the physical attacks were rough... one crit during setup would've taken me out for sure.

@@JustinRuggles so sorry about that. it was indeed supposed to say Iron. fixed it.

fantastic!

Beat me to it. At +4 Brave Torterra is at 399 while Calyrex would be at 392. 16 point in speed would leave you with 400 after a psych up.

@@Drapion0Lover how did you arive at 399? from what i can tell brave torterra has a speed of 133, which is why ive been able to outspeed it with a speed of 267 on turn with several builds, since 133 x 2 = 266. 4 speed stages is supposed to be a 3x multiplier. 133 x 3 = 399. okay now i see where i went wrong. i must have gotten 133 mixed up with 122. thanks you two.

i do. it was pretty far down the list but i'll bump it up.

​@@DaniSoloRaids cool, thanks!

this is wild. i keep coming witihin 1 turn of winning but haven't been able to pull it off in 4 attempts, with 3 other attempts thwarted by critical hits. gonna have to circle back to it.

if using curse, im thinking ice punch or ice spinner

too bad you went online after the event ended. for these events where it's two consecutive weekends with a break in between, if you stay offline after the first weekend until the 2nd weekend starts, you get one uninterrupted 9 day event. i have an abomasnow prepped but i haven't gotten to it yet. it would perform far better as a giga drain build with grass tera, so it's kind of hard to justify running it ice tera just for the sake of using ice tera since it's essentially a handicap.

planning on it.

@@DaniSoloRaids great job Dani 😀😊 did you make a grass Tera Florges build yet for this raid ? I was thinking you can give it giga drain, reflect, chilling water and calm mind holding shell bell or covert cloak or you can have one of your friends join you if they bring a support Pokémon if needed

@@jeffreyzess6998 i replied to your original comment about florges explaining why it's not going to work in solo but i will run it in duos.

@@DaniSoloRaids ah alright my friend I just seen it now and it sounds good let me know when you posted it so I can watch it because I love your Pokemon Raid videos they are so satisfying to watch

@@DaniSoloRaids how did you get so good at beating these raids do you have any tips because I want to try to beat these raids like with other Pokemon too I really wish I could beat these raids easily with other Pokemon

@MrSchrutefarms69 I haven't yet but I was planning to. Are you certain it gets haze? I looked it up and it said that it doesn't. I beat the raid with ice rider and wasn't able to teach it haze, and AFAIK ice rider can learn all of base calyrex's moves

⁠@@DaniSoloRaidsI was referring to shadow rider Caly and it should learn it from everything I can tell.

@MrSchrutefarms69 what is "everything you can tell" based on, and what is the learning mechanism? Maybe try it yourself because I think you may be mistaken

grass calyrex: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWrTqKeVmpaXoJY also, it doesn't have nasty plot. you may have been thinking of shadow rider, which has nasty plot and haze. that one would be harder to run since it doesn't have a supereffective base type. i'll consider running it if someone explicitly requests it.

should be doable. it may be harder because it doesn't have the base stats or move set to be ran as a special attacker. i'll give it a shot.

chesnaught: kzbin.info/www/bejne/onnLl5aIochgb7c

i actually finished it right before you posted this comment, but it was a sloppy run because i was tired, so i decided to rerecord it. gonna do that now.

iron leaves: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqHKcqWQYrxloMU

oh that's brilliant, coil increases your accuracy so that iron tail always lands, and it doesn't cost extra turns cuz its bundled with the attack and defense buffs. I'm gonna run it. If I like it, I'll upload it and credit you.

I tried it. It was fun, but it did not achieve "can speed thing along" reliably. My attempt ran 64 seconds longer than the one in this video. i'm sure with better RNG it could have produced a faster run.

Well it does rely on a 30% to drop defense to overall increase damage & speed. I simply like going Tera Steel to resist Wood Hammer post-Tera. Well I'm glad you found the idea fun to use, sorry the result weren't good.

i did not realize that withdraw had a shorter animation. i'll keep that in mind. thanks for pointing it out 😀in retrospect it should have been obvious because there is a separate animation for increases and for lowering stats. so a move like curse that includes both stat increases and stat decreases is obviously going to have a longer animation than a move like withdraw that only decreases.

description now says Curse / Withdraw in the move section.

You're welcome! I'm so glad to hear it worked out well for you. I agree that this is the sort of strategy that can quickly fall apart if you make any mistakes, but as long as it's correctly executed, it's quite reliable.

the turtwig line can work as physical, special, or mixed, and that's true of quite a few grass types. but in this raid, special is nearly always better cuz giga drain.

that is a cool idea. i'll try it.

i looked at the damage calcs and florges would require incredible RNG (paralysis blocking multiple early turns, or 3 intimidators) in order to work in solo. the problem is the low base defense and HP coupled with the fairy typing not resisting ground or grass. if you open with charm or tearful look, you get KO'd turn 2, and then after respawning you have very little time before the 2nd shell smash happens and at that point your tera orb is nowhere near charged and you're hosed. It's a duos mon for this raid. I will run it in duos when I start making duos videos.

I ran florges as a twin build and it worked out nicely. video is scheduled to be published when the event resumes.

the resource rewards are nice, and having a variety of builds to cycle between can help keep farming from getting monotonous.

Glad to help! Good to know that the KO from critical hit wasn't a game ender.

i love it!

i did consider it but i haven't done it because i agree that it needs bellibolt (or sylveon moonblast) and an intmidator, and i haven't rolled such a team yet. if and when I do, I'll give it a shot

@@DaniSoloRaids Cool.

we forgot about skitter smack, which make bellibolt unnecessary. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4arpZKoh5Jsmrc

it has potential. i would expect torterra to use wood hammer both pre and post tera, which can be managed with breaking swipe. there's no guarantee that torterra won't cancel levitate with smack down, but even if it does, it might still avoid using ground attacks, and even if it does, flygon has access to struggle bug. would you like me to attempt it?

@@DaniSoloRaids Yes, I want to see you try it.

@@ChuanHsieh-x8c alrighty, it's in the queue

i tried it out and couldn't get it to work. it just takes too much damage. in most cases torterra won't bother using smack down at all so you don't have to worry about special attack, which is nice, but even with an intimidator on the team, it just takes so much damage from physical attacks that it's hard to survive long enough to get the debuffs in place to even get started on dragon dancing. should work well in duos. i'll revisit it.

@@DaniSoloRaids I see. I got a feeling that might happened.

not yet, but they're in the queue

arboliva: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJqmpqKpo8aohpI

sawsbuck: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4HHhYuhiNN4oLs

not yet, but it's in the queue

toedscruel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bX2qZpuBhtx2m8k