Thank you for the update. I can't find the Atian on sale but would still buy one but as you say; I would just be careful. Unfortunately, not everyone who bought one may have known about this safety hazard. Great info and content that you have been creating.
@KeokiSea21 күн бұрын
Hi, just got one of these over here in Japan for a 30ah LifeP04. Quick question, when the battery's full does it just display off and not full? Cheers
@senselessfun21 күн бұрын
Both of my $25 units display full when done
@KeokiSea21 күн бұрын
Thanks. Once mine reaches 60%, it displays ' off' and comes on again repeatedly. I was wondering if it was part of the LiFe charging cycle. Had to go out so I turned it off to be safe.
@gerald4nomadsАй бұрын
I have two 30 amp victron battery chargers and love them. I prefer to charge my batteries , slow to extend the life on them and mainly because a weekend warrior and have plenty of time for them to recharge.
@froggymountainАй бұрын
Have 4 of the units. Solid when fully assembled. Two people to assemble was easier.
@sashly992 ай бұрын
I have that same saw and the ns872. Both have been excellent so far. Needed tuning though
@senselessfunАй бұрын
How long have you had them? Glad they are holding up nice for you.
@hughhodges59243 ай бұрын
How wide are your panels ?
@senselessfun3 ай бұрын
The panels are 39 inches wide Hugh.
@h.v57733 ай бұрын
👍
@fasfan3 ай бұрын
I have one of those. Not sure I'll ever part with it. Because it is ridiculously unreliable. But it's also unique and an oddity. And it's kind of neat having it for that reason.
@senselessfun2 ай бұрын
I have passed mine on to a buddy who is thrilled to have the oddity now in his collection. Glad you find it good in a strange way as well.
@JohnBlack-oq5dd3 ай бұрын
Shadow on the solar panels
@DFX2KX3 ай бұрын
4:30 oh wow I have that exact same power bank! It'll charge off of basically anything lol
@Electronzap3 ай бұрын
That's good for learning with before you invest in a larger and more efficient systems.
@frankmorris47904 ай бұрын
Be ready when your edge slices through your head cover....
@senselessfun4 ай бұрын
I gave extra room at the end of the blade with the sheath so it doesn't touch the leather. About 1/4". Thanks for the comment though. I will be ready for it.
@frankmorris47904 ай бұрын
Worse!! you gave it room to move. Easy fix, just glue a welt into that fold or stitch one in if you have the tools, or do be ready.@@senselessfun
@senselessfun4 ай бұрын
I will look into that. Thanks.@@frankmorris4790
@senselessfun4 ай бұрын
I just glued a piece of thick leather into the fold and it should be good now. It also holds the sheath open better now instead of laying flat. Thanks again for the tip.
@frankmorris47904 ай бұрын
Perfect! Best o luck.@@senselessfun
@XtremeSoulja4 ай бұрын
Great account and video, hope u get more subs
@senselessfun4 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@danortiz514 ай бұрын
What's the square footage of your shop
@miamiSincar4 ай бұрын
you think i can run the eg4 12000 btu mini split with 2 400watts panels
@senselessfun4 ай бұрын
I will have to double check the specs later on it exactly but you would need to have enough voltage from the panels to run it as well as the watts. I have 8 24v panels in series to run the mini split. 6 would work as well. My issue is the poor sun especially in winter up here. So when I ran the heat the other day it was using about 1000 to 1050 watts and solar was only producing about 1/3 of what it needed so it was pulling the rest from the grid. I would be same for AC but don't remember the watts needed for AC. I don't think 800 would be enough though considering you will not get full 800 watts from the panels to start with.
@EricBarger4 ай бұрын
What does your LiTime charger do when the battery reaches 100%? My LiTime charger, charging a LiTime 100Ah battery, runs for a second or two than shuts off. It repeats this cycle until I unplug the charger. Is this normal?
@senselessfun4 ай бұрын
My LiTime charger has red light while charging then turns green and stays green when fully charged.
@EricBarger4 ай бұрын
@@senselessfun Thank you. I believe mine is bad.
@EricBarger4 ай бұрын
Replacement charger does the same thing. Very weird.
@senselessfun4 ай бұрын
I have only that happen once a couple weeks ago. I had 2 new eg4 lifep04 batteries delivered. They have bluetooth built in so I was able to see they needed charging. It was winter delivery so when I tried charging them right off the delivery truck it did that immediately on both batteries. I left them overnight to warm up and they charged normal next day. The light turned green and stayed green after fully charged.
@mikeespo77283 ай бұрын
@@EricBarger Mine does the same thing...the company replied to me that it was normal..I haven't drawn down the battery enough to require a charge, since
@ahmadadam51825 ай бұрын
great update … I didn’t realize it, I’ll test mine later … thx. done testing: it showed 30.64V at the clamps whilst showing “Off” … I have another charger; with its power on the clamps showed 16.64V … the thing is my 12V car battery is showing 14.05V at the terminals … guess the battery on its own is also a safety issue … point is, both chargers should be treated with respect at the clamps when connected to a live power source; same as a 12V or 24V batteries standing minding their own business at the corner … great tip by the way …
@user-qr8kv5ow6h5 ай бұрын
Cubic inch? 🤣
@24So5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update 😮
@robertduncan27425 ай бұрын
Have you considered one of the fans that runs from heat on top
@senselessfun5 ай бұрын
That is a good thought! I have a couple on my woodstove in the shop. I should try one on top of the ammo can.
@mikeespo77285 ай бұрын
Bought the 20 amp Li time charger...spent $94.00. It does a great job charging the 230ah battery I bought from them as well (about 3 hrs).. Wish I would have seen this video...probable would have went with the cheaper one and saved some money..
@OriginalMindTrick20 күн бұрын
Charging a 230ah battery from empty to 100% should take 12-13 hours. Are you charging it up to 80%?
@shawnpalmiter88386 ай бұрын
Redneck that shit up! Looks good bubba!
@senselessfun6 ай бұрын
lol. Thanks Shawn
@TurtleWaxed6 ай бұрын
Check and see what the current is coming out when you see the volts with unit in OFF. It may be sending out a "sense" voltage which is often just a small trickle and may be actually harmless. If it is jumping it is most likely just "Looking" for a load. a floating voltage is common in many applications. Does the Kilawatt show any power being pulled? What is the power draw in OFF vs full charging rate on a dead battery? It does say it is "Smart Automatic Maintainer Trickle Charger" so it is probably doing a float charge regardless if there is a load or not. I agree that is not best as OFF should be completely OFF and not trickle. It should have an OUTPUT RELAY so it can completely isolate aka shut off the output in the OFF mode.
@davef.23296 ай бұрын
I have 2 of those red ones, both with "Foxsur" on the back like yours. They both do the same thing and, coincidentally, when connected to LiFePo4 battery (ies) also show a wattage draw of 38W on a Kill-o-Watt meter with the charger display reading "FULL" and no flashing of LEDs. It must be doing something.
@Johnny-dp5mu6 ай бұрын
discovered that resistance is high with those battery clamps and these battery chargers are sensitive to resistance...so keep the charger charging the battery to 100% connection was secured by nut and bolt...and quick disconnects between battery and charger. a good solution for tolling motor/charger/battery.
@MegaCyrik6 ай бұрын
I use a 5$ buck. It can handle 20a with a fan. Works great in parallel too if needed. Charged a 12v250ah many times using 3 in parallel at 40a. I just charge to 14v. The amp will hit zero when done. I charge smaller ones too, lile 32650 and other. Can set both amps & volt as i need. Got one on my 24v solar pumping out 14v to all my 12v fans & lights all over the house.
@ericklein50976 ай бұрын
Both extremely overpriced. You can get server power supplies converted to CC CV power supplies. 0-15V 0-50A and there is even one that is 0-15V 0-100A. The first one is about $60 shipped and the latter is $110 shipped. There is also a 0-100V 0-20A (0-15A on 120V circuit) charger for $110 shipped.
@PS-kq1ur5 ай бұрын
But power supplies converted won't stop charging if the batt. is full, right?
@ericklein50974 ай бұрын
@@PS-kq1ur for the first two I mentioned yes, there is no current cut off at a certain point (typically 0.05C is the cutoff point) For the third one I mentioned I believe you can set a cutoff. I know the more expensive ZXD2400 (~$220 depending on which version you get, they have different displays) has a ton of adjustability and that includes current cutoff
@jimmybrad1566 ай бұрын
tap them like a champ :)
@mikedevita55586 ай бұрын
Does the top horizontal rail adjust down for shorter panels?
@senselessfun6 ай бұрын
It may be able to move down to the lower brace bracket bolts but you can easily drill holes at any height you want on the rails to move the top rail down to any height. Probably about a 30 minute job.
@user-nt3xy8xm7n6 ай бұрын
Tell practically how uou made it not viabley😮
@WiSeNhEiMeR-13696 ай бұрын
Thanks COOP ...
@daninbenson6 ай бұрын
I think it is a "wake up" voltage for LiFePO4 batteries. If the battery BMS disconnected due to low voltage (dead < 9 volts or so), you can't charge it until the BMS sees voltage at the terminals that is above it's disconnect voltage. Many newer battery chargers that are not lithium specific take a voltage measurement (requires no output from charger, just like your voltmeter) to determine charging voltage (i.e. 6,12 or 24 volt). If the charger sees no voltage, it won't charge- useless if BMS is disconnected. LiFePO4 chargers send a voltage to "wake up" a disconnected BMS so charging can begin. Sometimes you can even wake up a BMS with a little square 9 volt battery. Still "Off" should be "off". Bad design.
@avrumo6 ай бұрын
Perhaps it is a Capacitor discharging ? Be interesting when this Brand answers this question to you . TNX for the Demo and info .
@vitaliy13767 ай бұрын
How long does it take to charge 100ah Lifepo4 battery on those charges (10A) in comparison? Also how many watts they take on the input? Thanks
@ediwaldosanchez72686 ай бұрын
10 hours
@harleycharley017 ай бұрын
Were your chargers in 24V mode, before getting the 30V readings? My charger was used at 12V before reading 17V in "OFF". There seems to be little to no amperage in the leads. Any load, like a small light bulb sends it into error mode and the voltage drops off. Maybe it is a sensing current sent from the charger to detect the battery condition? Other than this anomaly, the charger works great.
@senselessfun7 ай бұрын
I just tested and checked mine again and same result. I think you may be onto something regarding the charger trying to detect battery. My units have only been used for 12v but the chargers automatically detect what the battery voltage is. I hooked it up to my 12v 50ah ampertime battery and it then showed 12v on the charger. Unhook the battery and shows no 12v or 24v on the display. It still shows 30V on the leads though after unhooking the battery from charger. Not exactly sure what the issue is but I also agree the chargers work great other than this weird thing.
@spuriouseffect7 ай бұрын
What were the solar charge controllers in the white boxes that you use? And do you use those to charge the Lifepo4 batteries? Thanks.
@senselessfun7 ай бұрын
Those are Renogy 10A Wanderer controllers. They are great for small projects and not expensive so I keep a few on hand. Keep in mind that they are only rated for 130W solar input though. I use them for a small setup I have to keep my trolling motor batteries charged at the lake and things like that. Here is a link to them at Amazon from when I bought them last: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NPDWZJ7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
@senselessfun7 ай бұрын
Oh. and yes I do charge lifepo4 batteries with them. They do have a mode for that battery type.
@spuriouseffect7 ай бұрын
@@senselessfun Thank you! That's what I needed to know. I went with the Renogy 20A.
@harleycharley017 ай бұрын
When my ATian charger plugged in and not connected to a battery, it displays the "OFF" stage, but the leads have a 17V charge. I am wondering if this is normal.
@senselessfun7 ай бұрын
I have a couple of them so I will test them in a day or two and get back to you. I wouldn't seem normal to have any charge showing when in off mode.
@senselessfun7 ай бұрын
I have done a test on 2 of my chargers and you are on to something. Mine showed 29V on one and 30V on the other in OFF mode. I have done an update to this video and posted it in the description and below. Thank you harleycharley01 for bringing this up because that could be a safety issue for those using these!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJy9gYxseM1njsk
@2hotscottpro7 ай бұрын
So I I didn’t read this I’d be in the dark on update.I’d just delete this vid.
@2hotscottpro6 ай бұрын
But now I need one lol
@Theedgecrusher937 ай бұрын
I have the red one branded as FOXSUR for about a year. I have used it to charge a 200ah lifepo4 battery with no issues. I try to charge with solar as much as possible though.
@senselessfun7 ай бұрын
Good to know. Thanks for the info!!
@IH8CalSpa5 ай бұрын
@Tjeedgecrusher93, how long does it take you to charge a 12v 200ah battery if it is at 0%?
@Juzzzqo2 ай бұрын
Prolly 48hrs@@IH8CalSpa
@michaelborchardt15278 ай бұрын
I have 6 of the 400watt panels. Would i be able to buy 2 eg4 kits and just use half of the second one for a 6 panel ground mount?
@senselessfun8 ай бұрын
You should be able to. I was only going to put 6 panels up with my 2 mounts. I may add 2 more since I have tough sun here.
@ssoffshore51118 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I've been looking at these. I'm not crazy about the way they mount, I probably would prefer front and rear mounts to bolt them down for more strength, but I guess they work fine as is and this requires less footings. I'm looking for something that's semipermanent, seeing these assembled in your video gave me the idea of maybe mounting these on something like a PT 4"x6" for some ground clearance and not anchoring it into the ground... Instead, use 6 screw anchors (3F, 3R) and then tie them down from the beams. This would be easily (re)movable and be less hassle than digging and pouring concrete, not to mention a lot less hassle than removing said concrete! If you used something like ratchet straps, you could even easily adjust the tilt a little with the straps, lol!
@ssoffshore51118 ай бұрын
BTW, I'm looking forward to seeing your results with those panels for heating.
@senselessfun8 ай бұрын
I like that idea of not having a permanent cement mounts. And if using wood beams it may be easier to make it adjustable left and right and not just tilt. Great idea!! I may work on a setup like that in the next couple weeks. Thanks for the comment and ideas!!!
@ssoffshore51118 ай бұрын
@@senselessfun I'm a low budget mechanical engineer, lol! Thanks again for posting the video of this mount in the wild, like I said, it gave me new ideas as well. Looking forward to your future solar related videos...
@hardtruth20398 ай бұрын
I’m building a 5 panel mount out of unistrut for aprox $200 and I’m mounting two more 5 panel arrays on my metal patio roof with 4 98lb magnets with stainless hardware $15 per panel. This 5s3p arrangement gives me over 1500 watts at 102v and 14.73a in perfect conditions. I using JJN 100w 9bb panels at $59 a piece.
@senselessfun8 ай бұрын
That sounds like a nice setup! I hope it works out well for you.