😅unfortunately haven't really been testing any audio stuff in quite some time already. my favourite is still the Nicehck EB2S for earbuds, and for TWS i've been usnig Moondrop's Space travel for over a year now and still happy with it.

pretty much the same. install play store from v-store, it will prompt to turn on basic google services and that's about it. for maps perhaps can double check if permissions for location has been granted and turned on? I rmb if you turn off everything they list out during initial setup location will be off by default. gmail wise if you meant not getting immediate notifications immediately, will need to make sure autostart is enabled for the app in permissions, and need to lock the app in recent apps (pull down on the app in recent apps and don't clear it away). vivo tends to be a bit more aggressive at killing background apps compared to hyperos and colorOS in my experience. i didn't really do any other setup apart from these things

​@@axhng I’ve granted full location access to Maps, but the map won’t load-it only shows me as a blue circle on a grey map. For Gmail, the issue isn’t with notifications; instead, the "Getting your messages" status keeps loading endlessly. I’ve also tried downloading and installing the Google Services Framework from APKPure, but it didn’t resolve the issue. The phone is a iQOO Neo 9. Edit: I just tried Google Maps Go, and it seems to retrieve the location through my default browser, which works.

i feel like not worth it anymore. the battery life wasn't great when new, and now that it's older it probably will be worse. the SD8Gen2 is also 2 generation old now, and kinda hard to recommend at this price considering that you can already get something with the latest Dimensity 9400 chip, the find x8 at slightly under 1k too brand new.😅

@axhng thanks for the advice Alex...was pondering the x8 pro as well hehehe

I've not tried K80 and HyperOS so can't say for sure, but from comparisons I've seen on bilibili, people do still feel that OriginOS is more stable and smoother still. Personally i feel like they really are quite similar overall in terms of value, and both seems like good value. Neo10 seems more focused on gaming, whereas K80 is more more of a general all-rounder, but loses a bit in terms of gaming-related features. K80 has a bit more hardware features, but in return is also more expensive. so i feel like both are probably good options in this price range. Anyway in the end after trying a bunch of SD8Gen3 phones, most of them do tend to provide a similar enough experience. so just going with what you are more curious about is probably fine. like for me i decided to try neo10 over k80 because it was cheaper, i prioritise gaming performance more, and i like the design more.😅though because my eyes are just too sensitive to PWM dimming, it ended up not working out.

@ ahh i see, thank you so much for replying! for these past few days ive been struggling to find the perfect phone for me XD I want it to last for more than 3 years because recently ive been switching phones every 2 years and I feel like im wasting a lot of money. Your review helped me out a lot. Although I kinda dont get the PWM dimming you were talking about, maybe I will find out once I get the Neo 10. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, bro!

it's quite different. the 14T is a mid range phone with mid range D8300 chipset. There isn't really a global version of this. The Poco F6 Pro is similar to the Redmi K70, and the 14T Pro is similar to the Redmi K70 Ultra.

@axhng will I save money if I get k70 version instead of global version Xiaomi?

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it's a generic adapter i got online for like around $5. so it doesn't really have a brand name or anything 😅

@axhng do u have a link to it?

the banking apps that i've tried do work. uob, posb/dbs, gxs. singpass works fine too. the one bug i forgot to mention that i mentioned in the neo10 video i did later, is that for posb/dbs app, the app will always force close the first time if it's a fresh launch (not in RAM anymore). the 2nd launch (or if the app is still in RAM/recent apps) it will be normal though. functionality wise no issue in the app. there is also something i think posb/dbs implemented recently i think where their cards can't be added to google pay for some reason (might need to call in or something). i think this is happening to other CN ROMs too, not just vivo/iQOO. i usually add UOB card and only tested posb/dbs later so didn't catch that issue in time.

@axhng Thanks for the info 🙏

was hoping it would have it, but unfortunately i didn't see that option when i still had the phone.

iqoo has an app called easyshare for file transfer. i know it's available in the play store for other android phones too. though apps might not transfer over though. i've used that on a global poco phone and had to manually reinstall apps, likely because the iQOO is running a CN rom.

@axhng thanks so much, i recall when i transferred from my old xiaomi to my huawei even the apps were transferred. Hopefully everything will go well

hmm.... overall.. probably an older iphone like maybe 14... and even then video quality probably wouldn't be as good. the sensor is good, but then image processing is pretty much like you would expect from a cheaper phone.

@@Ikigai-021 I think it is better than funtouch by a lot, but that’s mostly because I don’t mind dealing with some of the quirks that comes with using a China only OS outside of China, and I’ve personally tested it and most of the apps I need works fine. When it comes to hyperOS, the CN version of it is probably almost as good as originOS imo. Global version of hyperOS is a little further behind since it has a it less customisation options and features.

hmm. if you're not as sensitive to the display or weight of the phone, iQOO 12 is more well-rounded i think. performance is similar, build quality is nicer, and camera performance is way better. however, if not, the larger batter and bypass charging is probably worth going Neo10 for better gaming experience. nicer screen and ultrasonic sensor too.

hmm. not sure about that, but in my case at least the neo10's screen looks better for me. but QC could be a reason for sure since they tend to cut corners in that regard when ti comes to cheaper phones. or it could be preference for colours too since neo9's screen is a bit cooler and more saturated which some may prefer.

not supported. i also miss Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision 😢

@MayabiPakhi-m4s 😥😥😥

@@BirukAtinafu-n9l hmm. From what I have read sometimes Sony partners with carriers to push out updates, and sometimes some carriers just don’t care. Also it could have been so long ago that they just stopped pushing updates already. I would just stick with Android 9 if possible since Android 10 didn’t exactly have a good feedback from users too. But if you really want the update, probably can try searching for help on xda forums to see if they have away to flash the update?

thanks! i think it would depend on the game since streaming through the phone will likely tax the processor more too. not sure how much though since i don't steam. but for heavier games, probably will need to drop the graphics quite a bit. like for Honkai star rail at max graphics, even when the phone is cool there are areas where the game will still drop framerates simply because it's too much for processor. same goes for like certain areas in zenless zone zero. my guess is that some of these games are just too demanding on single core performance, which isn't amazing last gen processors. it's only with SD8 Elite that the single core performance massively improved. i think at this price range, it's probably one of the only option that has bypass charging, which will be very helpful for live streaming... but i think probably just wait and see what OnePlus Ace5 offers first? i think it should be annoucing in China soon.

@@axhng thanks bro. but one plus price wil be very much high in my country, i will play pubg and warone mobile or pubg new state mobile or game for peace for live stream and sometimes i will play genshin or other heavy games. thats why right now i am confused should i purchase this one or not. but overall i like this phone. living in a curse country where every phone price is very high due to dollar crisis and officially launched phone prices are very very very much high.😢

hmm. not sure if i'll test vivo's flagships since I usually care more about performance rather than cameras, and they have the same software experience too, but is just overall more expensive. 😅but if i do spot a good deal for one, i might give it a go though, especially something like the mini.

@@Donaldbark unfortunately it’ll probably be quite unlikely for me to buy that phone since after trying a bunch of phones in this price range with the same chips, they all feel so similar in terms of performance that I feel like the experience will likely be similar anyway.😅 in the end it’s just down to which one looks more appealing to you. Like whether you prefer realme UI or originOS, whether battery size is more important, or you prefer faster charging and charging bypass. Whether you want ultrasonic sensor or not. Whether you can live with a slightly heavier phone, etc.

​@@axhng Thanks for your reply! I'm interested in Origin OS because I heard it's very light and fast. I use a Realme GT Neo 3 with 150W fast charging, so 80W on the Realme Neo 7 feels slower. iQOO phones seem very powerful and well optimized in terms of software,But idk if how many Software support in the iqoos phones specally the neo series. I read that their cameras are better than the Sony IMX 882 in the Realme neo 7. I play games and casual photography and I prefer smooth 4k 60fps video recording since My Neo 3 can shoot up to 4k 60fps but the stabilization is suck but in 1080p 60 fps it gives some stabilization and it work well for me. Faster charging, a better camera, and the newest Android 15 would be an upgrade. I also want to try Origin OS!!! Please tell me if it's true that Origin Os are light and optimize and less bugs. 🙏🗣️

@@Donaldbark hmm. I'm actually not sure if i would consider it to be light, but having used originOS 4 on the Neo9S Pro as my main phone for 4-5 months, it is smooth and generally don't have any major bugs. However, there were some minor compatibility issue with some global apps, like how for some apps like adidas runtastic, it is impossible get a persistent lockscreen notification to show my current progress when jogging, when i'm using the app on OriginOS. or in telegram, the text input field would just become transparent once in a while and i would need to restart the app. that is easily fixable by switching to telegram x, but it is still some inconvenience and not sure if other global apps might have other issues or not. Afterall, originOS was made only for the Chinese market, which means that sometimes random things like this might occur. same goes for realme UI too of course for their Chinese variant, it's just that I've not tried that before so can't comment much on it. but having used CN colorOS and HyperOS too, I do feel like those 2 are a little more accommodating for the global market, since unlike iqoo/vivo, their global rom probably shares more things with their CN rom. the cameras would probably be an upgrade over the GT Neo 3 for both of them, just because they're newer, but I wouldn't expect too much though since both are not really focused on photography. they might put in decent camera sensors, but they definitely will not give their mid range devices the same processing capabilities as their more expensive phones, or phones from their sister brands, like OPPO, and vivo. but not sure if realme UI is like ColorOS or not and doesn't have a manual video mode, but i do appreciate how originOS has that built into the camera app. software update i think should be fine for the Chinese side seeing that even the Z9 turbo+ i tried was already updated to originOS 5. if you visit their chinese OriginOS site, they have a planned timeline for their other devices too and i see even the Neo6 on that list. just that it'll take longer before getting updated. but yeah, not to put a damper or what not, but while I do really like OriginOS (you can tell by how many iQOO phones I've been trying), I feel like some fans of the OS has been hyping it a bit too much and ignoring some of the potential downsides. it'll work for some ppl, but might not for others. 😅 Personally though, I would just wait another week to see what OnePlus Ace 5 offer first.

​@@axhngThank you for the reply! Now it makes sense. Keep up the detailed and in-depth reviews, and make more videos with other devices too to help your channel grow. Hoping for your success in the near future! Spread kindness and love!!

yes just like my z9 turbo which has 4,500 nits, as bright as the sun 😂

no IP rating on the Neo10. not sure about display protection though since nowadays phone brands are just throwing certifications and numbers in their marketing. you can probably find that on their website. if IP rating is important to you, then probably K80 will be the better bet.

@@axhng I'm just concerned for the safety of the phone. I opted for Redmi K80 because of IP rating as well as the corning gorilla glass 7i protection and also because of better camera quality

Sometimes the phone does have some resistance to water and dust but they dont want to do the test for the testing as it will make yhe phone price increase.

at least according to the info on their website. they call the feature 直驱供电, which translates to "direct-drive power supply". i don't have the equipment or know how to actually test this though. like take out the back cover, connect the battery to a power monitoring equipment while it's is plugged in with this feature turned on (don't even know if this is even possible) to see how how much power is going to the battery and how much to the SOC. but in my usage at least, the phone does feel like it's not heating up as much compared to when the feature is off and the battery is being charged. though i personally suspect that some power is probably still going to the battery since when you turn on this feature, they explainer they gave is "The charger prioritizes powering the device, significantly reducing the charging speed of the battery to prevent heating during charging."

Yes it have bypass charging the good thing is you can manually enable it the bad thing is it super charge and you can full charge it in less than hr

@@NonatoOrquinaza are u sure?

Is it has global version ?

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hi there. the bypass charging is part of the "Ultra Game Mode" instead of being in the settings. but, any app can be added into ultra game mode from what I can see. I was able to add apps like geekbench and antutu into that game mode for example. So if you want to use other apps with charging bypass, it is probably possible to do so. I didn't really get to test that before i got rid of the phone though.

there is no mention of IP rating for the Neo10 iirc

Sir Can you still touch the screen if your finger is wet? May palm is sweating that's why I asked about it.. Hahaha

hmm. i think the display on the neo10 is better for my eyes over the iQOO 13, but then it depends. different ppl might be sensitive to different things. if you're having eye stain even with an LCD screen then it might not be due to PWM flickering from OLED screens, and there is a chance that changing phones won't fix it. Like for example if you have presbyopia, that could cause eye strain too no matter what phone you're using. I recommend checking for that first.

​@@axhngThank you 😍👍

hmm. when i installed the game I remember seeing the Ultra frame rate option, but didn't actually play the game even once before I got rid of it since it was still causing me some eyestrain. so unfortunately, i'm not a 100% sure on this and can't test it out anymore.

@axhng please next test realme neo 7 and see if mlbb run on 120fps or not

over here in SG, they are priced similarly, so i'll personally go with Neo10 for sure. Same chip and fingerprint sensor, but Neo10 has larger battery, charging bypass feature, a nicer looking screen (that also causes less eyestrain for me), UFS 4.1, Q2 gaming chip (though might not be that useful outside of China), and it's newer, so longer support. the charging bypass feature also means that if you game a lot on your phone, it can reduce heat and the amount of charging cycles on the battery, helping it last longer too.

@axhng Which one has better camera?

@@mudithmahendrajith8082 Neo9S Pro+ by a bit since it has a better ultrawide angle camera.

thanks for the suggestion, though i'm probably not buying that since i have no interest in the phone. any phone using SD8 Elite or D9400 but without USB 3.2 with display out support immediately loses my interest unless it is really cheap. 😅 doesn't help that in Singapore, it's cheaper to buy an iQOO 13 with better hardware overall from shopping sites like shopee compared to a Redmi K80 Pro at this point in time. by the time prices drop for the phone, the global xiaomi 15 series might be out already 😂

@@axhng yeah, good point. but K80 Pro has 3x tele which exactly the one xiaomi 15 has. that's a bummer that k80 Pro doesn't have 3.0+ USB out another thing k80 Pro does''t have is LTPO screen. but I am not sure how many people will actually this display feature. so if you had to buy a flagship killer phone which one would you pick? or do you have any other suggestion?

​@@home.we46 yeah. that telephoto with macro capabilities is something i really like on xiaomi devices. but the lack of display out really sucks to me since being able to use display out literally lets me enjoy games in a new way on the iQOO 13 when I was using it. and 8 Elite can absolutely handle that, whereas on 8gen3, the processor will still heat up too much and will still have more stutters when I max out graphics settings. If i'm going to pay more for the 8 Elite chip, i want to be able to really make use of it whenever i feel like it. i know some folks will want LTPO for perhaps Always On Display features, but personally i don't really care if it's LTPS or LTPO. the battery savings it would bring is usually insignificant and the thing that actually affects overall battery life is just battery capacity. Not to mention that for those sensitive to refresh rate changes, LTPO if poorly implemented might actually make the phone feel less smooth if the way they ramp up or ramp down the refresh rate isn't tuned well. personally... iQOO 13 if it didn't have the QC issue with the body clicking on my unit, and didn't cause me eyestrain, would have been my ideal flagship killer, since I don't care as much about camera performance. but for now, aside keeping an eye out for OnePlus 13 and Xiaomi 15's global release, i'm keeping an eye out for the OnePlus Ace 5 Pro which should be launched next week in China. hopefully it has USB 3.2 with display out (though i think it's highly likely it might not). 🤣

@@axhng will you review Oneplus 13?

do you mean the Z9 Turbo+? if so then Neo10 is better in almost every way imo. the larger battery on the Z9 Turbo+ didn't feel much better than the Neo10 when it comes to battery life to me. While performance is similar, Neo10 has charging bypass, UFS 4.1. Screen looks noticeably better on the Neo10 + it has ultrasonic sensor, the haptics, speakers, are noticeably better to me as well, and build quality is better too. unless the Z9 Turbo+ is a lot cheaper than the Neo10, i wouldn't bother with it unless you need LTPS and DC-like Dimming for all brightness for some reason, you want a lighter phone, or you want android auto support (it shows up in settings after updating to originOS 5, not sure if it works properly or not though since i don't drive).

Thanks for this reply man 🤝​@@axhng

Neo10, but it's just for the charging bypass feature imo. it'll help the battery last longer since it will run less hot and use less charging cycles. though performance wise, if you're using it outside of china, the gaming chip likely won't make much of a difference and after testing a handful of SD8G3 and D9300+ phones, they all kinda perform similarly. the screen is also better on the neo10, so if you game and stare at the screen more, having a nicer screen will improve the experience.

@@axhng ok , but it weird that they advertised the iqoo neo 9s pro plus having more anutu score than iqoo neo 10.

@@axhng im talking about china versions btw and it's iqoo neo 9s pro plus not iqoo neo 9s pro

@@ijlibg7061 yeah. the 9s pro+ has the same chip and ultrasonic sensor too, but was just saying in general that most phones with Sd8gen3 and d9300+ are really similar in the end. if there are small differences, it's mostly to how each brand "tunes" their performance. and between those two, the Neo10 has an edge because of the reasons i mentioned earlier. charging bypass, better quality screen, and well, slightly larger battery too. if the pricing are similar, i think there's no reason to go for the neo9 series anymore considering the screen isn't that good for eye strain. in regards to benchmark scores, i wouldn't care about that since even for the same exact phone model, different reviewers might get different results depending on a multitude of factors. like their test location temperature, whether the phones are being cooled (and how, since i know some will even just put the entire phone into a freezer to get higher benchmarks scores), and every chip might have variance too. some higher bin chips might perform better, and some lower bin ones might perform a bit worse. pretty much like CPU chips. but in the end, in actual gaming where the chips won't be pushed as hard as in benchmarks, those minor variations will not matter as much, which is why i mentioned like there isn't a huge difference. well, as long as the conditions are similar since a SD8Gen3 in a smaller phone with poorer heat dissipation won't perform as well.

@@axhng ok , I'm gonna get the neo 10 soon.

@@batsoupp if gaming performance is important to you and you have the budget, iQOO 13. SD8 Elite is a massive upgrade over 8 Gen 3 when playing more intensive games. Since a lot of games in the global market won’t be able to take full advantage of the gaming chip, the main SoC itself becomes more important. Plus it has usb 3.2 with display output. Which gives more options for gaming. Plus better speakers, haptics, camera (slightly), ip rating. If you’re on a tighter budget… I feel like just getting any SD8Gen3 phone or D9300+ will give the similar experience. Unless you’re specially looking for a brand new phone with good screen, big battery,and charging bypass. 😂

yeah. i think part of it is that for the frame generation to work well with low latency on a phone, it might need to be specifically optimised since thermals is a very big concern on phones... but then in vivo's case, their method of require games to be whitelisted means that even games that should have been optimised for frame generation already like Genshin, is being restricted to the Chinese client, and not working for the global client. quite disappointing to see. or perhaps it's intentional so that ppl will buy their global versions instead of importing the cheaper Chinese variants. 🤣

yeah... i feel the same too. FuntouchOS is a dealbreaker for me too. 🤣

the cables are fixed and can't be changed. well, it might be possible to DIY, but then for IEMs at this price, not worth the effort imo.

i didn't try that since i don't have a USB-C monitor and they don't specifically list DP Alt Mode support, but my guess is that it does? the adapter i'm using i believe is using DP Alt Mode to connect to the display based on the product listing. 😅

@@axhngOh. Thanks for the info. Really appreciate it🙂

i think you meant in Wuthering Waves right? that's just how their UI interacts with controller actually. they have that sort of cursor-like indicator when selecting stuff.