Messering around

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@tempestbladeargus Күн бұрын

Got him!

@RodneyKatana Күн бұрын

It's always resassuring to know that I'm not the only person who does cool stuff with all kinds of swords

@afterzanzibar 14 күн бұрын

Awesome follow through with those cuts!

@Mika_565 24 күн бұрын

What kind of glove do you wear for the saber? My club only allows olympic saber because they've seen too many fingers broken with military saber and light gloves, so I haven't gotten to try it.

@messeringaround1426 24 күн бұрын

I'm using Thokk gloves now. Before getting them, I used Red Dragon gloves (with SPES finger tip protectors for the thumb and pinky) for saber.

@Mika_565 24 күн бұрын

@@messeringaround1426 Thanks!

@KF1 Ай бұрын

Nice cuts. Your yard is beautiful.

@messeringaround1426 Ай бұрын

Thank you. Getting more of the pretty autumn colors in view was a factor when setting up the camera this time.

@KF1 Ай бұрын

@@messeringaround1426 worked out. Nice setting. For a tatami alternative, have you tried rolled soaked cardboard? 54oz dry weight soaked 48hrs can be a lot of fun, especially with dowel centers. The cartons look too easy for you. I have a vid on how to make them if you want to try. Most cardboard is free and readily available. 5/8"-3/4" dowels feel pretty good when soaked as centers. Oak is significantly harder than LVL or poplar, but anything works

@messeringaround1426 Ай бұрын

I haven't tried cardboard so far. Maybe I will, but soon it's going to be too cold for a wet cutting medium.

@KF1 Ай бұрын

@@messeringaround1426 buddy got a large rubbermaid container so he could soak indoors. I find rolls are better than bottles in the winter to avoid the skating rink effect underfoot. Nice cuts as always.

@tempestbladeargus Ай бұрын

Super clean cuts my friend.

@the_timinator77 Ай бұрын

I've recently been studying Leckuchner's book and these videos have been very helpful. Thank you for the effort you've done to make these and help the rest of us!!!!!💯💯💯💯💯

@gnarrcan108 Ай бұрын

Honestly w the handle length on that arming sword you could probably use some 2 handed techniques.

@messeringaround1426 Ай бұрын

The handle of the arming sword isn't long enough to reasonably fit two hands. There is also little need - it's nimble enough to easily wield with one hand.

@vinny142 2 ай бұрын

Nicely done! A waste of products, but I guess making some sort of bamboo is quite hard.

@messeringaround1426 Ай бұрын

None of the cartons still had their original contents. The only difference is that they were recycled in two pieces each instead of one.

@tempestbladeargus 2 ай бұрын

Awesome blade work 😁👏

@jbk20061 2 ай бұрын

I like the dynamic rather than static cutting. The cut-thrust combos and use of footwork to approach and retreat help show the practical applications in context. Thanks for the ideas. I'm also going to start saving my juice and milk containers! 🤦🤘

@messeringaround1426 2 ай бұрын

If you liked that there is more test cutting in the same style here kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKHXiXSigZmHpZI

@weaselrampant 2 ай бұрын

Holding the messer by the pommel gives me the ick.

@tempestbladeargus 2 ай бұрын

awesome

@tempestbladeargus 2 ай бұрын

awesome cuts and fantastic longsword

@KF1 2 ай бұрын

Nicely done. It's awesome when the top part stays in place

@koi.sakana 2 ай бұрын

Clean cuts my friend

@ВладимирЕлин-н9н 3 ай бұрын

What gloves use man in blue?

@messeringaround1426 3 ай бұрын

Thokk

@harithhasrat2671 3 ай бұрын

Nice

@andyappleton3353 3 ай бұрын

Good. Now you're ready...to take on anybody.

@milesschwab5705 3 ай бұрын

Did you shake the bottles first?

@messeringaround1426 3 ай бұрын

No need. You get enough of an effect from the cut itself.

@acirumvonheiligen6979 4 ай бұрын

That is awesome, I wish I could have a friend to practice that. You guys got a new subscriber!

@alexhunt7810 4 ай бұрын

you guys know you're allowed to use passing steps right?

@kryztyanospqkenzington7716 4 ай бұрын

I recently did some cutting on pool noodles for the first time and never realised how difficult it is. That blade does some brilliant cuts, it looks lie you are barely putting effort in, when I tried I had to swing with all my force using my whole body. Kinda makes me wonder this sword or a Lockwood?

@messeringaround1426 4 ай бұрын

Pool noodles are soft, so they don't need much power. However, they are quite picky about the edge alignment. If the cut isn't good enough the noodles will just bend out of the way of the cut.

@05comiti37 4 ай бұрын

wait is that a pair of feiyue kung fu shoes?

@messeringaround1426 4 ай бұрын

Correct.

@05comiti37 4 ай бұрын

@@messeringaround1426 That's surprising to see them outside China, how do you find them compare to skate shoes, say Converse?

@messeringaround1426 4 ай бұрын

One of the things I really like about them is the rounded edges of the soles. It's been a very long time since I had a pair of Converse, so I can't really make a good comparison.

@torus9657 4 ай бұрын

@@05comiti37 they sell in many countries now, I just picked up a pair of the Bruce Lee limited edition ones for my taekwondo training and I live in the UK; shipped very fast and I love them

@presarioman 4 ай бұрын

Beachmatta?

@messeringaround1426 4 ай бұрын

Yes, it's pairs of beach mats rolled together. Really cheap when bought off-season, but more expensive right now during the summer.

@dallasburnworth 4 ай бұрын

It's interesting to me how similar the plays of the messer are to Filipino martial art. This video maps perfectly into the roof and shield in FMA. Shield is the deflection on the weapon side. Roof is the deflection on the open side. Just keep the sword high enough so that your own blade or stick doesn't rebound into your head when there is really hard impact.

@messeringaround1426 4 ай бұрын

I suppose there is a bit of convergent evolution going on. Similar implements and similar problems ending up with similar solutions. Is Shield a point forward defense usually followed up with a thrust, while Roof is a point offline defense usually followed up with a cut?

@dallasburnworth 4 ай бұрын

@@messeringaround1426 Shield is weapon side, and roof is the opposite. Both are typically followed with a cut, but depending upon timing, distance, etc. could be a thrust. Because the stick or sword in FMA is usually 30 inches or less, the ranges tend to be closer.

@Ranstone 4 ай бұрын

Bro is filming in the Rick-Roll tunnel.

@curtisthornsberry4236 4 ай бұрын

Never let him give you up or let you down. He is never gonna messer around and hurt you.

@lennartfuest6138 4 ай бұрын

Nice channel and i get what you mean with the Video, it makes sense. But you are wrong about that, that in most pictures the arm is kept behind the back. When you look closely you can see that both fencers have the hand behind the back when they are in off lead or have their left leg forwards. But in almost all illustrations when they are in regular lead, the right fencer has the hand behind the back and the left one on the chest. Problably to Show that you can do both at any time in lead Position. So its wrong to say that that both have the hand behind the back, the left fencer has it in most situations in lead position on the chest

@messeringaround1426 4 ай бұрын

Yes, the option of placing the left arm across the chest is mentioned in Lecküchner's text (and also the video). Also when I look for them there, are more illustrations when the left arm is placed across the chest than I realized. Still I prefer the behind the back option most of the time. It's easier for the arm to drift forward and become a target again, when it is across the chest.

@WinnipegKnightlyArts 4 ай бұрын

Good video, being able to recover against a surprise Abnehmen is really important, and ofte the Bogen is the fastest option available.

@messeringaround1426 4 ай бұрын

Yes. While Bogen has its issues, it is both fast and easy, making it a good option when things don't go according to plan.

@jj13ag 4 ай бұрын

Loving the emergency Bogen! 🔥

@hurpaderpp 5 ай бұрын

is the only way to learn this in a fencing or hema school?

@chanalan7670 5 ай бұрын

Were the black fencer doing Meyer rappier? Noticed him didn't put the finger in the ring lol

@messeringaround1426 5 ай бұрын

I'm the fencer in the blue jacket, but I know a bit about my sparring partner's choice to not use the finger ring. While the finger ring is there to protect the index finger the protection is far from 100%. If you've put your index finger over the quillon and the finger gets hit, the quillon acts like an anvil. It's happened to me a couple of times and it's really quite painful. This is why my sparring partner sometimes chooses not to put the index finger through the finger ring.

@chanalan7670 5 ай бұрын

@@messeringaround1426 That sounds nasty, personally I've yet to receive any hit on the index finger that was pain enough for me to refuse from using the quillon with my Gabriel 2.0 and Red Dragoon, but that is subject to change anytime!

@messeringaround1426 5 ай бұрын

Most of the time I still use the finger ring. I have only stopped doing that when fencing left-handed with this sword (the asymmetry of the guard matters, when it comes to the protection of the index finger).

@tubby921 5 ай бұрын

Ngl I spent most of the time watching the dudes duel wielding in the back

@assassain0425 5 ай бұрын

Your name Alone gets u the subscription

@messeringaround1426 5 ай бұрын

The channel needed a name and I live in what is supposed to be the pun capital of Sweden. It's almost as if I didn't have a choice at all 😉

@GandBeckz 6 ай бұрын

Vart i Sverige? Försöker nätverka och se var alla utövare befinner sig i landet

@messeringaround1426 6 ай бұрын

Göteborg

@messeringaround1426 6 ай бұрын

The camera had some ideas of its own regarding focus :-/ Probably caused by the wind moving things in the foreground.

@curtisthornsberry4236 6 ай бұрын

I’ve done this with long sword quite a few times. Opponents didn’t respond nearly as quickly.

@TheSinisterSwordsman 6 ай бұрын

I see you too are a practitioner/enjoyer of the messer matrix dodge

@messeringaround1426 6 ай бұрын

What else to do, when you are interrupted mid-feint?

@TheSinisterSwordsman 6 ай бұрын

@@messeringaround1426 indeed

@messeringaround1426 7 ай бұрын

If I were to order another sparring messer from LE, I would order a thick blunt Gottfried again. The only thing I would change would be to add pommel/pommel cap. The part of the handle that sticks out will take hits from time to time and there is no getting away from the fact that steel is harder than wood.

@KF1 7 ай бұрын

Nice job keeping the sword up, that's cool

@JianfaJourney 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for a great video! I was inspired to make a short using the Chinese Short Sword (Duanjian) with this idea in mind.

@tempestbladeargus 7 ай бұрын

Awesome slashes friend

@messeringaround1426 7 ай бұрын

Haven't done any cutting at all so far this year, but it seems I will soon be able to get my hands on tatami again.

@tempestbladeargus 7 ай бұрын

@@messeringaround1426 awesome 😎

@MikkoAPenttila 7 ай бұрын

Does the glove help stabilize the messer when gripping it so far back?

@messeringaround1426 7 ай бұрын

I'm the fencer in the blue jacket, so I don't know. However, I know my sparring partner has a habit of gripping other one-handers far down the grip too, so he is certainly used to holding it like that.

@JianfaJourney 7 ай бұрын

Good Stuff!

@JianfaJourney 7 ай бұрын

Nice exchange. Thanks for sharing!

@runaway9098 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the slow motion breakdown of what specifically happened!

@drasilvos8461 7 ай бұрын

Omg, ok, this could be really cool and nice if you fix the freggin' audio while doing the slow-motion part. No one wants to hear that.

@chae7684 13 күн бұрын

I mean it's not unbearable but just muting it maybe even putting a voiceover of what's happening over it would be a lot better

@marshturtle6576 8 ай бұрын

He's holding the sidesword wrong

@Sir_Jordan2032 8 ай бұрын

Thy bros shall duelith till success!

@messeringaround1426 8 ай бұрын

About the last Zucken variant (67r) in the video - Something I apparently skipped over when recording the video is that the text actually does not avoid blade contact and instead pulls back to switch side *after* contact. For the purposes of a solo drill this does not make that much difference, but I still think it should be clarified.

@colebertram8482 8 ай бұрын

what color is the grip ? Ox blood?

@messeringaround1426 8 ай бұрын

Yes.

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