Thanks for the video. Very clear and understandable. If you have started using chlorine in a hot tub, is it possible to switch to bromine or are there special things that must be done first? Could you still use the same "Bob" or would you need a different one that didn't have chlorine in it? We just got a hot tub and it would be interesting to see if our skin felt better or worse as a result. Thanks.
@DavidVanDerEems2 ай бұрын
I have built 5 decks with sunken tubs with no issue. Why do you ask, because I create a removable 2' track around the hot tub.
@samanderson7745Ай бұрын
Yes, this. Just build the deck so you have access to the tub.
@berto012 ай бұрын
The previous homeowners had a new deck built around existing hot tub sealing it off forever against future repairs. I could access front panel, pumps ext but that was it. It developed a leak on a corner and I had to cut it to pieces to get it out. Looking on how too repair deck hole now.
@girodiaz2 ай бұрын
thank you for the information. I have a Jacuzzi 512 gallon. The problem is that the water that’s coming from outside. It’s like salty and my filter gets clogged quick. what can i do
@SRussell-se8if3 ай бұрын
Omg you seriously need an education on salt water systems. I don’t say that as a bitter salesman but instead someone who’s been in the industry for 30 years. Just goes to show people, don’t believe everything you see on the www!! 😂
@timothydevries3834 ай бұрын
I've had enough of American junk and ill considered 'innovation'. There are very good reasons why spas have always used Bromine.
@aclspals8065 ай бұрын
I want to order a hard shell hot tub cover. How can I ?
@JujuPig-vz5mq5 ай бұрын
Do you have an opinion on the"Clear Comfort"system-hydrogen peroxide/UV-C sanitizing unit.
@1962beaches7 ай бұрын
So we should put chemicals that have skull and bones on the bottle!?
@thehottubman18937 ай бұрын
I would advise to not eat hot tub chemicals.
@CowboyPants-h5p21 күн бұрын
Those bottles contain chemicals that are corrosive. Once diluted in an 800gal tub, no problem. Got it?
@terrykirby32068 ай бұрын
What is a really nice Swim Spa to purchase these days? Between 12-15 foot?
@rickhoffard70208 ай бұрын
If what you say is true, which I don’t agree I have a saltwater pool for 15 years and never had any corrosion problems. What’s your answer to that, sir?
@thehottubman18937 ай бұрын
Pools and hot tubs are not the same thing. While saltwater systems may have worked for your swimming pool, they may not be a viable option for your hot tub. With a hot tub saltwater system, you risk under and over-chlorinating your water, damaging the hot tub components and shell, and a much higher maintenance cost.
@Rambo_IIII8 ай бұрын
It's not the type of chemical, it's the amount of it. Chlorine generating systems add chlorine regardless of any other variables, and saltwater spa users, in virtually every case, end up over chlorinating their spa regularly, because what they don't realize is, if you suddenly don't use your hot tub for a week, well guess what, your chlorine generator is still going to be adding chlorine every single day, and those levels will get really high. The water has a very high ORP all the time, and ends up corroding metal components, usually starting with the heater and the jets. Seen it hundreds of times.
@SeeTheWholeTruth8 ай бұрын
You dont use either.. you use Epsom Salt, and you utilize a different system.
@Tandycakes1599 ай бұрын
Hold on, bromine generators were found to be carcinogenic, but you're still recommending people use bromine?
@brucevocke48479 ай бұрын
I didn't get it either.
@thehottubman18939 ай бұрын
I've learned more since making this video! Here's what I found: -I'm from Canada, I didn't realize we were the only country to ban Bromine generators due to them being carcinogenic. -I also, found out that they did not ban them because they, themselves, were carcinogenic, but if the client put in the wrong mix of chemicals into a salt-bromine hot tub, that then it could become carcinogenic. Because bromine-salt generators are not a part of my daily work life, I can't give an opinion on whether I think they're a good idea. However, because they still use salt, I can't imagine, they would be less corrosive. Cheers!
@CowboyPants-h5p21 күн бұрын
Bromine is NOT carcinogenic. Give me a break. So dumb.....are you MAGA too?
@bobstevens530610 ай бұрын
But the power is out and no electricity to run space heater?
@thehottubman189310 ай бұрын
Oh, I see the confusion. What I'm referring to, is a loss of power to the hot tub. Quite often, if you have an issue with your hot tub, your GFCI breaker will trip, and you will no longer be able to power your hot tub. In the event of a total power loss to your property that will not resolve itself for a day or more, you will need to winterize your spa. Hope this helps!
@jamesmaltese4437Ай бұрын
I have a portable generator that runs my house lights. I'll use my generator to run the space heater
@thehottubchannel433510 ай бұрын
"Salt Water" in hot tubs existed before Electrolysis devices and never had issues until "salt water devices" became mainstream for hot tubs in 2006. Before that it was called an A-B system, consisting of Part A (Sodium Bromide) and Part B (MPS Shock). You put Sodium Bromide in the water like you would now, but instead of using an overpriced electrolysis device you simply added oxidizer per use and once a week to create the sanitizer you need. But now, you can't use MPS with electrolysis devices without creating carcinogenic gas. Totally ruined a perfectly good salt system, just so manufactures could make an extra couple hundred a sale. Want "salt water"? go back to the way we used to do it before. No electrolysis device, no more electrolytic corrosion.
@MaxItUpwithMarta10 ай бұрын
Royal Tubs says not to use regular salt and instead to use magnesium salt.
@crapseven10 ай бұрын
I am totally backing up your statements here. I want buyers to beware as well. My dear friend who has been selling hot tub spas for years told me to absolutely not buy into the salt water systems. They are corrosive as you say. She stated tubs are being ruined. She is in Tyler, Texas. I live in Tennessee and the closest dealer here who's salesman I spent a day with told me "The Hot Springs Spas are built with non corrosive parts" I relayed this to my friend in Texas and she said what you said. "That is not true" & recommended Bromine as a sanitizer. I can tell you the only thing more corrosive than salt is a salesman that lies to you perhaps working for a company that is more concerned with making money on repairs and sales than the longevity of rthe customers investment. If you are new like me. Do your homework and do not listen to what a salesman says. If anything look and act dumb when you walk in the door and put your salesman to the test. See if he is hones before you even consider buying from that company.. Thanks Hot Tub Man.
@thehottubman18939 ай бұрын
Really appreciate the comment!! I'm glad that you listened to your friend! Unfortunately, most salesmen are just repeating what they have been trained to say, and I doubt most of them know that they are teaching incorrect information. I learned more in the first 6 months of repairing hot tubs, than I did the first 6 years of selling them. Cheers
@thomaspope15259 ай бұрын
I ended up buying a Caribbean 3 hot tub from Four Winds. I know it’s not built quite like a comparable Jacuzzi brand but it was half the price. Saved close to 10k.
@904C5ZOSIX11 ай бұрын
Man i get the hot tub rash. Would salt be better for my condition?
@thehottubman189311 ай бұрын
Hey there, I'm sorry to hear that, hot tub rash sucks. Do you know what kind of hot tub rash you're getting? #1 Sensitive skin paired with too much chlorine, or bromine. #2 Pseudomonas folliculitis (a bacteria infection) likely from having too little chlorine or bromine If you just have sensitive skin you'll likely have itchiness, chapped or dry skin, and redness If you are getting Pseudomonas folliculitis you'll likely have itchiness, red bumps, and swelling When it comes to salt systems, it's important to remember it's still chlorine, so may not help, but I do find most people use WAY too much chemical in their hot tub. So having a salt system regulate their hot tub chemical level may help them. I also have sensitive skin, yet I never shower after using my hot tub, and don't dry out because I use the proper amount of sanitizer. Try to keep your sanitizer level on the low end of your “okay level” on your strip, especially if it's a minimum amount of people using the spa.
@JujuPig-vz5mq5 ай бұрын
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@debartellomartinez7214 Жыл бұрын
I don't support stupid moustaches and clown hair, sorry.
@jnash1632 Жыл бұрын
Use epsome salt and do not electrify.
@thehottubman1893 Жыл бұрын
If you're only using epsom salt in your hot tub, proceed with caution. Epsom salts, being mildly acidic, can disrupt the pH balance and alkalinity of the water. This misalignment can trigger various problems, potentially compromising the cleanliness and longevity of your hot tub. There is safe epsom salts for hot tubs, mostly for scent, that you use in very small douses. Unfortunately epsom salts have a knack for causing corrosion in your hot tub, affecting seals, gaskets, metal, and plastic components. The spa pump and spa heater are especially vulnerable, not to mention, they're just not strong enough to kill the bacteria that grows off of all the sweat your body gives off while your soaking. Please reach out if you have any questions
@craigsmith4436 Жыл бұрын
20+ years of servicing hot tubs, and I've been using the hood-welded-shut analogy for a dozen years too! I have a video that shows NINE reasons sinking a hot tub in a hole is a bad idea.
@volleydave2012 Жыл бұрын
What about a soft tub
@thehottubman1893 Жыл бұрын
If you're referring to the brand Softub, I would say this is especially true. I sold Softubs for some time, and I found that the liners are extremely sensitive to chemicals. They tend to dry out and eventually crack if your sanitizer gets too high. Where I am, a Softub re-lining costs about $2000 and because of the lack of businesses that offer the service, there is a 6-month wait period. Stick with bromine, and be careful about using too much. Leave the lid off for 20 minutes after adding any shock or bromine granules to let it gas off. Hope this helps!
@SRussell-se8if3 ай бұрын
Like comparing a go kart to a corvette.
@sherristouffer3428 Жыл бұрын
Hi! We are wrestling with a salt system on a hot tub we now own, but didn't choose ourselves. I'm trying to figure out if we can disable the stupid system and go back to the bromine we used on our old hot tub which died of old age. Help!! 😂
@thehottubman1893 Жыл бұрын
You absolutely can! Simply start with fresh water, don't add the salt solution, and start using your bromine, just like before. :) You likely will not need to remove the salt system from your hot tub, without salt it won't be able to create chlorine.
@seanmikhaels Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great info, I Just bought a tub with a salt system , the price of the titanium cartridges that need to be replaced every four months at almost 150 a pop. Considering that and now learning about its corrosiveness, not sure if it’s worth it
@JujuPig-vz5mq5 ай бұрын
& so what are you going to do now? I am researching a system called"Clear Comfort"which is plumbed into the spa. A combination of hydrogen peroxide & UVC disinfection.Clear Comfort is currently being used in a few University swimming pools to date with successful scientifically backed test results & there is a hot tub application available for $1,500 up front $300 annually for replacement cartridge only other chemical needed & very seldom at that is pH-ing nothing else is required. I'm highly thinking of this latest option.
@LockPickingCuber Жыл бұрын
Newb question: does "off" here mean electronically turned off, or just mechanically closed? In other words, if they're not making any noise, does that mean they're off?
@thehottubman1893 Жыл бұрын
Good question! Most air valves are dials and turning them to the right typically turns them off. The best indicator if it's "on" or "off" is if the bubbles stop coming out of the jets. You may have multiple air valves on your hot tub, each controlling a different part of your spa. If the bubbles don't stop no matter what direction you turn it, the air valve may need to be replaced. Hope this helped!
@thehottubman1893 Жыл бұрын
P.S. the air controls are not hooked up to the electrical system.
@LockPickingCuber Жыл бұрын
@@thehottubman1893 great -- thanks for the helpful response!
@deec676 Жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on hydrogen peroxide? I have reacted to bromine in the past
@thehottubman1893 Жыл бұрын
I do not recommend hydrogen peroxide for use in hot tubs for a couple of reasons, Unlike the 3% drugstore variety, commercial-grade peroxide strong enough to be effective in pools or hot tubs ranges from 25% to 35% concentration. It can be dangerous to store, transport, and handle. It does an ok job of killing bacteria at 30-40 PPM, but you've got to watch it very closely. At very high levels, it can burn lungs and eyes. It can also cost more to use than other systems. Often when people have had a bad reaction to chlorine or bromine, it's often that there was way too much of one of them in the water, or that there was bacteria in the water. I've even seen people have reactions to descaling agents, so I would try to eliminate each chemical individually. And always wait 24 hours after adding any chemical before using the hot tub to give it time to dissipate. Hope this helps!
@JujuPig-vz5mq5 ай бұрын
If you want to do your own research there is a company that has come out with a sanitization unit which uses hydrogen peroxide/UVC disinfection. Clear Comfort system is being used in a few college campus swimming pools/therapy recovery(hot tubs) also has been scientifically tested backed for it's complete effectiveness(Google it) Clear Comfort has a hot tub unit available, the problem I have with Clear Comfort is the upfront & annual cost $1,500 then $300.00 annually for a replacement cartridge but all other chemicals are discarded no longer needed other than having to ph your water every so often but that's it.
@SRussell-se8if3 ай бұрын
How do you test peroxide in a spa? It’s dangerous and there’s far better options out there.
@stevetheplumber Жыл бұрын
I'm sure salt had something to do with those handlebars.....lol
@thehottubman1893 Жыл бұрын
These are strictly bromine handlebars, thank you very much.