Such a great video. Thank you. My MAWL did not come with a manual. So amazing video.
@slaytanic921Ай бұрын
Great review, especially for the info on the battery pack.
@wilcoxtactical37162 ай бұрын
If you came to see even the most basic demonstration of it, you can leave not. This tard doesnt even turn it on the entire review.
@davidkim98982 ай бұрын
Spectacular articulated review thank you for your comment about the battery life
@FordGTmaniac2 ай бұрын
I'm so glad I found out these exist. With an AR15 build you can mount this to a detachable carry handle with a Weaver tri rail, and have an ACOG, RMR red dot, and Vortex's rail mounted laser rangefinder all together at once and it looks insane.
@ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣΑΥΤΟΚΡΑΤΟΡΑΣ2 ай бұрын
Do any surefire lasers burn ?
@johnrose4113 ай бұрын
What vendor did you use?
@joejoeseesingtons3 ай бұрын
Best review yet
@carloscentenocastro90054 ай бұрын
Awesome video. I just pulled the trigger on picking one up after seeing this.
@MontanaTonyy5 ай бұрын
I just picked this up for $420. Appreciate your honest review. For the price along with the micro 3x for $199, I couldn’t let the lifetime warranty go 😅
@usmclucas5 ай бұрын
Just ordered for my SCAR L. Can't wait!
@klane77 ай бұрын
I wojld be scared for burns..
@Gigachad_9710 ай бұрын
I believe the reason they choose to gate going from 4 to 5 would be so you don’t have negligent white light use. You have to intentionally switch them from one to the other. On larger devices this would usually be implemented with a safety screw, but size constraints made this the better option.
@YAGERMFG10 ай бұрын
The weird thing is there *is* a safety screw hole in place there, but it doesn't matter if you take it out.
@Gigachad_9710 ай бұрын
@@YAGERMFG interesting, what I was saying was simply a guess anyhow.
@tymarkham393111 ай бұрын
Thanks for the information. I almost brought one😅
@besweetparakeet11 ай бұрын
So it’s it at exempt 😅
@markanthonypar-wise1499 Жыл бұрын
Interesting,but can this go on a pvs 14? . That's what I have a photonis echo to be exact
@them499411 ай бұрын
Yes, it can
@dijax7863 Жыл бұрын
Its a toy.
@williamwhite1982 Жыл бұрын
This was a great technical review!
@brandondias2881 Жыл бұрын
I really want this but I’m not willing to lose the ability to run the tarsier eclipse
@brisketbaron Жыл бұрын
It’s a chunky unit. Granted it does do everything. Nice.
@Life-of-Riley Жыл бұрын
Can you fit it behind focus rings ?
@nikogonzalez6539 Жыл бұрын
Great review man. Thanks.
@zebwalton979 Жыл бұрын
Love mine. It’s duty-grade for sure. Good, sound construction and reliability. The flickering isn’t something you notice when you’re experiencing an adrenaline dump... gotta be realistic in your review.
@YAGERMFG Жыл бұрын
The flickering isn't just about being ugly and annoying (although it is) - it's about what it tells you about their electrical engineering (probably not good). If a competent electrical engineer had their say on this design, they would probably either use a much higher frequency PWM or a constant current regulator. The flickering suggests to me that there was either a poor design process or cut corners.
@RocketPropelledGuy6 күн бұрын
@@YAGERMFG It's most likely intentionally done instead of a poor design process. It's to increase battery life in comparison to the EOTech design. In order to completely eliminate this (it's called the phantom array effect, visible only during very quick lateral movement), an extremely high pulse frequency rate is demanded. To entirely eliminate it will want nearly 2000 Hz. Trouble is in order for the laser diode to have a stable wavelength (which is necessary for undistorted reconstruction of the reticle hologram and point of aim shifting from the point of impact), avoid multi-mode operation, and keep the diode from generating so much heat it kills itself the only method left (besides something physically in the path of the beam like a polarizer that could be rotated) to be able to adjust perceived brightness to the user is to run it in duty cycles with pulse width modulation to exploit persistence of vision. Combining the two, pulse width and pulse frequency modulation requires confronting the constraints imposed by a laser diode. Generating that high of a frequency requires pulses that are separated in nanosecond scales. In the EOTech design a microcontroller was needed to send 2 pulses at once through separate circuits that have slightly different resistance from one another. It is IMO a poor design decision by Vortex but there have been some issues with parasitic battery drain, so I can understand Vortex not wanting to exacerbate that if they have been unable determine the cause of the excessive drain some of them have. If they have though they should just bite the bullet and accept the lower battery life to avoid the phantom array issue. People who see the value in holographic sights do not care too much about the battery life, they expect it to be short.
@YAGERMFG4 күн бұрын
@@RocketPropelledGuy interesting explanation, but frequency and modal stability under ~1-2kHz PWM with, say, 10k:1 max duty cycle ratio, should be very doable with modern diode lasers.
@RocketPropelledGuy3 күн бұрын
@ right, this is why it seems more like intentional, a poor design choice rather than someone not pointing that out
@chrisstyles266 Жыл бұрын
I have a gen 1 and love it.
@procession101 Жыл бұрын
Own the gen 2 UH-1 and love it. Unlike my prior EOTech that dimmed our due to a leak and was out of warranty, my Huey has a lifetime warranty that Vortex will repair or replace it with. Can’t go wrong with this holographic.
@YAGERMFG Жыл бұрын
I would not recommend EOTechs due to their gas leak problems (I have killed several that way), and I would not recommend vortex for the reasons given in this video. Just stick with aimpoint if you want an RDS
@GiggidySquad Жыл бұрын
So no c2. What about the c5?
@mojoe8005 Жыл бұрын
If use the battery pack to shut off device then turn the scroll switch off u know the batt pack will be off and it won’t drain over time
@YAGERMFG Жыл бұрын
The battery pack has electronics in it. It has significant parasitic drain even if not connected to the thermal imager.
@mojoe8005 Жыл бұрын
@@YAGERMFG weird if I use the power button on mine it doesn’t drain at all when hooked up I figured it out cause it used to if I left the battery pack on even when device off maybe test out what I said in first comment
@mojoe8005 Жыл бұрын
@@YAGERMFG I’ve had mine plugged in and all hooked up for almost a year now without touching it and it turns on and ran for hours use the power button on batt pack if u dnt shut the pack off it will drain mine used to till I figured it out
@Zuercher Жыл бұрын
Why would anybody living in the states buy chinese hardware?
@YAGERMFG Жыл бұрын
If you would like to buy me a $10k safran unit, I would be happy to do a review
@Cruzer9392 Жыл бұрын
In a realistic use situation, you will never notice the flickering of the reticle.
@YAGERMFG Жыл бұрын
The flickering reticle is evidence that it's poorly made, which you will definitely notice if it breaks during a realistic use situation. Low frequency PWM = low quality electronics design.
@Cruzer9392 Жыл бұрын
@@YAGERMFG If that was the case, you would hear about that failing. As of right now, battery drain is the issue everyone complains about. Haven’t heard of the reticle dying.
@YAGERMFG Жыл бұрын
Battery drain is related to the quality of electronics.
@zezimadude13 Жыл бұрын
Your intimate knowledge of optic design and engineering won my sub bro. Very interesting stuff. Do you design optics or did you at some point?
@YAGERMFG Жыл бұрын
I used to work in a research lab that did a bunch of optics work, but I'm also just a big time optics nerd
@FinalLugiaGuardian Жыл бұрын
Dumb question. Are the lasers and Illuminator all co-aligned? IE If you zero the laser have you zeroed the IR illuminator too?
@YAGERMFG Жыл бұрын
Yep!
@dr.paninozzo2421 Жыл бұрын
But do you not see the projector at the center of the tube you applied it on? If not, why not?
@YAGERMFG Жыл бұрын
Read through the comments - someone else asked the same. Short version is "depth of field"
@Язепс Жыл бұрын
No offense yet - chinese made - I do not trust the people we are seeing oppsing us economicly, medicinally, scientificly, nor militarily as viable from buying from No lack of respect that you do As long as you reserve the right to use it on them if they invade your (our homeland) But I will never buy outside of American made (to put vack again what I can into the American economy)
@profexb2409 Жыл бұрын
Where can you find this for 2000 dollars ?? I want 2 please !
@Len_M. Жыл бұрын
I have a X400U-A-GN on my HK45CT I’d like to get 2 of these one in FDE for my Glock 19X and get it milled for a Trijicon SRO and one in Black with and milled for a black SRO for my USP Tactical 45 or 45CT and sell the X400 or use it on my Benelli M4.
@rmlittorio8662 Жыл бұрын
your videos are so good (great comprehensive information) and the filming is exactly what i’m looking for (i.e. showing the product in great lighting without distraction).. love your quality, hope your channel grows in time to come.
@trailertrashtactics Жыл бұрын
Just ordered mine. Thank you for the information!
@bobmths Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love mine . I love the wide window as well it is soooo much wider than some Of my red dots and absolutely love the micro 3x as well. They are both light weight.
@jerryshafer1688 Жыл бұрын
What Micro 3x are you refering to?
@bobmths Жыл бұрын
@@jerryshafer1688 there is only one micro 3 it’s made by vortex eotech has there brand and holosun has there’s
@bobmths Жыл бұрын
@@jerryshafer1688 so the g43 is made by eotech and hm3x is made by holosun vortex is the micro3x bud so that’s the one I’m referring to
@maximusjoseppi59043 ай бұрын
what? this optic is extremely heavy haha. theres nothing light weight about it.
@bobmths3 ай бұрын
@@maximusjoseppi5904 well if you lift weights and workout and not lay around it wouldn’t feel heavy ha ha ha . I run it with a micro 3x and it’s great and not heavy ha ha
@ericlofroos2405 Жыл бұрын
This is probably the dumbest question ever, but what type of scopes do you recommend to use with this? Does the scope itself have to be a red dot, or have IR capability? Can you use a 1-8 LPVO?
@trailertrashtactics Жыл бұрын
Regardless your optic is completely separate from the laser/illuminator. You don't shoot your laser through your optic. You actively aim with the laser. If you want to shoot passively. Without a laser, You need an optic with night vision capabilities to shoot decently.
@aesthetic87806 ай бұрын
What has the optic to do with the laser?
@andrewcopeland1517 Жыл бұрын
I like the McDonald’s caps
@YAGERMFG Жыл бұрын
They're my corporate sponsor
@tntviewer9431 Жыл бұрын
Would this work with a NVG10??
@YAGERMFG Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, but I would suggest spending the money to upgrade your monocular before buying thermals
@tntviewer9431 Жыл бұрын
@@YAGERMFG ok thanks
@bsdiceman Жыл бұрын
Why doesn't the projector block out the center of the NV view?
@YAGERMFG Жыл бұрын
Objective lenses, either on a camera or on NVGs or elsewhere, effectively gather a separate copy of the image from every point on their surface. We're just blocking a few of those copies. If you take a small object and hold it directly in front of your pupil, you'll be able to see "around" it as well.
@alexlevinson8629 Жыл бұрын
Subbed, thanks!
@JoeytheGoonSlayer Жыл бұрын
What batteries did you use?
@floatingspaceman993 Жыл бұрын
What lens/filter do you use to go to black and white ?
@YAGERMFG Жыл бұрын
I just set the camera to max white balance adjust. Could also do it in post as long as your camera has WB lock
@samuelhorowitz5029PLUMBCRAZY Жыл бұрын
They are not because it does not lock in.. just push connect and the are not the ninety degree connectors. So you can get hung up easier on branches and things like that
@samuelhorowitz5029PLUMBCRAZY Жыл бұрын
He said the bungies make it more balanced/ less tension.. will you get the thermal clip on for tgem?
@samuelhorowitz5029PLUMBCRAZY Жыл бұрын
He also said what out using the 60 degree that you can loose your twelve o'clock view..
@samuelhorowitz5029PLUMBCRAZY Жыл бұрын
Where do you get your sacrificial lenses. And there was a guy from the military he recommends the Wilcox extension mount..
@tf2012 жыл бұрын
If you could have these or PVS-31 alphas which would you get. I like the idea of having an expanded field of view but I also like factory built L3 and Eotech NVGs