nvm i get it now :) that firewall really play its role

Aspect is most important on both, I'd try to get max aspect even if you can only afford no GAs. After max aspect I would probably get Gloves: Double Cast > Pyro Skills > AS, don't need firewall size Sword: Skills > BAS > Stats, don't need max resource

@@voidseerxd awesome! Ty!

It's difficult to get huge shatters until very high pits where mobs have enough HP to apply a full burn and spam fireball without them dying before CC timer ends. I think the first shatter was even bigger but for real those def had to be the biggest boss shatters I've ever hit, probably hit for like 7 or 8T

@@voidseerxd OMG I feel dumb! that makes perfect sense! more health pool, bigger capacity to pre load, and not short change the fireball spam, no wonder I was feeling myself that fighting a boss on 150 vs even 155 feels like a noticable difference, my brain wasnt wrapping up what was happening because it felt easier, and does hit harder, I just thought my comfort was tighter so I was ultimately performing tighter, but I def look back and it felt noticably different to me, even in that smaller sample size. Im no where near where you are, but that is such an odd paradigm shift for a build, it's kind of awesome.

@@voidseerxd and yeah dude, you were straight up dropping nukes on her, it's insane to watch so much health dissappear in one shot, just bonkers

if you have the skills and the gear sure it's great for pit

advantage II

loved that build !!

I still die a lot but tons of CDR to keep ice armor up as much as possible is big one I think

@@kylerichings3065 It's a very squishy build, you basically have to know what can kill you and flame shield it or be evasive with teleports.

Control glyph is only active when enemies are CC'd so it doesn't affect shatter damage directly. It does work for when boss is staggered but they are too infrequent to get significant value out of. Also, because this build has low additive from gear, the additive on paragon board is pretty effective and you have to lose out on a lot of it. Losing out on elite damage which is super efficient and works on bosses as well as the extra survivability that I mentioned helps ice armor uptime (massive dps increase) is just too painful.

@@voidseerxd never would've thought of that. your theorycrafting is insanely well thought out and I'm very much looking forward to what you can cook up in S6. kudos to you and thx for the reply. gz again on this very impressive clear!

Yep finding out the hard way hahaha

170: Malice 169: Spiritcaller 165: Scourge 150: Hivemaster, Hag 148: Slither 146: Marauder, Bramble dont even bother: Mother's judgement, den mother, blood bishop my rough estimates of the max potential of each boss (good trash RNG+Shade RNG, optimal gear)

​@@voidseerxd Ok that's good to know, not sure if you have said it before but can you explain the basic gameplay loop? Teleport in Fire wall up, spam fire bolt until frozen then spam a little more then spam fireball til explode?

@@kylerichings3065 Thats the basics of it, it's important to remember the following though: 1. CC timer for elites is 5s, for normal/champions 9s. You have to finish your rotation before this timer ends. 2. Generally you want to send at least 3-4 fireballs minimum to get a decent shatter. 3. If both of the previous conditions are going to be met then applying as much burn as possible will also add massively to your shatter.

​@@voidseerxd Sounds good, I seem to be getting the hang of it not too bad on mobs etc but barely doing any damage on bosses

@@kylerichings3065 if you're at around 140 I would suggest spamming firewall while you group the adds up for your teleport resets until you're sure they'll all get cleaved by flameweaver firebolts. It's very easy to apply too much burn on one particular add if you only group with firebolt, this will make your shatter weak. Remember that the CC timer is 9s for boss adds so you have a lot of time to just group up with firewall. Boss adds have very low HP until very high pit tiers so make sure you're not killing them with the burn and you're able to use enough fireballs before they die.

You must fireball to harvest the burn, also it double dips.

@@voidseerxd thx hey Could I know ur discord ? or I'd like to ask you a few questions, if you don't mind. Can I ask a question if you reply here?

@@voidseerxd It seems that there are specific bosses that can be beaten starting at upper 150++. Can you share information about them?

@@좋무새 I would only suggest malice, scourge, or spiritcaller for 150+

@@voidseerxd I'm also curious why topaz in the weapon instead of sapphire. Is there a theoretical basis? Or due to experience and feeling?

the bosses don't do much damage so it doesn't really matter there (unless you're eating shade stacks), and it will make you a bit squishier on trash but once you learn how to one shot them it's safer than not having ranks

​@@voidseerxd Yeah I'm guessing shade stacks are my main problem. Not the best at dodging that crap

good work on the planners and thank you so much for sharing💯

My rule of thumb is applying burn is good but to make sure you always get around 3-4 fireballs minimum before they shatter. If the adds have very high health (156+ ish) you can start to apply full 6s burn and the remaining time on fireballs (can be upwards of 12 depending on how quickly you grouped them up).

I'm playing the build, but I'm struggling with teleport sometimes not taking me where my mouse is. And I'm dying too much.

@@dustybrown4599 you don't see it in the clears but I struggle with the same things 😂

@@voidseerxd TY, this is good to know!

This is primarily a pit pushing build, I would suggest lightning spear for general content.

I think 170 is probably the theoretical cap, but at that point you would probably need about a 1 in 1k runs RNG and never make a mistake.

+2 Tiers is 1.1225^2 more HP => 26% more HP, so 1 Minute left is not enough :) With insane fishing it might be possible, but it is sooo frustrating to farm Runeshards these days that it is most likely not worth the time investment. Insane accomplishment though!

@@Zaramos666 With absolute giga RNG you could probably get a 12:30-12:20 enter boss room, then get malice with perfect shade rng(rare phase 2 no shade) and get optimal dps on every shatter haha. It's so hard to get perfect shatters every time though, raiment is fickle. 12:30 enter boss room is like 1 in 150 runs though, then 1 in 11 boss. Straight lottery before even mentioning perfect play lol.

I'm not sure it depends on what's the most important content to clear, I'll probably start lightning spear then figure it out.

It's quite gear dependent so first I would check out the planner and make sure you have similar gear to the starter setup (tab bottom left). Then it's all about creating the shatter; group up mobs in as few teleports as you can, firewall, apply burn with firebolt and make sure you're positioning the clump for flameweaver aspect, then use fireballs (at least 3, likely more) to shatter them before the CC timer runs out. CC timer for elites is 5s, 9s for normal/champions.

if the season was a standard 3 months I probably would have but it's very time consuming i'm still trying to clear 168 for my final run if I can get it at all.

I wouldn't suggest this build for anything but pit pushing and uber boss killing. If you insist on this build for general content I would probably use a paragon board like this: maxroll.gg/d4/planner/os1qk0dv Even still, running a lot of ranks of glass cannon and having minimal defensive aspects you will have to play careful against some things (desecrators hit really hard in hordes). What I do is just respec to lightning spear for other types of content since it's turn off brain and almost impossible to die, then spec back when I play pit.

fireball is used to harvest all of your burning damage to make for a big shatter, you will want to use anywhere from about 2-9 fireballs depending on how much time you have before the mobs go unstoppable (elite mobs in 5s, normal/champs in 9s)

@@voidseerxd I still dont get it, u mean fire bolt few times and fire ball one time?

@@howru3q it will depend but on attack speed but for elites you'll want to firebolt for around 2-3 seconds then spam fireball until they explode. You always want to cast at least a few fireballs at the end that's what makes the big shatter

with 2ga (aspd basicskill) 200% verathiel 4ga 93% flameweaver 3ga raiment etc..

As far as I know the build hasn't been nerfed. It really depends on what ends up being most important in the new content, because while this build is strong for pit pushing it is sort of relatively inefficient for other types of game modes. Also the essentially endless pit scaling seems to have been rescaled, I've seen PTR footage of people speed running the max pit level so we'll see if it retains relevancy.

ask away I'm here to help, you need it for both

​@@voidseerxd Thank you so much! So I FINALLY got a GA CDR Shako and wondering if there is a CDR cap? I already triple MW GA CDR on tal rasha and have GA CDR on amulet and focus

What happend to your build link ? Its unknown error now

@@andreanwantah2034 current setup should work now

@@kylerichings3065 CDR is multiplicative and hard caps at 75%. You only need about 65%(maybe even slightly less, depending on evade CDR roll on boots). That's why on the planner I have masterworks on nonphys/int for a couple items because I already have enough CDR to function that i'd rather have more damage.

definitely not immortal i just flame shield the things that would actually kill me

​@@voidseerxdYeah I'll see how it goes once I get all masterworked up. I always seem to die way easier than any of the pit pushing builds I try to follow 😂

@@kylerichings3065 maxroll.gg/d4/planner/omqw408c could try a board like that should help a lot with survivability, if you need more than that could run reinforced instead of unleashed as well

@@kylerichings3065 maxroll.gg/d4/planner/crr110so tankier setup with reinforced

Thanks a lot that's awesome, I'm not looking to get to 167, would just love to get past 140 😁

you can if you're dead set on it, it's just hard to recommend when it's so easy to respec to lightning spear even with bad gear and just delete everything on the screen

Yeah just going to use my rogue to run hordes, so do the massive amounts of cooldown on this build help keep flame shield up for survival?

i think you should be okay with any resource roll, unleashed+fiery surge+mana roll on boots+conj mastery should be enough, although restore mana is the best

You can play any build you want but I would say this is not a casual friendly build, I would suggest lightning spear for that.

13 frame is pretty nice but it's not necessary for pushing. you'll be down about 7% fewer attacks(less damage, less teleports) but in the grand scheme it's not a big deal unless you are really pushing the timer to the limit. As goes for any gear levels with this build it's always important to try to find the balance of as few teleports as possible but also recognizing when teleporting more will produce more damage by positioning the mobs better or pulling in more mobs for more fireball enchant procs. Without GA Starless you'll be locked to 13 frame, my friend Puz did some frame testing and found the 14 frame cap to be 164.3, i'd try to aim for that.

@@voidseerxd i re mastered it and noticed a huge difference, I reached 157 with LS, I hoped into 150 to give it a test run as I have put aside playing with the shatter sorc, cause i have been switching back and fourth on one sorc two gear setups(complete nightmare lmao) but in the 150 test i was vaporizing everything, and could evade at will. I playedd firebolt last season, I actually did my 150 with it, so I'm pretty familiar with the style and pool up of mobs, but your video gave me a great idea with my bindings that has essentially already felt GAME changing, binding evade to right right click... I never even thought about it, and it's just a godsend. i am now in 13frame bracket after hitting the master on that pyro once, I will keep trying for the ring, so I can switch back to the int, but evade right click has never made me feel so comfortable with my other binds. funny how such a small change can literally make a build go from a clunkfest feeling to right at home!

also to add my current AS right now is 168.8

@@voidseerxd Just wanted to let you know, I finally got the ring! switched the MW back to int for the 22 extra points of minmax, class feels AMAZING. Have to play perfection to not die, but that's partially what I like too, it's actually a challenege.

@@constantinople2837 congrats, yeah i don't really get why the build gets so much hate, i think it's really fun. it's annoying dealing with raiment TP bug but aside from that it feels like there's a lot more skill expression than just holding down a button and mashing my cooldowns like a lot of other build options

malice adds are just way more consistent to get a good shatter on, to get the same value shatters on spiritcaller he has to spend a lot of the fight near the entrance where the adds spawn because the mobs can desync if he's too far away. That and he moves around a lot more and there are more mechanics you have to dodge. Spiritcaller probably has the most potential but is so RNG it will almost never happen.