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@abrahambardalez4703 4 сағат бұрын
I have rebirth. If money was not an obstacle would you recommend buying black rose wars sator box to play with rebirth?
@abrahambardalez4703 6 сағат бұрын
Oh and the mini that you have at the top before you click on the video. Is that in the base game?
@TheKingofAverage 5 сағат бұрын
No the big guy is an expansion, but was free during the campaign :)
@abrahambardalez4703 5 сағат бұрын
Would it be in the sator box?
@abrahambardalez4703 6 сағат бұрын
Would you recommend getting the 3d card holders for all those? I’ve seen it on Etsy where you can have all those seperate.
@TheKingofAverage 5 сағат бұрын
I imagine it'd help a lot!
@robando2922 12 сағат бұрын
Release date?
@TheKingofAverage 5 сағат бұрын
No clue for retail :(
@wilky3236 Күн бұрын
What do you think how expensive will this game be... because... theire is no plastic inside..
@TheKingofAverage 16 сағат бұрын
Hard to say but obviously cheaper than alternatives. The STL codes seem to be included and those do hold value, and the STLs (all presupported) and art are all super high quality so they obviously invested in quality stuff which is nice, but shipping along should save most like $40 lol.
@michaelburggraf 7 сағат бұрын
@@TheKingofAverageLooks like they are asking $70 per box. Do you feel it is worth that?
@horus7732 Күн бұрын
This was a great overview of the game mechanism and features but I wouldn’t call it a review. I never got the impression you actually played the game, you didn’t share any anecdote from a playthrough. It feels like a personnalized feedback after reading the rulebook and looking at the board and components. Am I right?
@TheKingofAverage Күн бұрын
Hmmm, I am sorry it felt that way to you. I was a bit more rushed than summer other reviews I've done when it comes to organizing my thoughts for a review, but it still filtered the normal process. Incidentally I worried it was the opposite and it came across too much on how I felt about it and too little in harder mechanics.
@Slyfox1775 2 күн бұрын
Man you gave praise to Wolfenstein ! Same Company . That game was absolute dog 💩! One of the worst dungeon games I’ve played !
@TheKingofAverage 2 күн бұрын
@@Slyfox1775 I am glad to hear you are not blindly following reviewers! I liked it even with some quirks, it was pretty different from the norm which I appreciated. I will clarify that I only said that it was the start of them making better games, not that it was some top 10 list thing :) before that was what? Chronicle X? :D A big upgrade from that at least!
@thepissoff10 2 күн бұрын
Totally off topic but I see Maladum. Did you pick up the Fantasy Dungeon box? Have you played thru the campaign? Totally dig that game, played it WAY too much already.
@BaltazarKadryl 2 күн бұрын
It's a nice game, but how big of a table do you need to play it?
@TheKingofAverage 2 күн бұрын
@@BaltazarKadryl definitely no smaller than the table here. Ideally larger. This is a Megan Medium from GeekNSon
@qtherage7536 2 күн бұрын
How did you find the rulebook? I ask because archon has a track record of having some of the worst rulebooks. As someone who has heroes 3 while I like the game I can confirm it’s the worst rulebook I’ve come across in 20+ years, it was so bad the fans of the game had to make a separate rulebook that the devs now point people to. Is this rulebook a step in a more positive direction?
@TheKingofAverage 2 күн бұрын
Prototypes are hard with this. It definitely was far from the best early rulebook I've used, but it's also literally a word document. At least when I learned. I believe a rulebook is linked in the campaign page though so you can check if there's been updates.
@IrietuneCaptive 2 күн бұрын
Indeed, the current rulebook is available for download on the campaign page. I also backed HoMM3 and must say the rulebook here, despite not being final, is already way better.
@qtherage7536 2 күн бұрын
@@IrietuneCaptive good to know. I like heroes but my god that rulebook! How did it make it to print?
@bmrigs 2 күн бұрын
Cant be anymore cluttering than Twilight Imperium.
@TheKingofAverage 2 күн бұрын
Haha yeah kind of just part of the genre mostly :)
@somerandomperson8282 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the views this looks like an interesting game. What is your personal view on how it compares to the other 4x heavy hitters?
@TheKingofAverage 2 күн бұрын
I'm a sucker for the mechanics here personally. Drafting, dice placement, macro upgrades each section. Was fun! Stuff like Fractile have bigger swings and a story, so it's not as diff form typical 4x as that one, but definitely has a combo of mechanics I enjoyed
@bryanyoung9966 3 күн бұрын
Always loved this game growing up so a board game version has me intrigued. I don’t back nearly as much as I used too (see: mythic, Stellaris, Okko chronicles for why 😂) but seriously tempted with this. I bet this will arrive before Stellaris does 😆
@TheKingofAverage 16 сағат бұрын
At least Archon is known for delivering early if not on time :) But overall backing yeah the wild west days are over :D Have you played the new one?
@arakuss1 3 күн бұрын
1. Not really liking the art work on this or the look. 2. Never a fan with mixing dice and miniatures and tokens as resources and gaming pieces. 3. 4x games really I would wait for actual play through game reviews so its hard to risk backing If this makes retail I think I would give it a better look. Really there just something off from the way it looks. It might play well and be great but it just has a messy and clutter look to it. Game length is never an issue with me when it comes to a 4x epic space game though I do like multiple ways a game could end.
@TheKingofAverage 3 күн бұрын
It is going retail so that's viable. I believe there's at least one playthrough video out now. Might be a good fit for you even if just for further information
@portwills 3 күн бұрын
Honestly I would have preferred simple tokens with really cool artworks on them over all these miniatures. It makes the box (boxes with expansions) so much bigger than required and I don't think they really improve the readability of the game. Not to mention that they could have skimmed off a hundred dollar or so off the price. I really wish they would offer a pledge without the miniatures.
@OPMDK 3 күн бұрын
@@portwills agreed; I wonder what the data on standee vs miniature versions indicates over the past couples years
@TheKingofAverage 3 күн бұрын
I actually kind of disagree here. For any genre that involves knowing where and what is in a map location among many groups (often players) I find it much easier to see with miniatures. Standees are flat to half of players and so not visible and tokens blend in too much with the map/other tokens. There are a lot of games that have unneeded minis, but I feel this would play worse not better without them.
@portwills 3 күн бұрын
@ hey I see your point and that's perfectly valid, but colored tokens with cool artworks as an optional pledge is something I would have gone for. I carry my games a lot in airplanes and usually the smaller the footprint the better. I can't think of any game where miniatures were a plus for me, so I'm always glad when they offer standees (or tokens in this case) as an option.
@portwills 3 күн бұрын
@@OPMDK It would have made shipping and the pledges cheaper too, or otherwise I don't see why it wouldn't have.
@TheKingofAverage 3 күн бұрын
Fair enough, we're all different :) for me even when Descent 2E had the token bad guys I'd always lose track of them on the map so I'm not very good with that. It would indeed reduce size and shipping for sure!
@crimsonsun2000 3 күн бұрын
The latest video game is pretty light for the genre, which seems like this is going to transfer well for a boardgame. Its absolutely something I'm leaning towards.
@TheKingofAverage 3 күн бұрын
Oh so the older one was a bit chunkier? I used to play Galactic Civilization back in the day, more like that?
@crimsonsun2000 3 күн бұрын
@@TheKingofAverage yes, exactly. I've not looked at the latest Gal Civ, but I've played the previous ones. It did have tactical combat something never included in Gal Civ, but the modern MoO is very light as 4x video games go. Its really not much more in depth than the board game appears to be. You'd do the largest size map in 10-15 hours, where as stuff like Stellaris. Gal Civ, or Polaris sector you can spend 200 hours on a map and not be close to a final victory condition with the larger sizes and are vastly more complex in terms of layers of mechanics, resource management and thinking. Which isn't to say that's a bad thing, its not a game I'd consider top of the genre but its very easy to play and come back to because its so simple. Those others I have to spend 20 hours relearning every time I come back to them, they are great but they ask so much more from you.
@TheKingofAverage 3 күн бұрын
@crimsonsun2000 haha yeah good point! I recall just making a custom race with all the various perks and such in gal civ took hours :D as I age I find myself drawn to smoother experiences that still somewhat scratch the itch so this actually makes me even more interested in it!
@philipbowles5397 3 күн бұрын
@@TheKingofAverage The newer one is actually a very faithful adaptation of MOO II (with the exception of the combat system), which is something of a mixed blessing - MOO II was a great game but one whose complexity probably grew in the telling, and what's more when you're remaking a game from 1996 in 2016 it's fair to assume that players' expectations are a bit higher thanks to all the extra stuff computers can handle - it was releasing into a game universe where Distant Worlds existed, but was closer to Sins of a Solar Empire - which is an RTS in 4x clothing, with the simplifications to managing resources that implies. MOO games set the foundation for the planet types and exploration systems in all subsequent space 4xes, and the customisation of ships allowed by their tech system was probably unparalleled (and sadly lacking in the 2016 game). Oddly, the older game seemed to handle larger combats and I think did so better. But as a resource management game MOO II was paper thin - indeed probably a step back from the slider system of its predecessor, if more user-friendly - and Conquer the Stars is almost an exact clone in that regard. It also doesn't have character levelling that I recall.
@crimsonsun2000 3 күн бұрын
@@TheKingofAverage I think both have a place. I love complexity and granular detail both in video games and board games. But I'm also practical. I backed Stellaris if it turns up its going to be a game that like EU will eat an entire long weekend to play a full 8 eras. That's a experience much like TI is an all day affair. Those games are truly special and occupy a very special place in my heart, but they require organising and scheduling making it so its a very rare and special occurrence, while something that plays in an afternoon, well I can arrange that any Saturday, meaning it will see 10 times the plays that a longer experience will. I might love the longer game more, but I won't play it any where near as often and I'll enjoy the shorter game so there's absolutely room for both. The same is true for video gaming but as its a solo experience its a little easier to adjust to the intense games especially when they are new, but I could load up MoO now and play half a map with no difficulty. So ease of access in both media forms is very important to us all. This is a pretty easy back for me, I think the price is low for whats on offer and I adore these types of games so its an easy sell. The one I'm watching you might well get sent is Hearts of Iron? I won't back that prior to the pledge manager anyway, because I've never had a SFG production I was like this is a must have game, but its a IP I love in a genre I've not got well represented in my collection, so I'm super interested in that.
@GamingTremor 3 күн бұрын
This looks really good!
@TheKingofAverage 3 күн бұрын
Yeah it's very well done even at this prototype stage
@OPMDK 3 күн бұрын
Two questions: 1. Is this going to retail? 2. What’s the benefit beyond maybe getting it first, to crowd funding it? 🙏
@TheKingofAverage 3 күн бұрын
It'll be at retail I imagine. Under the why back now it mentions bonus content, getting it earlier, and getting it cheaper.
@TomeOfLies 3 күн бұрын
This is a good question if we don't get all of the expansions and want to pick them up later on.
@portwills 3 күн бұрын
It's going to retail, but the stretch goals are exclusive to crowdfunding. The price, though, will be similar in retail after all, because local shipping will be cheaper, although theoretically the price of the game and its expansions will be higher then (but that's not always the case, sometimes it's just about the same and even cheaper at times). So I would say the only advantage of crowdfunding is the stretch goals (which actually will also be available on the publisher's website in Poland at a later date and during gaming conventions).
@OPMDK 3 күн бұрын
@@portwills so for me in Canada and at the abysmal USD to CAD exchange rate, the $$ shipping usually balances with all the stretch goals but I just looked at the 9/12 stretch goals and personally I don’t see US$40-60 worth of stretch goals. Also the expansions seem to add SO much new gameplay that without them the game almost seems like it’s incomplete. I am trying to be more conservative about my crowd funding as I’ve backed over 100 games over the years now and the value just keeps going down and, other than standee versions, costs just keep going up; so despite being a MOOII player in my youth I just don’t know about this one.
@PRC533 3 күн бұрын
@@OPMDK It's the same for me in Alaska, I usually wait for things to hit retail because shipping costs are insane up here. A game like this would probably cost at least $50 if not more to ship to me.
@OPMDK 3 күн бұрын
38 min count down to launch!
@TheKingofAverage 3 күн бұрын
Launched now!
@nobbynobbs8182 3 күн бұрын
I do love the MoO PC games (except for MoO3), and the board game of 2016 (technically a card game) was pretty good despite the poor production quality. Main question for me is if there's need to own a space 4x game when I already have Eclipse (which always felt like a board game version of MoO without the IP) and Twilight Imperium. (I write this before seeing the review, I need to look into this more)
@TheKingofAverage 3 күн бұрын
They also have a FAQ directly comparing to Eclipse and TI that might be of interest to you!
@somerandomperson8282 3 күн бұрын
@@TheKingofAverage where? I can't find it with a google or CTRL-F on the crowdfunding page.
@booksbricksandboards783 4 күн бұрын
I recently picked up the DCeased Gotham City Outbreak box, and I really liked the standees as they aren’t needing painted. I also prefer the smaller boards and slightly smaller maps. I liked it so much, I just ordered the Heroes Resistance box for Marvel even though I own the rest of the line. I will get the smaller version to the table far more often! Good review.
@TheKingofAverage 3 күн бұрын
Yeah I backed the KS and still might buy the smaller retail box. Zombicide thrives on quick to the table status I feel.
@booksbricksandboards783 3 күн бұрын
@ I didn’t really understand why I didn’t play it more… sense I like you backed the full DCeased game, I wanted to figure out why… started realizing it was setup and play time restricted it to a place where it fought for time with my crunchiest games. By getting a quicker, trimmer, option, I find it much more likely to hit the table!
@shaike82 5 күн бұрын
January 2025 - Is there anyone who still thinks this was a rip off? I doubt it 😉
@TheKingofAverage 3 күн бұрын
Mine just arrived!
@garypostell5268 7 күн бұрын
I’m in Alabama it’s hard to get so I use Army paint cause it’s easer to get in my area, and Amazon!
@TheKingofAverage 7 күн бұрын
Army Painter has become much better too in recent years!
@TheKid_88 7 күн бұрын
This is ridiculous 😂😂😂
@stillbuyvhs 9 күн бұрын
Back again! This time, the video game industry. The video game industry's always been big business. Atari was owned by Warner Communications; they built Atari into a half-billion dollar company before the market collapsed in '83-84. Coleco & Tandy were leather craft companies; they got into video games & computers because the industries were growing, & because it seemed like a good investment. Nintendo was a card company in the early 20th century, but by the 60's they were trying basically anything to make money. Toys worked best, so the focused on that. When video games became popular, they moved into that industry because it was the natural extension of what they already did. Parker Brothers, Mattel, & Milton Bradley also got into video games, for the same reason. Mattel & Milton Bradley actually made their own game systems, for awhile. Sega distributed slot machines & vending machines. Bally made pinball machines. Both got into video games because video games seemed to be the natural extension of their current industries. Sony, Phillips, & Microsoft were electronics firms; they got into the video game industry because, again, it was a natural extension of things they already did.
@stillbuyvhs 9 күн бұрын
Back! With a more serious comment: Board Gaming has always been about big business. Most of the major game manufacturers were printing companies looking for something to sell. Some were toy companies; a few other were major manufacturers of other goods. Milton Bradley & the McLoughlin Brothers were a lithographers; Western Publishing printed comics & books. Transogram was an iron-on transfer company that expanded into toy manufacturing. 3M made (and makes) a little bit of everything. Selchow & Righter were wholesalers or distributors, who focused on games. Parker Brothers started as a game company, but the first three or four games they made were card games about business; George S. Parker was a business man. Avalon Hill started as a game company, but they went bankrupt in the 60's, & had to get investors to bail them out. Moreover, major conglomerates have been involved in board games for over 50 years; Parker Brothers was bought by General Mills in the 60's. Milton Bradley maintained their independence till the '80's, but they also expanded into other industries, like educational supplies & electronics, & they bought other companies, like Playschool/Halsam. I'm not sure where I'm going with this. I suppose I want to say that you need business sense to survive, to continue to make & sell games. It's not wrong, as long as you give people a fair deal. On rare occasions, the skills needed to design good games & the skills needed to market said games may be given to the same person, but usually that's not the case, so a game company needs both passionate business men & passionate game designers to thrive.
@AdamUmak 10 күн бұрын
I saw a prototype of this game from video/vlogger footage from Essen this past year. This game grabbed me in the same way Eternal Champions - Judgment did. High production quality from a company that I am just not familiar with. What a debut. Very glad to know that it caught your eye, too, and that it looks very promising! Looks very, very interesting. Between this and Trench Crusade, I'm thinking there is a lot of cool stuff coming to gaming tables in 2025!
@TheKingofAverage 10 күн бұрын
Ooooh I need to look more into trench crusade!
@thebrothersslim6056 9 күн бұрын
Ahaha you really do!@@TheKingofAverage
@deancoun6460 10 күн бұрын
:) Hello ! Thank you for this video ! Congrats ! 😊 !
@tanyagavinsdottir5858 10 күн бұрын
There is also Wonderment Games, Quodd Heroes 2nd Edition that may also not deliver 😔
@JFrosty 11 күн бұрын
Hey 👋🏼 Just checking if the Oathsworn email was from you? Not sure if you’ve seen my response yet.
@TheKingofAverage 11 күн бұрын
Hello, Yes! Sorry it took so long :)
@JFrosty 11 күн бұрын
@@TheKingofAverage - Awesome, thanks for confirming 😄
@JoseMedia2421 11 күн бұрын
Tracy Hickman from Dragonlance?!
@TheKingofAverage 11 күн бұрын
@@JoseMedia2421 the one and only!
@stillbuyvhs 11 күн бұрын
I think "Big Business" was taken off the market after Transogram went bankrupt. ;-) (Forgive the pun; I'll try to write a more serious comment after watching the video.)
@well4576 11 күн бұрын
I am really impressed with the quality of this prototype. I expect nothing less for the final product, I am looking forward to it.
@TheKingofAverage 11 күн бұрын
@@well4576 yeah it's been fantastic to see a company put so much care into what they are making
@MattLoureiro 11 күн бұрын
Your pronunciation of the Spellbound Bahig'udjin was flawless 🤌
@TheKingofAverage 11 күн бұрын
Haha great! :D
@well4576 11 күн бұрын
Bora Barrigudinho
@FeliPeltier 12 күн бұрын
I’ve moved into war gaming, never thought I would. Not a big Warhammer fan though.
@TheKingofAverage 12 күн бұрын
Welcome! What do you play? I do Warhammer, infinity, and freebooters but need more of the latter two. Also enjoy skirmish games like the new Malediction too!
@andreikoenig5718 12 күн бұрын
So they are trying to nab One Page Rules playerbase?
@TheKingofAverage 12 күн бұрын
One page rules is mostly Warhammer but fed up to with GW I thought?
@andreikoenig5718 12 күн бұрын
Yep that's it. Admittedly i don't know how this game plays, but the general concept of the game that you can print minis for
@TheKingofAverage 11 күн бұрын
That's true! It's definitely not the first to offer that. There's been a few KS games like that as well, though very small indie edforts
@Toqtamish129 19 сағат бұрын
Very different games.
@sablestar1956 12 күн бұрын
I disagree. I think it’s the rise of epic gaming like Aeon Trespass Odyssey. Due to the abysmal politics that’s happening real time around the world will result in a bigger appetite for escapism. We will see more “unique” epic boardgames. People will think outside the box because normal isn’t enough anymore. Think big or go home zeitgeist. Take risks. That’s my prediction on gaming culture.
@johncurry7246 12 күн бұрын
This looks really good. I think I'd prefer the info on the standees to be printed on the sides or on the top edge instead of along the bottom, just for even easier reading.
@TheKingofAverage 12 күн бұрын
Yeah that's the nice part about standees. I think however that it'll be like almost skirmish games where after the first few checks you remember for the game
@johncurry7246 12 күн бұрын
@@TheKingofAverage that's a really good point
@majicmonkey1984 12 күн бұрын
Could have edited out the mistake, but kept it in and owned it - LOVE IT!
@TheKingofAverage 12 күн бұрын
Haha glad you did! 😊
@poplikeapop 12 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to play this! 🔥
@TheKingofAverage 12 күн бұрын
Same! :D
@Selfreplyingbot 12 күн бұрын
Grat Job. And I love the game.
@sebastianmamut4257 13 күн бұрын
No. It was Not worth it to wait. Good Material but the Game them self ist too less from the Rest.
@Sheltie01 13 күн бұрын
I'll keep backing things like Tiny Epic and Nexus from D-verse. Although I'll keep playing my boardgames that I've owned since the 1980's alongside more modern stuff.
@christopheockham5961 14 күн бұрын
Because of mythic now i pledge nothing, and i hope they never work in game industry ever 🎉
@christopheockham5961 14 күн бұрын
Qu'ils crevrent tous 🎉
@vwgearhead65 14 күн бұрын
It's a problem when the companys dont respond, or update the progress. They will lose there backers. I will never buy from Knight Games. They not very good updating there backers
@nathanlal7326 15 күн бұрын
WoTC is the reason why we will never get a great game like BG3 again, BG3 is what got me into DnD and seeing all of this is just absolutely infuriating