It is true that you have to put the " volume" almost down completely to get a clean sound. I also think it is suppose to represent only the vibrato channel wich has a slightly different sound then the pure channel. This has it's consequences. But I'm not sure if it is that much of a problem for dirt pedals compared to other ampsims. Every ampsim has it's downsides. This one really has a good sound. But thank you for opening this interesting discussion. A comparison with iridium and Acs1 would be more interesting then with the helix for me. As a second video ?

Is that a mouth diaper? Sheep

Nice playing and tone all around, but man, play the same freakin' thing, and play it in the same exact style. It's a comparison video, not a stylistic breadth showcase. It seems like the Gibson is your preferred player- you put a lot more energy into it, and you hammer the bass way more. Is it the guitar, or the player? Who knows.

hmmmmmm I don't think this is true.

Enjoyed the comparison, but a more accurate one would be a Historic 335 vs. I-35 LC V.

I wish I have the backing track of this to have some fun, great job with the tabs Yuri!!!!

Well that's too bad. Those UA pedals are not cheap and should be flawless with lots of headroom. But I think it also depends on the pedals you run before it and how you got those dialed in.

I really cannot discern the difference with whatever you are using to record this. I just hear the room too much. I think it would be better to put an actual mic in front of the speaker. As to which guitar I prefer, I don't know...

Why not just run the pedal into an already broken up amp? That's the way 90% of ppl run their overdrive anyway- they set the amp until it's starting to breakup- and then hit it with an overdrive. Then it's not a clean signal that is blending into your overdrive tone- it's a dirty signal that's being blended in- sounds better to me.

Not really a fair comparison. Unless you've spent $500 on a decent audio interface to plug into the iPad you're comparing apples and pears and the results are exactly what anyone would expect. Nice playing though!

A little tough to hear what you say over the guitar playing.

The Gibby sounds instantly like it is semi-acoustic, with a gentler bounce to the bass-end and subtle mid-upper range. The Collings sounds stiffer, louder and more electrified in large part from those dominant mids. Like it is descended from different DNA than a 335; I've played heritage or japanese ARs and SAs that were a lot closer to the Gibby. I'm sure the Collings is more consistent and is preferable to some for various reasons. I've played some sub-optimal GIbsons, too - but when it's built right, a proper ES Gibson is verrry tough to equal.

Uh… is that really the carved I35? That’s really not a very good comparison. The I35 LC is the competitor to the ES-335.

I think UA were so eager to get the real driven tone from the DR that they forget the reason why so many use this amp. I've got the same problem. I can play anything from jazz, pop, rock to metal with a real DR using the right pedals, but this pedal makes it really difficult.

My 68 custom deluxe reverb goes into breakup at a volume of about 3 and a half. I haven't had this issue with the dream 65. It takes my distortions really well. Strange!

The Dream 65 acts and feels EXACTLY like the real Deluxe 65 amp. You are comparing it with a Kemper capture of a very clean amp that doesn’t ever get any dirtier because when the amp was captured it wasn’t on the edge of breakup. This is complete user error… it’s just like the real world scenario complaining that the Deluxe Reverb gets dirty around 3 to 4 and the Twin Reverb stays clean forever and takes your head off. If you want a clean amp buy a Twin Reverb if you want an amp that starts breaking up at 3 to 4 then gets dirtier but no louder buy a Deluxe. Your problem is not the pedal but your lack of understanding of how gain works. The worst part is all the people that were misinformed by this or even worse the ones that agreed with you.

Very cool man. Nice playing !!!!!

just put more volume on the BB. I use the dream on more or less the same amount of gain and have absolutely zero problem of overdrives not being loud enough.

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this is great , thanks for tabbing this out !!

very awesome playing , great technique !

very cool

very awesome , many thanks for tabbing this out !!!

Howe's technical ability is top drawer, but man is that stuff boring to listen to

The BB Preamp has a REALLY high output. It can make any amp-pedal buckle. Your were also hitting it with a humbucker to exaggerate the problem even more. Poor example. Also, check your power. If your board is starving with power, the headroom goes way down. Looks like you're using a Zuma so you should be fine, but its worth mentioning.

Orange clean channels are so underrated. They’re so nice.

blazing !

Thanks for sharing. Its fascinating to hear the two. I have never played either instrument except just briefly and not side by side. My understanding is that there a big difference in the construction of those instruments. The Gibson is constructed from laminated wood. The I 35 is a hollowed out solid mahogany body with a solid maple top. So you would expect the difference in sound (i am not suggesting the quality of sound in one is better) that comes through in the video. I think the video captures the differences. Another interesting comparison would be to compare the Collings I 35 LCs (the laminated version of the I 35) to the two in the video. To me, they sound very different than either of those instruments. For a real treat, check out the I 35 LC model equipped with Throbak's SLE 101 plus pickups. They sometimes come from the factory that way. I am always impressed by the sounds I get from mine. Regardless which one you favor, it goes without saying find a used one! Much better up front cost and my experience is when I buy it used they hold their value quite well.

Через какой усилитель или процессор звучит? Звук отличный!

Didn't have this problem. If you dial volume below the edge of breakup it gives out plenty of headroom just like a DR played in 3. Works well with pedals as well.

Played beautifully..... though not music to my ears just mind blowing over a backing track

Такая огромная безполезная работа проделанна, мой друг слушайте больше музыки, вы тут не слышите очень много пентатоники? , и нот которые идут друг за другом, в принципе неудачное произведение скучное не дающее ни какой радости.

Very good Yuri !! You rock !

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I agree with you : the headroom of this box is not the same as the real amp and it's something you have to deal with when you put pedals in front of it

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You are comparing two profilers - UA and Kemper -, which does not say anything about the UA compared to the amp they profiled. I have both UA and Fender Reverb Deluxe and there is a difference between them, but the UA is acceptable for use with a Gibson Les Paul. With a Fender strat, the real amp is better, cause the real tubes sound better and warmer.

Strange. I don't have this problem at all.

Tube amps are better. Like way way way better. I'd rather pack around my amp than sound like poo.

Totally agree….I am trying to find out a solution cause it’s very a nice sounding pedals but it’s unuseful as subtitute of an amp after a pedalboard. I opened a ticket with no success…

Thi accurate. I brought mine back fornthat very reason. Had great tones though. I have a fender tone master pro now. No such problems. But expensive.

Tnx

Agree.

Has anyone else had this issue? I have not found any similar video with this error.

Best clean pedal platform amp in a box is the Walrus Audio ACS-1, IMHO.

Have you updated the firmware?

…I'm having difficulty figuring out what exactly the issue is here. Initially it sounded like you were saying that the 65's input didn't have enough headroom and was being pushed into overdrive too easily. Then it sounded like you were saying that you couldn't hear whatever gain pedal you ran into the front of the 65 (in this case a BB Preamp) because the clean signal from the 65 was layering over it. These are two very different things, but with that said I'd be willing to wager that it's pilot error and not the 65 itself. It sounds like there's a setting somewhere that needs to be adjusted. If it really is a feature and not a bug, you could put a compressor or EQ before it to limit the input signal. If it actually is just how the circuit is designed, it's not very well thought out.

User error brother…

I had the Dream and Ruby and both had less headroom than the Iridium. They didn't sound good with OD/boost pedals in front even with gain at the lowest setting.

Understand the user settings you won’t face this issue