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@DavidMaurer-lk1br Күн бұрын
I have the Apollo and the Jelly Bean, and I go back and forth trying to decide which is my favorite. Equal but different. I agree 100% with your description and assessment of their play qualities. Keep up the good work.
@christianeprice 2 күн бұрын
Rafa I met you last night at PPA Dallas and forgot to ask…. What are you maining at moment and why?
@groot3371 5 күн бұрын
I enjoyed the video. I would like you to review the Thrive Blackout.
@kimleith1378 9 күн бұрын
Would like to know what you think of GENTLE BOOMS Pilot Pro. Aluminum core with aluminum face sheet topped with T700 3K Carbon. I really like how it helped my soft game.
@CraigHurda 12 күн бұрын
The two paddles in my bag are the Apollo & Jelly Bean, and for the same reasons you give......gawd I want to frankenstein these two paddles together so bad......I keep rotating between them; trading spin/feel for power & then back again all the time.
@mitch1766 12 күн бұрын
Absolutely do not like the design of the face. I guess I’m old school and prefer the basic black or at least dark paddle face with minimal graphics.
@zaf7819 12 күн бұрын
Rapha, I would be interested in your analysis and opinion regarding the new 11-page USAP coefficient of restitution testing document from your engineering perspective. The way they are stabilizing the paddle head when shooting the cannonballs at the paddle has everything to do with what they are measuring, as it may differ from the contact/dwell time when a paddle is swung through contact. Additionally, how is their break-in and destruction testing measured?
@TotshotAirsoft 12 күн бұрын
So the x5 has 6 layers on each side or 3 layers on each side? And what does a typical gen 2 paddle have? 3 on each side right?
@drmario5942 13 күн бұрын
“Seasoned..”???
@hartfordwolfpack8678 13 күн бұрын
Paprika and turmeric actually
@pickleballtechdude 12 күн бұрын
🧂🧂🧂
@gottahavemytech6346 13 күн бұрын
The Kiwilabs "The Circuit"
@peteherrera1502 13 күн бұрын
I am tired of so much hate for the Gearbox Pro Power pickleball paddle.
@TurningUs 13 күн бұрын
Please do a review on the Pickleball Apes, Pulse series. It would be great to hear your opinion. Thank you.
@ljcs8888 15 күн бұрын
Quartz
@munchymunch8698 20 күн бұрын
What are your views on the J2ti
@Loren-ee8ri 21 күн бұрын
I currently play with the 6.0 Ruby. Any idea how this compares anybody?
@TopJoo7 23 күн бұрын
This is the best J2K review on KZbin. Please do the J2K Pro and J7K Pro next.
@dennispena4178 26 күн бұрын
This is where the the term "follow the science" is actually meaningful. I am always blown away at how PHYSICS rules the universe. Great job, PT Dude. Nice balance, like the Gearbox engineers. You didn't go overboard, but you helped me understand why this paddle technology is so different. My one question is, "why don't the governing bodies/regulators/de-listing powers-that-be just use exit velocity to determine which paddles are acceptable? Very simple and straight forward for people to understand because what players experience is the rapid rate at which the ball closes in on them.
@timkadom1722 27 күн бұрын
What does it mean to say “the only two best options”? Is that the same as saying “Two best options” or even just “best options”?
@jimnguyen7312 27 күн бұрын
I fully support the orginal decision by USAP to delist the Gen 3 since it was not the one that was appproved last year. However, the Mod TA which was approved last year is not much different than the Gen 3. From what I have reseached, the MOD TA and the Gen 3 are the same internally, except the Gen3 has a slightly grittier surface. I hope USAP will reconsider approving the Gen 3, but it maybe too late since there's a lawsuit pending.
@richardgilbert9281 27 күн бұрын
You should take a look at the Hisk Rav Pro with T 700 carbon fibre for $69.99, come with cover, carbon eraser, replacement grip and wrist bands, great value.
@DianSusiana98 28 күн бұрын
Thank you, Rafa. I recommended it to my cousin who has a tennis background.
@LouisBrown19 28 күн бұрын
Hi Rafa, will its sweet spot be small? The surface of the paddle looks very short.
@ArianaWilson- 28 күн бұрын
Good video. The shape is cute, but the grip is probably too big for me.
@dominionn09 28 күн бұрын
Buying a limited edition paddle is kind of lame because if you fall in love with it you cannot get a replacement
@pickleballtechdude 28 күн бұрын
Tough decision to make for sure :/
@daniilmotsenyat 28 күн бұрын
To be fair, gen1s usually last much much longer ❤
@ChorusPickleball 27 күн бұрын
If people like it we will keep making it!
@PuddysDoghouse 28 күн бұрын
👍
@MattyRut2922 28 күн бұрын
I think she’s an amazing looking paddle! The Olson twins have no taste and neither do you! Other than that, great review!
@pickleballtechdude 28 күн бұрын
To each their own! 😂
@MattyRut2922 28 күн бұрын
@@pickleballtechdude I hope you post this video a third time, so I can tell you again how it’s a great looking paddle.
@pickleballtechdude 28 күн бұрын
Lmaooo caught that huh?
@waynekurtz660 28 күн бұрын
Interesting paddle, thank you for your review
@tiasboi3able 28 күн бұрын
A company applied for the rights to a design, got the rights, and are now winning cases that prove other companies are infringing on these copyrights. That's the point of a copyright. You may not like the rules, but they are there to protect the intellect and designs awarded to companies. Imagine it's the other way around and a small company comes up with a great design. If they copyright that design, should joola and selkirk be able to use the design also and run them out of business?
@PTL4179 29 күн бұрын
I don’t understand this patent as the original design and manufacture are from China. Almost all paddle companies selected their paddles from catalogs so they should not be liable on infringement, right?
@kimleith1378 Ай бұрын
Great job with this. F#$k ONIX.
@MetalEsquire Ай бұрын
i'm an attorney but don't practice in patents & have no idea how to challenge a patent. why pckl would basically give up is prob cost/benefit. with a large parent co. Onyx can leverage resources. Case in point- Onyx's lawsuit is rather bare bones but mentions the companies communicated about the issue prior, the issue in the suit being (probably) pkl's continued sales of only their remaining stock. How much stock did pckl actually have? But, also how did Onyx know about pckl? Onyx alleges "Escalade Sports conducted an investigation of third-party uses of pickleball paddles manufactured using the method patented under the ‘169 Patent" and “that PCKL was selling pickleball paddles which APPEARED to infringe the ‘169 Patent.” Emphasis added on ‘appeared.’ There are prob a limited number of mnf/suppliers so if you can find who could make PB paddle with paddel tech- ie, pckl’s supplier, you might know who else to target. Was Onyx tipped off or did they invest a significant amount of resources just to 'investigate' supplies/other paddles and this is their return on that investment? Patent attorneys, in particular, are among the highest priced attorneys due to the high complexity of the issues in terms of technological and legal. Even the first stage of litigation- motion practice (a trial on paper based on undisputable facts) would probably cost at least tens of thousands of dollars. However, I feel that the lawsuit was more for appearance (ie return on their 'investigation' investment) and not to create legal precedence bc a settlement can't be used as a 'ruling' in another case.
@gumbyspergist9541 Ай бұрын
Do you know how six zero makes their paddles? Iirc the owner talked about creating the foam edge but deciding not to file a patent cause it would be expensive to prove and defend it. Wouldn’t that be Rich if they actually came up with it first?
@65atBestPB 27 күн бұрын
I think that would be referred to as “prior art”, and another company couldn’t get a patent on it even if 6.0 chose not to patent. Patents are for new, novel creations. Perhaps Rafa could weigh in.
@thinkboro8378 Ай бұрын
Onix....the Walmart brand?
@Syndrome88 Ай бұрын
I prefer to see the list of companies that are served papers than listening to this technical stuff.
@49pickles Ай бұрын
I saw online that a company called Escalade Sports owns Onix. Looks like they own a lot of smaller sporting goods companies as well. If that’s the case, I can see them suing other companies as a revenue stream. With that said, If Onix truly invented and patented something that every other paddle company uses I don’t see any reason asking for a fee to use their invention for profit is wrong. If they saw someone else’s invention and patented it they would be wrong. Other companies getting into the paddle game now know how important it is to either innovate something that will insulate them from lawsuits, or create something they can license to others.
@mr.mr.3301 Ай бұрын
So I’ll never ever buy anything Onix now.
@afterthesmash 29 күн бұрын
Good strategy. Now that I've decided to boycott Microsoft, Apple, and Google how can I send a telegram, or am I now restricted to smoke signals?
@BrownKoat4ever Ай бұрын
With your ace review and the next level of paddles you should include the Kiwi Labs Circuit. Great way of using foam that is not power directed.
@killahboutdooradventures Ай бұрын
Its not shady to defend your intellectual property. They might be irrelevant, and maybe its because everyone stole their patent. I think its a smart move on their part on who and how they go about C&D orders
@afterthesmash 29 күн бұрын
The patent system is notorious for awarding patents that should never have been exclusive property in the first place. The patent system is 50% racket. When they enable IP that shouldn't exist, it only ever translates into higher prices for consumers. IP is fundamentally a form of monopoly, which permits monopoly rent extraction. If it legitimately incentivizes innovation that wouldn't have happened otherwise, then it's a net positive. But that's only a tiny fraction of patents actually awarded, because expert patent examination is expensive, so it is cheaper to delegate to the legal system. This mainly works to the advantage of deep pockets with an aggressive streak. If you had any idea how much of the sticker price of your electronics purchases went to fund hot tubs of marketing executives who brought no value add into the world, I think you would feel differently about this. Patents don't actually establish ownership of an idea. The establish the right to access the legal system to pursue a legal decision concerning ownership. We spin a legally untested patent portfolio as "IP", because it often works for shaking competitors down, even without being legally tested. Almost every patent contains a long list of specific claims, starting with the hideously overbroad (we own the whole world), and then successively narrowing down to more specific circumstances. You mainly hope that some narrow claim at the bottom holds water in the courtroom. Almost all of the claims in a typical patent are total non-starters. Judge: Yeah right, no you don't own the world. Now let's look at the next claim. Oh, this one is appropriately narrow, maybe this is one you can actually defend. Note that I fact checked this post with Gemini Advanced, which agreed with my legal points, for what that's worth. I am not a lawyer, but I'm pretty good at driving this new technology that will soon eat lawyers for breakfast.
@65atBestPB Ай бұрын
I have a bag full of Gen 2 patent infringements … I’m good until what comes next (please hurry). Part of me hopes they also patented plastic cores and crappy balls. 😁 I will flip off all Z5s I see on the courts.
@zaf7819 Ай бұрын
Rafael, I appreciate you going to such lengths to clarify a previous pod but I still have a few questions if I may. Aren't the courts supposed to arbitrate whether the Onix patent (or those of Apple, Microsoft, or Google, who frequently sue each other over patents years ex post facto) has merit and standing? Should companies be held responsible for conducting thorough patent research before manufacturing to ensure they aren’t infringing on existing patents? Is Onix profiting from judgments in their patent infringement lawsuits? Is it sometimes morally wrong to enforce a potentially valuable patent? Could you please clarify when you believe failed companies should refrain from seeking residual value in their existing patents?
@kabob21 Ай бұрын
That's already happened. Onix started by suing the company PICKL as a test and won the lawsuit. PICKL decided to shut down and liquidate their inventory. Whatever is on Amazon is pretty much the last of PICKL's inventory of paddles, balls, etc.
@scottdvorak5606 Ай бұрын
I'm not a lawyer. So I'm not sure this could even be done. But perhaps a group of manufacturers could join together in the equivalent to a class action lawsuit against Onyx over their patent. (Though, perhaps this is a "snooze you lose" kind of thing. They patented the process first. So they win.) Or, maybe another patent could be submitted that was similar. Perhaps this would force the Patent Office to review the situation, and realize that this technology has been around for a long time.
@cardinals5516 Ай бұрын
Thank you for keeping people informed about this issue.
@tylerwhite8930 Ай бұрын
Onix is going after small pickleball companies like Thanos going after infinity stones
@richwallick8671 Ай бұрын
A very clear, concise, and accurate description of how pickleball is being manipulated to increase the profits of the owners at the expense of those of us that love the sport and just wanna have fun. Every pickleballer should watch all your analyses (eg patents) of what is happening with pickleball to understand that the pickleball we know and love is being taken from us! Thanks for doing this!
@kabob21 Ай бұрын
I demoed the 14mm Mod TA-15 twice off a Joola sponsored player at my local indoor courts and couldn't understand the controversy. But I did enjoy the power but didn't think it was overwhelming and felt like the potential was there to hit some great controlled putaways at the net. Found a good deal on one and went ahead and bought it. Added edge guard tape around the entire perimeter to give it a touch more stability/weight/swing weight and an overgrip to get it to 8.2 oz. The first game I played with it felt much like the paddle I demoed, which was a relief. But then it started to break in more and the spin became crazy and the power off the charts. I also figured out how to hit dinks and volleys better the more I played and realized that these paddles really are like a cheat code for players with sound technique. Now I'm not sure if they're fair to other players like the critics have been saying. That said, I do play some of my best pickleball with it.
@richwallick8671 Ай бұрын
Sadly, after 50 years in high-tech, this type of suit is normal operating procedure. It an on-going business model with law firms that specialize in IP teaming up with companies that buy IP with the only consideration of suing other companies; there is no intent of using the IP. Pickleball is no longer some much a sport as it is a business with the sole goal of maximizing profit regardless of any damage done to those of us that love the sport. :( P.S. your reviews are by far the best and most interesting. Thank you for doing them!
@KuliSatuala Ай бұрын
Shapeshifter best paddle l ever used handle little big hope they make little small good paddle ever
@tylerwhite8930 Ай бұрын
Love the content! One of the most in depth reviews I've ever seen. Great job and keep up the good work! You are speaking well to paddle nerds everywhere 🫡
@logical333 Ай бұрын
Get rid of them!!!!!
@logical333 Ай бұрын
These paddles are ruining the game. No reason a guy should have one of these paddle unless he just wants to overpower opponents instead of finesse and strategy