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@brianmarshall1637
@brianmarshall1637 Күн бұрын
That is very interesting comment by eagle eye,British intelligence so involved in his mission and his death,the truth will never be known but is intrigueingnevertheless.Thank you.
@eagleeye8920
@eagleeye8920 10 күн бұрын
British intelligence used Lawrence of Arabia on their missions in the Middle East, and he was their most important man. When they learned he was writing his memoirs, they killed him in their favorite way: a road accident.
@eagleeye8920
@eagleeye8920 10 күн бұрын
British intelligence used Lawrence of Arabia on their missions in the Middle East, and he was their most important man. When they learned he was writing his memoirs, they killed him in their favorite way: a road accident.
@blackbird5634
@blackbird5634 16 күн бұрын
Lawrence was a racist, and classist, and he adopted an arrogant position of condescension towards the Arabs when it came to who was going to rule the middle east and who would profit from the oil fields. He may have lived among them, and been raped by them but that's hardly more than an Oxbridge ''education'' and he suffered no more nor less for it.
@blackbird5634
@blackbird5634 16 күн бұрын
Of course Lawrence was a racist. He went there with an invading army to effect politics and trade in the region. He went there to bend things towards and English sphere of influence. And for the most part he got off easy. If as he said, he was raped by Arabs then he felt a mere touch of the aggression they felt for his kind. He wasn't flayed over a fire pit, he wasn't shot or tortured, he experienced an Oxbridge ''education'' in buggery that many Englishmen find erotic.
@lizwood3514
@lizwood3514 23 күн бұрын
Of course the rape and the beating happened. He says in his letter to E M Forster in commenting on Forster's curious homosexual ghost story that he was taken by force sexually at Deraa. Why are all these scholars questioning it? He worried over these passages in Seven Pillars and rewrote them but could not bring himself to fully tell the story. It would have been difficult to tell such a story in the early 1900s. He tells Mrs Bernard Shaw, Charlotte Shaw, that it happened that he had given away his irrecoverable integrity to escape from the pain of the whipping. Why don't these scholars do what they are supposed to do and do their research?
@leonstone4738
@leonstone4738 2 ай бұрын
Note. They paid the Arabs many thousands in gold.
@JPWick
@JPWick 3 ай бұрын
@OP - Do you have part 2 of this documentary? That, or the complete, uncut version?
@barbarahowson8078
@barbarahowson8078 5 ай бұрын
Why is part 2 blocked and is there no way of seeing it apart from youtube?
@barbarahowson8078
@barbarahowson8078 5 ай бұрын
Please can anyone tell me where I can find Part 2? It just isn't complete without part 2.
@JPWick
@JPWick 3 ай бұрын
Has anybody found part 2 of this documentary? That, or the complete, uncut version?
@rayglover8697
@rayglover8697 8 ай бұрын
Tim was betrayed wasn't he - we can listen to all these elevating and hyperbolic glam stories but at the end of the day he promised King Feizel a sovereign state and a free Palestine but Lawrence was being used. All part of the centuries old divide and rule. Dividing the Arab Nations by lying to them to they break away from the Ottoman Empire and then once weekened attack each individual Nation and then rule over them. Once Lawrence realized he was being used he dropped out of the limelite, disillusioned and then lost his life in a bike accident. Many say that he was murdered by either the British sercret Service or Mossad. The accident was suspect enough but the lack of after care he received was doubly so. Recent research thrown light on this subject and has increased curiosity and speculation that he was murdrered. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJ3Zk6SEjNuksMU
@steveb5584
@steveb5584 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant . I want to do a trip like that in my mini
@ajarnwordsmith628
@ajarnwordsmith628 Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous then, gorgeous now. Helen Shapiro. Morphed into a superb jazz singer...
@TheGymnast71
@TheGymnast71 Жыл бұрын
so fun!
@whitelotus1960
@whitelotus1960 Жыл бұрын
OSHA would have a field day with this.
@James-nl6fu
@James-nl6fu Жыл бұрын
Lawrence rode his motorbike so fast, so long he wanted to die. His luck finally ran out and he found the peace that had always eluded him. Sad
@James-nl6fu
@James-nl6fu Жыл бұрын
The old b.b.c. like the old "times" used to be (an almost true?) journal of records by well qualified commentators.(How far they've fallen is so sad).
@James-nl6fu
@James-nl6fu Жыл бұрын
When he's caught, he's sexualy assaulted in an extremely specific Sado-Masochistic way. A way he felt profoundly stimulated by. Like everything about Lawrence much of it is probably flamboyantly fictional. Captors tend to have their own agendas
@katyevans5658
@katyevans5658 Жыл бұрын
How dare this amwrican guy talk such rubbish..ignorance and probably envy what a shame
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 Жыл бұрын
odd that they removed episode 2 of this series
@kasnilistopadski
@kasnilistopadski 2 ай бұрын
I'm only sad what ever the reason was. There is a another documentary on Lawrence I can't find anywhere
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 2 ай бұрын
@@kasnilistopadski yes, I watched the missing part when it was first posted - including the poem Lawrence wrote… (overseen by Robert Graves). There were Arabs still alive who remembered being with Laurence - and speaking well of him… I cannot remember more but the narration was first class and the readings from the Seven Pillars amazing. I was stupefied when, for whatever reason, some ‘bright spark’ deleted it from our view. So be it. God Bless now
@mikeyriart816
@mikeyriart816 Жыл бұрын
I tottaly agree with the coment of "molarmana 22" Why did he had to lie ??? It DID happened !!! In a comentary of John Mack book (A Prince of our Disorder) the author says from the comentas of another persons who "worked " with him who said "Se saw him VERY changed" More comments ???? Mike Yriart San Andrés Great Buenos Aires Argentina
@sblack48
@sblack48 Жыл бұрын
If you talk ti American soldiers operating in Afghanistan they will tell you that rape of young boys in the army and in the taliban was a regular occurrence. So it was commonplace in that part of the world. These “opinions” on whether or not it actually happened are based on nothing really. None of these people were there. What is the point of presenting them if there is no substance behind them?
@katbrown1449
@katbrown1449 Жыл бұрын
Its a glorious book. Really. The adventure. Through the years if one who was present , his perspective, through his eyes .Wonderfully descriptive. He puts you there.
@sarmadnadeem4659
@sarmadnadeem4659 Жыл бұрын
amazing!!!
@stephenmcdonald664
@stephenmcdonald664 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this superb documentary. When I was very young I went to see 'Lawrence of Arabia' at my local movie theatre in Ottawa, Canada. I bought the soundtrack album and have remained a huge history buff ever since. Lawrence was a decent, complex man, and this documentary provides an excellent view of his life. Again, thanks.
@phmwu7368
@phmwu7368 Жыл бұрын
In January 1929, as Thomas Edward Lawrence returned from a tour in British India, Bernard & Charlotte Shaw gifted him his third Brough Superior SS100 motor cycle, delivered February 1929, nicknamed "George VI". TE Lawrence kept UL656 until March 1932.
@briancross6820
@briancross6820 Жыл бұрын
TOO finally understand,Is knowing that in the hearts it is part home ASALWAYS BJC FRIENDS AND FAMILIES SDNEIRF yrc yppah
@briancross6820
@briancross6820 Жыл бұрын
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@artsahobby123
@artsahobby123 Жыл бұрын
The Beatles tour ended in Sept. 66, That's just my opinion. I can't live in the past? The future will soon be the past.
@artsahobby123
@artsahobby123 Жыл бұрын
All this unseen footage. Thanks.
@dankierson
@dankierson Жыл бұрын
Where is Part 2? You left out a crucial part of it, man. Lawrence didn't get into the Intelligence Service by accident.
@analhowietat2150
@analhowietat2150 2 жыл бұрын
We need part 2
@analhowietat2150
@analhowietat2150 2 жыл бұрын
where is the part 2? Which contains the interview of Sheikh Muhammad auda Abu Tayi, who is a witness to the revolution
@JPWick
@JPWick 3 ай бұрын
Has anybody found part 2 of this documentary? That, or the complete, uncut version?
@harahnallsto6239
@harahnallsto6239 2 жыл бұрын
7:27 Siegfried Sassoon! Didn't expect to see him here. The first footage I've ever seen of him, and it may be the only.
@phmwu7368
@phmwu7368 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas Lawrence's Oxford thesis titled "The Influence of the Crusades on European Military Architecture-to the End of the 12th Century" was based upon his own field research as he rode a bicycle in France to visit castles and walked the Middle East to study Crusader castles ! An interesting subject, available as a book titled "Crusader Castles" edited by Denys Pringle - Oxford University Press
@frederickbowdler8169
@frederickbowdler8169 Жыл бұрын
British spies were often given a hammer and told to look like eccentric archeologist nobody questioning a man with a trowel. The elite of the countries accepted him. it was a way in.
@leonidas130
@leonidas130 2 жыл бұрын
They were all jealous of him
@theoilandgasresourceportal2132
@theoilandgasresourceportal2132 2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone imagine the BBC commissioning a documentary like this now! A documentary talking about the exploits of white British people. A documentary that doesn't obsess about racism, imperialism, sexuality or transgenderism. The modern BBC is a joke and a disgrace
@peterbardy1296
@peterbardy1296 8 ай бұрын
Agreed
@samhawkins3847
@samhawkins3847 2 жыл бұрын
René Arnoux, great man, great excellent driver, great idol. Golden age of F1.
@charlessalyer208
@charlessalyer208 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and very sad
@charlessalyer208
@charlessalyer208 3 жыл бұрын
Where is part 2. This is amazing stuff
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this 2 or 3 years ago and the 2nd part was still in it, it's critical to, shame it's missing now.
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 2 жыл бұрын
I just remembered something that's got to be the reason they removed pt 2, in it they talked about a relationship that Lawrence had with a 13 year old middle eastern boy, I believe it was during his time on one of the digs he was on before the war, the boy was an aide or assistant to him if I remember correctly. It's the "relationship" that's kind of controversial, there's letters and possibly diary entries (it was several years ago I watched it) that suggest they may have had a relationship beyond it just being a friendly one, Lawrence says some things to the boy and/or about him in his writings that are at least borderline romantic. I'm sure that whoever has this channel came under pressure to remove it, or perhaps the BBC still has the right to dictate policy when it comes to what parts of this can be shown and they came under fire over it. The possibilities about whoever might have been in a twist over it are endless, all the way from people who put Lawrence on a pedestal to gay rights people could have applied the pressure, I don't believe it would have been Lawrence's family because his brother who's in other parts of this documentary addresses it and the question about his sexuality and as I recall comes right out and says that the possibility of Lawrence having been at least bisexual was pretty strong, so I'd rule out the family. But I can almost guarantee you that's why pt 2 has been removed from this series, somebody pressured somebody to do it.
@charlessalyer208
@charlessalyer208 2 жыл бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 thanks, very interesting.
@dankierson
@dankierson Жыл бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 I was thinking more about the BBC being under pressure to remove the part where L was "recruited" into the Intelligence services. He sure as hell didn't pay his own way for the crusader castles jaunt. His folks were comfortable but not _that_ rich.
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 Жыл бұрын
@@dankierson That's a possibility also, but seeing how that's a "cat's already out of the bag" kind of thing I doubt it, most likely it was the suggestion about him having an inappropriate relationship with a 13 year old boy, yea the cat may already be out of the bag on that also but with all this hash tag this and that going on anymore combined with the fact that just watching about something like that makes people so "uncomfortable" in this day and age I'd say most likely it was because of that, think about it, they're re-editing or canceling all kinds of stuff like that anymore for PC reasons, just try to find Disney's old movie Song of the South in a theater these days, when I was a kid it came through the theaters every year so all kids had a chance to see it growing up, now the thought of it horrifies people, although your theory is still plausible.
@vespelian5769
@vespelian5769 3 жыл бұрын
I once met a man who had served in the Tank Regiment when Lawrence was there. They spoke but by that time everyone knew who he was. I was very young when I met the old soldier and he was very. That was in Wales in 1978, so even before this film was was made. I miss those characters; they're gone now and I miss the BBC as was.
@ericadler9680
@ericadler9680 3 жыл бұрын
Calling Lawrence a racist like Said does means transporting moral judgements of our own day onto the past, which is a sign of bad scholarship. Said is a fraud.
@richardofoz2167
@richardofoz2167 3 жыл бұрын
Throughout this series of videos, the English captions are deplorable. What a pity that, having taken such trouble to explore the historical truth, the BBC failed to see it accurately translated.
@harrydebastardeharris987
@harrydebastardeharris987 3 жыл бұрын
I worked at Bovington Camp for over a year. I knew about TE because the Film was and is a favourite of mine.I rode to work from twenty miles away on my motorbike and was very careful on the last leg to Bovington lest the same fate happened to me. He was cruelly manipulated by a Colonial Elite and the trouble was,he knew it. I think his death was a relief for him,brought on partly by the UK Press. His position was made impossible,as more recent personality's have found release.
@linhiril664
@linhiril664 3 жыл бұрын
Lawrence had a goal and a plan, independence for the Arabs. All of his inconsistencies can be explained by saying that he shaped his arguments to his audience to achieve the ends he hoped for. If he was talking to the Arabs, he highlighted the things that would appeal to them. If to the British, he did the same.. This is written all over his actions. His fame was first a tool and then, after the old men outplayed him together, a punishment.
@chrisgay9623
@chrisgay9623 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have Part 2?
@JPWick
@JPWick 3 ай бұрын
Has anybody found part 2 of this documentary? That, or the complete, uncut version?
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 11 күн бұрын
@@JPWick Unfortunately, having once watched Part 2 about a decade ago here on KZbin, I noticed when subsequently I came back about 5 years back that, for mysterious reasons, the missing part was removed ... Baffling, isn't it? ... Perhaps something in that section of this superb documentary may have been 'sensitive' - or flawed - but I only imagine this, I don't know if my imagination is simply working too hard... In that missing part there was also a clip of a couple of Arabs still then alive who clearly held him in high regard ... It is for me a huge shame because it is the part with a hauntingly evocative reading of, 'To S.A.', his one and only poem (the frontispiece to 'The 7 Pillars.'). I think it is enigmatic and intensely sad - partly morbid - but it is one of the greatest contemporary poems every written (with a little help from Robert Graves, I heard it said). If you ever do find Part 2 - please let me know! God Bless.
@JPWick
@JPWick 11 күн бұрын
@@matthewstokes1608 Thanks for your response. If you know the complete referenceable name of this documentary, including its publisher/distributor, I might try contacting them directly through my university. I am currently siding diplomacy and international law, and Lawrence is at the center of my thesis.
@juttamaier2111
@juttamaier2111 3 жыл бұрын
A good documentary. Also shows some false interpretation mangled by religious beliefs, which is eye opening.
@JohnSmith-hh5tz
@JohnSmith-hh5tz 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to part 2?
@JPWick
@JPWick 3 ай бұрын
Has anybody found part 2 of this documentary? That, or the complete, uncut version?
@david2284180
@david2284180 3 жыл бұрын
If the British hadn't forced him to mislead the Arabs, he probably could have lived out the rest of his life in the middle east and treated very well.
@PurityVendetta
@PurityVendetta 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think any of us can ever truly know the man himself. Simply the effort of trying to view his life in historical context through the lens of 21st century attitudes and presuppositions makes it impossible. That said, Lawrence's life is none the less fascinating and there is much to be taken away from what we do know and, in particular, his writings. If only we all could live such interesting and full lives, but there is always a price to be paid by those that do...
@stephenmcdonald664
@stephenmcdonald664 Жыл бұрын
Well said.