T E Lawrence and Arabia. BBC documentary pt 3 of 7

1986 BBC 90 minute documentary biography of T E Lawrence. In 1987 T E's brother AW Lawrence wrote to the BBC producers, "I have at last had the video shown to me, it is impeccable, a splendid achievement. I can't thank you enough, not only as an individual, but on behalf of historic truth"

[@analhowietat2150]

We need part 2

[@charlessalyer208]

Where is part 2. This is amazing stuff

[@dukecraig2402]

I watched this 2 or 3 years ago and the 2nd part was still in it, it's critical to, shame it's missing now.

[@dukecraig2402]

I just remembered something that's got to be the reason they removed pt 2, in it they talked about a relationship that Lawrence had with a 13 year old middle eastern boy, I believe it was during his time on one of the digs he was on before the war, the boy was an aide or assistant to him if I remember correctly. It's the "relationship" that's kind of controversial, there's letters and possibly diary entries (it was several years ago I watched it) that suggest they may have had a relationship beyond it just being a friendly one, Lawrence says some things to the boy and/or about him in his writings that are at least borderline romantic. I'm sure that whoever has this channel came under pressure to remove it, or perhaps the BBC still has the right to dictate policy when it comes to what parts of this can be shown and they came under fire over it. The possibilities about whoever might have been in a twist over it are endless, all the way from people who put Lawrence on a pedestal to gay rights people could have applied the pressure, I don't believe it would have been Lawrence's family because his brother who's in other parts of this documentary addresses it and the question about his sexuality and as I recall comes right out and says that the possibility of Lawrence having been at least bisexual was pretty strong, so I'd rule out the family. But I can almost guarantee you that's why pt 2 has been removed from this series, somebody pressured somebody to do it.

[@charlessalyer208]

@@dukecraig2402 thanks, very interesting.

[@dankierson]

@@dukecraig2402 I was thinking more about the BBC being under pressure to remove the part where L was "recruited" into the Intelligence services. He sure as hell didn't pay his own way for the crusader castles jaunt. His folks were comfortable but not _that_ rich.

[@dukecraig2402]

@@dankierson That's a possibility also, but seeing how that's a "cat's already out of the bag" kind of thing I doubt it, most likely it was the suggestion about him having an inappropriate relationship with a 13 year old boy, yea the cat may already be out of the bag on that also but with all this hash tag this and that going on anymore combined with the fact that just watching about something like that makes people so "uncomfortable" in this day and age I'd say most likely it was because of that, think about it, they're re-editing or canceling all kinds of stuff like that anymore for PC reasons, just try to find Disney's old movie Song of the South in a theater these days, when I was a kid it came through the theaters every year so all kids had a chance to see it growing up, now the thought of it horrifies people, although your theory is still plausible.

[@dankierson]

Where is Part 2? You left out a crucial part of it, man. Lawrence didn't get into the Intelligence Service by accident.

[@kentishtowncowboy]

Really enjoying this. I'd forgotten I'd seen it. Thanks for posting :-)

[@barbarahowson8078]

Why is part 2 blocked and is there no way of seeing it apart from youtube?

[@trevorfuson715]

Why the hdll would you have a seven part series except part two which is blocked in the states . I can watch six of them but not the second. What a pain in the ass.

[@aryehfinklestein9041]

Edward Said is wrong here ( as he usually was in contexts outside the realm of Literature ); Lawrence's SEVEN PILLARS is not merely a beautiful literary, imaginative work bereft of actual historical significance. It certainly does rank poetically and stylistically among the more impressive prose compositions of the 20th. century. But ( notwithstanding certain errors and exaggerations ), and contrary to Said's thesis, it also offers an invaluable historical account by the only man who lived that heroic and extraordinary life.

[@tarnopol]

Well, sure, but one should never just blindly trust any memoir or autobiography.

[@phmwu7368]

1926 “Seven Pillars of Wisdom” , Thomas Edward Lawrence’s book initially intended as a travel guide about type cities of the East: Cairo, Smyrna, Constantinople, Beirut, Aleppo, Damascus, and Medina. An echo of British art critic John Ruskin's "Seven Lamps of Architecture" first published in 1849, on the demands that good architecture must meet.

[@phmwu7368]

@@tarnopol Except " The Authorized biography " by Jeremy Wilson ( 1188 pages hardcover ) 🧐

[@BelatedCommiseration]

Really amazing how much Peter O Toole really looked like Lawrence! Its almost a spitting image! Quite a superficial point, but it just really struck me when I saw the picture of Lawrence at 1:50

[@aryehfinklestein9041]

Exactly. O'Toole was something like 6'3", and Lawrence was quite short. While acknowledging that it's a great movie, I've always thought that the extreme difference in height was detrimental to painting a completely accurate picture of the hero; because height, after all, quite often affects the psychology and demeanor, etc.

[@DeepScreenAnalysis]

Aryeh Finklestein - but O’toole’e Lawrence is probably how the real man imagined or dreamed himself to be. There is a difference between the reality of who we are and our image of ourselves. That’s why the casting was so inspired. If we’re going to quibble about miscasting, it’s no more absurd than Alex Guinness running around in dark makeup.

[@mikejohnson599]

amazing part 2 blocked in the usa im trying to imagine the reasons some conspiracy theory no doubt

[@gremista]

blocked in brazil too. there's at least another playlist in which ep 2 also blocked

[@IfUfindthisURlost]

I'm in the UK and can't get part 2.

[@rudolphmendoza1089]

The dreams to build a better and richer Europe was always in his mind, influenced by books and the great planners of a perfect Europeanised region on earth...Helped by an Arabian people who don't really understand his friendship or inner motivation...Much to his advantage their gross ignorance worked in his favour...