this way you will need a C axis on the spindle and live tooling, but something similar could be done with a threading cycle also.
@faroukmastercam439510 күн бұрын
@TheSuntravel so the same program withe small changes to run on haas lathe with C and livetool
@TheSuntravel10 күн бұрын
@@faroukmastercam4395 yes with adjustments to the Haas specific variable names.
@Schraubfreak16 күн бұрын
Sehr schön umgesetzte Lösung.
@LeonGriffijn18 күн бұрын
Hey Uwe I have a few tech questions is there any way I could get in touch with you so I could ask some questions about a lathe and a milling machine
@TheSuntravel18 күн бұрын
user suntravel in the centroidcncforum.com/
@CallanMorganАй бұрын
Nice work! How did you get around the backlash and not have a brake in the rotary table for the 4th axis?
@TheSuntravel29 күн бұрын
You can adjust the worm gear in the Vertex to almost no backlash < 0.04 deg.
@CallanMorgan29 күн бұрын
@@TheSuntravel do you find that you dont need a torque brake? what drive motor are you using on your 4th axis? Thanks
@TheSuntravel29 күн бұрын
@@CallanMorgan no need for a brake with worm gear for the cutting my machine is capable of. It is a 4Nm CL stepper.
@cnckeithАй бұрын
very nice!!
@AdamMaszynotworАй бұрын
🦾🦾
@chadstrand7868Ай бұрын
thats awesome thanks for the video
@mitchm275Ай бұрын
what cam u use?
@TheSuntravelАй бұрын
Here none, only handcoding. For complex toopaths I use Fusion 360
@mitchm275Ай бұрын
do you have a build video, log? forum post etc? id like to see this build in progress
@TheDaumenАй бұрын
What package is the machine builder in?
@TheSuntravelАй бұрын
This is default fusion 360 stuff. There is more included I could learn in a livetime :)
@ROBOROBOROBOROBOАй бұрын
Man you are a DIY CNC hero :D Fell in love with your videos Do you need to first level the cutters and put them to their 0 after tool changes?
@TheSuntravelАй бұрын
Thank you. The tools are set up automatic with a probe and then stored in the tool lib of the CNC
@ROBOROBOROBOROBOАй бұрын
@@TheSuntravel Thank you for the answer Uwe Do you run your lathe at 400 Volts at home? 😃 If so how do you do that 😃
@TheSuntravelАй бұрын
@@ROBOROBOROBOROBO In Germany almost any house is with 400V at least for the kitchen stove. The late was with a 400V motor, but now it is with a 1.5kw 220V Servo
@ROBOROBOROBOROBOАй бұрын
Hi Uwe, do you use 3d interpolation to make the edge sharper? I know you need to manually sharpen it anyways but I think it would also be nice Also I think this type of steel isnt food safe, its also prone to rusting? Did you coat them maybe? Stay safe if you are using it for sushi :)
@rolandkulet7302Ай бұрын
belle machine
@ROBOROBOROBOROBOАй бұрын
Man can you one day walk us thorugh your Fusion 360 CAM setup? I also want to convert a mill to a cnc but scared about Fusion post processing
@ericmarcadal78982 ай бұрын
Travail parfait comme d’habitude 👍 c’est satisfaisant de voir de beaux usinages
@frijoli95792 ай бұрын
That was an annoying video. gott'a narrate dude
@shawnhanifan25002 ай бұрын
I assume you could create the gradations using the general license(positional 4th or 3+1), but the numbers require use of the Manufacturing Extension which is more than $1000 per year in addition to the general license) as the tool path is a true simultaneous 4th axis path? I have a rotary 4th, but cannot afford the additional Extension license.
@TheSuntravel2 ай бұрын
That is made with the default license since only AXZ are moving together, Y is only wrapped around the A axis. 3+2 Axis is included in the default license. 5axis simultaneous will require the machining extension in fusion and the Ultimate+ License from Centroid
@shawnhanifan25002 ай бұрын
@@TheSuntravel I was referring to the Fusion 360 license to create the CAM.
@TheSuntravel2 ай бұрын
@@shawnhanifan2500 sure, AXZ together is no problem for fusion default license
@raindeergames61042 ай бұрын
as always You are a rockstar for the home diy enthusiasts.
@ROBOROBOROBOROBO2 ай бұрын
Wow, this is great, doesnt the z axis have ballscrews, is there an issue with precision ? I also would love to buy Paulimot F307 to convert it. As far as I can see its the best value for the price. Maybe HBM 45 but it doesnt have ballscrews, however I also read your forum entry and I guess you needed to change X axis ballscrews anyway because it was low quality
@wernerjacobs76882 ай бұрын
Hallo, könnten sie mir bitte mitteilen welche Endschalter sie benutzt haben?
@TheSuntravel2 ай бұрын
SN04-N SN04N 4mm Approach Sensor NPN 6-30V
@wernerjacobs76882 ай бұрын
vielen Dank
@raindeergames61042 ай бұрын
I actually completely forgot bit o had a 2.6Kw 10Nm servo and drover. AASD system. That was tucked away for 3years now😂. I got it out and setup and running. Your video inspire me to get going. I will reteofit this on my manual mill soon. I have a question and I know this might be a long explanation tequored. How does Your lathe change from speed control to positional control for live tooling use? I looking to purchase a large 3.8Kw servo woth a brake but i want to make sure i get the correct servo for my lathe. I just purchased a AccordSix lathe controller. What type of servo with brake do You recommend?
@TheSuntravel2 ай бұрын
Most servos can switch to different modes with an input. In Acorn you have to set up one output to C-Axis enable, so when issuing M51, this output will switch the servo to position mode.
@raindeergames61042 ай бұрын
Is a brake needed or is 15Nm holding torque sufficient?@TheSuntravel
@TheSuntravel2 ай бұрын
@@raindeergames6104 That depends on the cutting you want to do. If you use the C-Axis only for indexing a brake will be better, but if you do not have a Y Axis, this is simulated with C and X axis to mill a hex ect...
@raindeergames61042 ай бұрын
@TheSuntravel I want my lathe do be able to do the same milling that Yours can do to cut like the hexes on custom titanium bolts and stuff like that.
@TheSuntravel2 ай бұрын
@@raindeergames6104 I have a 20Nm C-Axis no brake, that is ok for light cutting. My live tooling is anyway only with 400W
@raindeergames61042 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff
@eric-89982 ай бұрын
Terrific! Uwe + Centroid... you know it's going to be good. I run a 7 axis mill-turn and I do a mix of CAM & hand coding for it. Works great. Some CAM packages (like SolidCam) can also do projection engraving, where it will generate code on any non-orthagonal surface, using a sketch in a flat plane above it.
@shanebarrett58272 ай бұрын
Can you tell me what wattage and nm clutch you used. I’m searching eBay for something cheap maybe an old stock item. My lathe is much larger so I’ll probably have to have pretty big clutch. I’ll be driving my c axis with 2kw servo. My lathe is a 1440 with a 7.5hp main spindle motor and a 8” chuck. I plan to use the same method as you have for my c-axis. Also can I add the y axis and run it with standard acorn 4axis board with the pro license. I had originally plan for c-axis only but you’ve open my eyes to the possibilities. Thank you so much for any advice you can offer.
@TheSuntravel2 ай бұрын
I am using a custom made Mayr Robatic www.mayr.com/de/produkte/kupplungen/elektromagnetkupplungen/robatic~1964 / Nm drive*reduction rate*safety factor
@zinzinpreparation2 ай бұрын
Hi Uwe. Do you have link for servo and driver ? Thank you
Very nice setup. Very smooth motion from the servo. What is the part number for this servo driver? Im in tje market for something simulator for my manual milling machine convertion to a servo
@TheSuntravel2 ай бұрын
LCMT 26M -130M -10025 Servo and A5 driver
@raindeergames61042 ай бұрын
Nice I looked at the specs looks like a good option for my purposes as well. I dont know how much torque is required for a manual mill to do low rpm work and tapping witjiu a gearbox @TheSuntravel
@raindeergames61042 ай бұрын
@TheSuntravel i did a quick search and it seems that You can safely tap up to M10 x 1.25 size in alloy steel with 10Nm. Im actually surprised by that.
@TheSuntravel2 ай бұрын
@@raindeergames6104 this one 1:1 on the spindle can tap M16 easy...
@raindeergames61042 ай бұрын
Wow i did nit realize it requires so little torque. When I tap it by jabd it alsways feels so heavy. I need to go to gym me thinks😂@TheSuntravel
@ryanpetersenart2 ай бұрын
Love this, very nice work. Questions: what is controlling/commanding the live tooling speed?
@ryanpetersenart2 ай бұрын
This is amazing! Any change i can purchase some rough plans? Im all setup with my c axis and was about to build a 4axis but now that i see yours it would be ideal for live tooling. Let me know thanks
@cynstan3 ай бұрын
just make a swiss machine -- i know you can
@samshalini3 ай бұрын
Can u share vise fixture model file
@TheSuntravel3 ай бұрын
It is on grabcad grabcad.com/library/vertex-hv6-cnc-with-centric-vise-1
@user-jv4vf4qo8z3 ай бұрын
Is M125 a built-in m command, or a macro. Right out of the box does acorn have probe protection built in?
@TheSuntravel3 ай бұрын
M125 and probe protection are built in functions.
@95GTSpeedDemon3 ай бұрын
Your stickers say your an old gearhead
@TheSuntravel3 ай бұрын
Yeah, long time road racing with V8 :)
@95GTSpeedDemon3 ай бұрын
@@TheSuntravel nice. Ford, chevy, or mopar? Im a ford guy myself
@TheSuntravel3 ай бұрын
@@95GTSpeedDemon Pontiac Trans Am with Dough Nash 5 Speed and a bored 455 big block...
@95GTSpeedDemon3 ай бұрын
@@TheSuntravel is that a pro shifted style box?
@yurimatrak44783 ай бұрын
Do you recommend the paulimot lathe?
@TheSuntravel3 ай бұрын
Only if you cannot afford a better one like Weiler or Hardinge, and if you have the skills to rework what is not ok on a cheap Chinese lathe.
@yurimatrak44783 ай бұрын
@@TheSuntravel thank you for the comment. I am a starting hobby enthusiast in this job. I honestly can't afford a top of the line lathe for now. It would be helpful if you could guide me to make the paulimot a bit better if possible. Thanks
@yurimatrak44782 ай бұрын
Hello sir, Could you please help me out, I am looking to buy a benchtop lathe, I have a budget of 4K what would you recommend.
@mikehoncho53893 ай бұрын
Uwe, can you let me know what size servo motors and ballscrews you used? I have a 13x40 I’ve been thinking about converting. I have an oak controller on my mill now. I’m thinking about using an acorn on my lathe.
@TheSuntravel3 ай бұрын
400W JMC AC Servos on the axes, 1500W on the spindle. Z 20x5 ball screw X and Y 12x4 ball screw
@klauszenkert49694 ай бұрын
Topp Arbeit. Ist schon eine schöne Sache, wenn man eine kleine CNC Maschine hat. 🙂👍👍👍
@HM-Projects4 ай бұрын
Witchcraft! How did you tune the gcode to compensate ?
@TheSuntravel4 ай бұрын
One test piece with cylindrical tool path, measure and eliminate the taper with a smaller start diameter.
@-1-2-1-4 ай бұрын
No taper. Thats interesting. THe deflection must be in a direction that does not move away from the cutting edge.
@TheSuntravel4 ай бұрын
No, I compensated this in the g-code...
@rexmundi81544 ай бұрын
@@TheSuntravelinteresting. Can you explain how?
@TheDaumen4 ай бұрын
I was really impressed with the lack of taper. Great job.
@ECabinet4 ай бұрын
Hallo Uwe Bitte was fürs Servos nutzt Du? Vielen Danke und gruesse.
@TheSuntravel4 ай бұрын
Das sind nur 4Nm CL Stepper von Stepperonline an den Achsen. Hier ist auch noch der originale Spindelmotor drauf...
@groverw75074 ай бұрын
Lovely dexterity and ingenious DIY machine!
@craigromero-sr9kn4 ай бұрын
Could you index with dowel pins and use a magneticly mounted arm instead of screwing it everything
@TheSuntravel4 ай бұрын
possible, but I do not like magnets on machines producing steel chips.
@craigromero-sr9kn4 ай бұрын
@TheSuntravel I was thinking the magnets were on the mount so when your finished indexing it would be saved elsewhere
@subuser96274 ай бұрын
Where did you get the small square for this probe ? If you put a dial-indicator with a flat stylus in it, you could also use it for the height setting of the tools.
@TheSuntravel4 ай бұрын
It is a support plate from a toolholder for SNMG12 inserts like a MSDNN 1616H12
@subuser96274 ай бұрын
@@TheSuntravel Yes I found it, it's a MS1204 Tungsten Carbide Shim, thanks.
@TheSuntravel4 ай бұрын
@@subuser9627 Some of them are not ground on the sides, so you have to fine ground them...
@lawmate5 ай бұрын
Great work. Bet that will speed up your workflow a good deal
@Chutes_aluminium_plastique5 ай бұрын
Good 😮
@ericmarcadal78985 ай бұрын
Parfait, très belle réalisation et d'une belle précision
@nancylizzmcculloch44565 ай бұрын
Great Work!
@hydipieterse93185 ай бұрын
Awesome work Uwe, did you use the same livetool in a multifix holder that you made previously?
@TheSuntravel5 ай бұрын
That is an option too, but in this case a cheap 500W 100V DC spindle.
@subuser96275 ай бұрын
Was thinking about it. But you did it, better than my solution. Nice Job. You did use tool T05 as a reference for the cut-off Tool ? What kind of cut-off Tool was this, a 1mm ? I only found 1.5 mm on Internet.
@TheSuntravel5 ай бұрын
Parting off is with swiss Applitec: shop.applitec-tools.com/en/1028-741n X and Z Reference is set with T0101 as usual, after this is set you can use the probe in all directions.
@TheDaumen5 ай бұрын
Great work Uwe!
@RCDrehteile5 ай бұрын
Eindrucksvoller Kontent, wie jedes mal. Aber ich habe noch eine Frage: Wie wiederholgenau ist der Arm, wenn du ihn abnimmst und dann wieder montierst ? oder musst du die Referenzposition immer wieder neu bestimmen ? Gruß Michael
@TheSuntravel5 ай бұрын
Nach ner Weile in Gebrauch hatte ich nicht mehr als 0.02mm Durchmesserabweichung ohne neue Referenzposition direkt nach neu einmessen. Hatte ja erst angedacht das mit einer Verzahnung zu machen, aber 2 Anlageflächen scheinen auch zu reichen. In X und Z positive Richtung kann man den Auslöseweg des Tasters mit den Maßen der Messplatte in den Parametern fein tunen.