Are 64 ft ranks worth the huge cost? How often are they used, and how many people would notice the difference? I heard of some cathedral where they couldn't use the lowest rank because it caused damage to the building. I've heard the 64 ft rank described as producing an "expensive draft".
@cnagorkaАй бұрын
IMHO the 64' stops aren't worth the cost, and there's a reason only two organs in the world have a full set- they just aren't very useful. It's unlikely any damage to a building would be caused by use of any organ stops, it's kind of an urban legend sort of thing. The "expensive draft" comment was relating to a 32' Bourdon buried in the back of a chamber which didn't get out into the room, I think that's in the Barnes book.
@wisconsingoldprospecting17162 ай бұрын
I would hate to see a modern approach to things but they should replace the beaters with a couple 30 inch powersoft m force servo subs i think that would be a cleaner sound unless the racket is pipe flex
@cnagorka2 ай бұрын
That would actually be interesting to try- but remember that you would need on sub per resonator.
@wisconsingoldprospecting1716Ай бұрын
Yes unfortunately it would probably be complicated and very expensive
@lukereilly49633 ай бұрын
These are great videos. Thank you for making them. Good work!
@cnagorka3 ай бұрын
Thanks. Not sure if I'll be able to do any more this year but next year should have lots of uploads.
@LambentSonata3 ай бұрын
"CCCCC" can't be right. The note you played was about 8.18Hz, which is C-1 or "CCCC". "CCCCC" would be C-2 which is about 4.09Hz. You wouldn't be able to hear that at all; at most you'd feel pressure fluctuations in your eardrum, about 4 per second. So you must be using midi notation, in which -- for some reason that's always eluded me -- each note is named with notation that's 1 octave too low. Eg, C4(cc) becomes C3(c); C2(C) becomes C1(CC); and apparently C-1(CCCC) becomes C-2(CCCCC).
@enoffz80213 ай бұрын
Sounds like a percussion instrument.
@enoffz80213 ай бұрын
You can count the 8 beats per second at 7:40
@cnagorka3 ай бұрын
...which is interesting as the pitch is right at 8Hz.
@enoffz80213 ай бұрын
@@cnagorka Yes, 8 per second. Interesting fact: When a open ended pipe is closed at one end it vibrates at half the frequency (an octave lower). Try it with a flute headjoint.
@kennethberry15323 ай бұрын
Took the tour on aug 21 fantastic tour guide outstanding concert
@friendlypiranha7744 ай бұрын
On one of the other channels, they referred to it as 'a tuned earthquake'.
@EpicureMammon5 ай бұрын
You can count the frequency. :D
@leemarks8136 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation! Thank you.
@Nintendoman8516 ай бұрын
Chris might hate flat notes. lol.
@AugustusTitus7 ай бұрын
SCIENCE!
@WilliamMitchell-sc3fe7 ай бұрын
When eill the Fanfare and Echo divisions be restored?
@archdukeofsynth7 ай бұрын
Cardboard or Bakelite/phenolic? Hmm...
@pukavita8 ай бұрын
That is a very impressive organ! I’m amazed at the craftsmanship involved. However, I don’t understand the need for such low frequency notes. What piece would involve playing these notes? I’d be curious to hear them in action.
@cnagorka8 ай бұрын
There's no piece specifically written for these pipes, you just add them as you think appropriate.
@soulsweeper16308 ай бұрын
I know this may be a stupid question but are these percussion instruments able to be heard across the hall or are they only heard close to the grille
@cnagorka8 ай бұрын
You can hear them in the hall surprisingly well.
@b43xoit9 ай бұрын
That's one hell of an oscillator. It's based on gassy equivalents of inductance and capacitance.
@stephenrichie46469 ай бұрын
I never knew a 64’ existed! Amazing.
@GeorgeCarlin889 ай бұрын
right after this video, his asistant wrongly press C# instead of C, Now Chris's nickname is Beethoven.
@OrganMusicYT9 ай бұрын
I have noticed numerous comments here stating that the stop is unmusical. Its purpose is not to be musical, but rather to support the ensemble. It is not really audible through headphones or speakers, only harmonics are heard. The true sound of the pipe is beyond the capabilities of most electronic sound systems and even human hearing. This stop is more about being felt in the room rather than heard.
@db55172 ай бұрын
Exactly. It's a foundation. Even the 32' bombarde sounds like jackhammer by itself, but when in the ensemble it provides that rich foundation. The best example for me is when Boellmann's Suite Gothique Toccata is played on the organ of St. Ouen Abbey.
@masonmeyer46992 ай бұрын
SO I finally got to visit the Boardwalk Hall and hear the organ when Anna Lapwood played last Spring. I always wondered how pratical the 64' would be or how impressive it would be in a huge room. We were seated beyond the floor on a section of seats on concrete if I remember. Anna said she'd use the 64" in whichever piece she was playing so I was expecting something. I was pretty blown away by the earth shaking goodness it brought while even sitting on concrete. It added a granduer that I couldn't imagine beyond what a 32" can do. Impressive for sure.
@george1la10 ай бұрын
That is real music power. How interesting. Even you all did not know.
@charlesjohnston150610 ай бұрын
Very cool! Thanks.
@basshorseman99810 ай бұрын
Thank you for the tour, only wish the times I've been there I could have seen it up close, as I have toured other lesser organ backrooms and basements in the past. As a keyboardist, I have always been fascinated by the workings of acoustic resonances.
@williamlewis932010 ай бұрын
What is musical about that noise?
@OrganMusicYT9 ай бұрын
It's not supposed to be musical. It's not supposed to be used as a solo stop but, as part of a larger ensemble. It's an effect more than anything else.
@WouterTukker11 ай бұрын
Quite honestly, the full-length 64´ Trombone of the Town Hall organ in Sydney has an even more impressive sound (I guess any such garbage bag would be torn to pieces there for after all, this is "just" a Dulcian). Yet I cannot wait to hear this organ restored to its former glory and filling the Boardwalk Hall with waves of sound, because when we´re talking organs, size DOES matter 🙂
@laurataylor446911 ай бұрын
What does it sound like when it’s played in a song?
@cnagorka11 ай бұрын
You'd be disappointed to hear it with the rest of the organ, it gets lost as it isn't very loud compared to everything else.
@boidsen Жыл бұрын
LOL - like a Lanz-Bulldog...
@Salmagundiii Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm trying to figure out a very fast passage of orchestral string fioritura for an organ transcription I want to make. That software might come in handy.
@micahh9351 Жыл бұрын
Yall need to put an interlock system and a waiver for hitting the tutti fff stop once this organ is fully functioning again. That stop could probably level the building
@citizen9790 Жыл бұрын
Most unmusical, but quite a lot of fun!
@drwilburhughes680 Жыл бұрын
Impressive until you look at and hear the full lenght 64' Contra trombone in the Sydney Town Hall organ. No cheating here!
@princeedmirovillar8044 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like a drum
@Daveinet Жыл бұрын
So why don't we just call that the John Deere notes?
@johnhenryholiday4964 Жыл бұрын
Up close and without support of other ranks its sounds totally non musical.... but in combination with other ranks the true richness of a deep "set point" base shows through....
@keithnichols7926 Жыл бұрын
Maybe my ears don't work right, but that sound had no musical quality at all. It sounded like a farm tractor engine
@OrganMusicYT Жыл бұрын
It has zero musical quality on it's own. When you hear it with the rest of the organ, it underpins it. That's the whole purpose of it.
@xsm5525 Жыл бұрын
it's quite low, but compared to the sub bass in genres like amapiano, it's nothing much.
@craigbrowning9448 Жыл бұрын
Some of the letters look like the ones you see in vertical sections of mines.
@JP-rf7px Жыл бұрын
I can't even imagine how they fit all this stuff into the chambers without 3D cad to guide them. And left room for access. Did they pre-assemble each chamber in a shop before installing? But the woodwork is beautiful with everything varnished and the treads of the ladders mortised into the stringers for strength.
@RockStarOscarStern634 Жыл бұрын
Chris Nagorka Diaphone is basically a Subcontrabass Diapason extension
@cnagorka Жыл бұрын
Not really as the tone is more akin to a reed stop, it's more like a Contra Bombarde extension.
@RockStarOscarStern634 Жыл бұрын
@@cnagorka So more like a Contrabass Bombarde/Diapason Hybrid
@RockStarOscarStern634 Жыл бұрын
@@cnagorka It uses a Spring Loaded Pallet as the Reed
@antoniograncino3506 Жыл бұрын
That low CCCC just sounds like someone banging on garbage cans in the alley---or dumpsters, rather.. How can that be deemed "musical" ?
@markkuhnlein3081 Жыл бұрын
It looks like a ghost 😱😱😱
@Musician-Lee Жыл бұрын
Fascinating
@eddiewillers1 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure I can hear an underlying, slightly higher-pitch, beat frequency playing.
@laiyemoboys9255 Жыл бұрын
Now play C-1 and C♯-1 at the same time 😂😂!
@laiyemoboys9255 Жыл бұрын
C-1 (actually B-2)
@signbear999 Жыл бұрын
That Chinese crash cymbal says 記瑞 (Rui Ji) on it, which is the store that produced and exported the cymbals between around 1914 and the 1930s.
@cnagorka Жыл бұрын
Good info!
@realBaronFletcher Жыл бұрын
Good lord! ❤❤❤
@anthonygiglio9860 Жыл бұрын
Great Tour I Heard A Story About Neil Diamond Would Hire A Organist To Play While He Walked Through The Chambers He Did That To Clear His Head
@dhelton40 Жыл бұрын
Just saw there is another video of this from the hall.
@dhelton40 Жыл бұрын
It is great to see this, it might be useful to hear it in the hall with other ranks, as I am sure it's effect is best heard at a distance.