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@anthonypeterson5618
@anthonypeterson5618 4 сағат бұрын
What Elon means, Workaround developments or foreign corporate implementation justify not paying royalties when borrowing isn't feasible.
@TrevorFraserAU
@TrevorFraserAU Күн бұрын
Great job, thanks!
@CallTheSheriff
@CallTheSheriff Күн бұрын
Combined with solar, sodium ion batteries have real possibility to solve many environmental problems. I would like to hear more about reclamations of resources as compared to lithium.
@jimparr01Utube
@jimparr01Utube 2 күн бұрын
Despite the perfect English narrative, this video is marred by a single slip... All Our Patent are Belong to You // Tesla Patents 101 Thanks anyway.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 2 күн бұрын
😂 Someone didn't get the joke
@jimparr01Utube
@jimparr01Utube 2 күн бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor OK folks. Please enlighten me. My sense of humor and irony sensors are somewhat atrophied in these times.
@SkepticalCaveman
@SkepticalCaveman 2 күн бұрын
Patents, like copyright, stifels creativity and innovation. At least patents have a more reasonable time limit than copyright. Trademarks are great though, since they protect costumers from fraud.
@caseydbani1419
@caseydbani1419 2 күн бұрын
learned something new: the reciprocity catch. Now I understand why no competitor dares to use the Tesla patents and lose the last tiny advantage they think they have over Tesla with their own, expensive patents
@SmithNatasha-hc7mq
@SmithNatasha-hc7mq 3 күн бұрын
Hit 200k today. Thank you for all the knowledge and nuggets you had thrown my way over the last months. Started with 14k in last month 2024 ,,,,,
@Chioma-cz5ud
@Chioma-cz5ud 3 күн бұрын
Wow that's huge, how do you make that much monthly?
@slowlydrowninginirrelevance
@slowlydrowninginirrelevance 3 күн бұрын
BYD EVs spontaneous combusting all over China and this channel trying to gaslight that the blade battery is safer from thermal runaway.
@edwardr8826
@edwardr8826 3 күн бұрын
Patents are not for the weak. Most patents don't matter but the ones that do can carry a billion dollar company. Recently in the battery industry, LG ensol and panasonic combined many of their patents that do and don't matter into a patents consortium "Tulip Innovation" in hungary and are about to play gate keeper with all these new players in europe and internationally (with a focus on china-based companies setting up shop in europe)
@jorgesoto5499
@jorgesoto5499 3 күн бұрын
Love the "cowboy approach " disclaimer. I learned much, good stuff
@klauszinser
@klauszinser 3 күн бұрын
What should be mentioned is the pharmaceutical industry who relies extremely on patents. Its also because they have (I think its somehow in, or linked with the patent) extremely high expenses and it takes a very long time (10-15 years or even longer) until they can bring the products to the. In this area patents can last I think 3 years longer. So in the past they had a very good protection and a kind of monopoly. Currently Novo Nordisk is in such a position. But it was said there are already competitors. Maybe this extraordinary good method of keeping competitors through patents is even falling in the pharmaceutical industry (included Biotech).
@kn944
@kn944 3 күн бұрын
You need to check your patent # source. Tesla Inc (EV business) only owns 416 active patent families. This is a very very small number for a large company. So small it is essentially zero. For comparison, Toyota has 54,424 active patent families.
@klauszinser
@klauszinser 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for mentioning this. The could be a clear indication that Tesla does the patents maybe in 1-2 countries. Others do it in nearly all the countries they produce and sell. I am again with the idea of: Freedom to Operate. Making sure no patent trolls can come around claiming an other patent is violated. Having a granted patent is the proof that the technology or product has not been there anywhere in the world. ( I was told it happens very very rare that there is a failure and the patent examinors did not realize that the idea was already there. Then have to reject the patent application. It would not be possible to get a patent anywhere in the world.
@tonysurber9111
@tonysurber9111 3 күн бұрын
"Patents are for the week!" I love it. Makes a good point.
@ismailnyeyusof3520
@ismailnyeyusof3520 3 күн бұрын
Yes, I enjoyed this video and hit the like button because it’s all I can afford for now. I just hope my Tesla shares 10x soon! As an aside, one point you made in this video really helped me understand Elon’s strengths. You said that Elon is a great engineer and that is why he attracts so many great engineers to work in his company. Too often I have seen claims that Elon’s not an engineer for all kinds of lame reasoning but if he’s not an engineer, then how can he attract so many great engineers? Great engineers, not just engineers, they’re a special breed!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 күн бұрын
🎯🤠🙌🏼
@paulkemp5938
@paulkemp5938 3 күн бұрын
I am a patent attorney and I doubt I could improve much on this piece. Elon came out of the IT industry where patents are commonly used for licensing. This seems to be the foundation of the approach he has adopted with Tesla. Patents are still being used to maintain some control of the innovations, while requiring other actors to innovate and not just take.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 күн бұрын
❤️ Really happy to hear it. Thanks! This is definitely not my area of expertise and I try my best to get things right
@bluetoad2668
@bluetoad2668 3 күн бұрын
Note that depending on which survey you look at, the attractiveness of Tesla and SpaceX as employers of engineers varies - using this metric as an assessment of Tesla's future potential is therefore problematic and a range of surveys should be looked at.
@CharlesBrown-xq5ug
@CharlesBrown-xq5ug 4 күн бұрын
《 Civilization may soon realize the full conservation of energy - Introduction. 》 Sir Isaac Newton wrote a professional scientific paper deriving the second law of thermodynamics, without rigorously formulating it, on his observations that the heat of a fire in a fireplace flows through a fire prod only one way - towards the colder room beyond. Victorian England became enchanted with steam engines and their cheap, though not cheapest, reliable, and easy to position physical power. Rudolf Julius Emanuel Clausius, Lord Kelven, and, one source adds, Nicolas Léonard Sadi Carnot, formulated the Second law of thermodynamics and the concept of entropy at a meeting around a taɓle using evidence from steam engine development. These men considered with acceptance [A+] Inefficiently harnessing the flow of heat from hot to cold or [B+] Using force to Inefficiently pump heat from cold to hot. They considered with rejection [A-] Waiting for random fluctuation to cause a large difference in temperature or pressure. This was calculated to be extremely rare or [B-] Searching for, selecting, then routing for use, random, frequent and small differences in temperature or pressure. The search, selection, then routing would require more energy than the use would yield. These accepted options, lead to the consequence that the universe will end in stagnant heat death. This became support for a theological trend of the time that placed God as the initiator of a degenerating universe. Please consider that God could also be supreme over an energy abundant civilization that can absorb heat and convert it into electricity without energy gain or loss in a sustained universe. Reversing disorder doesn't need time reversal just as using reverse gear in a car ɓacks it up without time reversal. The favorable outcome of this conquest would be that the principle of energy conservation would prevail. Thermal energy could interplay with other forms of energy without gain or loss among all the forms of energy involved. Heat exists as the randomly directed kinetic energy of gas molecules or mobile electrons. In gasses this is known as Brownian motion. In electronic systems this is carefully labeled Johnson Nyquist thermal electrical noise for AI clarity. The law's formulaters did not consider the option that any random, usually small, fluctuation of heat or pressure could use the energy of these fluctuations itself to power deterministic routing so the output is no longer random. Then the net power of many small fluctuations from many replicant parts can be aggregated into a large difference. Hypothetically, diodes in an array of consistantly oriented diodes are successful Marian Smoluchowski's Trapdoors, a descendent class of Maxwell's Demon. Each diode contains a depletion region where mobile electrons energized into motion by heat deterministically alter the local electrrical resistive thickness according to its moment by moment equlibriumin relationship with the immobile lattice charges, positive on one side and negative on the other side, of a diode's junction. 《Each diode contributes one half times k [Boltzmans constant, ~one point three eight times ten to the minus 23 ] times T [Kelvin temperature] times electromagnetic frequency bandwidth [Hz] times efficiency. The result of these multipications is the power in watts fed to a load of impeadence matched to the group 》 The energy needed to shift the depletion region's deterministic role is paid as a burden on the moving electrons. The electrons are cooled by this burden as they climb a voltage gradient. Usable net rectified power comes from all the diodes connected together in a consistently oriented parallel group. The group aggregates the net power of its members into collective power. Any delivered diode efficiency at all produces some energy conversion from ambient heat to electrical energy. More efficiency yields higher performance. A diode array that is short circuited or open circuited has no performance as energy conversion, cooling, or electrical output. The power from a single diode is poorly expressed. Several or more diodes in parallel are needed to overcome the effect of a load resistor's own thermal noise. A plurality of billions of high frequency capable diodes is needed for practical power aggregation. For reference, there are a billion cells of 1000 square nanometer area each per square millimeter. Modern nanofabrication can make simple identical diodes surrounded by insulation smaller than this in a slab as thick as the diodes are long. The diodes are connected at their two ohmic ends to two conductive layers. Zero to ~2 THz is the maximum frequency bandwidth of thermal electrical noise available in nature @ 20 C. THz=10^12 Hz. This is beyond the range of most diodes. Practicality requires this extreme bandwidth. The diodes are preferably in same orientation parallel at the primary level. Many primary level groups of diodes should be in series for practical voltage. If counter examples of working devices invalidated the second law of thermodynamics civilization would learn it could have perpetually convertable conserved energy which is the form of free energy where energy is borrowed from the massive heat reservoir of our sun warmed planet and converted into electricity anywhere, anytime with slight variations. Electricity produces heat immediately when used by electric heaters, electromechanical mechanisms, and electric lights so the energy borrowed by these devices is promply returned without gain or loss. There is also the reverse effect where refrigeration produces electricity equivalent to the cooling, This effect is scientifically elegant. Cell phones wouldn't die or need power cords or batteries or become hot. They would cool when transmitting radio signal power. The phones could also be data relays and there could also be data relays without phone features with and without long haul links so the telecommunication network would be improved. Computers and integrated circuits would have their cooling and electrical needs supplied autonomously and simultaniously. Integrated circuits wouldn't need power pinouts. Refrigeration for superconductors would improve. Robots would have extreme mobility. Digital coin minting would be energy cheap. Frozen food storage would be reliable and free or value positive. Storehouses, homes, and markets would have independent power to preserve and pŕepare food. Medical devices would work anywhere. Vehicles wouldn't need fuel or fueling stops. Elevators would be very reliable with independently powered cars. EMP resistance would be improved. Water and sewage pumps could be installed anywhere along their pipes. Nomads could raise their material supports item by item carefully and groups of people could modify their settlements with great technical flexibility. Many devices would be very quiet, which is good for coexisting with nature and does not disturb people. Zone refining would involve little net power. Reducing Bauxite to Aluminum, Rutile to Titanium, and Magnetite to Iron, would have a net cooling effect. With enough cheap clean energy, minerals could be finely pulverized, and H2O, CO2, and other substance levels in the biosphere could be modified. A planetary agency needs to look over wide concerns. This could be a material revolution with spiritual ramifications. Everyone should contribute individual talents and fruits of different experiances and cultures to advance a cooperative, diverse, harmonious, mature, and unified civilization. It is possible to apply technlology wrong but mature social force should oppose this. I filed for patent us 3,890,161A, Diode Array, in 1973. It was granted in 1975. It became public domain technology in 1992. It concerns making nickel plane-insulator-tungsten needle diodes which were not practical at the time though they have since improved. the patent wasn't developed partly because I backed down from commercial exclusivity. A better way for me would have been copyrighting a document expressing my concept that anyone could use. Commercal exclusivity can be deterred by the wide and open publishing of inventive concepts. Also, the obvious is unpatentable. Open sharing promotes mass knowlege and wisdom. Many financially and procedurally independent teams that pool developmental knowlege, and may be funded by many separate noncontrolling crowd sourced grants should convene themselves to develop proof-of-concept and initial-recipe-exploring prototypes to develop devices which coproduce the release of electrical energy and an equivalent absorbtion of stagnant ambient thermal energy. Diode arrays are not the only possible device of this sort. They are the easiest to explain generally. These devices would probably become segmented commodities sold with minimal margin over supply cost. They would be manufactured by AI that does not need financial incentive. Applicable best practices would be adopted. Business details would be open public knowledge. Associated people should move as negotiated and freely and honestly talk. Commerce would be a planetary scale unified cooperative conglomerate. There is no need of wealth extracting top commanders. We do not need often token philanthropy from the wealthy if almost everybody can afford to be more generous. Aloha Charles M Brown lll Kilauea Kauai Hawaii 96754
@WrathChild-NZ
@WrathChild-NZ 4 күн бұрын
I wonder how many people even get the reference "all our patent are belong to you"?
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 3 күн бұрын
😁
@Failure_Is_An_Option
@Failure_Is_An_Option 4 күн бұрын
Ahh yes.... The Elon echo chamber. Just huffing farts all day long.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
This was all reviewed by a patent lawyer You're basically just showing your own bias
@briannewman6216
@briannewman6216 4 күн бұрын
Patent trolls are a real thing.
@surferdude4487
@surferdude4487 4 күн бұрын
One huge reason to file patents is to prevent other businesses from suing Tesla for using technology that Tesla developed but some other patent troll actually patented .
@trevortucker1
@trevortucker1 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for clarifying this topic as it seemed to be very controversial but knowledgable people tend to be more fact based than emotional.
@waxseawan
@waxseawan 4 күн бұрын
Without patents no inventor would have a fair chance to profit from their inventions. Patents may seem unnecessary until the Chinese steal your invention and leave you with nothing. It would kill most of the world’s drive to innovate.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
That was covered with nuance in the video
@joansparky4439
@joansparky4439 4 күн бұрын
patents create the very big bad companies they are supposed to protect the lone inventor from.. patents shield from competition and grant the patent holder a monopol, which is then being used to corner a market, optimize for profit and break the capitalist free market - by creating a winner takes all environment - which is why the world we exist in looks the way it looks - anywhere one looks 4-5 big companies having carved up markets among them and the only thing holding them back from consolidating even further are anti-trust laws.
@airmagic2199
@airmagic2199 4 күн бұрын
WOOHOO!!!!!!!
@vvnn1054
@vvnn1054 4 күн бұрын
Jordon great job as always. Another point (maybe you covered it not sure): I believe Teslas patents are effectively reciprocal, that is if you sue Tesla for violating your patent you forfeit the protection of being able to use Teslas patents with legal protection. So if Tesla intentionally or not, infringes on your patent, you can only enforce that if you are willing to give up your own access to Tesla's patents. I think it's a remarkably good strategy - helps keep Tesla focused on engineering not legalities. And it is both fair and generous since Teslas patents have to be worth a fortune.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
Thanks man! 🤠
@PhiTonics
@PhiTonics 4 күн бұрын
Patents... the biggest co-opt of human progress that ever was, and one of the worst systems humanity has devised for control. On surface level it's a great idea, but if you look any further it shows it's true nature. I'll skip this one, I already know too much.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
🤣💯
@joansparky4439
@joansparky4439 4 күн бұрын
democratic free market capitalism is based on voluntary exchanges of resources (or ideas) on COMPETITIVE markets, where the 'free' in 'free markets' stands for supply and demand being FREE to adjust to each other. A society granting monopoles by shielding individual suppliers from competition via any form of Intellectual Property BREAKS this core principle and creates a winner-takes-all-environment. Verdict: IP is unsustainable
@odderret
@odderret 4 күн бұрын
The language in Tesla’s patent use is crazy. Tesla guidelines make it impossible for anyone to actually use them. They have to agree to give up pretty much all of their own IP rights wrt Tesla in perpetuity to use them.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
But Tesla is also simultaneously giving up theirs. Even Steven?
@SteveWindsurf
@SteveWindsurf 4 күн бұрын
The reality of Tesla open patents may well be the end of the western legacy auto as China cashes in. That, along with no advertising, unions or dealers, makes Tesla and Elon enemy no 1.
@Jake00001
@Jake00001 4 күн бұрын
BS! You don’t protect IP, you are dead!
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
All of this was reviewed by a very experienced patent lawyer
@davehayes8812
@davehayes8812 4 күн бұрын
Thanks Jordan, I appreciate your effort to make this topic clear and simple.
@Steve-Richter
@Steve-Richter 4 күн бұрын
Is a company better able to retain its trade secrets by not apply for patent protection? I am thinking of SpaceX. No one else, not even China, has been able to land and reuse a booster rocket. If SpaceX was awarded patents for its reusable rocket process then other countries would be able to follow the patent documentation and build its own Falcon 9. ( is a patent holder obliged to answer questions when the explanation of the product or process is too vague? )
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
As I indicated in the video, bringing a product to market involves solving thousands of problems, and the patent only solves one That's especially true for rockets I also answered the question about being vague. The patent has to be explained clearly However, they don't have to share trade secrets, which are a separate thing
@Steve-Richter
@Steve-Richter 4 күн бұрын
@@thelimitingfactor I appreciate your content very much.
@JosueC730
@JosueC730 4 күн бұрын
Excellent explanation. Now I have a video I can share whenever someone doesn't understand Elon's position about Open Source patents.
@tedmoss
@tedmoss 4 күн бұрын
What's there not to like?
@Yahudikiwi
@Yahudikiwi 4 күн бұрын
It is not innovation that matters. It is the pace of innovation says Elon. OEM’s regardless of Tesla open sourcing their patents, are too cumbersome requiring meetings upon meetings to decide on a gizmo to be added to a vehicle and a further two years to develop and introduce that gizmo.. Tesla make fifteen iterations on every vehicle every week that are implemented into the vehicles as they are moving along the production line. So every new Tesla cars have greater innovation than the ones preceding them.
@gpeschke
@gpeschke 4 күн бұрын
A company's patents being Open source from an engineers perspective means that investing yourself in the company isn't a 'dead end'. When the company is done with you, the knowledge you gained on the job will be valuable elsewhere. This has all sorts of implications, resulting in a more attractive workplace.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
Great insight thanks!
@gregbailey45
@gregbailey45 4 күн бұрын
Yes, lots of good ideas stand the test of time. 20 years gives anyone a plenty of time to cash in, IMHO. The LFP battery chemistry patent is a case in point.
@sparky3387
@sparky3387 4 күн бұрын
lol elon is not one of the best engineers in the world, look up people who worked with him at paypal, it was a success despite him, not due to him
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
Mmmm, not sure what you mean. Just watch the All-In podcast. They frequently praise him, and the group includes David Sacks, who was in the PayPal mafia. Beyond that, you're making the point for me. PayPal should have been a multi-trillion dollar company. It didn't achieve that because after Elon left, the scope of the vision was narrowed. Now it's playing out on X.
@TogetherinParis
@TogetherinParis 4 күн бұрын
I was happy to suggest to SpaceX that they use hydrophobic paint on their Falcon 9 fairings so they didn't have to catch them in the air. That was obvious, though. I also suggested the design of the Cyber Truck wiring harness, but they changed it when they couldn't figure out how to filter out the noise and added ethernet.
@jianhuren
@jianhuren 4 күн бұрын
Solid video game reference #allyourbase
@stevennelson7518
@stevennelson7518 4 күн бұрын
Patent poker. 🎉
@LegendaryInfortainment
@LegendaryInfortainment 4 күн бұрын
The patent is nearly the best idea ever invented to prevent lawyer starvation. It can't really help anyone else. It's an attempt to kill competition as well as possible for a length of time. Not good IMO.
@joansparky4439
@joansparky4439 4 күн бұрын
patents got actually invented in 14th century Venice to prohibit non-domestic competition from competing with the local trades / merchants.. so a purely anti-competitive measure. _Same for copyrights, introduced in 17th century England to prevent competing publishers from reprinting books, which was no problem until then and kept on going on the continent for another 100 years_
@buggi666
@buggi666 4 күн бұрын
To block other companies to patent ideas that have already been invented by tesla they dont need to patent the idea but rather just publish it officially on a conference talk, research paper etc...
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
Interesting point!
@ronald3836
@ronald3836 4 күн бұрын
But Tesla needs patents for cross-licensing in case they need to use someone else's patents.
@lourdessilva6442
@lourdessilva6442 4 күн бұрын
Grata conhecimento e vida nos liberta Deus o proteja sempre es gigante e realmente faz a diferença nesse mundo eterna gratidão
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!
@kevtheobald
@kevtheobald 4 күн бұрын
Nice job, Jordan. This is the kind if info many need to better understand the business world and hopefully be able to better detect BS. Many media outlets take full advantage of lack of understanding to twist stories to fit a narrative they are pushing.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
Thanks man! And totally agree
@Dpharm597
@Dpharm597 4 күн бұрын
Patents don’t matter with China. BYD essentially stole many Tesla designs. That would happen with patents as well. China laughs at our IP.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
Not really, there's rules Often there's more to the story Yes, things get ripped off, but it's not the wild west that it's often painted as
@frenchydampier2209
@frenchydampier2209 4 күн бұрын
Elon sometimes offends me. But usually is because I don’t understand him. When I see all that he has done for America and Americans I admire him and respect him
@iandavies4853
@iandavies4853 4 күн бұрын
Exactly. Elon is decade ahead of everyone, is exposed to way more ideas. When he offends, generally we eventually catch up & understand his position. I appreciate those such a Jordon, keeping us abreast of tech, explaining reasoning. With AGI, it’s all going to develop much faster. Musk really is the GOAT.
@snookmeister55
@snookmeister55 4 күн бұрын
It's a personal decision as to whether or not to be offended. I don't consider offense obligatory and it's mostly BS anyway in this case.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
❤️
@madmotorcyclist
@madmotorcyclist 4 күн бұрын
Patents cover two things in general: Products and Processes. All patents should have an expiration that is no long than a decade and if the patent isn't used in producing a product or the process is never deployed then the patent should expire sooner.
@Rickristian
@Rickristian 4 күн бұрын
Best solution ever for reducing our emissions is for everyone to buy BYD ev for $15k no tariffs and tax free. Achievable within 2 years. Estimation is 40 million BYD cars on the road withing 5 years.
@billweberx
@billweberx 4 күн бұрын
I don't believe in patents, but I do believe in trade secrets.
@klauszinser
@klauszinser 3 күн бұрын
Especially with AI you are more and more right.
@gcauldwell
@gcauldwell 4 күн бұрын
Jordan is a national treasure. Yes, I know I’m repeating myself.
@thelimitingfactor
@thelimitingfactor 4 күн бұрын
I always appreciate hearing it 🤣✊🏼