Congrats on the new gear! Thanks for checking out the video! If you haven’t would suggest considering joining the AVS Forum DFW group. Someone in the group is putting a get together later this month to showcase his Trinnov and the waveforming capabilities in Ft Worth.

Thanks for checking out the video. The JTRs were certainly impressive.

Yeah, I got similar comments from others. Unfortunately that wasn't an option for my space but hopefully this can be referenced for others on what NOT to do. I will say that they do get to about 80-90 dbs but unfortunately the rest of the system is hitting 100dbs or more by that point.

@@antoniiocaluso1071 thanks for the feedback and yeah, definitely looking to do in-ceiling speakers but at least it was a fun project to try out.

@@neilhutchison222 sorry to hear that, I didn’t notice muddiness from them and actually thought they were a little brighter with more low end when compared to my 1961 towers. Do you notice the muddiness when running with all speakers, when only running those two (2 ch stereo), lower volume, or higher volume? Do you have a sub and if you do what is the crossover set to? One other thing to check is to have the volume low enough that you can put your ears up to the speaker and just confirm that all the drivers are working.

Totally ok, I do believe the best option is to hear speakers in person. Which still may not yield a different result for you but I'm happy to include the recordings anyway. Which ones did you prefer over the JTRs from the recordings? Arendal, Revel or Dynaudio?

Arendal and Revel sounded better IMO. I maybe biased as I feel like JTR has been giving compression drivers a bad name. That maybe the JBL synthesis fan coming out in me

@@Supergoldencris I haven't heard a JBL synthesis system yet but heard good things. Closest is my 2015 Venza has a JBL Synthesis sound system and has been the best factory stereo I've had.

I have one and live in plano. Come on by

That would be cool and plano isn't too far from me. By chance are you in the DFW Home Theater group on AVS Forum?

Oh man, that is too bad that there isn't another ending.

Yeaa but was a great game 👌🏻

@@wanpynskhempyngrope9263 Yes it was!

Yes, she really is!

Thanks for checking out the video! Yes, this was a very well written game for sure.

Thanks for checking out the video. Yeah, the owner of the Focals and myself both couldn't really find too much of a difference between them. As you mention the larger 1723 towers would be more in line but will say that Arendal has mentioned that they are introducing an even more advanced line (the 1528) hopefully by the beginning of the year. They will be more than the 1723 but I'm guessing they will still be less than the Focals and the look of them will seem to be different too. If you have time to wait, that new line may be something to wait for as well.

@@RandomDistractionsYT I will definitely wait. Thanks for the valuable information. Wishing you my best.

Hi there! I understood it as the distance from each measurement being 60cm so my second measurement is 60cm away from the first one vs how close it is to the back of the sofa. To your question though, I haven't noticed any issues when running it this way and the way I look at it is that is where my ears would be so if any adjustments need to be made based on where the back of the sofa is then it would do calculations to account for that as I wouldn't sit 60cm away from my sofa.

That should be a safe assumption, the atmos speakers don't need a lot. The Emotiva BasX A5 is a good one, I've also used the Buckeye amps and they have done well for me too. Thanks for checking out the video!

Congrats on the new gear! Should be a good combo. Let me know what you think when you got it set up.

Thanks for checking out the video! The Polk L800 is a good looking tower, hopefully you'll be able to upgrade soon.

You know I don't know that it was. I had the opportunity to hear another person's home theater that was using the nc502s and it sounded great! I haven't done a direct comparison so can't say 100% but after listening to that other theater I didn't feel like anything was lacking. Even Dylan at Buckeyes said that they are very comparable.

@@RandomDistractionsYT It feels like I’m missing out on “cleaner sound” but I’m insure if I’ll even be able to hear the difference

@@Sly_Kaw Oh, I see. What are you currently using to power your system? If it was like me when I was using my receiver and went to just the inexpensive Emotiva BasX series I noticed a difference in how "clean" it sounded at louder or reference levels. When I switched to the Buckeyes the "clean" sound was at reference levels and at more than my ears could handle. Another way to put it is that around 75-80dBs averages my receiver didn't sound great but didn't realize it until I switched to external amps. Then with the Buckeyes 90dBs still sounded great but it was just too loud.

@@RandomDistractionsYT I have an mrx 1140 in my old home but have currently moved and am building a new system. I previously used the internal anthem amp to power a lcr of paradigm premier towers. My preamp is going to be a marantz cinema 70s and the left and right channel are kef r3 metas

Before my 1140 I had an entry-level Pioneer and noticed the difference in what the Anthem could do for power. I actually did a video where I went back to see how the receiver alone would do against using the Buckeyes and have to say that I was impressed by what the Anthem could do but the amps still won out when it came to higher levels. Heard good things about the Marantz Cinema line. I do see that it's rated at 50 watts x 2 at 8ohms and your KEF's are rated 15-180 watts at 4ohms which are harder to drive. Like I mentioned earlier though it may depend on how loud you listen so it may not be an issue. The one other thing I will say when I switched to an amp was just how much more I could hear from the speakers even at lower levels so it's not just about how loud they can get but how much more detail comes through when there is more power. Part of the fun is trying to find that magical combination in this hobby, it's just unfortunate that it gets pricey trying to do that! 😀

Yes, there is just one per channel and as for the cables I used the Monoprice XLR male to RCA male. I heard that there were some that were causing some noise issues but they later fixed them however my cables didn't cause any issues.

Unfortunately, I haven't heard them myself but they look impressive. Hopefully I get a chance to listen to them and see how they compare.

Same here, I wasn't too happy with it but I later found out that there is an alternate ending which I did see somewhere else on KZbin and it seemed a lot better. If you haven't seen that, I would suggest to search it and check it out!

Sorry for the late reply, the speaker cable I use is nothing fancy. I look for 12 AWG oxygen free so I've used cable from Monoprice and some from Amazon called InstallGear. I then use some Alex Tech wire loom to cover it up. As for the XLR to RCA cables I used the Monoprice XLR male to RCA male. I heard that there were some that were causing some noise issues but they later fixed them however my cables didn't cause any issues.

Nothing wrong with that, thanks for checking out the video!

Thanks for checking out the video, maybe I'll have to add unboxing to my resume!

To your point, it probably would have but unfortunately, I don't have a dedicated space so this would have been in our living room which only has 8 ft ceilings but more importantly I would have been killed by my wife. 🔪😵

@@RandomDistractionsYT They could have been done tastefully, say by putting LED strips on the ceiling then hanging the suspended panels. I think there is a name for that kind of lighting I'm not sure of the name though. Tray lighting maybe?

Personally I think that would be cool (I like the idea of the LEDs) but my wife already doesn't like the fact that I have speakers in the living room in the first place so by being able to keep them hidden I was able to get away with it. I will say though I don't feel too much of a loss in the sound and everyone that has come to my house and they hear them are impressed. It's also kind of cool to just have the sound coming from the ceiling.

I do hear and somehow missed that. Unfortunately, I delete my files after a bit so don't have a way to fix it, which stinks. Sorry about that!

It's pretty darn bad with ANC off.

Thanks for checking out the video. Unfortunately, I only had about an hour of listening time with the JBLs so glad to have an owner provide some additional comments about them.

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No but I only use 3 of them. One from my Xbox, one that goes to the TV, and a spare one that I use with my laptop when doing tests.

Heard good things about the Paradigms, unfortunately I didn't know anyone that owned them, otherwise would have been glad to compare them.

Yeah, would totally suggest them for music. I use my Anthem MRX1140 and with the Arendals I'm constantly trying to find time to listen to some music with them.

Unfortunately that's beyond my scope but did a google search and FPGraphTracer came up. Not sure if that is what would help but hopefully somebody else here sees your comment to provide some feedback. I just use REW to get some basic measurements and know that there is probably still a whole lot more that can be done with REW.

Thanks for checking out the video. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with the term "static atmos mix". What does that mean?

@@RandomDistractionsYT not a dynamic mix. Not good atmos immersion

@@PIPERBOYWILLIAMS Ah, will have to look more into this, thanks for clarifying.

Thanks, I appreciate you checking out the video.

I know, right? I always wondered how much of a difference it really is between different sizes and prices and so really grateful that I had a chance to try that.

It was honestly really hard to distinguish which is why I was glad that I had the owner of the JBLs listening with me as well and he also couldn't tell much of a difference and thought the Arendals were a bit clearer and as for price, as I mention in the video you could go with the more expensive and even bigger Arendal 1723 series and still be under the JBLs.

​@@RandomDistractionsYTyou sure he hasn't got the 3600? The 3800 are dangerous!

​@@themafia3119i think the 1723 thx beats the 3800. I would prob sell my 3800 and buy them

@@chriss881000- How bout the 3800’s at $1398.00 each right now? That seems tough to beat.

Thats just crazy. I paid 6700$ for my 3800, and they will never go on sale

Visually they are a great looking speaker, the sound is really good, and the SDA function actually does make an audible difference. For the price though I would still go with the 1723 S and could actually even go with the bigger brother the 1723 and be under and get really darn close to that same sound.

I had the Revel 228be and JBL 4367 in the same room (I owned both at the same time) and I can assure you the JBL’s highs smoke the Revels. By themselves the revels are fine but next to the JBL they sound splashy and lacked separation. On the revel you could hear the high hat hit but on the JBL you could hear the ride fizzle out which was lost on the revel. One might think it is frequency response but the JBL is actually more rolled off. The compression driver is silly light, does not need to move much and has a massive magnet on it. It all just works out to a lot of control.

There are definitely a lot of bad sounding horn speakers out there that create that stereotype. Don't miss out if you get a chance to hear some good ones.

If you are able to listen to both in your space, that would tell you for sure which is better. In my case I went with a bigger center channel because I know that a lot of sound comes from the center channel so wanted to have something that could handle it well. I've been really happy with that choice and they are a great match to my 1961 towers. As another person mentioned though, if you have bookshelf speakers as your front speakers as well, having a bigger center may sound tonally different so having a matching bookshelf for the center would sound more cohesive. That is why I mentioned that if you are able to listen to both, that would be the best way to know for sure. Best of luck with your decision.

Definitely agree, listening in person for sure is the best way to experience that and any speakers really especially in your own listening space as that will affect it as well.

Definitely agree, listening in person for sure is the best way to experience that and any speakers really.

Thanks for sharing that @mikescott5440. I will say that I'm actually quite impressed at how well the 1723 S center matches my 1961 towers. I actually did a double-take when I was running room correction and it was going from the left to center to right as it felt like the sound was just moving from one end to the other but not that it was going from one speaker to another. That is of course with towers, that are much bigger, so do feel like your point of doing all bookshelf speakers, including a center, would be a better match when going that route.

Thanks for checking out the video and sorry for the delayed response. Life gets busy some times. For the first question, I placed them where I normally have my towers which is about 17 inches from the wall and that worked for the monitors as well. For the second question, yeah I do think that the basx5 would be a good pairing for them. I was running a 1723 S center, 1961 towers and 1961 monitors with mine and it sounded good. I only upgraded because I wanted to push them further but don't do that all the time.

@@RandomDistractionsYTno worries, I completely understand! Thank you for circling back to comment and providing your thoughts, I really appreciate it! Looking forward to pairing the speakers with the emotiva, and thanks for sharing more details about your setup!

Hmm, well you can have two of them on the same panel with one being left and the other right. I'm just not sure how distinctive the sound would be. It would probably depend on how far apart the exciters are from each other and how loud they are being played at. Thanks for checking out the video and subscribing!

Thanks for watching the video! I still use them to this day and they are still one of the best additions to my setup and in my opinion a great choice.

Yes the 1723s is quite a looker. That may just be from trying to hear it over KZbin. The smaller one doesn't have as much bass so it probably does sound a little clearer in the recording. In person the 1723s has more presence while still being clear.

Thanks for checking it out and in response to your question, no, I didn't hear any his or hum from the amp.

Thanks for checking out the video and good point!

Thanks for checking out the video I did some sound demos starting at 10:55 of The Batman, then John Wick and then John Wick but with the bed layer off. I also have another video where I added more exciters that has a demo song with just the exciters if you want to check that out as well. Thanks! kzbin.info/www/bejne/foiTnISarb9lp80si=JIg1xk4YJFQ9Gl8e

@@RandomDistractionsYT You never showed the speakers though. That's what most people are looking for in these DML videos, the finished product!

@@PunxsutawneyPhill Ahh, I see what you mean. I quickly showed them at the 7:06 mark but could have probably showed them a little longer. Sorry about that. Unfortunately, I'm going to be looking at replacing them if I can convince the wife for in-ceiling ones. On a side note, since you didn't see them does that mean I have another 6 weeks of winter? 😅

@@PunxsutawneyPhill Yeah, I was a little irritated by this too. It was only after looking at the comments that I saw the time marks to see the speakers mounted. And I agree... explanations are swell, but it could be done over the top of video showing the details of the install. We also need a sample of the sound in the room when done. Unless I missed it, which is possible because the important things were only flashed on the screen for a split second. Good presenter, bad execution. He'll get better at this.

Thanks for checking out my videos! As for your question in my opinion I do think that it would make a great center. The only problems that you may run into is that Arendal is phasing out the 1961 series so currently only available through their outlet. Which is kind of good since they are discounted but I believe that they may still be sold as a pair so you may end up with an extra tower.

@@RandomDistractionsYT I’m able to get them as singles. I figured if I like the sound enough I might get another tower and use that as left and right and then maybe go to the 1723s center. Or maybe get another third tower. I did have a question, how would you compare the 1723 s to the 1961 tower. I’ve heard reviewers say they sound very similar and other say it’s a huge jump. Thanks for your help

@@roelcorral7720 Oh cool, if you can get them as singles that would be a great setup. I use the 1723 S center myself in my setup with the 1961 towers and it's a great option as to me it's basically like having a 1961 tower in the middle. In regards to your question of the 1723 S towers to the 1961s. I did notice a difference and would say that there is a big difference when ported for sure in the bass. Because I use subwoofers for the low end I don't feel like I'm missing out though. The 1723 S have a little more heft to the sound since they are more sensitive and are actually brighter as well. I did a comparison video if you would like to see some of the measurement differences in my room: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raG7dn6PlJiKsNE. For me though I'm happy with the smaller size of the 1961s since I don't have a dedicated space so they felt better in my space.

@@RandomDistractionsYT Awesome thanks for the help. I just pulled the trigger on a single 1961 tower. I will report back when I get it. I hope they ship fast, I’m in Texas. I guess the only concern was clarity/detail on the 1961 vs 1723 but you seem to be happy with the 1961 and I think I will too!

@@roelcorral7720 Yeah, let me know what you think. I'm in Texas as well, DFW area, and they shipped pretty quick to me before.

Thanks and appreciate you checking out the video and subbing!

Thanks for pointing that out, that is quite a difference!