i always hated when in canyon against recluse, enemy just rush them and wipe the floor

eat the t1 lab also afus is nearly 30% more efficient also build turrets are the least expensive source of bp also you can eat your t2 lab for a quick boost of metal and build it back later

Thought you might be interested in knowing a Halberd is a medieval weapon, a type of polearm. If a spear is a dagger on a (long!) stick, a halberd is both an axe and a dagger on a stick

bulls are really meant to be rushed, imho. I don't like them as an eco transition. This is because they firmly outrange T1 units and defenses, but not t2 units or defenses, and they are a fast unit which does not require spotting to fire at max range. This means they do well before tick spam comes out, and can basically be used as a mini Tzar (worse AOE, worse range, but has enough speed and range to firmly bully basically all T1 comps. (it can't brawl with stouts, but stouts can't concentrate force as well as bulls, are vulnerable to AOE, and have worse range by a fair bit and are not much faster). They also are very powerful early economic raiders if not facing shurikens, as they are fast enough and have the range to beat most stuff that will chase them, and they still do quite respectable DPS. but as you noted, they do get firmly outranged by a lot of stuff, and their speed is of little use on crowded battlefields. And the vision doesn't matter once tick spam starts up.

You should of reclaimed your t1 lab

Edit: hehe, you covered that later in the video. Always, always, keep your advance energy converters on the other side of the base from your Afus. Because energy converters explode with 10-20 times less damage and then do explosive damage to Afus. If you lose the converters at least you wont lose your afus.

Always, always, keep your advance energy converters on the other side of the base from your Afus. Because energy converters explode with 10-20 times less damage and then do explosive damage to Afus. If you lose the converters at least you wont lose your afus.

Never add starlights into the build que if you are also spending 4k energy to build eco as starlights not only take a ton of energy to build but also to fire.

Your bulls got annihilated by Sheldon because you stacked them up onto each other and let the Sheldon AOE shot damage several at the same time. Learn to hold ctrl when giving a move command so they all move as one forward instead to a central point and stack themselves up.

Your bulls got annihilated by Sheldon because you stacked them up onto each other and let the Sheldon AOE shot damage several at the same time. Learn to hold ctrl when giving a move command so they all move as one forward instead to a central point and stack themselves up.

Ok, so definitely don't build T2 converters AND T2 energy generators at the same time. They both require stupendous amounts of energy to construct so alternate between them. And build more energy storage

Do try to keep an eye on your eco sliders. At one point in the first few minutes you had almost a double/triple income of energy then usage. At such times switch from wind turbines to energy converters construction. (7 minutes in game)

Afus is overrated. So many matches are lost because people think they need afuses instead of units.

Beautiful to see how your eco and macro scaling getting together in just a few weeks. Proper usage and positioning of nano turrets, decent tempo. Now forgive me for the next few harsh words: these are the basics. 1v1's and PvE are the places where you can test how quickly you can switch focus from macro commands, unit distribution and micro, economy building, production decisions/tech switches/reclaims/revives. Team games allow you to have access to build orders/tactics that wouldn't be accessible in a solo environment. For example 2 to 4 players can all get together to build an early nuke (at 10 minutes) which can catch the enemy eco or air off guard, you can get together to rush a dozen of early Marauders or shivas (Maras are preferred) at 8 minutes to catch map borders offguard. Moves like these are the true game makers of teamgames, and i'm looking forward to see you discover them for yourself aswel. Keep it up, nice vids, thank you for your contribution to the BAR community! ps. One more thing, you can reclaim your early t2 lab after you'we produced your t2 constructors and an 'engineer' or a 'council' which units have access to blueprints to other t2 units with which (on repeat) you can contribute to the frontilne while using your t2 lab metal to produce them, or use that to get your eco up quicker (just remember to build some metal storages before reclaiming your lab, avoiding metal loss from overflow.)

If you go vs vehicles or T3 with bots, you have only one option as armada: spy bots and their EMP strike when you self-destruct them, along with a line of Sharpshooter bots, clocked, covered with bots that give vision and scrambled radar, with a wall of welders in front. That lineup can deal with anything short of a Cortex top T3 bot.

The figter wall moving across the enemy line was a scouting action so that he knowns where is what and which targets to go for with the calamity.

As for your own plays... You definitely neglected your base eco for a very long time. And you also took like 7-8 minutes to even build all your metal extractors up to the front line. That means your income was way lower than it should have been. Don't invest in 10 construction bots, but move onto turrets as mechanically they operate much better then bot cons who lose valuable time moving around and turning, ans shuffling, and staggering into each other.

Hi, when it comes to coming back into a game once you get blown up it is exactly as you mentioned about how much donated stuff you get from your allies. If one players sends 3 T2 cons, another a fusion, another some rez bots, and other some metal and energy storage units the player who lost his base can be back to T2 level in as little as 2-3 minutes since he will only do eco and no units. But that is the point about teamwork. Yes, resigning after you lose is totally valid, and the worse thing you could do is build T1 mexes and start from 0 with a single Com as your allies could have had 6-10 more T2 metal extractors.

Do you keep the OS of the players hidden on purpose?

Sweden. Finland is blue on white. Sweden is yellow on blue. the twin guard is terrible. It looks like it has good range, but that's only the top laser. the bottom laser is half it's dps, and it has less range by quite a bit than a light laser tower. the beamer is good because it applies ALL it's dps at relatively good range, meaning you can meaningfully support one another. Unless you build your lasers like that guy defending canyon (touching one another, not recommended), when a twin guard fights, it basically fights alone. To counter fiends, land mines are amazing, as they die to one hit from a medium mine. Failing that, in T1, stouts are best, as they outrange them by a lot, and are almost as fast.

Hover con also allows to go directly to t2 vehicles or t2 naval factories....

The problem was that both of you had the wrong units. You should have had bots and your team mate next to your vehicles. Bots, especially slow ones like maces can't gurard a line, they can be offensive and pushing the enemy, but not guard a line. That is why you should have had maces and used the small area you had to defend to probe the flanks of the two players to either of your side.

the reason canyon is seen as a throwaway lane is because outside the canyon has way more mexes than inside. There are 14 inside canyon mexes for the pair to take (and one air mex), and more than 20 outside, depending on how you count (admittedly, one of the outside canyon mexes is pretty firmly on the canyon team's half of the map). The assumption being that a more skilled player will be able to leverage a stronger metal income to have a larger impact on the game, but also that if you have a force composed for open field battles, like outside the canyon, you will be much more suited to projecting force than if you have a canyon brawling composition. (given the middle lane terraom looks a lot more like canyon offense than canyon defense)

What's the reason for going with a metal heavy vehicle start on a spot that lets you have only 6 mexes? Why not start bots get cheap units and constructors and then transition into vehicles when you get T2 mexes or grab metal off the front line with rez bots your bot stat gives you?

One thing you might consider in this situation is building walls of dragon's teeth across the front of the canyon walls. Spiders can climb canyon walls, but they cannot pass dragon's teeth. You can also build dragon's teeth on extremely vertical surfaces. For under 150 metal, you can basically deny both of the outer 2 clifftops, and then the spiders must either grind through your dragon's teeth, or they must fight through the canyon, and while they are on the dragon's teeth, they can be flanked by a sortie. And if you do this, you don't obstruct passage in the canyons themselves, at all. Another fun trick is to just start airlifting tanks up to the canyon tops. If they can't control line of sight, and they can't really use their range, recluses are not good value for cost. Unfortunately, you can no longer carry a bull with a stork, but even so, on a clifftop, a fiend will beat a recluse, and they really cannot fire onto high ground from low ground as their rocket trajectory is absolutely terrible (basically, they fire their rockets slightly upwards, and then the rockets transition to almost a flat trajectory shortly after launch, meaning it's basically impossible to lob them onto anything you don't have direct line of sight to). (interestingly, this is also why their target ground is wildly inaccurate, it's because at the point of impact, the rocket trajectory is basically flat and extremely low altitude, so there is huge variance in where it could contact the ground). I think people massively overestimate the value of static units up on the clifftops, where they have line of sight issues, but massively underestimate the value of MOBILE units on the clifftops, where they have massive line of sight control.

The tip for putting the radar at the hil top is priceless. I forget to do that as canyon front but do it regularly for the canyon front when I am air.

The AIR player in the Blue team was horrible for letting his team get killed for several minutes without defending them.

I was actually your opposing geo player in the first game, IBuildUnits, and if you watch your sea opponent requests/receives their t2 con earlier than you do and gets a decent eco advantage from it. I'm also proud of teaming up with south sea around 16:00 to win that previously losing sea, this was a great game with good team work and a fun back and forth. To explain the lunkheads and why I built such an ineffective counter to your navy, they're a sea unit you can build outta a t3 gantry and I had a convenient t3 gantry that had been producing thors that I panic swapped to lunks after neonkat died on sea, I for sure should have went for a shipyard or hover lab or something sooner but I didn't want to take the time to move/rebuild all my build power. Also I'll add that winds are stupid op on this map, wind is too high.

Inflection point is the phrase your are searching for at 10:33 I think

Hey im the person you were fighting against, i love the glazing but i was still so new to sea, i dont think i even knew my opressors outranged my riptides back then, i just knew rez sub go brrrrr. ANd i remember you kickcing my ass with the subs,, i used the same start to come back the same way XD ALso i had like 20 corsairs and something happened to them on front i didnt know arty was so dangerous, and lost like 18 of them just before i found out you were back in water ,so i couldnt stop you XD

I've had full control of the sea before and then been surprised by a wall of 30 Halberds that just overwhelm and take out my whole naval presence (which I'd stopped investing into due to complacency). They can be brutal

Dont you think Halberd is a little bit overpowered for a “t1”? His hp is just bizarre.

Thank you for making BAR videos, having a calm and perceptive approach to what can be done, where one can improve. Looking forward to see more and more people checking this game out, now that uThermal got into it, previously Winter played it about a year ago or so. The third faction is coming up nicely, adjustments are being made to units. Looking forward to see the Hovers worked on at some point, to have them as a fully fledged way of starting/playing alongside of the already established possible openers (bots, vehicles, ships and planes) It is surely a slow burn for the more adult audience, who are into bigger scale team oriented RTS. i don't think i'we ever seen anything close to BAR, where we can have even 25v25 or even more players atst on a map. p.s.: I'm secretly wishing for more Co-Op options, but lucky for me 3rd parties are working on custom Raptors and Scavengers gamemodes, develloping interesting mutators for them to keep the difficulty and the exitement high. There is this entire PvE community, paralell to the more streamlined PvP gamemode in BAR.

Seaplanes, specifically torpedo gunships are useful against ducks and other water units, they can be considered tier 1.5, decent between 8 and 15 minutes, if you can protect them against the opposing fighters and other AA. Hovers could be good too, however they're generally undesireable due to theyr high cost and low performance. Maybe someday Hovers will be just as exellent of a starter as bots, vehicles, ships or planes but they need to be worked on, to balance the units out.

As Hermetics say: As above, so below... You made my day! Thank you sir!

how do i set a permanent control group?

Awesome commentary, easy to follow and still learned! I am beans at playing sea so this sort of content is wonderful.

Thx for making more BAR videos! But really, Glitters front with 10+ mex is a vehicle must.

Try to keep the maces out of balling up - wolverines and tanks have aoe. Your main advantage with bots is maneuverability and numbers which help you get the flank bonus which is needed to overcome vehicles. Right Click Drag lets you draw a line your units will try to form up on as opposed to just right click. Also recommend trying out the controls for - Right Click to set Priority Target rather than Attack its a little tricky to get used to at first - but you might find it easier to focus on maneuvering your bots and right clicking an enemy to set their target without disrupting their movement.

This is an example where your opposing air went straight for t2 sacrificing t1 figs. You must scout your enemy for this. If they have no or few figs, you have to decide at that point to either punish them with a t1 air assault or try to catchup in eco. I prefer the air assault because assuming you are roughly equal in eco-ing up you can never catch up to someone who never planned for a t1 fight.

Great Video. Love the explanation of the thought progress. Especially because it is a more "normal" level of play. Replay casts of pros can be at times daunting and demoralizing. Still getting the hang of quickly teching and booming against ai in skirmish. Maybe you could comment on how exactly a t2 transition should look like/occur?

Keep pushing yourself and your build order from your spawn can have units over the other side of the map before they even reach the water. I’d focus more on pumping that economy too. You clearly have good tactics and control over your units though which helps - resources well looked after are resources well spent 😊

Hounds have a 2ndry fire mode 'Gauss' much more useful than the primary, would give it a try! LLts kinda useless after 5min, with anti swarm towers that's basically no defence, Heavy lazer, dragon claws and gauntlets all are good defence, some might say units > porc however a good defence means you can do stuff with your army rather than sitting on your lane which seem to do all battle. Speaking of army, plz try making 10 grunts to every thug you make, will find you have a lot more options and can raid etc

Maces DID get a recent buff. 11% more health. Thugs also got another 100 health, but got a nerf to build time so they don't repair faster, they just have more total health. As for how to defend against vehicles? I think you build the wrong kind of porc, lacked scouting, didn't invest enough into APM free repair, and frankly, had too many maces. Maces are at their best when retreating. they get much more accurate against advancing enemies, but the range advantage against tanks gets a lot larger. You can trade very profitably against stouts as long as you are walking backwards. You get limited value out of more maces, as AOE starts becoming a real problem for them like any other unit. You want a front line you can back away through and not feel like it dies immediately for no value. IE: not really light laser towers. Dragon's maws (I don't know claws, maybe they just have too bad single target dps) help fill the gap, because it's radar immune, and because it can zone artillery away from your build power while being highly artillery resistant. This is what you maneuver in front of and behind in T1. What you want though is plasma artillery. Because vehicles repair so well, they really want repair power, and they don't get lazarus, so they build con turrets. You can one shot these with plasma artillery in high arc mode. This drastically helps you defend against vehicle pressure, while also punishing wolverines. Just remember the rules. at least 300 units behind the front line, so it doesn't get spotted and you can't artillery it down without the front line brawling with you first. A plasma artillery can just one shot all the mexes, take out all the build power it can find, and then slowly work down anything else it can hit. Also, you should have built way way more early ticks. I saw a ton of engages where not having vision cost you. The laser turret duels? ticks. you are wasting energy firing by radar there. The pawn probe? ticks should have done that, you wouldn't have lost any units. The next two engages, where you maces stumble into range of a LLT in one, and a dragon's claw in another? ticks. The allied team mate rushing in with rockets? he needed vision there. You could have provided it with a single tick. You should always have a tick in your production queue. Really, dismantling porc, you need to know what's there, or you take terrible engages. Basically every major battle I saw you fight, you started by stumbling within range of enemy porc. This is costly for you. it's one big part of why your maces melt so quickly (it's also that you have a 3 deep line against artillery). They can see as far as they can shoot, but that's not enough. You need to see as far as the ENEMY can shoot, which is over 400 units. Thug/mace can't handle that.

you shouldnt teach others what is must or not when you have wrong thoughts about things in game and also you are playing low elo games

Many mistakes were made but there is always room for improvement, best way to learn sea in my opinion is to watch higher os lobbies and see what they do and then adapt to ur playstyle. Good video tho :)

Great game my guy

You can add transport plane in this build - land in cove with commander faster, anty cheese option, more metal and ability to transport commander in case of hovers.

Pretty brave player, no llt and E storage on 4 winds O_o. I never make storage before 12 winds. If i have too much E early i put it into Air player to pump esencials faster. If you wanna have a consistent opening you can use tidals.

excellent basic guides, I feel like we are learning to play the game in tandem and having input of another noob is amazing. I have some great tips, shared without order, about improving at the game: Set Attack (Default hotkey S) makes your units prioritize an enemy if it is in range, but do not make the units do anything else. Great to snipe out commanders, just set the S on them and micro into range. If they can choose between targets, they will choose the Com. Also great to have your snipers avoid shooting at the spam hordes. Fight command (F) moves the unit forward only if there are no thing to kill in range. Great for slow, methodical pushes, with snipers or starlights. Cloaking the Com (K) automatically sets it as hold fire. You can wait the incoming push and, when in range, blast them with the D-Gun. This works even against experimentals, so even if you have no troops you can stop unexpected incursions by positioning your com properly. If you move cloaked you will spend a huge amount of energy. Also, because cloaked units only appear on the radar when moving, you will appear in the radar if in range! D gun can shoot real fast if you have the energy for it, but the Com is very frail. Patrol command (H) acts as a fight command, unless the unit is a constructor. If so, they will also reclaim and repair everything in range. I love putting my cons patrolling behind the fortifications of the frontline. For bombing runs you click attack command (A) and click and drag right mouse click. You can paint areas very easily. Check out the Metal/Energy proportion of the units/buildings. Everything that has buildpower costs a ton of Energy. Solar panels cost no Energy and T1 Energy converters cost no Metal, so if you are overflowing one and starving on the other you should use your BP accordingly. If you are overflowing energy, build E storage, E converters or Buildpower (con turrets). Laser defense is also quite E intensive. To mass reclaim, click E, hold ALT, click on the unit type to reclaim and drag an area. You can easily reclaim armies and wind turbines and solar panels like so. Reclaim is very useful and wastes NO metal. Unfinished buildings will slowly return you the metal inputted at no cost. More on reclaim, I see players losing a chunk of the base and becoming demoralized. If you have the build power you can recover very quickly, your own wrecks will pay for most. This does not apply if nuked. The avoid having rezbots all clumped together reclaiming, spread them out and THEN shift queue the reclaim area command. They will be assigned orders depending on the position. T2 mexes give you 4 times the metal and should be the first thing to level up once you have T2 cons. Alt+Num sets an automatic command group for the unit type, including all new units built. Is conserved across games. "º" as number deletes the assignation.