Food Plotting by Design
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3 ай бұрын
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@daveguttormson6315
@daveguttormson6315 46 минут бұрын
Sam, that stand is 100% gonna have to replaced soon. . If it's not now, it will become rickety/ rotten / noisy over time. I see ZERO reason to create cover around it as every deer in that area has grown up with it. It's part of their life. Love the way you got the zones layed out though..
@ScottJenkins-vq5gx
@ScottJenkins-vq5gx Сағат бұрын
Thanks for sharing Sam
@dennisisaacs8508
@dennisisaacs8508 11 сағат бұрын
Nicely done with all the stages of your plan coming together
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 5 сағат бұрын
Thanks Dennis. Yah it worked out very well
@jerryburns4237
@jerryburns4237 2 күн бұрын
Outstanding habitat my friend. Hard work!
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat Күн бұрын
I appreciate that Jerry! It was a lot of work but definitely rewarding to see the result
@rockarolla4756
@rockarolla4756 2 күн бұрын
I’ve never tried making a trail leading deer to shooting distance to my tree stand until watching this video. It really works!! I raked a trail in an area where deer are working to get to one of my clover kill plots with a scrape 30 yards from my tree stand and they follow it directly to the scrape before exiting to get to the clover. I’ve used scrapes before but never on a trail I made, wish I knew this info back in the 90’s lol. Thanks for sharing, keep on keeping on!
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 2 күн бұрын
@rockarolla4756 glad to hear it worked well for you! Yah this little detail work can make all the difference when it matters the most
@db7outdoors987
@db7outdoors987 4 күн бұрын
Another great video!
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 3 күн бұрын
Much appreciated!
@artbrennhofer8283
@artbrennhofer8283 4 күн бұрын
Great video Sam. I am wondering where you start when it comes to buckthorn. I was out trimming a couple of stands and then putting down some fertilizer on the food plots and noticed just how much buckthorn there is from a couple of years ago. Do you start by spraying back some of it and then going in and cutting and treating the bigger ones. i don't think I can win this battle with the buckthorn and still get everything else I want to do to make the land more huntable and hold a few more deer. Thanks again for the video.
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 3 күн бұрын
The battle always starts with seed trees. Focus on those to stop the bleeding. If it's really bad I'll start in the lighter areas first and get some easy wins and then move into the heavier areas once I get the lighter areas cleaned up. The quickest way for really bad infestations is to bring in the mulcher and then boom spray it when it sprouts back. There are cost share options for getting rid of it in most states. Talk to your DNR forester about that
@stevedenoyer5956
@stevedenoyer5956 4 күн бұрын
Looks great, lots of early successional growth. Nice stand setup too!
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 3 күн бұрын
Thanks Steve, I love this spot
@virgilholmes6688
@virgilholmes6688 4 күн бұрын
Great video showing the value of putting in the hard work and discussing your strategy. Looks like the structure of the cover would allow bucks to use it all season even when in velvet.
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 3 күн бұрын
Thanks Virgil and that's a great point! With the broken up cover I do believe they could use it during any season
@HabitatDave
@HabitatDave 4 күн бұрын
How are you able to so quickly identify buckthorn?
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 3 күн бұрын
Lots of woods time and lots of time killing it. It sticks out like a sore thumb to me now after years of eradicating it. If you struggle with identification know that it stays green long after the native trees have dropped their leaves. So if you see green in your woods after leaf drop that's not a good sign.
@StevenSmith-7t391
@StevenSmith-7t391 2 күн бұрын
Always enjoy your videos. I’ve got serious buckthorn issues that I am spraying for. To basal spray I’m using Tri 4 and diesel at 1:6 ratio. That’s a lot of Triclopyr! You use 5% Tri4 with water so just to be clear, that means a ratio of 1:20 Tri4:water? And it kills well. How much of the trunk are you covering?
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 2 күн бұрын
@StevenSmith-7t391 the 5% solution is when I foliar treat the small stuff. For basal bark I use my 25%triclopyr/75% diesel solution but I very much prefer cut stump to basal bark. I coat the bottom 18 inches of the trunk for basal bark
@StevenSmith-7t391
@StevenSmith-7t391 2 күн бұрын
That’s more in line with my procedure. Thanks.
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat Күн бұрын
No prob!
@daveguttormson6315
@daveguttormson6315 4 күн бұрын
Great work Sam. That cover looks perfect.
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 4 күн бұрын
Thanks Dave, it's been a really fun spot
@randyh.6019
@randyh.6019 7 күн бұрын
So say you frost seeded clovers in March into last years peas and bean plots with the intension of mowing 3 x then broadcasting winter oats, wheat and rye after last mowing, but now torn between broadcasting and no-till drilling with maybe adding a little clover to it....what would you do?
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 6 күн бұрын
Either will work. If you have the no-till drill I'd probably go that route given it'll give you better seed to soil contact and quicker germination given you'll have the ability to take advantage of the moisture in the soil
@saltytech8380
@saltytech8380 7 күн бұрын
What varieties of clover did you plant Sam?
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 6 күн бұрын
I knew someone would ask that and I forgot to take a snapshot of the seed tag when I planted. It was a blend from merit seed that I remember looked good....
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 6 күн бұрын
I just looked at my receipts and it was the platinum ultra blend they sell which has a couple different alfalfas, ladino and Durana clover, and chicory
@kurtcaramanidis5705
@kurtcaramanidis5705 7 күн бұрын
Love it
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 6 күн бұрын
Yah it's nice to see a plan come together!
@scottschaeffer8920
@scottschaeffer8920 7 күн бұрын
Done the same, all it takes is rain.
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 6 күн бұрын
Yes and we've had plenty of that this year!
@chadilacnissen9717
@chadilacnissen9717 7 күн бұрын
great video!!!
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 7 күн бұрын
@@chadilacnissen9717 thanks! It was fun to see it work out so well
@PaigeNature
@PaigeNature 7 күн бұрын
So beautiful!!! Switchgrass is one of my favorite North American grasses. The wildlife loves it!
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 7 күн бұрын
Agreed! They do love it and I think it's gorgeous esthetically
@ryanconklin5983
@ryanconklin5983 7 күн бұрын
I’m torn between planting light switch grass/planting bushes & shrubs in it and going with your other teachings of just spraying cool season grasses in spring and let seed bed take over. Any advice? I have about 5 acres of old field that I need more cover in to move deer between wood lots. Thoughts? Spraying grasses seems easier, but not sure that it would provide enough cover post mid/late October. Mid Michigan FYI
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 7 күн бұрын
@ryanconklin5983 with 5 acres you could really do either. The switchgrass will give you a quicker ROI but the cool season grass killing/tree planting would likely have better long term results. There's enough space there you could even do a combination of both.
@transamguy9073
@transamguy9073 7 күн бұрын
I have a nice bench system on my north facing hill wich i need to do some cutting for early season bedding. Now my south facing hill needs opened up. There is no sunlight comming through the canopy
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 7 күн бұрын
Sounds like a great recipe for the chainsaw to me!
@db7outdoors987
@db7outdoors987 9 күн бұрын
How much Triclopyr 4 do you put in a 4 gallon backpack sprayer for foilage spraying? Thanks.
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 8 күн бұрын
26 ounces
@db7outdoors987
@db7outdoors987 6 күн бұрын
@@PFHabitat do you put MSO in the Tryclopyr/water mixture? I appreciate the responses. I've never foliage sprayed. I always cut it and spray with Tordon.
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 6 күн бұрын
Yah per the label it calls for it. Basically I just add a splash of it. You don't need much. And I've sprayed plenty without it and still get a great kill rate
@stevedenoyer5956
@stevedenoyer5956 9 күн бұрын
Most up against a structure of some kind. Makes sense, seems like they’d be vulnerable on a windy day like you have.?
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 9 күн бұрын
Possibly, I'll have to see if they seem to avoid the switchgrass areas when I'm hunting on windy days.
@stevedenoyer5956
@stevedenoyer5956 9 күн бұрын
@@PFHabitat you should throw a camera on one of them and track weather patterns and when they bed there! Be an interesting little study!
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 8 күн бұрын
I've tried the camera on beds before and it really wigs um out so tend to shy away from that. Perhaps a trail on the way to them though
@stevedenoyer5956
@stevedenoyer5956 8 күн бұрын
@@PFHabitat yeah be tough there too have to put it low, so they would likely see it and freak out.
@tristanfu1055
@tristanfu1055 9 күн бұрын
Which sprayer do you like using? I just ordered the fmico boomless and I'm worried I may have made thr wrong choice
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 9 күн бұрын
That will work. I have a 25 gallon sprayer with the short 3 nozzle boom fimco sells
@virgilholmes6688
@virgilholmes6688 10 күн бұрын
Nice job doing the homework for the rest of us!
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 10 күн бұрын
I love doing it, thanks for watching!
@derekmuche8927
@derekmuche8927 10 күн бұрын
Great video. Helps confirm my plans to frost seed on the lighter side this winter followed up with a planting of shrubs and trees scattered within. Rather than burning for maintenance, I'll just let mother nature do her thing. Maybe the guys that have solid stands of switch need to consider creating bedding pockets by spot spraying holes in their fields? Then planting some shrubs/trees along side those pockets to sweeten the deal.
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 10 күн бұрын
I love that plan Derek! Yah if guys planted pure switchgrass for bedding, spraying some back or even resetting some with a disc would be a good idea
@TheCaseygore
@TheCaseygore 10 күн бұрын
Your switchgrass looks amazing!
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 10 күн бұрын
Thanks Casey!
@daveguttormson6315
@daveguttormson6315 10 күн бұрын
Great stuff Sam. Totally agree. When i was younger and more ambitious, id collect discarded Christmas trees and drag them out into crp fields and just let them lay. Deer gravitated to them for bedding. Your really putting out some superb content!!
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 10 күн бұрын
Thanks Dave! And that's a great idea! I'm sure the deer loved the structure and the branches made for nice spots for the birds to perch and do some tree seeding for you!.
@gregg9500
@gregg9500 11 күн бұрын
Great video. Thank you. How close can you get to the oaks when spraying without killing them?
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 11 күн бұрын
@gregg9500 as long as you're not hitting the leaves with the foliar mix it won't hurt the mature oaks
@dennisisaacs8508
@dennisisaacs8508 12 күн бұрын
How big is this field and is it square or odd shaped? Thanks
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 12 күн бұрын
The whole area is around 20 acres and it's a square
@derekmuche8927
@derekmuche8927 13 күн бұрын
At what rate would you spread switch into a field you're trying to convert into bedding/old field management?
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 13 күн бұрын
@@derekmuche8927 8 pounds per acre with plenty of open pockets for bedding/early successional growth
@stevedenoyer5956
@stevedenoyer5956 14 күн бұрын
What happens when you get a snow?
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 14 күн бұрын
It'll go down eventually. I'll be sure to do a follow-up early winter to see how long it holds up
@stevedenoyer5956
@stevedenoyer5956 14 күн бұрын
Great, did you drill or conventional seed?
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 14 күн бұрын
Frost seeded immediately after the snow melt
@scottschaeffer8920
@scottschaeffer8920 14 күн бұрын
Like you mentioned, repeat in Winter with 8 inches or so of snow on it. That’s really why you would even, for me, use switchgrass. Limited nest cover ( edges) no brood value, it’s too aggressive to blend with native forbs, etc. So, it’s winter cover predominantly. But, next to a good food plot, can really hold a winter flock pheasants-deer. Keep it up!
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 14 күн бұрын
I actually had a nice sized group of pheasent poults hanging in this spot early. I flushed them walking through it. I'm guessing it's too thick at this point but I have lots of herbaceous growth adjacent to it I'm sure they're in now. I have no clue where the pheasents are coming from given we historically aren't an area that holds them, but really fun to see. And you're correct, they love it in the winter. I'll be sure to share a follow-up.
@daveguttormson6315
@daveguttormson6315 14 күн бұрын
Have you ever went back to that field where you put out logs for bedding spots?
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 14 күн бұрын
I actually just did a few days ago. I'll share that video at some point. No action on the logs but plenty of bedding out there. Lots of doe and fawn beds. I haven't given up hope yet. I'm hoping when the fall shift occurs, I'll get some bedding on them this fall.
@daveguttormson6315
@daveguttormson6315 14 күн бұрын
That looks incredible Sam!
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 14 күн бұрын
Thanks Dave!
@timhatfield6367
@timhatfield6367 14 күн бұрын
Cut mine last week. Rain coming soon in Indiana... Hopefully anyways
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 14 күн бұрын
Sounds perfect!
@patrickbarry9027
@patrickbarry9027 16 күн бұрын
do you come back the year following after late summer heat cooks the wood and the cold winter months break down the woody material and run fire to encourage more seedlings to sprout and make sure you get it wiped out?
@patrickbarry9027
@patrickbarry9027 16 күн бұрын
or could you broadcast treat it with gly in the fall after natives go dormant?
@BenGraf22
@BenGraf22 16 күн бұрын
I have Jake mulching some buckthorn at my property near Fergus today! Love buckthorn destruction! Do you feel like a boom sprayer is better for this vs boomless?
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 16 күн бұрын
Great to hear! I use the 3 nozzle short boom fimco has but the boomless would definitely work too
@db7outdoors987
@db7outdoors987 16 күн бұрын
Is the hack and squirt method effective on buckthorn?
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 16 күн бұрын
@db7outdoors987 no that I've seen from clients that have tried it. Cut stump or basal bark treatment works best. I prefer cut stump
@Matt-33
@Matt-33 16 күн бұрын
Wish I had the funds to start a similar project. The 40 acre piece I hunt looks identical. It's great for holding deer April - November, but offers no winter browse. Nasty stuff.
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 16 күн бұрын
What state are you in?
@Matt-33
@Matt-33 16 күн бұрын
@@PFHabitat Wright Co, MN
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 16 күн бұрын
@Matt-33 your DNR consulting forester is Tony Miller Phone # 320-679-3683 Email [email protected] Contact him to come out to your property to discuss cost-share options for the buckthorn. He will come out for free. You can get a large portion of the removal cost covered through the cost share. I cost shared this project
@Matt-33
@Matt-33 16 күн бұрын
@@PFHabitat Thank you!
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 16 күн бұрын
No prob!
@jamesfarrow2130
@jamesfarrow2130 17 күн бұрын
would love to see you mark off a couple 10 foot square plots and plant acorns in those to see what happens! good luck👍
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 16 күн бұрын
Not a bad idea!
@ScottJenkins-vq5gx
@ScottJenkins-vq5gx 17 күн бұрын
What herbicide are you running in your boom sprayer.?
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 16 күн бұрын
Triclopyr 4
@stevedenoyer5956
@stevedenoyer5956 17 күн бұрын
Looking forward to the results of your work! Glad I don’t have to deal with buckthorn
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 16 күн бұрын
Yes be thankful, it's awful!
@michaelsawyer7029
@michaelsawyer7029 17 күн бұрын
My buddy had same problem, we tore that thing completely apart, the last thing we checked was the manifold, turned out the manifold went bad, new manifold and now all three nozzles work great again, so check your manifold
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 17 күн бұрын
@@michaelsawyer7029 that's what I did in this video
@tristanfu1055
@tristanfu1055 18 күн бұрын
It can persist in the seed bed for 1 to 2 years. It's likely you'll still have to treat seedlings, but not as many. Good video. BT is a pita
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 18 күн бұрын
The U of Minnesota just did a study checking the seed viability of buckthorn. 97% sprouts the 1st year so if you hammer it good the 1st year you'll be in really good shape. Google that one, very interesting and encouraging results. Better than that we used to think when we thought it persisted for several years.
@StevenSmith-7t391
@StevenSmith-7t391 18 күн бұрын
Glad to hear you’re chasing buckthorn. Triclopyr 4 / diesel 1:4 mix works on basal bark treatments as well when temperatures are below 85°. Good information as usual.
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 18 күн бұрын
@StevenSmith-7t391 yah I'll basal bark treat when I'm foliar spraying with the backpack sprayer and I have just a few residual seed trees left. I prefer cut stump just because I feel it's quicker for me in heavier areas and I use less chemical than basal bark treatment.
@NorthMissouriOutdoors
@NorthMissouriOutdoors 19 күн бұрын
Great share and information on this topic
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 18 күн бұрын
@@NorthMissouriOutdoors thanks!
@artbrennhofer8283
@artbrennhofer8283 23 күн бұрын
That looks like it is working out pretty good. I am guessing the deer won't bother using it, so there won't be any chance encounters or being able to pattern you coming and going. Thanks for the video.
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 23 күн бұрын
Yah I think you are correct. Having a quiet easy access is going to be immensely helpful this fall
@ChilcoteForestryServices
@ChilcoteForestryServices 23 күн бұрын
Ueah but jeffy says you dont need canopy😅
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 23 күн бұрын
He has a video of himself standing under a canopy he created talking about how much he likes canopies on his old youtube channel :)
@ChilcoteForestryServices
@ChilcoteForestryServices 22 күн бұрын
@@PFHabitat figures
@ChilcoteForestryServices
@ChilcoteForestryServices 24 күн бұрын
Nice
@PFHabitat
@PFHabitat 24 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@hntdux2700
@hntdux2700 24 күн бұрын
What are your thoughts on buckthorn?