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@bLACKHACKX
@bLACKHACKX Сағат бұрын
why u dont go in "defend" modus for example @ angles or dragons if they can attack u twice ? I mean its not nessasary to "charge"
@napevno
@napevno 45 минут бұрын
Angels could also defend until behes move :) It's a standard idea, that in such cases slower unit must "charge"
@KutaphoneX
@KutaphoneX Сағат бұрын
I was surprised how they lost to Archangels, so I started to wonder why... and I realised that Behemoths are late game beasts, the longer game goes on, the better stats all heroes have - the bigger advantage Behs get... they raise up with dmg while enemies almost stay still with defense ^^
@cmlcml415
@cmlcml415 2 сағат бұрын
Behemoth, the king of cost efficiency 🤩
@Foogle6594
@Foogle6594 2 сағат бұрын
"Come give me a hug!"
@napevno
@napevno 2 сағат бұрын
First cost efficiency was epic from the beginning 🤣
@Allkon
@Allkon 4 сағат бұрын
Lol bottom of the bottom
@Parasmunt
@Parasmunt 14 сағат бұрын
In a summon spell though, they are sweeeeet
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 11 сағат бұрын
Agreed on that :) Thanks for the comment.
@DP-yu4rr
@DP-yu4rr 20 сағат бұрын
To make it fair. You need 2 rounds .So evry one can make the first move
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 11 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the comment. A good suggestion. Just to clarify, do you mean that in some cases, the slower units should go first, or just if the speed is tied? :)
@onodera3964
@onodera3964 Күн бұрын
There's a reason why they are called Poop Elementals.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
That is rather accurate :D Thanks for the comment.
@acestealman
@acestealman Күн бұрын
AFAIK Lizard Warriors were buffed ih HOTA (which they absolutely deserved) but maybe their AI value remained unchanged ?
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
That might very well be the case :) Thanks for the comment.
@Igor369
@Igor369 Күн бұрын
On par with Imps, Walking dead and zombies... OOF.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
Well put :D Thanks for the comment.
@Seledko
@Seledko Күн бұрын
It's interesting, how earth elementals will show themself if hero will be Thunar, who add damage to their stats. You can do special episode just for fun)
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
Let's see :) Thanks for the comment.
@piotrbyskun8309
@piotrbyskun8309 Күн бұрын
Nice video, as always! I really appreciate the adequacy of the title... I have a feeling that 3DO tried to make all the four basic elementals (air, water, fire and earth) quite similar to each other in terms of stats as to none would stand out significantly. As the outcome, we have Air being extraordinarily strong for a second tier unit, whereas Earth is ultra weak. Water and Fire are mediocre ones. This concept of elemental balancing may be even as old as Heroes 2, where all elementals were basicaly of the same tier.
@Jutrzen
@Jutrzen Күн бұрын
Water is amazing. Upgraded is the best level 3 creature.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
Well put. That is likely :) Thanks for the comment.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
@@Jutrzen Yea, agreed that Water is relatively good, but imo Storm is better for their tier :) Thanks for the comment.
@Jutrzen
@Jutrzen 21 сағат бұрын
@@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Storm are best level 3 creatures on level 2. Ice are best level 3 creatures, not counting Storm. There's a reason WoG balance patch nerfs air and storm elementals
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 11 сағат бұрын
@@Jutrzen That is reasonable :) Thanks for the comment.
@aaronmadders
@aaronmadders Күн бұрын
I knew I despised them for food reason. Absolutely worthless unit
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
Well put :) Thanks for the comment.
@napevno
@napevno Күн бұрын
Finally, bully Stronghold army has been punched 🎉
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
Indeed :) Thanks for the comment.
@acestealman
@acestealman Күн бұрын
This video should be a special one - just 10 minutes long white text on black screen saying "Really bad".
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
Well, that could work too :) Thanks for the comment.
@RllXeron
@RllXeron Күн бұрын
Well I had the feeling about the outcome so much that when scoretable showed up i had the "I gotta feeling" song played in my mind 😂😂😂 This unit i so bad that i never use it This unit is so bad that i often attack it on day 1 This unit is soo bad that I consider spell with it as a wasted mana Guys it is t5 that is as bad as the worst t2s it was horrible! Cant wait for more.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Yea, that was rather "impressive" from the Elementals :D
@ahmadabughazaleh0
@ahmadabughazaleh0 Күн бұрын
Im back sorry for being late what did i missed rather how miserable were earth and Magma elementals ? Good that you still making Heroes 3 videos seems ideas you make does lots of videos even in the future . Cheers Ah yeah that funny how earth elementals completely weak and costy in the same time , conflux is a strange town you have lots of op stuff but worst army (except pixies and phoenixes you mostly bring with your main hero , water and air sometimes)
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Valid points :)
@Johnson-ut6br
@Johnson-ut6br Күн бұрын
Can't believe it is as good as the zombies.
@RllXeron
@RllXeron Күн бұрын
That comment was suprisingly accurate 😂
@crossmodulation9730
@crossmodulation9730 Күн бұрын
Worse.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
Well, they did manage to win vs. Horde :) Thanks for the comment.
@Canuovea
@Canuovea Күн бұрын
Real bad. Though, I guess the tests don't play to what few strengths they have, namely, being a road block to protect other units that are better and longer ranged. Wow. Magma Elementals actually managed that siege attack. Has anyone ever lost against the Horde army? I can't recall. That victory is the only thing giving these particular elementals any point of pride. Imagine Stone and Iron Golems doing better. Oof.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Walking Dead and Zombies lost to the Horde. Regarding strengths and weaknesses, Dendroids did not do too badly in this test :)
@cmlcml415
@cmlcml415 Күн бұрын
That long pause when losing at Elite... I bet he is thinking giving it a 0 😂😂😂 I do wonder how much Thunar and Erdamon can improve if their +5 damage is added for these
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Yea, a proper hero could do quite a bit for the troops tested :)
@Raukodor
@Raukodor 2 күн бұрын
Man earth elementals did even worse than walking deads
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
That is quite an achievement :) Thanks for the comment.
@Jutrzen
@Jutrzen Күн бұрын
No they didn't.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
@@Jutrzen Imo they did, if cost etc. is taken into account :) Thanks for the comment.
@Jutrzen
@Jutrzen 21 сағат бұрын
@@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu But thaey got the same numer of points? And they did better in fights?
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 11 сағат бұрын
@@Jutrzen Ah, true. I was kind of dismayed by their performance as they are still T5 creatures :) Thanks for the comment.
@bpc1003
@bpc1003 2 күн бұрын
Earthies really looked like crap here
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
Agreed on that :) Thanks for the comment.
@Raukodor
@Raukodor 2 күн бұрын
How bad instead how good 😂
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
Well, imo it reflects the outcome :D Thanks for the comment.
@Lesatu
@Lesatu 4 күн бұрын
Huh, I didn't know tower defenders could safely walk across the landmines until the master gremlins did it here.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Yea, that is nice. Though, on the other hand, in the late game, imo the moats are just better :)
@Lesatu
@Lesatu Күн бұрын
@@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu absolutely agreed. being able to block a broken wall and keep an attacking stack in the moat can be huge.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu Күн бұрын
@@Lesatu True :) Thanks for the comment.
@Canuovea
@Canuovea 4 күн бұрын
Oooof, that fear hitting the Titans... twice! And some of the RNG for the Genie's magic on the Titans was poor (especially vs missiles). Nonetheless, that's the nature of the game. Nicely done. I wonder if, were luck perfect, Tower's results might have matched with Rampart and Castle.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Actually, Tower did better in battles than Rampart. What hurts them is high price units and high cost buildings :)
@Canuovea
@Canuovea 4 күн бұрын
@@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu They did seem to score pretty highly in the battles they won.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 3 күн бұрын
@@Canuovea Agreed. :) Seems a bit either or faction. Thanks for the comment.
@DenizLeblebici
@DenizLeblebici 4 күн бұрын
try hitting ancient behemoths first please their numbers needs to be decreased first in my opinion
@DenizLeblebici
@DenizLeblebici 4 күн бұрын
also think about which unit can bring you maximum damage in next turn and try to decrease them
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I have tried on focusing on them quite a few times, and the results have been rather bad. Though, perhaps with this unit it could have worked better :)
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
@@DenizLeblebici Thanks for the sound advice :)
@DenizLeblebici
@DenizLeblebici 4 күн бұрын
You make some poor decisions ın combat
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Agreed on that :) At the same time, a couple of points. - The decisions should be equally poor in all tests. - I remade some of the battles, to test different approaches - In complicated battles like these, there are bound to be some errors. Thanks for the comment.
@xxelhomm1327
@xxelhomm1327 4 күн бұрын
Ppl do be kinda nasty in the comments but the content is great nonetheless, keep it up hero.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thank You! Doing my best :)
@heikkihegemon493
@heikkihegemon493 5 күн бұрын
Targeting the gremlins with Titans was just pure idiocracy...
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Perhaps Magi would have been better. Tried that several times, targeting Titans first lead to the worst result :)
@heikkihegemon493
@heikkihegemon493 4 күн бұрын
@@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu wow, that is odd!
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
@@heikkihegemon493 Thanks for the comment. They are so tanky, and then the weaker units dish out too much damage and we are left about me having 20 Titans, enemy having 15+ and quite a lot of weaker units.
@CuteChonkies
@CuteChonkies 5 күн бұрын
Why didn’t the gargoyles block the cyclops early on since they do so much ranged damage but low melee damage? I felt that fight could have been done much better. Were Nagas also arranged in that position to lure out the thunderbirds? Was painful to watch the fight on the missiles too, why attack the master gremlins first when they are the weakest shooter? I do feel that tower deserves more justice (: but the video concept is good!
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I did several tries in the vs. missiles battle. Going after the Titans first resulted the worst performance. But, I admit that the play was not optimal in all cases. At the same time, imo it was not optimal in Rampart test. So it is kind of equal :)
@happywheeler4268
@happywheeler4268 5 күн бұрын
Poor Tower…who’s next?
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Inferno will be next :) Thanks for the comment.
@tomcut8361
@tomcut8361 5 күн бұрын
ai fights are so bad
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Yea, the AI makes some rather interesting decisions :)
@happywheeler4268
@happywheeler4268 5 күн бұрын
Is it possible you could do the phoenixes? Also, if this 100x growth, shouldn’t Phoenixes have 200? I haven’t played HoTA
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. That is the plan at some point :) It will be 150 as per HotA.
@xxelhomm1327
@xxelhomm1327 6 күн бұрын
Black Dragons are always overrated af in III.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Yea, their performance here was not that good :)
@Johnson-ut6br
@Johnson-ut6br 6 күн бұрын
How about gold dragons? Can they defeat the army ...?
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. That has been already tested. Link below :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3LckoyCj9FoqZY
@Belphegor-nx9qd
@Belphegor-nx9qd 6 күн бұрын
Dude because of you, i installed the game last night and playing the campaign. The sad part was, i was late for work this morning because i couldnt sleep. I hope you did not ruin my life.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Ouch :) Try to cope. Thanks for the comment.
@FrankDrebbin-de3te
@FrankDrebbin-de3te Күн бұрын
Same lol
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 22 сағат бұрын
@@FrankDrebbin-de3te Huh, it seems the channel is becoming a bane for a working class :D Thanks for the comment.
@Nigaki23333
@Nigaki23333 6 күн бұрын
Black dragons, imo, have the coolest design out of all dragons. My favorite unit from Dungeon, along with minotaur kings.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Mine too. Too bad, they did rather poorly in this type of test :) Thanks for the comment.
@Canuovea
@Canuovea 6 күн бұрын
I like the having two stacks battle it out idea because it allows for a demonstration of the RNG, which in this case hurt the poor Black Dragons a bit, and didn't help the Gold Dragons on their turn through the gauntlet. Quite funny. I think the growth results kinda make the Black Dragons seem worse than they are, and the cost efficiency ones maybe a bit better, all because of the Gold Dragon battles. It might be a good idea to set up some part of the system to show when it was a clean stomp (both stacks win) or a close battle (where on stack on each side is victorious). Also, as it is quite rare to have two equal stacks of Archangels, will there be a redoing of their Gauntlet Run but without the Resurrection ability? It was nice to see here.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Perhaps that AA run without resurrection would be interesting :)
@davijosemuller6468
@davijosemuller6468 6 күн бұрын
Pra mim a segunda melhor tropa do jogo,só perde para os archangels pois o simples fato de ter um general bom e ser imune a magia deixa ele praticamente um dos mais perigosos em batalha, pelo menos eu acho kk😂
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Agreed, that the Magic Immunity can be really useful :)
@AleksandrYgA
@AleksandrYgA 7 күн бұрын
Fight tactic with Jaggernauts should be changed. If instead of hitting them you just fly away - the outcome will be different. I'm not talking about flying to far so they can't reach you - just don't let them use their no retaliation strike. Now every round is: hit the Juggernauts, get retaliation and then get their attack. They basically hit twice. If you just move away 1 cell - they have to hit you and get retaliation, so every round is 1 hit from each side
@cmlcml415
@cmlcml415 6 күн бұрын
Then they can do it against Hydra too, don't think this is fair but ok
@koleso1v
@koleso1v 6 күн бұрын
In this case, the only tactics Juggernaut will be using is "defense." Then, you will simply kill all your dragons on their retaliation.
@AleksandrYgA
@AleksandrYgA 6 күн бұрын
@@cmlcml415, no, it's not gonna work with hydras cause they always hit without retaliation so if you wouldn't hit them - they will just eliminate the stack without any losses. Why isn't it fair? It's like saying that first strike isn't fair. Juggernauts can use their no retaliation strike only if you stay near them - why should you help them to win? Dragons hit 2 hexes but no one says that we should position units so dragons can use their ability.
@AleksandrYgA
@AleksandrYgA 6 күн бұрын
@@koleso1v, don't think it will help them cause it will only give them defense boost while the dragons get the first strike again.
@cmlcml415
@cmlcml415 6 күн бұрын
@@AleksandrYgA well yes it would work, BD can wait for Hydra to move or defend, then BD goes to attack and next turn fly away from Hydra then Hydra need to either move or defend again and repeat, then Hydra's no retaliation wouldn't work either, that's almost the same theory as what you had said 🤷‍♂️
@cmlcml415
@cmlcml415 7 күн бұрын
BD: "I'm da strongest in HOMM!" AA: "I'll prove you wrong 🌚"
@acestealman
@acestealman 6 күн бұрын
And then suddenly .. "Ancient Behemoth entered room" :)
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Well put :) Thanks for the comment.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
@@acestealman :D Thanks for the comment.
@KutaphoneX
@KutaphoneX 7 күн бұрын
I thought they will win both fights against Gold Dragons, but I know well that results may vary between this two, slightly in favour of Black Dragons. What was more surpising that one stack of Titans managed to completety overwhelm opposite stack of Black Dragons ^^ I didn't expect that 😅
@ozgog5907
@ozgog5907 7 күн бұрын
Titans have almost the exact same stats, except significantly higher damage. It makes sense that one of them had a clear win. One early hit of high damage and it would be like that.
@crossmodulation9730
@crossmodulation9730 6 күн бұрын
Gold Dragons have 1 more speed, and 2 more attack and defense than Black Dragons. They attack first and have a pretty good chance of winning. Titans have 1 less attack and defense, but +10 potential higher damage. When Black Dragons attack them first, Titans still have a solid chance of winning. But if a Titan attacks first, then Black Dragons have no chance.
@KutaphoneX
@KutaphoneX 6 күн бұрын
@@crossmodulation9730 The chance of winning is a bit bigger for Black Dragons ( vs Gold Dragons ), their +50hp extra makes the difference. Doesn't matter if you take them into solo, or 100 vs 100, Black Dragons still keep on winning, taking loses aswell. I've done my maths, and it's working bro ;)
@crossmodulation9730
@crossmodulation9730 6 күн бұрын
@@KutaphoneX Not that much bigger than it is vs Archangels.
@KutaphoneX
@KutaphoneX 6 күн бұрын
@@crossmodulation9730 AA's are very expensive, and still fall to some other units ( Haspids, Juggernauts, Behemoths should rip them apart too ) .. I don't take into doubt that the're useful, but for me they are not the best of tier 7 units .. Anyway, Dragon's breath is sometimes crutial at the beginning, and you don't have to worry about whether to attack or ressurect. That's why I find some of other 7 tier units much more handy than AA's ;)
@alexanderl9405
@alexanderl9405 7 күн бұрын
The most epic fight between black and golden dragons
@haihoangtranson9540
@haihoangtranson9540 7 күн бұрын
Hah ... Hah ... Hah ... Hah ...
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Agreed on that :) Thanks for the comment.
@tomcut8361
@tomcut8361 7 күн бұрын
tower is neutral town, more ,,good´´ is cove
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. That might be the case :)
@aaronmadders
@aaronmadders 8 күн бұрын
Your tactic vs archers was very flawed and unlike what you'd usually do with archers. I think charging the enemy with pawns and main stack in a duel against magi and gremlins. They never shpuld a chance vs titans no matter how many debuff spells you cast on them
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I tried the vs. missile battles several times. This was the best of those. Though, moving into close proximity might have helped. At the same time, lowering the Titan's def to 0 provided a huge improvement to dmg :)
@peterfuchs1218
@peterfuchs1218 8 күн бұрын
is it just me or is the video wierdly choppy from the middle of sea witches missle challenge ?
@ForgottenInForest
@ForgottenInForest 8 күн бұрын
Yeah, from 6:05 to 8:18
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. You are right, it seems there has been some processor load during the video editing process. My apologies :)
@Canuovea
@Canuovea 8 күн бұрын
Oh. Oh that first battle. Ouch. They really do need to be protected, these ones. And even in an actual straight shootout are a bit weak. But I suppose the weakness effect is actually one of the main points of them. Sorceresses seem a good deal better. Though I look forward to the army version of this because some of these cases would be greatly helped by a unit able to get in front of them. Even the Sorceresses pay for the weakness ability by being a tad weaker than some other ranged units regarding how hard they hit, I suppose. But then, Cove has another unit that will instantly kill at range sometimes, so... I look forward to seeing how that plays out.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Agreed, I really like the weakness. Being able to cast is multiple times and reducing enemy def to 0 can be really useful :)
@crossmodulation9730
@crossmodulation9730 9 күн бұрын
Not very good. Need higher speed for sure. Maybe instead of regeneration, they should regenerate a part of their stack up to full units at the beginning of every turn. Something like "At the start of their turn, regenerate 5% of the current cumulative health". That way the enemy will be forced to attack them quickly, removing focus from stronger units, such as Vamps, Black Knights and Liches.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. An interesting suggestion that would certainly improve them. :)
@crossmodulation9730
@crossmodulation9730 4 күн бұрын
@@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu And maybe drain more mana depending on how big the stack is.
@silkroadmemories
@silkroadmemories 10 күн бұрын
In the last battle the result (and the points) would've been higher if you destroyed the catapult in the second round instead of attacking the magogs. Once you kill the flying units + magogs, you can wait out the tower to destroy all melee that waits outside.
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu
@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu 4 күн бұрын
Fully agreed on that. Though the battle would become too easy then. Thus, not allowed in that test :) Thanks for the comment