Yeah, idk why Riot decided to make him the strongest early game adc instead of scaling champion

You can add me in discord and we will discuss it further! I may be not the best coach, but I'll try to help you :) Discord: armasot

Yeah! Evil trick, but always works ;D

Right now he's very strong and nerf is not that big, so he should be pretty good still, especially if you're playing rageblade into runaan/navori, not botrk first!

@ okay thank you. Can i ask in what situation do kog need to take navori?

If enemy team won't group that much, Navori will be better. Runaan's biggest strength is AOE damage, but it won't be able to give you that AOE damage if enemy team stays far away from each other. Also, with Navori it's less punishing to use W at the wrong time, and your damage on neutrals (baron, dragon) will be better

@@armasot Thank you! I always watch your video keep posting.

2nd this, sound definitely needs to be a bit louder but not too much where it blows our ears off

Mhmm, I think it was KZbin's issue. When I exported my video, everything was fine, but on KZbin it sounds like first ability is quiet, 2nd one is louder, 3rd one is even louder, then it's resetting with new ability. Didn't know that such issue can happen, will be more careful next time!

@@armasot all comes with trial and error. Other than that, amazing concept amazing video, and really good voice overs and captioning

Thank you!! I appreciate it :)

Usually, I'm sitting in master elo, don't have enough time to try hard and climb higher. All informations is taken from lolalytics.com/ and based on stats and trends that I can find!

It's okay :)

I don't think I'll release tierlist for this patch and probably not for the next patch too. Right now, mages are dominating botlane and some adc items don't work very well, so I'll wait for some changes and stable situation in botlane before making it. I can name the best champions tho! If you're fully an adc main: S - Kog'maw and Nilah are the best A - Sivir, lethality Jhin, Caitlyn and MF with ghostblade-collector, but their items will be nerfed next week. Tristana and Draven look decent too. B - other champions like Ashe, Samira, Xayah, Corki, Jinx and Lucian. Some champions in this category are suffering from bad itemization, like Jinx, Ashe, Corki, so they could be higher with better items choices by players. C - other adcs, nothing much to say. If you wanna abuse mages, here are a couple ones: Karthus, Heimer, Brand, Swain, Hwei, Ziggs, Lux, Seraphine. All of them are very strong so I recommend to learn at least one of them.

@ thank you for sharing this.

Name one item that players are buying when they're winning except mejais. There's no such item. Statistics will gather all good, average and bad angles for an item and give a result. No one is ignoring stats or purposes of the items. Items are just pure math in general. You always wanna buy better item, like IE for Jinx in 14.18, which was quite popular btw. Of course, there are situations, where you want some different items, like, vs full ap composition you wanna stack magic resistance instead of going for your usual build or vs tanks you wanna get a lot of attack speed, crit and armor pen. Still, in most situations you'll stick to the most optimal build with best items, just because they'll give you the highest chance to win your game. For example, if you're playing Ashe, your best build would be statikk into pd every game. However, if you don't have enough dps in your team, and enemy team has 3-4 melees, you could change it to yuntal/kraken+runaan. Or, if enemy team has a lot of assassins and champions in your team cannot protect well enough, you wanna get bt/trinity/shieldbow on your first 2 items. So, in most situations you'll stick to statikk-pd, but in certain situations your build will change. And look at pro play - players are always playing collector Caitlyn, no matter if they're playing vs full squishy composition or vs heavy tank composition with full ad in their team. Does it sound right to you? Also, I think I explained all items, except IE for Jinx, but it was simply better in terms of damage output, so nothing much to say.

​@@armasot Well that's the thing, I agree with a lot of your points but you've also outlined a lot of the reasons why item winrates are incredibly misleading as well. Of course itemization varies from game to game, if you build the exact same items every game because they have the highest winrate, then you're building sub optimal items for the states of the games you're in. But that's the whole point, items are situational. A lot of games adcs don't get to reach full build for instance, so items like GA and IE have disproportionately high winrates. In the video when you said "look at IE, it has a higher winrate than kraken first, which means it's better" is very misleading and you can tell by looking at the amount of games listed that you showed, farrrr less games were played with IE first but it has a substantially higher winrate. This is because there are less games where Jinx is fed enough to go IE first, and when she does, her odds of winning show up as higher because she's fed enough to where she can afford to go that and still win the game. That simply doesn't equate to IE > kraken (granted I always go that item first with her because my playstyle with her relies on me being more passive at 1 item and popping off with IE + hurricane in skirmishes in midgame) a better player than me might always rush Kraken (korean players tend to do this or collector if we look at stats) because their games rely more on early fights for instance. By the logic of winrate = optimal, every champ should have high winrate items in their builds every single game which is simply not true. People who buy guardian angel, mejai's, jaksho, and a whole host of other items do so when they're drastically ahead or in situations where the game is already won. I do agree with you about the mathematical backing of items, esp for adc since we're a dps class, but by that logic as well every crit adc should rush IE because it's mathematically like 1% higher dps than all other first items for instance. A lot of games I play with Jinx I tend to rush IE because her base kit strength + tempo allows her to pop off with only two items like IE and hurricane for example. But also some players might play better with Kraken or collector first because they are able to optimize the passives and need the early strength of those items that IE can't provide (IE doesn't give anything except dmg while kraken and collector provide executes for low health targets which is something jinx really values in early fights paired with having attack speed as well as AD.) Collector is also a lethality item which means if an adc gets massively fed early and rushes it, they will snowball and the item winrate will increase. Also to futher look into collector vs ie for instance, Riot August had a fantastic explanation of item winrates using those two as an example and I think checking it out would be really informative! (just look up august-item winrate fallacy) and it's a subject many "league academics" like LS and such as well as other devs have talked about at length and I'm sure you can find a bunch of other videos that go more in depth on the subject. Also your point about "if you're playing vs full ap go mr" is another perfect example of why item winrates are misleading. Maw has a 55% winrate so if we go by winrate = strength every adc should buy it right? But that's only true because the games in which an adc has already reached their core items (before losing the game), and they choose a defensive item like maw vs full ap or vs a fed ap assassin or smth which is guaranteed to spike the winrate of the item. At the end of the day items aren't simply math and their winrates, winrates are only partially indicative of core builds and item strength. I hope I didn't come off as condescending at all, cheers!

First 2 items are usually not situational. They're mostly core to your build. Yeah, you can choose between some options if your champ allows that (like Ashe), but most of the time you'll want same 2 items, except rare and extreme situations that i've mentioned above. IE first was better for Jinx. You could see it througthout whole 2nd split. Same thing happened with other champions. Games are giving you sample size which decreases the amount of winrate fluctuations. And as I said in the video, yeah, you need 1.3k gold on your recall for this item, but if you didn't have it - statikk was also better than kraken first. So, IE was always better if you had 1.3k gold, if you didn't - well, then your choice is statikk! (btw, I'm talking about 14.18 which was the worlds patch, for 14.22 IE doesn't look the best). About korean players build kraken - no, there's no logic behind it's decision, they're just used to it. Used to times where kraken was the best first item rush. Guardian angel and Jacksho are mostly late game options, I'm not using data for 4th and 5th items, because they're just situational, and mejais - yeah, the only item which people are buying only from ahead. If players play better with kraken and collector, it doesn't mean that it's the best, does it? They can feel more comfortable because they're used to these items, but it's not like your whole playstyle will change with IE first instead of these items. This theme is close to perception of the power vs real power. Items with cool effects and which look powerful in early game will feel stronger than they really are, but in reality, they won't be that good throughout the game. They can be fun, but not optimal. Like, right now it's almost impossible to buy kraken, when it's passive was gutted in 14.19, yet, it's the most popular item for some champions and decreasing their winrate by a lot. About Collector winrate, it's kinda funny, because yeah, theoretically it should be a snowball item, so it's winrate should be higher, yet, it's winrate was bad for whole 2nd split except 1 patch, so people don't perceive this item as snowball one - they're buying it in bad situations as often as in good situations. And yeah, Riot August said that higher cost items will have more winrate, it is true and I'm thinking about it before making any conclusion. That's why I'm saying that IE is not good rn, despite still having the best winrate. Just because it's cost is 600 gold higher than other first item options for adcs on average. Well, and I saw plenty of content creators who used stats completely wrong or didn't use them at all before making any statement. For example, recent adc boom in midlane and toplane. Basically every content creator was saying that adcs are op there, yet, all of them were pretty bad. I even made video about it. Or Vladimir W max build, which decreased his winrate by 3-4% and Riot had to nerf his W just to stop that nightmare. About Maw, not sure where did you find that it has 55% winrate. If we look at same Jinx - in 30 days she has 56.15% winrate with Maw as her 3rd item. But all other items also have high winrate because you're choosing between them in mid-game, which means that you didn't lose your game still. Basically the same thing as with higher cost items will have more winrate. And yeah, maw is situational item, so it's not really useful to look at it's winrate. Winrates are good for first 2-3 items. You can create optimal build path that you'll build in most games and change it to other viable items if you have a reason to do so. Thank you for your comments and effort tho! I really like discussing league and stuff about it :)

Ahaha, well, at least you have fun with your favorite champion! That's the most important thing :)

You're welcome!

It would be good, yeah, but yuntal got changed in last patch. I answered to you in your previous comments about builds that I think would be optimal for your situation. Also, important to mention, is that sometimes you don't need to kill tanks. Like, Ashe is a supportive adc most of the time, and if your team has more than enough damage, you don't need to also go full dps.

@ thank you. Im new in your channel but i like watching your educational content.

Well, right now tanks are in a pretty good spot and itemization/runes are not that good vs them. Also, Ashe is not the best at killing tanks. You can take cut down and alacrity, it'll definitely help vs them. If your only goal is to shred through tanks, you need to stack crit items and attack speed. Something like yuntal into double zeal item (runaan+phantom dancer) and lord dominic. Infinity edge last. You can switch 1 attack speed item to ldr, if enemy tanks are getting too much armor early in the game. However, if your team is also stacking crit items, it's probably better to go some on-hit options, otherwise randuins will counter all your team's damage. Botrk is turbo dead sadly, so I guess it would be kraken into terminus/runaan and other on-hit items next.

@ thank you very much ill try this in my game.

Ohh, thanks! Yeah, maybe I need to change them. The reason I put them is because I wanna make video entertaining to watch, but I guess I'm killing this cozy vibe and slow pace

Wp!

Great! and yeah, my bad, I guess I'm blind xd

Twitch lvl 1 is pretty weak, which means that you won't have bot lane control most of the time. Also, you'll lose 2 minions max, usually it's only 1 minion. Yeah, you won't be able to have prio until minute 3-4, but it's still a great way to put an insane pressure on the map

It's working every time in diamond-master+ games. Not to mention, that Twitch lvl 1 is pretty weak, which means that you won't have bot lane control most of the time.

You give up the early lane like this but you're Twitch so in the long run it's not THAT bad, at the same time you basically win your midlaner the lane

To be honest, most players don't know how to react to this. Enemy botlane will just try to fast push, which is exactly the opposite of what they need to do, so you won't even give up lane that much

I'm happy that you found it useful!!

Heey, I'm glad you enjoyed my videos :)

I'm glad you liked the video and new yun tal!

It works with mejais like this, yeah, because everyone knows that they should buy it only from ahead. Is there any item in league that you're also buying from ahead/behind? Not really. Well, there are some other things, like 1st item has deflated winrate because of 2nd item choice. It happened with rageblade on Kog'maw because of nashor's tooth 2nd, which is a suboptimal choice for him. Other than that, as long as sample size is big enough, winrate of the items will show you their real power.

Yeah, the last one is so hard, I wouldn't have guessed it either xD

Yeah, I'm Russian. It's hard to completely remove the accent, but it's much better than 2 months ago!

@@armasot you talk really well, im in russia right now

oh, I hope you enjoy it here :)

I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

Thank you, I appreciate it :)

I'm glad you liked it :)

Yeah, it's not as easy as it seems ;D

Ye, his ult sound is so strange, but unique!

good job :)

@@armasot thx :D

Playing skarner jungle save me :D

Did you remember his sound in just one game? That's awesome!

Oooh, nice try still! I hope you liked it :)

I thought he will be a bit easier than Zoe. I probably should've put him last

Yeah, but I think Maokai ult sound is much longer. Still, very good result!

Good result! :)

I'm sure you'll do better next time :)

Which one did you get?

@@Mushroom-Stew ornn ;-; i thought it was ornn, kayle, kayn, k'sante, kassadin

Yeah, Skarner's ult sounds pretty unique! Especially if you didn't hit anyone

They're probably spamming space or tab button. You need something to spam to keep your apm high enough.

hey! Thank you, I appreciate it a lot :)

Hey, I'm glad you liked it! About the question - my native language is Russian, so it was hard for me to learn all the pronunciation in the last two months, but seeing your comment now warms my heart, so thank you for your kind words :)

@@armasot Я очень много смотрю разных гайдов по лиге. И из всех кого я видел у тебя чистейший язык для моего уха. Для себя я кнопку А переделал на пробел. Он находится под отдельным (большим) пальцем и не требуется сдвигать пальцы со скиллов когда кайтишь.

Ну, скорее всего это связано с тем, что мы оба русские, поэтому небольшой акцент для тебя может быть довольно приятным) А про кнопку - обычно на пробел у большинства стоит центрирование на своём персонаже. Это тоже очень полезная функция, которая позволяет тебе быстро переключаться на своего персонажа и не терять его в файте и трейдах, её также используют для повышения apm. Рекомендую поставить на какую-нибудь кнопку, главное, чтобы было удобно!

@@armasot у меня она на А стоит)

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hey, thank you for your kind words! I think i could have played better, but overall yeah, Voli trolled. It Happens, you can't win every game. Improvement is the most important thing anyway, so i wasn't mad!