While useful in time of need with emergency construction with spare parts. Not practical when a proper battleship can be built. Basic idea scaled up from placing a ship's cannon in one of her boats or on barges. Far too fragile by themselves. Might have been better to use the guns for a fixed bunker gun guarding a pass or harbor. A battleship gun mounted atop the rock of Gilbralter for example like Fort Drum in Manila bay.
@johnking62523 сағат бұрын
I am not astounded by the comment from the 16th century of the mortar causing death and destruction to soldiers and civilians alike, an idea that has become quite developed over the centuries. And somehow we cry about the poor dead innocent " civilians " . What bullshit. Just saying it ain't nothing new. 🌎✌️🌍
@honfmeilingfleet95710 сағат бұрын
i just playing Modern Warships with FS Admiral Graf Spee warship then this Short came
@robertmoss197115 сағат бұрын
Super! Smashing! Marvellous! As you said it is a pity HMS Roberts was not preserved as a Museum ship. But I believe one of her 15" guns was kept as a museum piece outside the imperial war museum in London.
@timandellenmoran121315 сағат бұрын
Nice job!
@rogerramjet308317 сағат бұрын
Missed the battle of jutland and did nothing of note during ww2 unlike the true legend, her sister ship HMS Warspite which saw more action than any battleship of any navy in both world wars
@avnrulz17 сағат бұрын
Congratulations!
@kidmohair815118 сағат бұрын
congrats on full time (hopefully well paid) employment! these monitor things have taken 2nd place for the oddest looking ships. (1st goes to the Russian circular, dare I call them, battleships)
@robbielee214818 сағат бұрын
New subscriber, never enough Royal Navy. Nice to know Furious' big gun didn't go to waste!
@RectalRooter20 сағат бұрын
I enjoyed the video. Thank you for the entertainment 👍 @ plus's I noticed -- I didn't see other videos on the ship (( there were vids about the class. But not specifically of the ship )) And you gave credit to the work of others you used in the video.
@Gunter-ug6bl22 сағат бұрын
Great Info. Thanks
@CliveN-yr1gv22 сағат бұрын
Another very interesting doco. That they managed to shoehorn that 18 inch behemoth into such a relatively small ship is a testament to good engineering and 'can do' attitudes at the shipyard. On another note, congratulations on a successful internship and securing a position after you finish school. I'll bet your future employer hs seen one or two of your videos and realised he is hiring a man who has an eye for detail, and who can juggle many tasks while getting them all done in a timely and 'tiddly' fashion. Well done.
@michaelinsc972423 сағат бұрын
Fantastic news regarding your successful internship! CONGRATULATIONS!!!
@SCjunk23 сағат бұрын
An earlier iteration of a shore bombardment vessel preceded the 12 inch armed monitors. the 1892 vintage pre-dreadnought battleship HMS Revenge, which was previously a gunnery training ship so well maintained with up to date (for 1913) gunnery controls had been paid off and laid up at Motherbank prior to being scrapped in August 1914 she was reactivated to assist as a shore bombardment vessel - fist thing done was the 13.5 inch Mk1 to IV L/25 calibre guns were relined to 12 inch standard. (the Later Dreadnought 13.5 inch guns were Mk V and were 45 cal in length. She then was deployed in the bombardment of Nieuwpoort Belgium along with HMS Majestic, She later bombarded Westend. In 1915 She was refitted with bulges and with these she used to heal the ship to increase range, She also did the fist aircraft to ship bombardment co-operation work. During 1915 she was renamed HMS Redoubtable to release the name Revenge for the new 15 inch gun battleship. She finally paid off in December 1915, making way for the later monitors as described above. Great video. Thx.
@bigsarge2085Күн бұрын
Always interesting!
@ImportantHistoryКүн бұрын
Thanks for watching everyone! I would like to say that if some of the photos you see here are either Lord Clive or General Wolfe when we discuss the 18 inch gun. As you can imagine, it's a bit hard to tell which one it is considering their refits were so similar, so much so, many of the sources don't even know which one it is!
@hammer13492 күн бұрын
Warspite has a bad history of being crippled and stuck in circles. She was a tough old lady 🫡
@Austech2 күн бұрын
My great grandfather was a stoker 1st class on HMS Tiger and was severely wounded in action at The Battle Of Jutland. I am still researching how he came to be on it as he was born in Australia. I wonder if he wanted to be there as it appears he was a bit of an Australian patriot.....a record from the RN shows what I already know from a later Australian police record - "tattoos of kangaroo's, Advance Australia flag and Australian coat of arms". After being seriously wounded on the 31st, he was transferred to the Royal Australian Navy and on to HMAS Australia for the duration of the war.
@bigsarge20852 күн бұрын
Her 18 inch gun may have had limited use, but still cool!
@CliveN-yr1gv2 күн бұрын
Short. Sharp. Informative. Nice 👍🏽
@domidom19602 күн бұрын
Etonnant et intéressant récit d’une des premières actions de guerre du lllème reich quasiment méconnue du grand public mais qui aura scellé l’agression de la Pologne par l’Allemagne Nazie et le début de la deuxième guerre mondiale. Bizarre que les Polonais n’aient pas pris plus de précautions avant d’accueillir pacifiquement un navire de combat tel que le S. Holstein qui bien qu’obsolète n’en était pas moins dangereux en mettant la garnison de Dantzig à sa portée de tir, d’autant que le contexte géopolitique de l’époque était extrêmement tendu et que le jeu des alliances ne suffisait pas à garantir leur sécurité face au caractère belliqueux et aux ambitions revanchardes de leur voisin germanique.
@craigfazekas39232 күн бұрын
Great upload !! I have an attachment toward BB-62. I have been on board as a visitor 10 times. My brother volunteered aboard her helping out the maintenance crew for a few years. We both saw her come up the Delaware River to her new home roughly 25 years ago, in National Park, NJ. My last visit included meeting Drachinifel, talking & having him sign my KÖNIGSBERG artwork from my Flyhawk 1:700 kit. He laughed when I asked him to sign it, "Best cruiser ever built"- he bashes that class of vessel- continuously. So instead ? He wrote, "Best target ever built" & signed it; smart ass that he is... 🚬😎👍
@ernestimken69693 күн бұрын
First you said the large gun was 15 inch. Later you said 18 inch gun. Which is it?
@ImportantHistory3 күн бұрын
Firstly, I never said 15 inch. Secondly, you might’ve misheard when I said 12 inches as that was her original armament she kept even after the 18 inch gun was installed. Another possible statistic you could’ve heard is 14 inches as there were four monitors built before the 12 inch monitor class. Hope this clears things up. Have a great day :)
@zev15003 күн бұрын
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS, I'm currently working on watching all your full videos
@ImportantHistory3 күн бұрын
Thank you! I'm not a huge fan of some of the older videos. But, anything from late May of 2023 onwards is much better!
@TimeSurfer2063 күн бұрын
Why am ah hearing my Louisiana cousin talking about plans to put a Howitzer on his Bass Boat?
@ImportantHistory3 күн бұрын
Before anyone comments, the term "large light cruiser'' to describe HMS Furious derives from a political scheme First Sea Lord Jackie Fisher concocted to get the money allocated for HMS Furious, Glorious, and Courageous. The ships in their original configurations could be best described as "battlecruisers" or even "light battlecruisers" as some historians have called them.
@usernamesreprise40683 күн бұрын
I was hoping you would have shown the pic of the old Furybucket as her crew fondly knicknamed her ( including my grand father who served aboard her from 1937 till she was paid off) when she was conducting makeshift trials using the worlds first ski ramp made aboard her by her own crew out of stout timber's, in the pic I'm referring to a Fairy Barracuda is seen taking off using the ramp during a sea trial.
@clinging543213 күн бұрын
One of her 15 inch guns is on display outside the Imperial war museum in London.
@xavanto0234 күн бұрын
HMS Warspite, mi buque preferido de la Royal Navy 👍👍👍👏👏
@lexus54135 күн бұрын
My uncle served aboard Warspite as a Royal Marine for the duration of the war. Been trying to get crews lists but so far no joy. Lot of stories to be told about her.
@ImportantHistory5 күн бұрын
Two places I might try, one, the imperial war museum, you might send them an email or a call, they might be able to help. Two, the book in the description about Warspite, plenty of stories and the like in there. Hope that helps, have a great day :)
@lexus54135 күн бұрын
@@ImportantHistory I have already tried the IWM - no joy but I will look into the book - Thanks
@level98bearhuntingarmor5 күн бұрын
soviet navy moment
@Shadow_78136 күн бұрын
Was this an Italian ship handed to the Russians after WW2?
@ImportantHistory6 күн бұрын
Yes. It was the Italian dreadnought Giulio Cesare.
@squirepraggerstope35916 күн бұрын
"The [British] Battlecruiser squadrons needed gunnery practice"... which is actually a monumental understatement w.r.t. Beatty's two squadrons, as their gunnery (AND dangerously slapdash munitions and cordite handling practices, against all official procedure) were both, in general, frankly execrable. Like a few other things that ultimately were also Beatty's fault and which all taken together, certainly explain the near loss of HMS Lion and almost certainly the loss of HMS Queen Mary. As well as contributing to increasing the statistical likelihood of further losses and so may even apply to the sinking of HMS Indefatigable too. Though in her case it's not demonstrable anyway. Even more so as neither she nor the other 1st generation battlecruiser, Hood's HMS Invincible (which crew's gunnery skills were superb) had any business whatsoever even being in a line of battle facing other capital ships.
@squirepraggerstope35916 күн бұрын
The ship that repeatedly refused to die! Until finally sold for scrap, yet even then refused to go quietly to the breakers. So broke her tow, grounded, wouldn't be refloated in several salvage attempts and, having in essence insisted on a sea-death could be only incompletely disassembled, with much still left lying right off the beach!
@squirepraggerstope35916 күн бұрын
Thank goodness for Fisher's Baltic Plan and the RN in consequence being stuck with the "large light cruisers", Courageous, Glorious and, most of all, Furious (immediately rechristened "Outrageous", "Curious" and "Spurious" by serving RN wits)! So why thank goodness? As without these originally absurd vessels, above all the really weird and thus already partially converted during build, HMS Furious, the RN would NEVER have secured the required funds from a terminally 'Pikey' Treasury to be able subsequently to convert anything that could, for the cost, be made remotely as appropriate as these particular three large, fast, light hulls which were basically already as suitable as almost any naval hulls at the time could be for reconfiguration as early Aircraft Carriers. Which would've set Britain back by up to a decade minimum, as the usually just as stingy US Congress forked out the bunce and manipulated the 1922 Washington Treaty provisions to convert the two even larger but also light, fast Lexingtons. Congress' incentive was they at least got to keep two huge, already extant hulls by doing so, but the Lexingtons did far more than just that for the USN. They catalysed evolution of interwar US carrier doctrine along very positive lines that were only accentuated further by the presence of a third smaller, much slower hull; the 1st US carrier conversion, USS Langley. In very similar fashion, these three British light ex battlecruisers were instrumental in allowing the RN to often draw quite analogous lessons. Also based much of the time on the contrasts between them and two other British conversions. The smallish, not very fast former liner, HMS Argus and the big but slow and heavy ex-battleship, HMS Eagle. Though also with the 1st purpose-designed yet still very far from ideal RN carrier too; HMS Hermes. Accordingly, both the US and UK processes led to the evolution of what eventually materialised, allowing in most cases for specific differences in national concerns re operation in particular regions, as the very successful WW2 era fleet carriers characteristic of each navy.
@bigsarge20856 күн бұрын
Crazy.
@vincentblancosoto14406 күн бұрын
Russians and ships generally don’t mix apparently
@ronaldrose75936 күн бұрын
How tragically sad.
@zev15006 күн бұрын
Ah finally a nice history shorts channel that isn't all AI
@ImportantHistory6 күн бұрын
Well, shorts are a small part of the channel! The main video that this short comes from is linked :) Edit: I don’t really look at shorts that much, are there really that many ai ones?
@zev15006 күн бұрын
@@ImportantHistory like you wouldn't believe, there are too many AI history videos it's like an infestation
@roanferguson88736 күн бұрын
Russians and ships generally don't mix apparently
@roanferguson88736 күн бұрын
Russians and ships generally don't mix apparently
@adarret6 күн бұрын
I wonder how many VLS cells could’ve fit on HMS Roberts… 🤔
@gma7296 күн бұрын
Great Vid. Super informative in a brief time. No problem 👍👍
@GM-fh5jp7 күн бұрын
Very nice presentation and commentary. With technology advancing so rapidly at that time the engineers and warship designers were pretty much making things up as they went. Naval engine technology also advanced quickly, as did communications and aircraft etc. With long lead times on capital ships it must have been a nightmare trying to anticipate and plan for ships that if not well thought out, could be obsolescent before they joined the fleet.
@happyhighway1067 күн бұрын
#22 HMS Furious was a good test bed for new technology. First, starting with a 18 inch gun. Which proved bad! Secondly, a aircraft launch vessel, which showed possibilities. Third, a Aircraft Carrier, which proved the need for such vessels. As new aircraft emerged, she proved her need and was an experiment in progress that led to modern Aircraft Carriers. She proved herself as the "Great Experiment" which made the Aircraft Carrier a new Capital Ship. Thank You! Well Done! Carry On!
@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn39357 күн бұрын
Reversed left to right photos are especially inappropriate with Aircraft Carriers. You show the island moved to the Port Side in the American refit picture at time 18:20. That could have been *_corrected_* in a few seconds of photo editing.
@ImportantHistory7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment, I’ll take it into consideration for future videos.
@Bismarck.18717 күн бұрын
A term created for political reasons. These ships were battlecruisers, just not well designed. Gun caliber was larger than in most battleships and speed far superior. On the downside armor was lacking and the number of barrels too few. Still, that doesn’t take away from what they were.