Thanks for an honest review , I think if you use an Chibson act a projekt guitar an d replace the hardware you will have a guitar that is close to a Gibson and that will be cheaper than a Epiphone , great video and thank s , now you got a new subscriber
@rf13162 күн бұрын
My tremolo is stamped Floyd Rose
@IracesGarage2 күн бұрын
Yeah, the newer ones seem to be.
@Amp_Expert3 күн бұрын
Appreciate the very detailed and thorough reviews! I was very surprised at the flaws in the actual Gibson and likewise the machining marks in the Epiphone, but suggested edges and setup of the Chibson were great! In MY experience, Gibson's are typically top shelf and setup and that's what you're paying for....but maybe something has happened recently?!?? The Epiphones typically do not have machining marks and rounded edges and set up well and are a good bang for one's buck...typiclaly...in my experience. I did a very, very thorough review of a Chibson Rhoads guitar. Typically, these are horrible in the setup and buzzing and sharp edges, and whatnot even if playable, so surprised your feedback was just the opposite. To get them really playable and in a comparable quality to Epiphone of Gibson, all of the electronics and pickups and tuners all need to be replaces, it needs a full fretjob and work on the edges and leveling, and polishing, bone nut installed and cut proper and so a $300 will need $800 in work and turn into an $1100 guitar and you're not supposed to resale, so the intention is to play indefinitely! Is it worthy to get a $1100 Chibson v. $1500 Epiphone?? Debateable. I would say absolutely not. Likewise, the weight is lighter and if you go into measuring the body and neck and things, you'll find they are completely wrong! In my opinion the only time it's worth it is on "specialty" guitars, like this Greeny, or the Rhoads guitar, or others like that and when an middle of the rad Epiphone may not be available and you can get NOS. It's either an $1100 VOS Chibson....or $10,000 Gibson and with all of the flaws of a current Gibson. Not worth it and WAY overpriced! My $0.02
@IracesGarage2 күн бұрын
Part of the problem is that there a million companies making Chibsons, so the quality is all over the place. Some are so bad that they don't even have a truss rod. Others are decently made. I did my homework before I bought this one and determined that this brand is one of the better options. It's made by the same company that makes Bad Cat guitars. Like with any type of guitar, if you take your time to find the better brands, you get much better results.
@Amp_Expert2 күн бұрын
@@IracesGarage Agreed. Some with really customize....like headstock graphics (call it...Robb's Beast") or will install an ABR-1 and thread right into the body, or like the VOS....do a pretty nice job at that! The connotation that they are exact duplicates of the Gibson is a misnomer. Like i said, try measuring body thickness, or length or width....try the headstock length or width at widest point. I did this and they are not to Gibson-spec!...just similar. Likewise, the weight and wood quality is questionable. They are very light in weight. Even when I added all of the brass and such as I able to get it into the like 8.5# range. Their playable, but nowhere near the quality of a Gibson or Epiphone and you have to put in labor and parts into them, but not out-of-the box regardless of supplier. It's easy enough for them to get the dimensions right, install better hardware and electronics and and do a proper setup for probably another $100 with cheap labor and you'd have a $350-500 guitar that actually was better than a $3500 Gibson out of the box, so wish they would focus on that and put Gibson out of business with their ridiculous pricing....$3500....$10,000 for a guitar!! Ridiculous.
@SteveAEee4 күн бұрын
Good comparison and well presented - cheers!
@ragsdirt34924 күн бұрын
I’m interested in them.
@ragsdirt34924 күн бұрын
Good job! Glad to see it. Let’s hear it.
@nyinfamous2k26 күн бұрын
Just picked this guitar up as a first guitar, so I know nothing about guitars. im a carpenter and like to tinker with things , so its cool to see how these come a part and the workings of it. I have a weird "rattle" at the head of the guitar, sounds like a ball bearing, I thought maybe it was something under that truss rod cover that was supposed to be there. after seeing you open yours , I know now that nothing should be rattling around in there.
@IracesGarage6 күн бұрын
It could be loose. Try tightening the nut just enough for it to have some tension. Other possibility is a loose tuner.
@nyinfamous2k26 күн бұрын
@@IracesGarage ill check that out , thanks for the info
@sboy19556 күн бұрын
Looks great!
@randallclemons86387 күн бұрын
I'm just gonna tell ya brother. I took a chance on chibson a few years ago. Got it on eBay. New. It was already in country. It was one of the last the seller had. They has been selling them for 370. I pulled the tigger on it for around 300. And I got lucky on it I think. I didn't get it because it said Gibson on the headstock. To be honest, I didn't know what was on the headstock until I got it. I figured, but I didn't know. I got it because it has the solid 59 mahogany neck. With no neck joint. And it looked really good. The exact color I always wanted. But wild have cost three times as much anywhere else. I didn't care about the rest. I had all kinds of parts. The bridge. I took the anchors out and grinded the Rodge off around them and a little of the metal off, so I could counter sink them into the guitar. A Gibson bridge post fits perfectly into them. I didn't have to, but I used just a tad of jb weld to make it all solid. But I didn't have to. So I got the Gibson bridge, and you can't tell. Without having to plug the wood and redrill. I had some of the high end Epiphone pro buckers, with alnico mags, with nice pots that I could split the coil. And some yellow mustard caps. The kind they used a long time ago. Just like in that Epiphone you showed. Just wanted something different. I have orange drops in others but this one, I used the mustard caps. But I'm going to make my own caps pretty soon. Just haven't gotten around to it. And the tuners, while I had Grovers i could have put on it. Real Grovers, guyker (glad I came back to fix typos. Autocorrect changed guyker to hilter. Wtf) actually makes really nice tuners, even though they don't cost alot. They are really nice and they had the kluson type. That look really good. And they tube really nice. And I wanted that look. So, I used those instead of the Grovers. Put changed the wires to the shielded and i shielded the cavities. I want to get a clear back plate so you can see inside. And I couldn't be happier. And im not gonna lie, it plays and sounds better than any other guitar I have. Wish I could show a picture. I got a truss cover, and put my own logo on it. Painted the edges bright white. And put a few coats of clear on it. I love it. And that is all that matters. But if people give me crap about it. I'll get a sticker that says "sucks" on it and stick it under the Gibson logo. Some say you should scratch it off. Thats nuts. It's my guitar. I can put whatever I want on it, anywhere I want. Any logo I wish. In understand Gibson being upset but not your average person. And Gibson should look at it as, just a sticker on a guitar, advertising their brand. If I got a fender or any other guitar and put a Gibson decal on the body, same thing. I understand them trying to stop it. But what is, is. And one day, even these fakes will have their place in history. Watch and see. The irony is, it was a fake gibson that saved Gibson. In the 80s. No one was buying Les Paul's. Until Guns n roses. Slash. And that guitar slash used on the first two albums, was a fake gibson Les Paul. True story. So, that advertising made Gibson alot of money. I also has a miniature holy bible, with illustrations, I hid it inside the with pots. Hahaha I have several reasons for that. But I love it. I'd never be able to afford the real thing. I have expensive guitars, but like the Gibson j50 i have, given to me. Some i just got lucky. But it's not like I can go out and give thousands of dollars for guitars all of the time. I have to leave them at a relatives home to keep them from getting stolen. And im glad I did. On September 28th, some asshole burned my house down while I was gone. I came home about 30 minutes after sunset and it was on fire. Now I'm homeless. My guitars are all I have now. Everything in my life, someone else has destroyed. It's really disheartening. It is really maddening. I have family who are mad at me because they think I'm rich, which I'm not. I barely get by. But I had a home. They made had decisions and and done have homes. But they get mad because "you won't share". Because I man has bills to pay. Then I have other fakoly and neighbors who group me in with those and think I'm trouble. Which I'm not. All I've ever done is help and be like to people. And now I beleive it was my kindness that caused me all my problems. One side, no matter what you give, it's never enough. So they hate you. The other side, you were kind to people they don't like, so you are one of them, and they hate you. All I ever wanted was a peacefull life. And you can tell by putting the bible in the guitar, I don't go around preaching but I do hold one belief from that book high in my life. Or at least I did. Treat people how you want to be treated. And all it's ever seem to bejng me is people hating me. Now I'm homeless and my health is getting bad. I have a video on my KZbin of my home burning. I was also in the 2022 Kentucky flood. I was in the water for ten hours, and watched two family members drown. And asshole go burn my home down. Like homes are easy to get. It wasn't much, but I owned it. Now, I'm just shit it luck. Because all I did was help people.
@klepetar7 күн бұрын
you have to try lollar pickups. yes...they are expensive..but wow...
@IracesGarage7 күн бұрын
I have a set in a Hamer. Great pickups, but the Greenybuckers are doing a very specific thing that I also like.
@joeballs56698 күн бұрын
great video....gibson quality and control sucks ! especially the fret work !
@kiillabytez8 күн бұрын
I believe replacing the junk parts on the replica will yield you a guitar that rivals Epiphone for a fraction of the cost of buying an Epiphone, so they are truly worth it, and as far as the branding is concerned, you should only be worried if you're trying to resell it, but if it's for your private collection, it really doesn't matter, so you can consider it a replica, not a counterfeit.
@sixbitsnigerino9 күн бұрын
I was lucky to snatch a Slash 4 - les paul. Cost 3200. Was ashamed for Gibsons behalf. Scratches on the rosewood, and even has a actual pin hole near the nut.also some bleeding onto the binding.. If it was any other than a very limited run, i would of returned it. Also a 2019 les paul voodoo . Lol. The way the fredboard has been FILED 😅. Amazingly terrible. Most of my Gibsons are from 90's. Soo diffrent than these new crappy shit.
@kent661910 күн бұрын
Great video, thanks!
@DarrenBaird-kw6lx13 күн бұрын
Buy a second hand standard get pad alnico pickup's and flip the front pickup magnet.
@IracesGarage12 күн бұрын
It will get you close, but the Greenybuckers have a unique sound even without taking the polarity into account.
@dancurtis46113 күн бұрын
I can't believe I just sat through an entire 40 minute review. I also can't believe the whole 40 minutes was meat and potatoes. Well done sir.
@dancurtis46113 күн бұрын
The main problem with Chibson is the difficulty ordering one without the name, logo & other markings. I bought a JP #2 and after changing hardware & electronics, it is absolutely smashing. It is much better than any epiphone in the shop. It cost me $250 + $500 in parts. I only wish it didn't have the name, logo & other markings.
@IracesGarage13 күн бұрын
Yeah, I feel the same way. It's why I covered the logo right away, but I'd rather it come with no logo at all. At least this one comes without a serial number, so it shouldn't actually fool anyone.
@jaxcrax13 күн бұрын
The quality of a Chinese craftmanship began to surpass the quality of the other country's craftsman early in the present century. "Firefly" will soon be a more prestigious than other names.
@IracesGarage13 күн бұрын
Yeah, I'm not sure I'm ready to go that far. I much prefer Indonesian, Korean, Japanese and American guitars for the most part. They may not be as good of a value, but they're generally higher quality.
@jassieblue14 күн бұрын
Why Review a illegal product?😢
@IracesGarage13 күн бұрын
Because I wanted to see how it compared to the real thing.
@myuncle214 күн бұрын
At least Gibson tells you they are using best Honduran Mahogany.
@rossitherhodie565914 күн бұрын
If it looks good and it sounds good, who cares if its not the real makoi and 99% of people wouldnt be able to tell the difference. If you a collector thats another story but Joe average Buy it for 100$ or Pounds and dont waste thousand of dollars pounds worrying if its real.Report them to who, Free enterprise buddy. Who's who going to charge them and for what.
@andrewcastillo955815 күн бұрын
Get a japan lawsuite les paul.. better then all them for the price. Cost more then an epi most the time but way less then the gibson.
@Dragon_rls17 күн бұрын
AND FOR OUR NEXT TOPIC... DEER HUNTING.
@Dragon_rls17 күн бұрын
I will say. It looks like they used a geometry tool on that relicing on the Chibby. Very artificial checking. For the record. I have a non reliced Chinese tele that I'm pretty pleased with.
@IracesGarage17 күн бұрын
I would have preferred the non relic model. In fact, every time I see someone post pics of their non-relic Chibson Greeny it makes me want to buy one, swap all the upgrades I made to this one over, and sell this one off.
@JerryWhite-ee5hy17 күн бұрын
I agree with all you surmises. Welp,it's official. Chibsons kicked the crap out of Gibson.....
@IracesGarage17 күн бұрын
Maybe. From a value perspective, absolutely, but I still like the Gibson the most. By a lot.
@mjr247019 күн бұрын
Why i wouldnt pay 3 thousand dollars for a guitar, that plek machine should not be an extra cost for a "quality" NAME BRAND GUITAR. Im honestly glad that other countries are humbling the big name companies. But will they up their game, ir just buy out the other manufactures and keep sticking it to us? Greed kills Y'all
@MatthewJacobDaniel21 күн бұрын
One of the very best guitar comparison reviews ever - excellent video. Thanks!
@DogGuy1921 күн бұрын
Nice work. Also, I thought I heard a new word, chatoyance, which I appreciate & looked up. Thanks for that as well. Enjoyed this, thanks for sharing. 😊
@IracesGarage21 күн бұрын
I think I learned the term from Trogly. It's definitely not something I use in day to day conversation 😆
@HanzGruber198221 күн бұрын
Your camouflaged mustache/goatee matches your hat. Nice.
@prattacaster21 күн бұрын
Whay the heck?!? You never played....what a joke
@IracesGarage21 күн бұрын
That's not what the video is about. It's about the build quality. There are plenty of greeny demos out there from better players than me. The Laz is modded and the pickups in the Chibson are throw-aways.
@gilbertocruz168322 күн бұрын
Everybody has the right to have a Greeny no matter social class 👍👍👍
@jasonl194214 күн бұрын
You can have anything you want in life if you work for it. That's how I got mine.
@jeffpagel817823 күн бұрын
owned a few epiphones over the years... and they were indeed beautiful. the problem i found was subpar pickups and cheaper electronics that failed quicker. The bodies also were 'dead' sounding. Had a few older gibsons that also weren't that great, but they were still better and felt better than the epiphones. my two latest gibsons - an '18 honeyburst tribute LP and '24 standard LP are absolutely incredible. Resonant body, quality throughout. That said, I doubt anybody in an audience would ever be able to pick out a gibby vs epi vs chibson.
@helio105523 күн бұрын
How does an Epiphone have better binding than a GIBSON???….
@IracesGarage22 күн бұрын
Because apparently their builders are more skilled than Gibson's.
@bpmangler23 күн бұрын
Excellent, objective review.
@ymelfilm24 күн бұрын
pretty impressive 2,1-2,3 kg weights! But they may be neck divers?? My IYV double F hole Tele had been a serious neck diver till I chopped the headstock! Here is the result: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eICYqXSafpKtgtEsi=Zo1fkfCrtFMonLdu
@normanclature849025 күн бұрын
The Gibson has binding nibs on the fret ends, the others don't. Those nibs will wear easier than the actual fret itself and possibly result in a much better feel years down the road. Small point but all adds up.
@IracesGarage24 күн бұрын
If your fret ends are dressed properly it should feel just as good. And with a properly rolled fingerboard you get that right away instead of needing to play it for 20 years
@AlHuerta26 күн бұрын
Why would you buy the Gibson if it has bad binding? Your fault for buying it dude 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@IracesGarage26 күн бұрын
I bought it online, and I'd rather keep an otherwise great instrument rather than roll the dice and wind up with an 11lb turd with a shit top. To that point, binding or not, I would have picked this off the rack and still chosen it based on that.
@suckatplaying8927 күн бұрын
Am I the only one that is not surprised that the chinese fake looks better and allegedly has the best fingerboard and fretwork (which, honestly, is 90% of what I look at in a guitar, as I can work around the rest). Specially considering the barely usable, over-plek'ed, shallow frets and scratchy dry fretboards Gibson are set on churning out these days.
@jerryjohnson242127 күн бұрын
great demo... I bought the new reliced full size van halen model... the a single coil in the neck and a pot in the middle.... to me my favorite humbucker is the 59 Seymour Duncan,, beautiful balance and sounds like a guitar on an album on a high end stereo
@jeffsousa39927 күн бұрын
And we wonder why Gibson is struggling??? It’s the quality control they have, that makes them worth the money!, so to speak. Instead, they spend 1M in Attorney fees, chasing copyright violations, from China.. Hey, maybe if you charged $1500, and had great quality, you wouldn’t have that issue, Gibson!! My brothers 72 Gold top Deluxe, was built like a tank, and had a brass nut, that had it have sustain for days!!! Amazing instrument, with almost perfect build quality, and 10LBS.. That is what you paid for then!!.. that’s the recipe for success
@conartist267Ай бұрын
Really wanted to hear them
@nevinjames4133Ай бұрын
I had an EVH Frankenstein but traded it for a Gibson Les Paul 60’s. Love the Les Paul more than the EVH. I didn’t feel like the EVH was worthy of its $2,000 price tag. I just ordered the FireFly this morning. It’s more in line with what I’d like to spend on one. Most of my guitars are Gibsons, Fenders and Carvins but I really wanted the Firefly for the look and the quality/ratio.
@Ibaneddie76Ай бұрын
Buy a Chibson and swap the tuners and pickups, save a few thousand dollars and have a great guitar!
@stuartkennedy4570Ай бұрын
I would send your Gibson back to Gibson for them to take care of the binding
@IracesGarageАй бұрын
There's nothing to take care of. Gibsons come with sharp binding.
@saltzineАй бұрын
:: great review 👌 :: came across your vid cause im lookin at getting an epiphone “inspired by gibson” korina v :: ive got a 64 chevy II & 4th gen camaro & bird
@markmiller8137Ай бұрын
Gibson is not as good as they once were they need quality control in the worst way. I sent my Les Paul back to be fixed and I still wasn't happy with it.
@CreelybladesАй бұрын
I have no problem including a cheap Chinese Les Paul style guitar, but including one that is stolen IP from China normalizes that fact, and that crime. There are plenty of Chinese Les Paul options from established companies, and there is no need to have to go and get a counterfeit and compare it to legitimate products. Besides the fact that it’s poor form, you could buy that guitar five different times and it could be five different quality levels built in five different factories and you would never know the difference because this is a black market product with no track record or established history.