Do you think this is bad or good ?

the enablers are the key , because Kaguya doesn't have the tools to actually generate resources making the cost 3 stock early on very hard , bang dream lacks the modern tools or combos to produce s good result , bang dream also has issues competing with modern decks, the way I see it is if you take out those tools , can the deck play reasonably in 2024, the answer is no, dont forget mob pyscho also has level 0 stock swap, but it dents matter as it can't use it efficiently pre level 3 and has a whole set of other issues

You would need to be able to be competent enough and the stock swap fumio is the extra , modern decks gain resources too efficiently compared to older decks so they take advantage of such mechanics with little effort

​@@WeissAncestor Is that overly true though? Kaguya can absolutely stock charge their way into an early stock swap, arguably better than slime can. Pretty much most decks could (if they had one) since they don't need to pay 3 for mjuran the next turn. (Since the first mjuran turn just replaces the stock spent). Sure, if the Mjurans sit uncontested, then it can quickly become out of control, but it's not like Slime is doing anything special pre-2 to enable the early swap, and even at 2, it's not really pushing more than 2/2/2 into this deckstate until they've already won on defence (Unlikely pre Mjuran). Likewise, i'd argue Kaguya and Bang Dream can absolutely present decent games with acceptable finishers (even after stock swap and/or fumio). Don't get me wrong, i think SDS and Slime are broken, but i think that's down to their resource generation (Liz brainstorm and Mjuran being so fat) over the fact they can access a 0 stock swap or stock swap and fumio. The flip side to this argument however, is that TSK is still winning events in japan, even with the hexproof ban.

@@steveEatsDamage but even if they can stock swap early, how does the turn after look, its not hard to get 3 stock, but can you stock swap, and then still play the game just fine if it does nothing ?, if your answer is yes, then my statement would be wrong and I underestimated Kaguya, i just dont think so cuz back in the day , they could not do it, and now the game is much faster and the decks they have to fight are much better, so doing it now is not going to work if it did not work back in the day

your statement "Don't get me wrong, i think SDS and Slime are broken, but i think that's down to their resource generation (Liz brainstorm and Mjuran being so fat) over the fact they can access a 0 stock swap or stock swap and fumio. " I agree with it as i call these the enablers , my point was because of the generation of resources is faster than when newer sets do it compared to older sets doing it, its why Konosuba who has the best versions of them still can't do much because in 2024 to play weiss you have to be okay with just eating 7+ damage and still be able to play the game, if you can't then your deck is not up to par, and that is where i put Bang dream and Kaguya, now for bang dream because of its utility is very good when the meta is uniform, with its tools it can' probably build an anti meta deck, but when it just fights a bunch of random strong decks in swiss, it will fail to win imo. Now if 7ds, slime and OVL were to go away , then probably bang dream has a small chance to take advantage but The issue is that it can' t perform a strong enough finisher and sculpt stock swap fumio every game , while 7ds can

Me, the triangle player

you can, there isn't a need at the moment i feel where it makes a difference , the mirror match or possibly escanor level 3 finisher from 7ds would be the only case where i see it necessary, i think that is player/ meta choice , it would not affect the flow of the deck

discord.gg/ntShN7t5

you can get it here , hopefully bushi doesn't come after me lol

@@WeissAncestor oh thank you. I already found the discord and the download link. But I appreciate your help :)

its going to get even better soon ! i have a lot planned !

yes let me add it

Deck code 2HVVS

ill translate this to deck log so I can get a better understanding of this deck and let you know what I find out

@@WeissAncestor Thank you.

English decks only , I won't be making videos on Japanese decks unless it has been announced already for English.

Deck code of the deck in Video 2HVVS

I guess we will see after houston :)

yes removed 2 level 0 maids and add 1 cx swapper and one promo bouncer

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@ thank you so much i might run this during my regionals :) any advice for a newbie?

now i guess everyone will be running bouncers to out Shana :D

Unfortunately, Ichika's bouncer relies on hitting the RNG check. But we do play 4 copies of it. Gotta hit one eventually.

ill take a look at it once im back in town!

now looking , give me 24 hours to analyze this for you.

@@elSepulvedaxD do you have a list that you are currently trying ?

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Thanks !

Uncle Cousin on TCG just made a seller account. Once it’s finished being reviewed it inventory should be able to be seen👍

Haha

Thanks man!

@ you are not Support

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Makes sense , I guess when i said " like the Sora player" but i forgot that Ino can't call herself out so what you said makes perfect sense as you will just put them down 1 turn at a time. Thanks for Clarifying !

I am actually working on that now so I can push out a video once its out , So far you 100% take out the level 1 Door Combo, but I am trying to make the rest of the deck more consistent before I can answer what else to use.

That does make sense , I think your fine if you have at least 4 yellow , with the drop searcher you can swap out the level zone. But yeah, if you were to add Millim in the deck then you would have to move around rations