Who else arrived here to re-arm themselves after debating politics with a friend?
@cringefromprojectgaming40642 күн бұрын
It depends I like when scientists are open to discussion and willing to try a theory or hypothesis even if it is unlikely or potentially flawed but what we run into mostly in the scientific community is a hubris in assuming that all or proven methods are absolute when we are not even sure we are asking the right questions yet
@TCook-d3s2 күн бұрын
Great video. Trusting science funded by big business with an agenda isn’t easy.
@C-Dub4872 күн бұрын
Science seems to be your religion.
@Wally-jw6bh2 күн бұрын
Religion is faith without evidence. Science is belief with evidence.
@leshoban36482 күн бұрын
Funny how often you hear this after the COVID lockdown. Here’s a question for “science”. We were all taught what a vaccine is, it immunized us (or at a high percentage) from said threat,take polio, for example. The COVID “vaccine” didn’t immunize anyone but the government and media incorrectly stated it would. So the actual definition was changed during this time. My question is, why is it anti science to ask questions about this and many other questions, why were doctors and scientists who pointed out these “ discrepancies” kicked off of social media and ridiculed??? Is asking questions anti science? Anti Vaccine?
@wpgoodsonify2 күн бұрын
Can't trust science when it is politically motivated. Which happens to be the way it has been for a while now. Science leans toward whomever is funding it.
@JaneQPublic2 күн бұрын
The gaslighting of this video is next level. To paraphrase- if you don’t believe what “scientists” tell you or accept consensus as fact then you’re emotional and ignorant. Most “scientific studies” are funded by interest parties and of those studies over 75% found favorable results to the funding party- that ain’t science sis, that I called pay for play and that is unethical to the nth degree.
@andrewearl89262 күн бұрын
I deny "The Science TM". Especially when discussion isnt allowed and primary sources are not public.
@history69882 күн бұрын
Experimentation is a huge part of science.
@melanie_meanders10 күн бұрын
say it again for the people in the back!!!! ❤
@camwin712 күн бұрын
If you get fireflies, they also lay eggs in fallen leaves!
@ChaiLatte6412 күн бұрын
Well said. 👏❤ I'm a lepidopterist and it breaks my heart every year to walk around my neighborhood in the winter and see all the demolished ecosystems... most moths and butterflies overwinter as eggs under leaves and dry flower heads. All of their work they did all summer is wiped out. 💔
@ThinkingPowers12 күн бұрын
@@ChaiLatte64 Me, too! I’m an ecologist and I feel like I’m watching an arthropod massacre this time of year. People just don’t know…
@barbarawitt998912 күн бұрын
Not only does this protect the living things, leaving the leaves and plant material protect the crowns of the plants and the roots too!
@WB4553213 күн бұрын
I think the overall concept of your course and this toolkit in particular are phenomenal, as well as, frankly, a crucial potential antidote to the current epidemic of misinformation in which we find ourselves! But, I do have one humble suggestion for this introductory video. For a lot of the people I encounter for whom I believe this methodology would be most useful (as well as foreign!), evolution is the hot button issue. Having that particular scientific theory included in this video, which is so early in the course, will, I fear, cause defense mechanisms to be activated and learning to cease before it has really begun. I would recommend substituting something in its place that is as well supported but might be less triggering. Sadly, that might be hard to find these days, but there must be something! Thank you again for the effort you have put into developing this program. This work is critical!
@ThinkingPowers12 күн бұрын
@@WB45532 I understand your concern, and I typically try to avoid triggering issues for that very reason. In this case, the video is largely intended for science classes, so I made an executive decision to include evolution. (It’s the single most unifying and supported theory in all of the life sciences.) Thanks for your comment. :)
@WB4553212 күн бұрын
@@ThinkingPowers That makes sense, but I wonder if you might consider designing a course that is not intended primarily for science classes? Here's where I'm coming from. I live in the Deep South and attend a Southern Baptist church, despite significant disagreement with a lot of what is taught, because my family and community are there. This is more common than it might seem! The vast majority of people I come in contact with on a daily basis do not believe that evolution is "... the single most unifying and supported theory in all of the life sciences." Quite the opposite! They are far more likely to subscribe to the teachings of organizations like the Discovery Institute or people like Dr. James Tour, who says that science is "clueless" on the origin of life, there is no evidence for evolution, and it is all essentially a conspiracy to eliminate God from society. However, if I were to ask any of these same people whether they believe critical thinking is an important skill, they would all say yes. As you have explained in many of your interviews, people generally believe they are thinking rationally and hold reasonable beliefs, whether that is actually the case or not. What is needed is an agreed upon toolkit, as you have developed, that can be used to objectively validate, or maybe more importantly, invalidate beliefs. Not to put too fine a point on it, but if this video did not mention evolution, I could easily share it with many of these people with whom I regularly interact and get immediate buy-in on the methodology, as this is what they believe they are already doing! The problem is the next step, the application, but we can't get there if we can't agree on a framework. So, that's what I am searching for. I really like what you have developed, but, unfortunately, can't quite use it due to that one little detail!
@uncleanunicorn457114 күн бұрын
Kitty is in on the global conspiracy. You can't prove me wrong.
@CraigGood15 күн бұрын
There are two kinds of people in the world: Those who sort the world into two groups, and those who don't.
@seans489315 күн бұрын
This is so fantastic. And so true. Even though us skeptics and critical thinkers are a small voice. Please keep up the good work.
@ThinkingPowers15 күн бұрын
@@seans4893 Thank you! :)
@SolSystemDiplomat15 күн бұрын
Conspiratorial thinking is fun though!! Well, it can be fun. Kinda like Halloween… you don’t think those monsters are real but you’ll put on the suit for the evening!!
@chrisfogedlee705916 күн бұрын
no conspiratorial, just means a number of people have got together and made plans together! (conspiring together) The fact she is lying proves she is trying to hide something, now the question is what she is trying to hide and whom she is conspiring with to sell this lie to the world...
@TheSoyestToEverSoy22 күн бұрын
"That which is asserted without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence," thank you Christopher Hitchens 🥲
@dannylevy22 күн бұрын
I love your videos, and always look forward to them. If I may a suggestion: can you use a better microphone or one closer to you please. The sound on your videos are not loud and clear enough. Thank you again.
@ThinkingPowers22 күн бұрын
@@dannylevy Thanks for your comment. I’m really struggling with sound. I have to find a way to fix it. :(
@Sentientism24 күн бұрын
Great overview thanks! Most importantly all of these plants (and funghi) are extremely unlikely to be sentient - which is why they're the only things we should really be farming. Let's shorten our trophic chains - it's about choosing what we eat :) instead of choosing who we eat :(
@Michael_May_Legacy27 күн бұрын
Thank you for creating this channel. I learn things, here! Mike And I think your hair is lovely! ❤
@Volkbrecht27 күн бұрын
Why call it fallacy? For the most part, ad hominem is used quite intentionally to avoid having to deal with the argument, it's not a type of flawed logic. And as an arguing strategy, it's not even necessarily wrong. When you debate in front of an audience, you don't try to convince the other speaker, you want to get the audience on your side. If you can convince them that you are more worthy listening to than the other speaker, that's a win.
@Rallink26 күн бұрын
Counterpoint: I think your comment means you care more about winning arguments than being correct, therefore you're not trustworthy when it comes to things being true and your point must be wrong. I just used it on you. If it's not a fallacy, I'm therefore right about that statement, and if it is a fallacy, then your point is disproven by contradiction.
@SIS3W3N26 күн бұрын
Logical fallacies come from formal logic, not the Ben Shapiro school of debate. Logic doesn't care what the audience thinks. That kind of the whole point.
@Volkbrecht26 күн бұрын
@@SIS3W3N But speakers care what audiences think. And audiences don't necessarily care about facts, even if the people they are made up of may claim differently. Which means that a one on one discussion that you may enter with a genuine interest to learn and/or teach follows different rules than a public debate. So my point remains valid: don't lump in a dirty rhetoric technique with logical fallacies. Those are different things.
@SIS3W3N26 күн бұрын
@@Volkbrecht That first paragraph is entirely irrelevant. No one is lumping anything in. The ad hominem is a logical fallacy. This isn't a matter of taste. It's how things are. Terms have meanings.
@Volkbrecht25 күн бұрын
@@SIS3W3N So humor me, reflect on the meaning of the term "fallacy". I'm not a native speaker, but according to my favorite online dictionary that translates into a German word roughly meaning drawing a wrong conclusion, or thinking you know something you are wrong about ("Trugschluss"). Ad hominem arguments are not that. I can engage in those fully aware of what I'm saying. I don't even necessarily need to be dishonest when I do. As in: you may or may not have a point, but since I noticed certain things about you, I don't trust you or your intentions, based on my personal experience.
@CraigGood28 күн бұрын
I think that you, Dr. Stea, and I have each been ad hom'd for our hair multiple times. I always find that one so lazy.
@ThinkingPowers28 күн бұрын
@@CraigGood Agreed. If someone resorts to mocking my hair I assume they don’t have an actual argument.
@dancevideo2Ай бұрын
I admit I often hit "like" on content from my favorite sources even before watching the whole thing, but I'll claim it's not a hasty generalization when I've already seen enough from the source to have gained confidence in the quality. In general I notice people advocating for an idea often seem to expect their audience to generalize from what might be just a single and highly selected example, but if the idea feels right, that expectation is often met.
@PeterEhmАй бұрын
Thank you for making these shorter explanations for common argument tricks often encountered online. 👍😊
@vickisnemeth7474Ай бұрын
"The only reason this person has the symptoms on the list of depression symptoms must be because they have clinical depression."
@CraigGoodАй бұрын
So you're saying that we should just never bother arguing at all?
@ThinkingPowersАй бұрын
@@CraigGood 🤣
@mitchelsnodgrass7028Ай бұрын
One of the best Socrates quotes: "Knowing that you know nothing is true knowledge". I love your channel and you are awesome
@ThinkingPowersАй бұрын
@@mitchelsnodgrass7028 😊
@djacobmadrigalАй бұрын
An example would be when Donald Trump who thinks he’s a know it all said or implied that he knew more about the Coronavirus more than Dr Faucci. I’m going to believe a scientist over a politician any day of the week.
@Junius24Ай бұрын
Finally, a good explanation. An authority and an expert is not the same. Expert consensus can change over time with new information and better analysis, but it's still the best argument at any given point in time.
@frankr29Ай бұрын
I'd love your comment on this: In 1994 an international agreement (UNFCCC) stipulated that GHG concentrations must remain at safe levels. In 1995 the IPCC ignored this requirement and shifted the goal to reduced emissions, which allows concentrations to rise to unsafe levels That's why we're now in deep climate trouble. The IPCC is authoritative as an organization, and virtually all climate scientists accept its assertions. My question: if some cites the IPCC in defending emissions reductions as the correct climate policy, is this a fallacious appeal to authority?
@lorenzkraus6888Ай бұрын
There's no global warming on a flat earth. Thus, no need for British UN climate taxes/carbon taxes/de-industrialization. The British will never be happy until everyone is forced to wipe their a$$ with their bear hands.
@tdhowardАй бұрын
This is great! Love the clear and concise presentation.
@melanietrecek-king7503Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@tdhowardАй бұрын
@@melanietrecek-king7503 A video I would LOVE to see: Walking through how to handle these fallacies when encountering them in actual conversations. My 14yo daughter sometimes just blurts out, "That's a genetic fallacy!", which doesn't always go over very well.
@ThinkingPowersАй бұрын
@@tdhoward Ha! I bet not! I’ll think on that video idea. :)
@Mahmood42978Ай бұрын
"Expert consensus" can also be an appeal to authority fallacy.
@CalumCarlyleАй бұрын
I still think there's a problem with this. In particular, the consensus among scholars is often formed mainly by those without actual expertise, but with relevant qualifications in the field far more than the rest of us. So then historical and cultural bias will then form a big part of that consensus and it is treated within the academy as though it were a true expert consensus. Certain areas are considered done with, and a scholar that starts to unpick those areas will risk their livelihood and reputation. Because of this, appeals to authority and consensus do not carry much weight with me, because it's just trusting a well educated human being and all of their biased and preconceptions are being smuggled in under cover of their PHd. I did think this was maybe a ln issue mainly confined to my own field of interest which is history of religion, but spending two minutes thinking about the development of physics over the past two centuries shows me this is a problem that applies across the board.
@ericmckenny6748Ай бұрын
Hello! I can see I’m going to return to this channel when I get the chance. I really need to brush up on verbal reasoning.
@ThinkingPowersАй бұрын
@@ericmckenny6748 😊
@tobyfitzpatrick3914Ай бұрын
Politics trumps science and truth.
@logofreetvАй бұрын
This video is okayyyyyy, but there are too many instances in history of the so-called 'consensus' being wrong and so-called 'experts' not willing to call it out for either fear or greed, to ignore that factor. Sometimes experts in other fields can legitimately call out basic errors of methodology because they have nothing to lose either way, but those in the field DO.
@tomfrombrunswick7571Ай бұрын
The reality is most dialogue are appeals to authority. So if I go to a doctor he may say that I should take an asthma preventative. Normally I would say fine. That is because we assume that there is a academic consensus about treatment and he is familiar with it. In day to day life we make huge numbers of decisions based on an appeal to authority. Smoking is bad for health, exercise is good it is best to avoid processed food. However there are times when we may wish to dispute the authority. The reality is that something is not true because someone says it but we actually rely on their knowledge. One occasion we may challenge authority is if we think the underlying knowledge is wrong. We then challenge someone to prove something independent of their status. One example of this is Gary Habermas and his minimal facts argument. He says that there is an academic consensus about some facts of Jesus life amongst Bible scholars. Their may be. But there may be reasons to suggest that Bible scholars are not really good sources. They in practice sign documents of faith which destroy any suggestion of academic independence
@TheCompleteGuitaristАй бұрын
Experts have been known to lie. And be wrong. and .... Argumentum ad populum is a thing in the "scientific community". I think someone needs to read Dr Sowell's <<The Vision of the Anointed>>
@yuminsama1301Ай бұрын
i liked watching this video because a while ago i watched another one, talking about the hiatihi people, more oftenly called 'piraha', and, in the video, the creator was citing the people as a 'tribe'. i said 'tribe' is a racist term and that they should have used the endonym rather than the exonym, to show respect not only to the hiatihi people but to all indigenous peoples in general. i used an indigenous man as a back-up for my argument, since he not only studies sociology but also is an indigenous person and i cited a more recent general consensus that is growing in sociology towards the word 'tribe' being racist. they've said my argument was fallacious, specifically the appeal to authority fallacy. i was a bit confused because generally the appeal to authority is only brought up to talk about irrelevant people being mentioned and not, literally, one of the people the word targets and that studies the relations of society on indigenous people.
@TheCompleteGuitaristАй бұрын
Explain why tribe is "racists" because it is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
@yuminsama1301Ай бұрын
@@TheCompleteGuitarist it is because it implies an idea of cultural evolution ('evolution' here meaning exclusively 'improvement'). 'tribe' is only used to refer to small groups of people, usually hunter-gatherers, never used to describe monumentalistic cultures. the usage of the term is being criticised recently because it follows the cultural evolution mythology, which, in almost all cases, defines sofistication in the parameters of western/european societies. and you don't need to be a rude person, fella. you can just ask for an explanation without being so aggressive like that lmaoo
@TheCompleteGuitaristАй бұрын
@@yuminsama1301 it only implies because you want it to. So therefore the bias is totally on you.
@yuminsama1301Ай бұрын
@@TheCompleteGuitarist on a video about logical fallacies, you came up to me asking for a reason, which i gave, only for you to say that the bias is in me because i am giving the word the meanings i listed. god, i wish i had this power in society kkkk
@dannylevyАй бұрын
This was a great video. And one I watched over and over.
@ThinkingPowersАй бұрын
@@dannylevy Thank you!
@dannylevyАй бұрын
More true and valid today than ever before. I enjoy your videos very much.
@ukwernaАй бұрын
i wish people would learn this in school...if this had happened over the last 30 years we d be in a very different place, timeline even
@spiph23Ай бұрын
Excellent video, thanks!
@melanietrecek-king7503Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@wardeggerrobertmarius144Ай бұрын
1:90 😂😂 logic is a stranger to you🤦 Strong consensus is not a valid argument. Just a few centuries ago there was a strong consensus that Earth is flat and poisoned in the center of the universe.... 😂😂😂😂 Basically you equated being "expert" with being right, being "an authority in the field"😂🤦 If 99 doctors say you have cancer, don't they have to prove it?🤷
@yuminsama1301Ай бұрын
well, i get what you said, but she was talking about scientific evidence-based strong consensus. like, real evidence being proven and believed. your point is very valid though.
@TheCompleteGuitaristАй бұрын
@@yuminsama1301 <<scientific evidence-based strong consensus>> There is no such thing. Consensus does not make evidence based science any stronger. As Einstien said when the Nazis refuted his authority with a consensus, that it would only take one scientist to prove him wrong.
@yuminsama1301Ай бұрын
@@TheCompleteGuitarist i have no genuine clue on what you intended with this comment, like, honestly. i never said common consensus gives in the credibility of an evidence-based science conclusion, if that's what you meant.
@wardeggerrobertmarius144Ай бұрын
The appeal to authority is indeed a logical fallacy.... First of all is caused because people don't understand words 😂🤷 What is the definition of authority? The quality of logic depends on the quality of the premises. For example "a politician is not an expert in climate change" why? Is the job you have that determines what you know? Or is it what you study?🤷 For example I have a high university degree in mechanical engineering. I worked as a taxi driver for a while. That means that all my knowledge about engineering, magically vanished in that period?🤷 Logic it's not as easy to master as some people believe 🤷 Ps Also I always had a high interest in psychology... If I have engineering official studies it means I can't learn philology, or the streets in a city?🤷
@yuminsama1301Ай бұрын
@@wardeggerrobertmarius144 what?? you're literally filling up your comment with the strawman fallacy now lol. "if i've worked with taxis, i've lost all my degrees? 🤓" obviously no. this wasn't the point of no one here. the appeal to authority, in, like, almost all cases, envolves an irrelevant authority. when she said politians aren't experts in climate change, she was refering the politians that aren't experts on it. i thought it was already obvious... and i also agree that there are people with degrees that use their diplomas to prove their biases, but it is still true to the point made in the video: trust the general consensus of the field, and, in the small letters: the general consensus proven by the scientific method.
@auroreinara7322Ай бұрын
A fallacy I haven't heard of, thanks!
@markprice748Ай бұрын
Deep down we are all pragmatists. The body ( and even less the mind/consciousness/ soul/ ego or whatever) does not know for sure ''what is true''. Fortunately it does not have to. It just has to act according to what is ''true enough to keep us alive''. :)
@mitchelsnodgrass7028Ай бұрын
You are projecting and making some massive assumptions! You are approaching this topic solely from what seems like a basic evolutionary perspective. Also, you just listed four different things: the mind, consciousness, soul, and ego are each easily and clearly definable as distinctly different from one another!
@mitchelsnodgrass7028Ай бұрын
There are also objective, observable truths that can be tested and verified to have the same answer or result 100% of the time. I understand where you're coming from, but it is more complicated and nuanced than you are giving it credit for.
@BiggerThanFrogsАй бұрын
This was an excellent interview, thought-provoking, challenging and encouraging. Loved that you both had the humility to learn from each other. Thanks so much for sharing.
@ThinkingPowersАй бұрын
@@BiggerThanFrogs What a wonderful compliment. Thank you. 😊