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@redbluegreen1062
@redbluegreen1062 6 сағат бұрын
Doesn't philips first skill require him to be primary in front of a dps?
@seanorr5105
@seanorr5105 2 күн бұрын
I think ill use my commander swap on Phillip and put him behind ZL. I don't think hermann is actually that good especially for me my only other skill damage is cav but they might not even be after next cycle...
@christophersmith9349
@christophersmith9349 2 күн бұрын
What about with Flavus? I play anti-swarm Garson. The amount of damage that Flavus can do.
@Busdriver3092
@Busdriver3092 2 күн бұрын
You're talking about as a garrison? I feel at this point the ultimate anti swarm garrison is something that involves Choe....
@christophersmith9349
@christophersmith9349 2 күн бұрын
@ I’m just curious because I have played a lot of flav , just thinking about damage out put
@chuyh3051
@chuyh3051 3 күн бұрын
I like this kind of videos 👌🏻
@zkx2417
@zkx2417 3 күн бұрын
Yes i feel like Liu Che Philip would work just as well maybe a bit better then Alex. And the thing is you’re getting more value in the murderball from Philip. So imagine everyone switched Alex to Philip. And that kd would trade very well.
@e.p.3900
@e.p.3900 3 күн бұрын
Feel like he would be real good at cheeseburgering with his 30% damage and instaproc.
@calming_cat
@calming_cat 3 күн бұрын
about Phillip as primary, if you use 2-3 points on rejuvenate and the expertise trigger, the skill cycle will become 6s and it's shorter than the cooldown of the expertise. While if you use him as secondary for a commander like Liu Che, the expertise will have more chance to trigger so you might use active skill nearly as much as primary. I'm curious to see if using only 1 point on rejuvenate and instead using more points elsewhere for Phillip would make him do better or worse than 2 - 3 points.
@anwarmhd81
@anwarmhd81 3 күн бұрын
why there is no mulan in here? they could work as a buffing march, no?
@Ffhhfhggv
@Ffhhfhggv 3 күн бұрын
Shajar baby!!!
@zaiminnosi2905
@zaiminnosi2905 2 күн бұрын
People sleep on Shajar because True Damage has poor early reception but they don’t see that Philips provides 18% boost to healing from his talent tree. Besides, he gives 70% damage boost from his kits meanwhile Shajar gives tankiness. I this will shock everyone like LC/Alex.
@sharbandarrimau8448
@sharbandarrimau8448 3 күн бұрын
Use the best Philip needs to be in front and the equipment of Leadership, Armament Echelon right?!🧐🤔🫡
@Busdriver3092
@Busdriver3092 3 күн бұрын
@@sharbandarrimau8448 I think no
@hamaakocher5798
@hamaakocher5798 3 күн бұрын
The question is, does philip makes the march more tanky?
@zkx2417
@zkx2417 3 күн бұрын
Yes if its a infantry it gives it 35% defense. Archers 35% health. Also his skill cycles make u take less dmg
@hamaakocher5798
@hamaakocher5798 2 күн бұрын
@zkx2417 then in that sense, he is best to be used with zhuge, and then we need another comparison, is philip/zhuge or zhuge/hermann better for field? Since archers are main targets, if philip becomes more tankier and we take advantage of his buffs while zhuge does his aoe, then i would say zhuge/philip is best to be used.
@zkx2417
@zkx2417 2 күн бұрын
@ well philip zhuge wont be as good as Zhuge philip. U need zhuge primary so he has a better chance of recasting his active. And archers tree is better then leadership for dps and archer stats. Also skill tree.
@prasannabalaji1886
@prasannabalaji1886 3 күн бұрын
Max him with swap event and use him in canyon
@KND.7482
@KND.7482 3 күн бұрын
hahaha in the commander changer you only have old conquest season commanders to really exchange, if it could be exchanged for new commanders it would be cheating
@pokerchannel6991
@pokerchannel6991 3 күн бұрын
lamest game ever invented. trash game. gad dam lame
@lizardjesus3060
@lizardjesus3060 2 күн бұрын
What happened? I remember you for Long time always commented on rok videos. How come you don't like the game now ?
@everAU2
@everAU2 2 күн бұрын
Did you experience Crystal tech finally?
@mr_george_6178
@mr_george_6178 3 күн бұрын
zzz zzzz zzz
@darylrailean441
@darylrailean441 4 күн бұрын
I like the different perspectives...clear and easy to follow you. ❤
@Jfjfjw8
@Jfjfjw8 4 күн бұрын
Where do you think Alex should go in a 3 inf setup? Running liu wallace, guan scip, and Ragnar Alex rn
@e.p.3900
@e.p.3900 4 күн бұрын
Who’s more important to expertise first. Liu che or Ragnar prime
@sehzademustafa8847
@sehzademustafa8847 4 күн бұрын
Lie chue
@xDread
@xDread 4 күн бұрын
LC
@avskilda
@avskilda 4 күн бұрын
An easy and consistent way to check the value of attack vs other stats in the open field is war runes brother, no need to have a whale full send into attack gear. 7/7 attack defense rune > 10 heath rune
@calming_cat
@calming_cat 4 күн бұрын
About the attack stats, I had one player in my kd went for the attack stats with cavalry equipments for xy nevsky. It was around the time nevsky was released, there were no formation, no iconic tier 2+ back then. He had like 280% att, but low def and hp. It went terrible for him. he said even when xy nevsky wasn't targeted, that march still had to return home every 15s from aoe dmg. If they are targeted, it went down so fast that even xy still couldn't use active skill once. I think for a melee march a balance between dmg and tankiness is important, better than all in on attack or all in on def and hp.
@cm52311
@cm52311 4 күн бұрын
I suspect the main reason running your bigger damage dealer first looks better in the reports manager is because you are not always going to stay connected for the extra 2 seconds it takes to get the second commander to fire their active skill. For me that is not enough reason to run it in what is shown to be the worse configuration when running controlled tests. Maximizing your field fighting efficiency takes more skill then a lot of people realize.
@Busdriver3092
@Busdriver3092 4 күн бұрын
@@cm52311 staying connected is one but in general the bigger skill hitting first also weakens the enemy faster from doing damage to you.
@cm52311
@cm52311 4 күн бұрын
@@Busdriver3092 in a dualling sense that could be true, but in a ball fight not so much. Majority of the time the march you are hitting isn't targeting you in a big ball fight.
@xDread
@xDread 4 күн бұрын
The big advantage for running AOE primary commanders when ball fighting is to avoid dropping rage and losing skills between targets. Targets get swarmed and die very quickly in ball fights. When your target dies, you will leave combat and reset your rage - unless you have dealt damage to or taken damage from a different march within 5 turns. With a single target primary commander like WW, you'll have situations where: you drag your marches back and forth between safety and enemy targets you build up enough rage to fire WW and your other primary commanders' skills your target gets blown up and dies WW gets kicked out of combat you lose LC's queued active skill With an AOE primary like LC, if you hit other enemies with your AOE skill, you'll remain in combat with those enemies for another 5 seconds even if your target dies. You can target a new enemy to fire your secondary's queued skill. Using an AOE primary almost guarantees that when you are able to build up enough rage to fire 1 skill, you will get 2 skills off.
@KnightErrant-hc5sk
@KnightErrant-hc5sk 4 күн бұрын
Couldn’t agree more on the value of instant proc damage. The amount of value you get from that firing occasionally in those quick engagements where someone pulls back before an active skill cycle is insane when multiplied over an entire KvK.
@MyMarius87
@MyMarius87 4 күн бұрын
mate exactly what my question was gonna be. isnt liu che -Phillip an upgrade for your 5 march over alex
@Busdriver3092
@Busdriver3092 4 күн бұрын
@@MyMarius87 without testing….id lean towards yes but the question is if you can get a bigger upgrade deploying him over another commander of another troop type. So for example I run ZL/Boudica. Is Philip over Boudica a bigger upgrade over Alex?
@MyMarius87
@MyMarius87 4 күн бұрын
@@Busdriver3092 for sure it is. Boudica is hated by the whole community and everyone that used her .:) . for me there's no other choice. its either alex out or no PHillip but im at 1300 sculptures before commander swap.
@shphu
@shphu 4 күн бұрын
oh LC Philip should be meta
@13redlion13
@13redlion13 4 күн бұрын
12:50 just a comment for your stats, as you only used Zhuge/Hermann at the end of Kvk, that is when generally the weaker and more casual players are out of ressources and speeds, so there are mostly whales on the field.
@fernandogomes3787
@fernandogomes3787 4 күн бұрын
Has anyone tested Pyrrhus primary LC secondary?
@Busdriver3092
@Busdriver3092 4 күн бұрын
@@fernandogomes3787 I don’t think it’d be good. But I do think LC/Pyrrhus is probably the best march that nobody talks about
@fernandogomes3787
@fernandogomes3787 4 күн бұрын
@Busdriver3092 I wish his relic was normal damage and not skill
@mattmattah7740
@mattmattah7740 4 күн бұрын
Philip's best pairing will be LC. Zhuge will be the second best. Been saying it since Philip's teaser: He has 3 strengh - instant proc - double cast - buff linger till primary's next active IF primary has a rage engine and philip triggered a double cast Only LuChe can make use of those 3 strengh as he has combo attack (rage engine + synergy with instant proc) and one of the best active skill to double cast (if not the best). Zhuge has rage engine and one the best active skill to double cast but no synergy with the instant proc sadly. But if you are not ready to drop Alex, Zhuge is probably the best pairing for philip (Btw Philip is NOT a better Trajan, he is a better Alex. They have litteraly the same kit)
@hamaakocher5798
@hamaakocher5798 4 күн бұрын
I love it when u infa guys just talk about so many options while we cav players are deep in shit
@kureha6663
@kureha6663 4 күн бұрын
Bruh us infantry had to go through periods of drought for a long time you cavs are experiencing just a fraction plus the next cav should be op
@hamaakocher5798
@hamaakocher5798 4 күн бұрын
@kureha6663 should is another form of lilith screwing us, hopes and dreams with lilith doesnt work anymore 🤣
@cm52311
@cm52311 4 күн бұрын
welcome to the hell inf players were in for over a year while cav players were getting everything.
@gabrielsimoes1730
@gabrielsimoes1730 4 күн бұрын
I think Alex+LC is actually a stronger march compared to LC+Alex, but its problem is more contextual. When you use LC+Alex, the enemy thinks it’s a tanky march / it’s not the first priority / the player is not new. Now, when the enemy sees an Alex march, everyone just jumps to kill it, because it’s squishy / player probably new and unequipped. It’s tough to get overall good kdp with a focused march.
@mohammadsn8677
@mohammadsn8677 4 күн бұрын
Not true Even in dot mode nobody see and care who is primary
@Busdriver3092
@Busdriver3092 4 күн бұрын
@@gabrielsimoes1730 this is why I have stressed the reports manager. In duels Alex/LC wins. Field reports, it’s not even close.
@Itsajourneything
@Itsajourneything 4 күн бұрын
I dont have herman. Want put philip behind zhuge
@vincenzo4630
@vincenzo4630 5 күн бұрын
so do you think is better to wait to craft leadership gear ?
@vincenzo4630
@vincenzo4630 5 күн бұрын
btw my idea was to use him as primary with liu che
@Busdriver3092
@Busdriver3092 5 күн бұрын
@@vincenzo4630 don’t craft leadership equipment instead of troop specific equipment unless it’s a few pieces for archer…..or you are specifically running mixed troops like garrison or Trajan. Also, I’m pretty confident that he would fit much better with LC as a secondary than primary
@vincenzo4630
@vincenzo4630 3 күн бұрын
Okk i'll wait. The idea behind crafting of leadership set was that in case i can switch pairings for him in case there will be a better pairings in the future and another reason Is for Hera as garrison
@zkx2417
@zkx2417 5 күн бұрын
Honestly this is a very interesting video, that opened up my brain lol
@carson5162
@carson5162 5 күн бұрын
im a low spender who just hit t5 in soc. Only exp commander I have to trade with is ysg. Right now I run Nevsky/Joan5215, Scipio5551/LC5552. I have ZL unlocked at 1111 but no Hermann which I would really rather swap over ZL bc as a weaker geared player I need speed. Even if I trade for ZL, I have no archer gear nor a commander to put behind him. I think before archer march I would even rather have a siege march. What do you think I should do with the event? (have no gh rn all go to LC)
@Busdriver3092
@Busdriver3092 5 күн бұрын
@@carson5162 Max LC. If new cav comes out and it’s good then swap the one it doesn’t fit with for the new cav. (Like swap Nevsky or for new cav to pair with Joan). Then you should be in a place to max the new archer to pair with YSG.
@siongkianlim
@siongkianlim 5 күн бұрын
End game , debuffs n health is king 👑
@AzzamAbuJbara
@AzzamAbuJbara 5 күн бұрын
19:06 for me stats priority is health , attack then defense
@catchyourdrift
@catchyourdrift 5 күн бұрын
Players should consider conditional stats, buffs or debuffs and its duration when choosing for primary🤔
@Freeze4545
@Freeze4545 5 күн бұрын
Love the content Bro, as a new player (kvk4) have been contemplating value of attack and commander combinations in regards to actual fighting/dancing. We all need to evaluate our own specific playing style and time online to determine which route we want to go. It's not one size fits all. War Eagle!
@Durmomo0
@Durmomo0 5 күн бұрын
I invested in him but he was certainly a "new shiny toy' for me 😅 and also because I was glad my inf wedge armaments would be useful for a while more. I've got 1,400 gold heads and we have commander swap and I skipped most of this generation except for him. I was just kind of getting bored. im running LC/Alex Zhuge/Herman Ragnar/Scipio Nevsky/Joan Huo/William Im waiting for new cavs though and hope we get someone worth upgrading. Im not sure who to use my swap for when we get them (assuming its before new cavs). I also do Gorgo/Attila in kvk or Zeno/Gorgo in ark but I was thinking maybe I should go for Hera for my swap? I dunno. Its great new players have a chance to catch up but im getting a bit bored hoarding gold heads because the new commanders arnt much of an upgrade over the old ones.
@Ffhhfhggv
@Ffhhfhggv 5 күн бұрын
Orleans kvk someone needs to put as much instant proc on their lc Alex and share reports lol, nice video
@TJMiton
@TJMiton 5 күн бұрын
The biggest flaw with this is your underlying assumption that Liu/Alex is the best Liu march while the reality is it's the 4th best liu march. Scipio/Liu, Wallace/Liu, Ragnar/Liu are all just straight up better marches in the field than Liu/Alex for anything other than city hopping. Liu/Alex is run for 2 reasons. 1.) you need the scipio and/or ragnar in your 2nd inf march, 2.) You've had alex maxed for years and he's free vs spending heads on Wallace. Both of these are very valid reason to run Liu/Alex and the march IS good, but if you're on 1 inf march, it is not the right march to run for anything other than budget reasons. PS: Looking at 'kill ratios' and trades has become extremely popular lately, (which is surprising to me because people used to hate on people like chisgule for years for talking about trades), but they don't ultimately matter anywhere near as much as winning objectives.
@Busdriver3092
@Busdriver3092 5 күн бұрын
@@TJMiton nah completely disagree there. What’s your reasoning for those other marches being better? I’ve either tested those marches myself or had ppl test it for me using the reports manager open fielding. Unless you’ve done the same and have actual data to back it up, aren’t you just assuming and theorycrafting?
@TJMiton
@TJMiton 5 күн бұрын
@@Busdriver3092 i mean i've also run all of them and can read reports *shrug* you're also very alone in your assertations, i dont know of anyone else still recommending liu/alex as the best inf march. (960 have scipio/liu as their best inf, others have wallace/liu) the main issue with liu/alex to me personally is that it folds like a paper towel if it's hit compared to all the others. alex just does not keep up in the field, which really should not be a surprise. it's pretty irrelevant how it trades if it can't stay on the field when push comes to shove imo. also, the obvious benefits of aoe from ragnar or scipio are obvious.
@ZeHiR_2545
@ZeHiR_2545 5 күн бұрын
I also use report manager. Since 3 kvks my best trading march is Liu Alex.
@HighValueMeal
@HighValueMeal 5 күн бұрын
​@@TJMiton You're talking like your march always get full skill cycles everytime lmao, field murderball is always moving and alex is the only one that has instant proc and doesn't have to rely on skill cycle to get good trades.
@russellmatic9216
@russellmatic9216 5 күн бұрын
Liu alex is the best haha
@xPTIx-mw
@xPTIx-mw 5 күн бұрын
great video.. you always make me think and ? what i hear.. keep it up
@abdelkaderguellati5164
@abdelkaderguellati5164 5 күн бұрын
there was a lot to digest from this last video. thanks for the insights .keep it flowing
@ragingomen2248
@ragingomen2248 5 күн бұрын
I agree for the most part though I disagree that some damage debuff buffs are better seocnd like sun/Bjorn or LC/scipio. Not saying you can get better reports but it think it comes down to preference and fight strategy, cause I’ve run both scipio/Liu and Liu/scipio and scipio primary preforms much better
@cm52311
@cm52311 4 күн бұрын
It only makes sense to me if you're the type of player who frequently looses your combat chain. If that's you then you're frequently going to only get the skill from the primary commander to fire off and in that case, ya obviously having the bigger damage as the primary does better.
@しos十
@しos十 5 күн бұрын
nice video budd
@seanorr5105
@seanorr5105 6 күн бұрын
Hey I’m pretty certain I want to go for Phillip as my fifth March… do you think I should craft leadership gear so I can pair him with any future commanders or archer gear for shajar? Or any other suggestions
@Busdriver3092
@Busdriver3092 6 күн бұрын
@@seanorr5105 archer
@skitz0299
@skitz0299 6 күн бұрын
I think Phillip nebu might be insane, base damage buff will be 45%. Does all damage buff boost Phillip last skill?
@Busdriver3092
@Busdriver3092 6 күн бұрын
@@skitz0299 as secondary it’ll be a 70% damage buff. His instant proc is increased
@tanner8775
@tanner8775 7 күн бұрын
How many march’s should you have before you start considering crafting a second dagger? Love the content btw
@docneunzig6303
@docneunzig6303 6 күн бұрын
20. ;-) You shouldn´t craft a second dagger. Go for horns and rings.
@Busdriver3092
@Busdriver3092 6 күн бұрын
@@tanner8775 so I think dagger is probably a 4th and 5th March item to maximize the debuff. But if it already have one, then you should just craft 2 so it actually has value.
@tatakuwata7639
@tatakuwata7639 7 күн бұрын
For support/buffer commanders the best scenario are 3vs3 or more, getting swarmed or swarming.
@kevinchang18
@kevinchang18 7 күн бұрын
can you swap with commanders you have not owned
@Busdriver3092
@Busdriver3092 7 күн бұрын
@@kevinchang18 probably not
@cubasmike
@cubasmike 7 күн бұрын
Something you want to do to see how popular a march is, expand the first row that says total. That will show you your trades vs enemy marches. So you see what are the most common marches the enemy uses and sort by different columns. You can also group by enemy KD in More insights to focus on stronger or weaker kingdoms, and the same for the Player Marches Perf
@cubasmike
@cubasmike 7 күн бұрын
Also, filter by enemy type to only look at field since you don't want to consider swarming reports where you usually trade bad.
@0_Frosty_0
@0_Frosty_0 7 күн бұрын
Hey kinda curious - when are you going to pop for kvk again?
@Busdriver3092
@Busdriver3092 7 күн бұрын
@0_Frosty_0 next pop