Doesn't philips first skill require him to be primary in front of a dps?
@seanorr51052 күн бұрын
I think ill use my commander swap on Phillip and put him behind ZL. I don't think hermann is actually that good especially for me my only other skill damage is cav but they might not even be after next cycle...
@christophersmith93492 күн бұрын
What about with Flavus? I play anti-swarm Garson. The amount of damage that Flavus can do.
@Busdriver30922 күн бұрын
You're talking about as a garrison? I feel at this point the ultimate anti swarm garrison is something that involves Choe....
@christophersmith93492 күн бұрын
@ I’m just curious because I have played a lot of flav , just thinking about damage out put
@chuyh30513 күн бұрын
I like this kind of videos 👌🏻
@zkx24173 күн бұрын
Yes i feel like Liu Che Philip would work just as well maybe a bit better then Alex. And the thing is you’re getting more value in the murderball from Philip. So imagine everyone switched Alex to Philip. And that kd would trade very well.
@e.p.39003 күн бұрын
Feel like he would be real good at cheeseburgering with his 30% damage and instaproc.
@calming_cat3 күн бұрын
about Phillip as primary, if you use 2-3 points on rejuvenate and the expertise trigger, the skill cycle will become 6s and it's shorter than the cooldown of the expertise. While if you use him as secondary for a commander like Liu Che, the expertise will have more chance to trigger so you might use active skill nearly as much as primary. I'm curious to see if using only 1 point on rejuvenate and instead using more points elsewhere for Phillip would make him do better or worse than 2 - 3 points.
@anwarmhd813 күн бұрын
why there is no mulan in here? they could work as a buffing march, no?
@Ffhhfhggv3 күн бұрын
Shajar baby!!!
@zaiminnosi29052 күн бұрын
People sleep on Shajar because True Damage has poor early reception but they don’t see that Philips provides 18% boost to healing from his talent tree. Besides, he gives 70% damage boost from his kits meanwhile Shajar gives tankiness. I this will shock everyone like LC/Alex.
@sharbandarrimau84483 күн бұрын
Use the best Philip needs to be in front and the equipment of Leadership, Armament Echelon right?!🧐🤔🫡
@Busdriver30923 күн бұрын
@@sharbandarrimau8448 I think no
@hamaakocher57983 күн бұрын
The question is, does philip makes the march more tanky?
@zkx24173 күн бұрын
Yes if its a infantry it gives it 35% defense. Archers 35% health. Also his skill cycles make u take less dmg
@hamaakocher57982 күн бұрын
@zkx2417 then in that sense, he is best to be used with zhuge, and then we need another comparison, is philip/zhuge or zhuge/hermann better for field? Since archers are main targets, if philip becomes more tankier and we take advantage of his buffs while zhuge does his aoe, then i would say zhuge/philip is best to be used.
@zkx24172 күн бұрын
@ well philip zhuge wont be as good as Zhuge philip. U need zhuge primary so he has a better chance of recasting his active. And archers tree is better then leadership for dps and archer stats. Also skill tree.
@prasannabalaji18863 күн бұрын
Max him with swap event and use him in canyon
@KND.74823 күн бұрын
hahaha in the commander changer you only have old conquest season commanders to really exchange, if it could be exchanged for new commanders it would be cheating
@pokerchannel69913 күн бұрын
lamest game ever invented. trash game. gad dam lame
@lizardjesus30602 күн бұрын
What happened? I remember you for Long time always commented on rok videos. How come you don't like the game now ?
@everAU22 күн бұрын
Did you experience Crystal tech finally?
@mr_george_61783 күн бұрын
zzz zzzz zzz
@darylrailean4414 күн бұрын
I like the different perspectives...clear and easy to follow you. ❤
@Jfjfjw84 күн бұрын
Where do you think Alex should go in a 3 inf setup? Running liu wallace, guan scip, and Ragnar Alex rn
@e.p.39004 күн бұрын
Who’s more important to expertise first. Liu che or Ragnar prime
@sehzademustafa88474 күн бұрын
Lie chue
@xDread4 күн бұрын
LC
@avskilda4 күн бұрын
An easy and consistent way to check the value of attack vs other stats in the open field is war runes brother, no need to have a whale full send into attack gear. 7/7 attack defense rune > 10 heath rune
@calming_cat4 күн бұрын
About the attack stats, I had one player in my kd went for the attack stats with cavalry equipments for xy nevsky. It was around the time nevsky was released, there were no formation, no iconic tier 2+ back then. He had like 280% att, but low def and hp. It went terrible for him. he said even when xy nevsky wasn't targeted, that march still had to return home every 15s from aoe dmg. If they are targeted, it went down so fast that even xy still couldn't use active skill once. I think for a melee march a balance between dmg and tankiness is important, better than all in on attack or all in on def and hp.
@cm523114 күн бұрын
I suspect the main reason running your bigger damage dealer first looks better in the reports manager is because you are not always going to stay connected for the extra 2 seconds it takes to get the second commander to fire their active skill. For me that is not enough reason to run it in what is shown to be the worse configuration when running controlled tests. Maximizing your field fighting efficiency takes more skill then a lot of people realize.
@Busdriver30924 күн бұрын
@@cm52311 staying connected is one but in general the bigger skill hitting first also weakens the enemy faster from doing damage to you.
@cm523114 күн бұрын
@@Busdriver3092 in a dualling sense that could be true, but in a ball fight not so much. Majority of the time the march you are hitting isn't targeting you in a big ball fight.
@xDread4 күн бұрын
The big advantage for running AOE primary commanders when ball fighting is to avoid dropping rage and losing skills between targets. Targets get swarmed and die very quickly in ball fights. When your target dies, you will leave combat and reset your rage - unless you have dealt damage to or taken damage from a different march within 5 turns. With a single target primary commander like WW, you'll have situations where: you drag your marches back and forth between safety and enemy targets you build up enough rage to fire WW and your other primary commanders' skills your target gets blown up and dies WW gets kicked out of combat you lose LC's queued active skill With an AOE primary like LC, if you hit other enemies with your AOE skill, you'll remain in combat with those enemies for another 5 seconds even if your target dies. You can target a new enemy to fire your secondary's queued skill. Using an AOE primary almost guarantees that when you are able to build up enough rage to fire 1 skill, you will get 2 skills off.
@KnightErrant-hc5sk4 күн бұрын
Couldn’t agree more on the value of instant proc damage. The amount of value you get from that firing occasionally in those quick engagements where someone pulls back before an active skill cycle is insane when multiplied over an entire KvK.
@MyMarius874 күн бұрын
mate exactly what my question was gonna be. isnt liu che -Phillip an upgrade for your 5 march over alex
@Busdriver30924 күн бұрын
@@MyMarius87 without testing….id lean towards yes but the question is if you can get a bigger upgrade deploying him over another commander of another troop type. So for example I run ZL/Boudica. Is Philip over Boudica a bigger upgrade over Alex?
@MyMarius874 күн бұрын
@@Busdriver3092 for sure it is. Boudica is hated by the whole community and everyone that used her .:) . for me there's no other choice. its either alex out or no PHillip but im at 1300 sculptures before commander swap.
@shphu4 күн бұрын
oh LC Philip should be meta
@13redlion134 күн бұрын
12:50 just a comment for your stats, as you only used Zhuge/Hermann at the end of Kvk, that is when generally the weaker and more casual players are out of ressources and speeds, so there are mostly whales on the field.
@fernandogomes37874 күн бұрын
Has anyone tested Pyrrhus primary LC secondary?
@Busdriver30924 күн бұрын
@@fernandogomes3787 I don’t think it’d be good. But I do think LC/Pyrrhus is probably the best march that nobody talks about
@fernandogomes37874 күн бұрын
@Busdriver3092 I wish his relic was normal damage and not skill
@mattmattah77404 күн бұрын
Philip's best pairing will be LC. Zhuge will be the second best. Been saying it since Philip's teaser: He has 3 strengh - instant proc - double cast - buff linger till primary's next active IF primary has a rage engine and philip triggered a double cast Only LuChe can make use of those 3 strengh as he has combo attack (rage engine + synergy with instant proc) and one of the best active skill to double cast (if not the best). Zhuge has rage engine and one the best active skill to double cast but no synergy with the instant proc sadly. But if you are not ready to drop Alex, Zhuge is probably the best pairing for philip (Btw Philip is NOT a better Trajan, he is a better Alex. They have litteraly the same kit)
@hamaakocher57984 күн бұрын
I love it when u infa guys just talk about so many options while we cav players are deep in shit
@kureha66634 күн бұрын
Bruh us infantry had to go through periods of drought for a long time you cavs are experiencing just a fraction plus the next cav should be op
@hamaakocher57984 күн бұрын
@kureha6663 should is another form of lilith screwing us, hopes and dreams with lilith doesnt work anymore 🤣
@cm523114 күн бұрын
welcome to the hell inf players were in for over a year while cav players were getting everything.
@gabrielsimoes17304 күн бұрын
I think Alex+LC is actually a stronger march compared to LC+Alex, but its problem is more contextual. When you use LC+Alex, the enemy thinks it’s a tanky march / it’s not the first priority / the player is not new. Now, when the enemy sees an Alex march, everyone just jumps to kill it, because it’s squishy / player probably new and unequipped. It’s tough to get overall good kdp with a focused march.
@mohammadsn86774 күн бұрын
Not true Even in dot mode nobody see and care who is primary
@Busdriver30924 күн бұрын
@@gabrielsimoes1730 this is why I have stressed the reports manager. In duels Alex/LC wins. Field reports, it’s not even close.
@Itsajourneything4 күн бұрын
I dont have herman. Want put philip behind zhuge
@vincenzo46305 күн бұрын
so do you think is better to wait to craft leadership gear ?
@vincenzo46305 күн бұрын
btw my idea was to use him as primary with liu che
@Busdriver30925 күн бұрын
@@vincenzo4630 don’t craft leadership equipment instead of troop specific equipment unless it’s a few pieces for archer…..or you are specifically running mixed troops like garrison or Trajan. Also, I’m pretty confident that he would fit much better with LC as a secondary than primary
@vincenzo46303 күн бұрын
Okk i'll wait. The idea behind crafting of leadership set was that in case i can switch pairings for him in case there will be a better pairings in the future and another reason Is for Hera as garrison
@zkx24175 күн бұрын
Honestly this is a very interesting video, that opened up my brain lol
@carson51625 күн бұрын
im a low spender who just hit t5 in soc. Only exp commander I have to trade with is ysg. Right now I run Nevsky/Joan5215, Scipio5551/LC5552. I have ZL unlocked at 1111 but no Hermann which I would really rather swap over ZL bc as a weaker geared player I need speed. Even if I trade for ZL, I have no archer gear nor a commander to put behind him. I think before archer march I would even rather have a siege march. What do you think I should do with the event? (have no gh rn all go to LC)
@Busdriver30925 күн бұрын
@@carson5162 Max LC. If new cav comes out and it’s good then swap the one it doesn’t fit with for the new cav. (Like swap Nevsky or for new cav to pair with Joan). Then you should be in a place to max the new archer to pair with YSG.
@siongkianlim5 күн бұрын
End game , debuffs n health is king 👑
@AzzamAbuJbara5 күн бұрын
19:06 for me stats priority is health , attack then defense
@catchyourdrift5 күн бұрын
Players should consider conditional stats, buffs or debuffs and its duration when choosing for primary🤔
@Freeze45455 күн бұрын
Love the content Bro, as a new player (kvk4) have been contemplating value of attack and commander combinations in regards to actual fighting/dancing. We all need to evaluate our own specific playing style and time online to determine which route we want to go. It's not one size fits all. War Eagle!
@Durmomo05 күн бұрын
I invested in him but he was certainly a "new shiny toy' for me 😅 and also because I was glad my inf wedge armaments would be useful for a while more. I've got 1,400 gold heads and we have commander swap and I skipped most of this generation except for him. I was just kind of getting bored. im running LC/Alex Zhuge/Herman Ragnar/Scipio Nevsky/Joan Huo/William Im waiting for new cavs though and hope we get someone worth upgrading. Im not sure who to use my swap for when we get them (assuming its before new cavs). I also do Gorgo/Attila in kvk or Zeno/Gorgo in ark but I was thinking maybe I should go for Hera for my swap? I dunno. Its great new players have a chance to catch up but im getting a bit bored hoarding gold heads because the new commanders arnt much of an upgrade over the old ones.
@Ffhhfhggv5 күн бұрын
Orleans kvk someone needs to put as much instant proc on their lc Alex and share reports lol, nice video
@TJMiton5 күн бұрын
The biggest flaw with this is your underlying assumption that Liu/Alex is the best Liu march while the reality is it's the 4th best liu march. Scipio/Liu, Wallace/Liu, Ragnar/Liu are all just straight up better marches in the field than Liu/Alex for anything other than city hopping. Liu/Alex is run for 2 reasons. 1.) you need the scipio and/or ragnar in your 2nd inf march, 2.) You've had alex maxed for years and he's free vs spending heads on Wallace. Both of these are very valid reason to run Liu/Alex and the march IS good, but if you're on 1 inf march, it is not the right march to run for anything other than budget reasons. PS: Looking at 'kill ratios' and trades has become extremely popular lately, (which is surprising to me because people used to hate on people like chisgule for years for talking about trades), but they don't ultimately matter anywhere near as much as winning objectives.
@Busdriver30925 күн бұрын
@@TJMiton nah completely disagree there. What’s your reasoning for those other marches being better? I’ve either tested those marches myself or had ppl test it for me using the reports manager open fielding. Unless you’ve done the same and have actual data to back it up, aren’t you just assuming and theorycrafting?
@TJMiton5 күн бұрын
@@Busdriver3092 i mean i've also run all of them and can read reports *shrug* you're also very alone in your assertations, i dont know of anyone else still recommending liu/alex as the best inf march. (960 have scipio/liu as their best inf, others have wallace/liu) the main issue with liu/alex to me personally is that it folds like a paper towel if it's hit compared to all the others. alex just does not keep up in the field, which really should not be a surprise. it's pretty irrelevant how it trades if it can't stay on the field when push comes to shove imo. also, the obvious benefits of aoe from ragnar or scipio are obvious.
@ZeHiR_25455 күн бұрын
I also use report manager. Since 3 kvks my best trading march is Liu Alex.
@HighValueMeal5 күн бұрын
@@TJMiton You're talking like your march always get full skill cycles everytime lmao, field murderball is always moving and alex is the only one that has instant proc and doesn't have to rely on skill cycle to get good trades.
@russellmatic92165 күн бұрын
Liu alex is the best haha
@xPTIx-mw5 күн бұрын
great video.. you always make me think and ? what i hear.. keep it up
@abdelkaderguellati51645 күн бұрын
there was a lot to digest from this last video. thanks for the insights .keep it flowing
@ragingomen22485 күн бұрын
I agree for the most part though I disagree that some damage debuff buffs are better seocnd like sun/Bjorn or LC/scipio. Not saying you can get better reports but it think it comes down to preference and fight strategy, cause I’ve run both scipio/Liu and Liu/scipio and scipio primary preforms much better
@cm523114 күн бұрын
It only makes sense to me if you're the type of player who frequently looses your combat chain. If that's you then you're frequently going to only get the skill from the primary commander to fire off and in that case, ya obviously having the bigger damage as the primary does better.
@しos十5 күн бұрын
nice video budd
@seanorr51056 күн бұрын
Hey I’m pretty certain I want to go for Phillip as my fifth March… do you think I should craft leadership gear so I can pair him with any future commanders or archer gear for shajar? Or any other suggestions
@Busdriver30926 күн бұрын
@@seanorr5105 archer
@skitz02996 күн бұрын
I think Phillip nebu might be insane, base damage buff will be 45%. Does all damage buff boost Phillip last skill?
@Busdriver30926 күн бұрын
@@skitz0299 as secondary it’ll be a 70% damage buff. His instant proc is increased
@tanner87757 күн бұрын
How many march’s should you have before you start considering crafting a second dagger? Love the content btw
@docneunzig63036 күн бұрын
20. ;-) You shouldn´t craft a second dagger. Go for horns and rings.
@Busdriver30926 күн бұрын
@@tanner8775 so I think dagger is probably a 4th and 5th March item to maximize the debuff. But if it already have one, then you should just craft 2 so it actually has value.
@tatakuwata76397 күн бұрын
For support/buffer commanders the best scenario are 3vs3 or more, getting swarmed or swarming.
@kevinchang187 күн бұрын
can you swap with commanders you have not owned
@Busdriver30927 күн бұрын
@@kevinchang18 probably not
@cubasmike7 күн бұрын
Something you want to do to see how popular a march is, expand the first row that says total. That will show you your trades vs enemy marches. So you see what are the most common marches the enemy uses and sort by different columns. You can also group by enemy KD in More insights to focus on stronger or weaker kingdoms, and the same for the Player Marches Perf
@cubasmike7 күн бұрын
Also, filter by enemy type to only look at field since you don't want to consider swarming reports where you usually trade bad.
@0_Frosty_07 күн бұрын
Hey kinda curious - when are you going to pop for kvk again?