Ragnar first impression and how I evaluate commanders [Rise of Kingdoms]

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Busdriver

Күн бұрын

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@DDKKAY 2 ай бұрын

Now best Two Infantry marches : WW/LC , Scipio/ Ragnar Prime

@Busdriver3092 2 ай бұрын

@@DDKKAY still LC/Alex and Guan/Scip for me. And I’m actually kinda a Guan hater. I would love to be able to bench him

@Mia_Rok Ай бұрын

Hi Busdriver68. Love your channel. Now that ragnar is released what is your opinion on him?

@Busdriver3092 Ай бұрын

@@Mia_Rok So the only thing I know is that from the reports manager…. I’d take LC/Alex over LC/Ragnar. Not sure about Ragnar/Scipio vs Guan/Scipio yet. I think it’ll trade better but provide less group utility and is overall a moderate upgrade.

@Mia_Rok Ай бұрын

@@Busdriver3092 thanks for the reply. I'm running 2 infa LC/Alex (fav march :)) & guan/scipio. Still not sure if Ragnar is solid upgrade for my marches overall.

@Busdriver3092 Ай бұрын

@ if you are ahead in GH then yes/maybe. If you are not, I don’t think it’s worth it

@wellackchyually 2 ай бұрын

He's gonna be better than WW imo

@lizardjesus3060 2 ай бұрын

110%

@Busdriver3092 2 ай бұрын

@@wellackchyually as a standalone yes I think so.

@hdgbsy9871 2 ай бұрын

I think a lot of how well he performs will revolve around how effective that drain effect is. The fact its 30% chance when launching AND when being hit with a basic attack is great, it doesn’t suggest that its the current target, opening up the question if youre surrounded could this stack, then theres the fact there doesnt appear to be a cooldown time for it. Im guessing its limited and just not described the way its going to operate but it’s interesting.

@Busdriver3092 2 ай бұрын

@@hdgbsy9871 true. I doubt it stacks. That would be broken. But I could see it rebuffing multiple marches simultaneously if it’s being swarmed. But if it’s being swarmed it’s going to go down fast anyways

@hdgbsy9871 Ай бұрын

@ Very true, will be nice to see the detailed reports of him when he can be tested in the field!

@kyle4awhile 2 ай бұрын

Ive had 3 infantry marches for along time. Its always been questionable. Lol but its looking better now for sure. 😂

@Durmomo0 5 күн бұрын

I invested in him but he was certainly a "new shiny toy' for me 😅 and also because I was glad my inf wedge armaments would be useful for a while more. I've got 1,400 gold heads and we have commander swap and I skipped most of this generation except for him. I was just kind of getting bored. im running LC/Alex Zhuge/Herman Ragnar/Scipio Nevsky/Joan Huo/William Im waiting for new cavs though and hope we get someone worth upgrading. Im not sure who to use my swap for when we get them (assuming its before new cavs). I also do Gorgo/Attila in kvk or Zeno/Gorgo in ark but I was thinking maybe I should go for Hera for my swap? I dunno. Its great new players have a chance to catch up but im getting a bit bored hoarding gold heads because the new commanders arnt much of an upgrade over the old ones.

@vincenzo4630 2 ай бұрын

with the expertise you add the dot on the aoe

@ragingomen2248 2 ай бұрын

I only run one inf march atm, but I love knowing everything about the commanders and knowing all the best pairings. Since I don’t have a max Alex I’ll continue with my scipio/liu, but imo all this means is that inf are going to have a LOOOOTTTT of choices for two marchs. Liu/alex WW/liu scipio/liu scipio/ragnar, guan/ragnar.

@gimpycpu 2 ай бұрын

At what kingdom age will he be available? Kvk 2-3 are still in such a bad place for commanders investment

@Busdriver3092 2 ай бұрын

@@gimpycpu likely kvk3 if I’m guessing

@masterful5070 2 ай бұрын

there are some rumors that he will be an aethel style commander that we can all get for free and iirc he wont be appearing in wheel or mge as well. hopefully that is the case so in the event he is pretty good i can save my heads for the next inf anyway, and if not i skip. i really do think infantry will continue to be smite commanders which ragnar does not really synergize with besides being a decent stat buff/tankiness i suppose.

@Busdriver3092 2 ай бұрын

@@masterful5070 I’d be surprised. He’s probably too strong for that.

@HighRoler 2 ай бұрын

Hey bus, how is your view on 3 or 4 cav marches in a 6 lineup? And going mostly attack gear? In a sense of tanking like peace but getting as much Kp while doing so as a mid spend in b seed? Would love to hear your quick thoughts if you don’t mind or anyone else’s if you want to chime in (For reference most my gear is special talent tier 2 some higher. And I do 2 mw + polyps in kvk)

@Busdriver3092 2 ай бұрын

@@HighRoler if you go 4 cavs in a 6 March setup, you are choosing it at the expense of a infantry or archer March. right now….cavs are deep so the third cav March is comparable with the second best infantry or archer March…but more likely than not that won’t always be the case. Going all damage output only makes sense if you have essentially bottomless rss/speeds to be able to constantly sad face and send more marches out. Besides Peace and about 50 other players in the game with that profile, I don’t think it’s optimal for most players.

@HighRoler 2 ай бұрын

@@Busdriver3092 spot on take. feel the same but just needed to hear it. After having my Nevsky rotate into the murder ball so much (my god that was annoying) thought it could be easier to just have more cav marches to offset march speed issue and really get the benefit of a city skin then took it to another level with 4 cav. Theory crafting gone wrong on my end. that’s why we keep coming to your channel, appreciate the input on that one bus 👍

@sadeddeaded1091 2 ай бұрын

Invest or skip? More like insta max. If it is even possible. Unless he's like aethel on expe

@Hydrobladegiyuu 2 ай бұрын

which is better for the field joan nev for support tree tankiness or nev joan for rage engine?

@Busdriver3092 2 ай бұрын

@@Hydrobladegiyuu Nev/Joan

@davidw.5185 2 ай бұрын

Infantry main: 3rd infantry march. Honda primary. Huge damage. 😎

@lizardjesus3060 2 ай бұрын

Ohhhh😮

@Hephyss 2 ай бұрын

2800 aoe damage, and 600 of it wont be reduced by additional targets, this commanders is gonna hit like a truck. I think its gonna be a clear upgrade on guan

@skoshow8418 2 ай бұрын

Guan is gonna pair crazy well with Ragnar P. Scipio with LC means both marches are fast, tanky, debuffing, and double aoe. I’ll bench Alex when Ragnar comes out then bench Guan when the new one does

@BubbaBryce31 2 ай бұрын

Scipio LC has no synergy. You should keep LC with Alex and pair Ragnar with Scipio, Guan has long overstayed his welcome

@lizardjesus3060 2 ай бұрын

I think he could be really good with honda. Lots of damage over time.

@Busdriver3092 2 ай бұрын

@@lizardjesus3060 minimal skill damage increase though. Without that, the March can’t keep up with the damage output of the other top marches

@lizardjesus3060 2 ай бұрын

@@Busdriver3092 I think 40% skill damage boost on a double AoE is keeping up okay

@Busdriver3092 2 ай бұрын

@@lizardjesus3060 when that March is at 60% health? Also Ragnar’s will only increase the primary commander’s skill damage more than half the time

@acid1082 2 ай бұрын

This feels like Scipio 2.0, except it doesn't replace Scipio? AoE damage, lot of stats, lot of bulk, nice debuff/buff and some skill damage. Perhaps like how Huo is to Nevksy? Imagine, if William didnt exist for cav how awkward it would be to have a pair for both Huo and Nevsky. Feels like its this situation for Ragnar.

@BubbaBryce31 2 ай бұрын

It only feels weird to pair Huo and Nev because they are both single target commanders, its not the same for two AOE commanders

@TheDarkinBow-pj6xj 2 ай бұрын

Expertise: from current target to all targets

@Busdriver3092 2 ай бұрын

@@TheDarkinBow-pj6xj Oops I already assumed it was doing that without the expertise. So it makes the primary skill worse without the expertise in from my perspective but doesn’t make him any better

@TheDarkinBow-pj6xj 2 ай бұрын

@@Busdriver3092 Fact