Thanks :) Your comment made me think back to this day. Feels good to grow your skills!
@Zerotys_ADV7 күн бұрын
Nice explanation of your experiences. Besides Rawhyde what other companies have you trained with? Who did you seek out for private training?
@PandaintheDirt7 күн бұрын
SLMX is what I started with when I first had my initial dirt bike experience. Then Sedlak Offroad School (now called SoCal Offroad School). I've done one day with Motoventures (group). Then Rawhyde, and most recently West38Moto. My private training experience has been with SLMX (private only, never group), and Sedlak (private dirt bike training, then one group training for ADV bikes). I haven't had private ADV training yet - except "by accident" at RawHyde when I was the only person showing up for a pre-training clinic.
@Zerotys_ADV7 күн бұрын
@ Nice 👍🏾. Never heard of SLMX.
@olliechristopher4679 күн бұрын
Good on you my man!! That is a hell of a bike to be taking on the Rowher trails.
@PandaintheDirt8 күн бұрын
Thanks :)
@ericaworthington267510 күн бұрын
Thanks for the info! Not a great idea to put loose screws on the ground as you're likely to kick them around and maybe lose them. In a pocket, maybe?
@PandaintheDirt10 күн бұрын
Yeah, I just try to be careful about it but accidents have happened :P Hopefully folks aren't taking advice on where to put the loose screws from this video!
@betobeto790311 күн бұрын
Nice riding! what is your favorite trail riding area?
@PandaintheDirt10 күн бұрын
Well, so far Rowher Flats, Hungry Valley and El Mirage in terms of OHV parks (where I try to go when solo). Otherwise it's been a lot of trails from OnX - several around Idyllwild. Still haven't done cleghorn, big bear - on the list!
@SWTrailsAndWheels18 күн бұрын
Valiant effort. Trailmax Raids may not be knobby enough for that depth of sand.
@PandaintheDirt18 күн бұрын
Doesn't stop it from being fun :P Joking aside, I'll be switching to the Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ Dakar once I run these down. I have the raids due to ... well kind of a long story but had to make a quick decision.
@ADV_explorersgr22 күн бұрын
👌👌👍☝️
@MrJefftik22 күн бұрын
Don't forget why you start riding in the first place...I guess it was to enjoy so there are places for adventure bikes and places for Harley's and places for quad's in believe you've learned more than enough in different areas so you can already have the trip you really want to take.... itchy Boots kind 👍👍👍 good Job
@PandaintheDirt22 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@AdamPotter-y9s23 күн бұрын
An aftermarket steering stabilizer helps out a lot in sand. The factory one is junk.
@cracotator23 күн бұрын
In sand, never use 1st gear : 2nd gear and braaaap ! 😉 And never use front brake, always have momentum ! Very nice place to ride, thanks for sharing!
@PandaintheDirt23 күн бұрын
I mostly use first gear when I want to go very slowly in turns, trying to get out of the habit of burning up the clutch :) Sometimes I'm lazy and stick to first gear.
@That1Guy789023 күн бұрын
You really have come a long way.
@PandaintheDirt23 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@CurtisBrandt24 күн бұрын
Great job! I find riding in sand on these big bikes to be extremely challenging.
@PandaintheDirt24 күн бұрын
Thanks! Slowly getting the hang of it and most of all I enjoy it :)
@Angry-Lynx23 күн бұрын
It's tiring but not that hard if u learn to . Put weight somewhat back, lower tire pressures ( this is critical) , counterbalance a lot, turn of traction control, don't try to steer with handlebars cheers
@PandaintheDirt23 күн бұрын
@@Angry-Lynx I accidentally went in deep sand with traction control still on the other day (upcoming video), haha :P
@michaelbeeman415126 күн бұрын
have you dropped the air pressure in your tires for sand riding? some people do some don't. personally I like lower air pressure.
@PandaintheDirt26 күн бұрын
No. I generally don't like the hassle of airing up and down all the time. At some point I'll do it just to try it out side by side and see how much difference it makes, but for starters my next tires are gonna be the Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ Dakar, which will be better in sand regardless than the Raids.
@michaelbeeman415126 күн бұрын
@@PandaintheDirt yes. my next tires will be the same Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ Dakar
@Angry-Lynx23 күн бұрын
@@PandaintheDirtit makes ALL the difference. Forget about riding in sand on road pressures brother, not happening. Especially if u use insanely high manufacturer recommendation. I never use more than 2bars even if just road riding. I'm having 12v socket air compressor with me but also don't like the hassle. What I do is I ride on compromise pressures(1.5-1.8bar) all the time and lower it only if there will be longer section of difficult terrain. Doesn't matter what type of tires. Works great cheers.
@Angry-Lynx23 күн бұрын
For such terrain drop your pressures to 1.5 bar, do a lot of counter balance when leaning and I promise it'll transfer your ride in such conditions from fighting for life to almost having fun😂. And of course practice, practice practice.... 😁
@PandaintheDirt23 күн бұрын
@@Angry-Lynx Yeah definitely gonna try it eventually. So far it's working out pretty well w/o airing down though (running on road pressures), so I'm not in a terrible hurry but I'll give it a shot. Perhaps around the time I'll switch tires. That way I can compare Trailmax Raid against Trailmax Raid aired down, against the Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ and then those aired down.
@michaelbeeman415126 күн бұрын
I have 2024 790 adventure. I'm 6'1" the windscreen is brutal. I am looking forward to your review. Are you in the San Diego area?
@PandaintheDirt26 күн бұрын
LA area, though I frequently head down to Anza/Idyllwild for riding trails so I ride with folks from SD sometimes.
@michaelbeeman415126 күн бұрын
did you windscreen break or did you remove it on purpose?
@PandaintheDirt26 күн бұрын
I removed it because the stock windscreen was worse (for wind noise) than having no windscreen at all. I've since installed a Givi Airflow which I'll be reviewing soon (it'll be in some upcoming footage).
@williamgalliher1987Ай бұрын
Steep Yes, Good Job, but Buy an elliptical and start some exercise.
@olliechristopher4679 күн бұрын
He is on a 890. That is a beast for those trails. Anyone would be breathing hard riding that almost 500lb bike in Rowher.
@majidtorkamani6004Ай бұрын
What’s the name of the Trail you were riding?
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
This wasn't a trail, it was the Motorcycle "practice" track at Hungry Valley OHV (it's near the activity center, see the map: ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=1200). Next video will be parts of the Roadrunner Trail (also at Hungry Valley OHV), and I also have an end 2 end video of that whole trail coming.
@21_MotoАй бұрын
I just rode sand for the first time the other day. It’s challenging! This is cool. I’m on the same path. Learning dirt on a dirt bike to eventually move into an adv bike.
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
Challenging indeed! I still find it fun so far though :) More sand from Hungry Valley coming - did a fair amount of sand riding after the practice track in this video. Turns out aside from sandy trails there's a pretty big sand wash (or what seems to be a sand wash) over there, so plenty of practice to be had.
@21_MotoАй бұрын
This is rad! I'm really enjoying watching your progression. I'm starting my off road journey too. Good stuff.
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
Thanks! It's been a while year and change :) When did you start?
@MiniRocket223Ай бұрын
Suggesting you to try the DNA Stage 2 Combo.
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
I'll look into it for the 890. For the GS it's only my backup off road bike now so likely won't be bothering with anything but stock :)
@21_MotoАй бұрын
Hi Panda! This looks awesome!
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
It was great!
@That1Guy7890Ай бұрын
Great stuff!
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
Thanks!
@ScottyADVАй бұрын
hahaha same feelings here man. Sand is a good work out.
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
:D
@mterk61Ай бұрын
What a great trail! And, Yes, challenging on the big 890! I have one and love it, but you feel the weight when it gets into tighter sections for sure! Good job.
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
Thanks!
@letato1354Ай бұрын
Many thanks for the helpful video. You mounted the windscreen to the upper set of holes on the bike (not the lower set as shown in the instructions), correct? Apart from the mirrors hitting the windscreen at full lock, have you experienced any other issues with that, such as the screen fluttering at high speeds? Thank you again.
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
Yep - I mounted it in the highest most position. I never tried the lower position because I knew I wanted it as high as possible. This is an interesting point, maybe if mounted lower there's a little more room. That said, I'm gonna keep it where it is regardless as the small amount of intersection isn't causing a real problem - and it only happens before the bike has auto-raised the windscreen. I've had no other issues that I've noticed. No sound/fluttering from the windscreen, no.
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
Oh to be clear. When I saw in the video that they collide in the lower position, I am referring to the adjustability being in the low position. Meaning physically mounted in the highest possible location - but before the adjustability has raised it further after starting the bike up.
@letato1354Ай бұрын
Great, thanks. I initially mounted the windscreen to the lower set of holes but that did not provide sufficient wind protection so I switched to the same setup you have and it works much better.
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
@@letato1354 Glad to hear it!
@ohhhcrapАй бұрын
Keep up the great content brother 🤙
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
Thanks :)
@itscraigg72Ай бұрын
What a bad design for replacing them
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
It could be better but it's still pretty decent. Some bikes seem way worse where you have to remove the fuel tank and similar shenanigans, so I don't mind it.
@itscraigg72Ай бұрын
@@PandaintheDirt how long does it take you
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
@@itscraigg72 Well, it was about 7:30 for one side in this video. So that's 15 minutes total for both sides. But this was at the chill pace and blabbing for the camera that you see in this video - and this was my first time doing it. So I'd say 15 minutes is on the outside; a practiced and/or more handy hand, so to speak, than mine will probably do it all in < 5 minutes.
@itscraigg72Ай бұрын
@@PandaintheDirt do you ride much dirt
@PandaintheDirtАй бұрын
@@itscraigg72 Yep. See other videos on the channel :P
@locoman34982 ай бұрын
Awesome! I think I was up there on the same day!
@PandaintheDirt2 ай бұрын
Rowher Flats is increasingly appealing the more I explore it :)
@Resort_Fans2 ай бұрын
Great video. I've wanted to do RawHyde Adventures for quite a while!
@PandaintheDirt2 ай бұрын
I can definitely recommend it!
@motorcyclestig85393 ай бұрын
I took my cbr1000rr to the top of saddleback lol i had a handlebar set up and tkc80 tires. It was alot harder than when i took my bmw hp2 Enduro up there lol.
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
Sadly it looks like it's going to be closed for a while due to the airport fire.
@MiguelSerrano-jr9pd3 ай бұрын
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@bmccameron76423 ай бұрын
I own the same bike/model. When heading into off-road, and especially into hard off road, loose or sandy sections it's best to completely kill the wheelie control and TC . I've ended up stuck and bogged a cpl times due to the TC shutting down power right as I need to gas it, lost momentum and dug a hole. The WC and TC act together, and while hardly intervening at mid to higher speeds it will surprise you at low speed by how much it kicks in even when set to the lowest possible levels. It's extremely sensitive when climbing loose surfaces and will catch you off gaurd every time if not turned off.
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
Sounds pretty much perfectly consistent with my experience :D I should have spent the time to figure out how to turn it off completely before going out the first time. I wasn't used to off road ABS that's that sensitive.
@bmccameron76423 ай бұрын
@@PandaintheDirt Everyone struggles with the menus at first, there's quite a bit in there. Now that I've owned mine for a few months I find it easy to find what I need. I typically don't kill the ABS as I don't find that an issue off road. It's only when pushing to fast that it'll cause an overshoot into corners off road generally for me. The WC and TC are the culprit, and as stated slow speed uphill in loose conditions it over--reacts even when set to (1) so completely OFF is the only option. Obviously getting stuck on these bikes, given their weight is best avoided. It happened to me again yesterday on a loose riverbed and took 4 attempts and 20 minutes to get back onto firm ground a mere 20 feet away. I was near the point of exhaustion and alone by the time I extracted it. *always kill TC/WC before entering if possible!!
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
@@bmccameron7642 Yep. Sorry I actually meant TC/WC, not ABS. Though I prefer ABS off too for the rear wheel. In any case I figured the menus out (link in description), but I only did that in the evening after that first day. Shoulda looked into it on the first day before getting out there!
@Mikeletterman7263 ай бұрын
That's an awesome video....!!! Beautiful trail and a great bike and rider...!
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@JG-dm3ny3 ай бұрын
What tires are you running on these trails. I have friends that ran the Dunlop TMM's and they said they were scary in some of the rougher areas.
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
This is on the Motoz Tractionator Adventures. However prior to this, I had the Trailmax Missions on this bike and have ridden this trail several times with those tires - at least the bottom half. I can't quite remember if I rode the upper part up to the peak before or after. But, I've also ridden this since then on e.g. the 1250 with the Trailmax Mission. And on the Africa Twin and KTM 790 - both with less aggressive tires than than the tractionator adventure. I think that unless you're riding much harder and aggressively than me at least, the Trailmax Missions are completely fine on this trail. I'm not saying you wouldn't notice having less traction, but I never felt there was any issue/problem/concern with the missions on this trail. My main motivation for upgrading was to have a bit of an easier time in sand. I do notice the difference on trails like this, but I would have no reservation about the trailmax missions here.
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
In kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqTIe4qDa6umg9k I talk more about the difference I felt between the Trailmax Missions and the Tractionator Adventures (though it's mostly road focused because that's where the biggest difference was - exactly because these trails I was riding at the time aren't gnarly enough or these tires to make a huge difference).
@pont0n3 ай бұрын
I heard that wheelie control messes TC. Check Big Rock Moto, Ian, explained it.
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
Thanks! So when I completely disabled TC, that included turning off wheelie control. However, in fairness I didn't try disabling wheelie control while keeping TC turned *on* at low levels. I hadn't seen anyone say that you need to disable wheelie control just for the normal 1-6 range of TC levels to work, and it did feel like the levels worked when I was adjusting them on that first day. If I ever ride one again I may experiment more but I *think* I'm good and that the turning off of wheelie control is for when turning off TC completely.
@mattyb77363 ай бұрын
Get it off road, turn wheelie control to 1 or 2, point it at a steep hill and watch it run out of power if you want to see the effect wheelie control has off road.
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
It's basically what I did in kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmTGm6Freq2fa6s even though I wasn't planning for it :D
@kdonoghue3 ай бұрын
How do you like your Chigee? or is that the Innovv?
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
It's the Chigee. I mainly have it just for Android Auto support. The dash cam feature seems a bit meh mainly because it seems like a bit of a pain to get footage off it and such. But the basic Android Auto capability seems pretty solid. I would love for the screen to be a bit bigger, and it takes several seconds after it powers on for Android Auto to kick off; those are really the main things I'd change about it. The delayed coming on is mostly an issue when I *don't* want to use it. It'll auto-play media when it comes on. So if I'm e.g. going off road and I don't want any media to start playing I have to wait for it to automatically launch Android Auto mode only so I can turn it off. It's also slightly annoying at gas stations. If you turn off the ignition it'll turn audio off after 10 seconds or so when it goes off. It incentivizes me to pump gas keeping the ignition on just to avoid it. But overall I do like it a lot and I'd get it again if I needed one.
@kdonoghue3 ай бұрын
@@PandaintheDirt Yeah I just picked one up, waiting to put it to use. I’ve looked at many and probably got some Apple licensing thing these devices cannot have batteries and must be powered solely from the bike . 6” would be ideal , but would rather have the smaller screen than a whopping 7” screen .
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
@@kdonoghue Hope you like it!
@ScottyADV3 ай бұрын
Haha happened to me as well on the same trail too lol. Good thing it didnt fully come off and cause a wreck or send you off the cliff.
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
Yep. It was very unnerving in the moment even if it just a bit of rotation. Hopefully coming fully off is less likely...
@BrianMukwaya-b3l3 ай бұрын
Just a new subscriber Let’s go Panda 😊
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
Thanks! :)
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
I'm mortified to have realized that this video, and several others, has audio coming out of the left ear only. This is fixed for videos starting Aug 14 2024. It's too late to be able to fix the older videos. My apologies! (And if you're wondering how on earth this happened, so was I until it happened to me!)
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
I'm mortified to have realized that this video, and several others, has audio coming out of the left ear only. This is fixed for videos starting Aug 14 2024. It's too late to be able to fix the older videos. My apologies! (And if you're wondering how on earth this happened, so was I until it happened to me!)
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
I'm mortified to have realized that this video, and several others, has audio coming out of the left ear only. This is fixed for videos starting Aug 14 2024. It's too late to be able to fix the older videos. My apologies! (And if you're wondering how on earth this happened, so was I until it happened to me!)
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
I'm mortified to have realized that this video, and several others, has audio coming out of the left ear only. This is fixed for videos starting Aug 14 2024. It's too late to be able to fix the older videos. My apologies! (And if you're wondering how on earth this happened, so was I until it happened to me!)
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
I'm mortified to have realized that this video, and several others, has audio coming out of the left ear only. This is fixed for videos starting Aug 14 2024. It's too late to be able to fix the older videos. My apologies! (And if you're wondering how on earth this happened, so was I until it happened to me!)
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
I'm mortified to have realized that this video, and several others, has audio coming out of the left ear only. This is fixed for videos starting Aug 14 2024. It's too late to be able to fix the older videos. My apologies! (And if you're wondering how on earth this happened, so was I until it happened to me!)
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
I'm mortified to have realized that this video, and several others, has audio coming out of the left ear only. This is fixed for videos starting Aug 14 2024. It's too late to be able to fix the older videos. My apologies! (And if you're wondering how on earth this happened, so was I until it happened to me!)
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
I'm mortified to have realized that this video, and several others, has audio coming out of the left ear only. This is fixed for videos starting Aug 14 2024. It's too late to be able to fix the older videos. My apologies! (And if you're wondering how on earth this happened, so was I until it happened to me!)
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
I'm mortified to have realized that this video, and several others, has audio coming out of the left ear only. This is fixed for videos starting Aug 14 2024. It's too late to be able to fix the older videos. My apologies! (And if you're wondering how on earth this happened, so was I until it happened to me!)
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
I'm mortified to have realized that this video, and several others, has audio coming out of the left ear only. This is fixed for videos starting Aug 14 2024. It's too late to be able to fix the older videos. My apologies! (And if you're wondering how on earth this happened, so was I until it happened to me!)
@PandaintheDirt3 ай бұрын
I'm mortified to have realized that this video, and several others, has audio coming out of the left ear only. This is fixed for videos starting Aug 14 2024. It's too late to be able to fix the older videos. My apologies! (And if you're wondering how on earth this happened, so was I until it happened to me!)